A different lube adventure

[LittleLebowski]

My wood stoves squeak a lot. As a gun geek, that annoys me. Conventional lubes are out due to the inevitable cook off and chemical smell. Seems like a textbook case for froglube, but I’m not buyin that shit again. I don’t think anything will last more than a couple weeks due to the extreme and constant heat, but I’m always on the lookout.

So far, Bohning bowstring wax (https://www.amazon.com/Bohning-1360-Seal-Tite-Wax/dp/B0000AVE3V/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512926543&sr=8-1&keywords=bohning+seal-tite+bowstring+wax) works best (yes, I have a compound bow thanks to a good friend on here), but it’s very hard to apply.

I’m currently using the Dillon case lube clone which is simply 99% isopropyl alcohol (https://www.amazon.com/Swan-Isopropyl-Alcohol-99-Pint/dp/B01MG602HG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1512926771&sr=8-3&keywords=isopropyl+alcohol) and lanolin (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014AWF0S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) dissolved together in about 1:8 ratio of lanolin to alcohol. You simply warm up the lanolin bottle in a pan of hot water and pour it into your spray bottle of alcohol and shake it up. This stuff is lasting about a week.

Also, the Dillon case lube clone might be the finest gun surface protectant I’ve ever seen. Mist on, wipe it around, it keeps stuff from rusting phenomenally well. Of course, it makes a fine case lube as well :D

[MistWolf]

Try nickel based Never Seize. It's made for high temp applications like exhaust bolts.

[LittleLebowski]

Try nickel based Never Seize. It's made for high temp applications like exhaust bolts.

I have some for suppressor mounts, but one experience with a gun lube on the stove made the house reek. I fear the same for this stuff.

[MistWolf]

I applied nickel Never Seize to my suppressor threads but never noticed any smell. Now I'm curious. Have you?

[LittleLebowski]

I applied nickel Never Seize to my suppressor threads but never noticed any smell. Now I'm curious. Have you?

No, but fumes inside your house are very different than in a ventilated indoor range or just shooting outside.

[Totem Polar]

Sounds like a job for Sperm oil. Which isn’t going to happen. Following.

[Peally]

Don't tease with a thread title that juicy

[LittleLebowski]

I’ll prolly try straight lanolin next.

[MistWolf]

No, but fumes inside your house are very different than in a ventilated indoor range or just shooting outside.

Believe me, I get it. That's why I asked if you've ever gotten a whiff instead of just saying "I never smelled a thing, it should be ok!"

[Kukuforguns]

Have you tried powderized graphite?

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[LittleLebowski]

Have you tried powderized graphite?


Not yet, good idea though!

[Tensaw]

I'll just leave this right here. https://youtu.be/oQaBGqEasGM

XF-7

[Spartan1980]

Have you tried powderized graphite?

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Or a dry film moly spray. We used to spray threaded tool joints with it. Industrial supply is probably where to go to get it. Once dry it'll not let any fumes off. This is similar and may work.

https://www.sprayon.com/product-categories/industrial-lubricants/dry-film-moly-lubricant-aerosol-lu200

[Totem Polar]

Send your stove to Robar?

Seriously, I suspect low odor, heat resistant waxes will be the best long-term options, but I’m way out of my lane.

[BobM]

How about something you'd use to season cast iron cookware ?

[LittleLebowski]

How about something you'd use to season cast iron cookware ?

I usually use Crisco, doubt it would hold up.

[LittleLebowski]

I'll just leave this right here. https://youtu.be/oQaBGqEasGM

XF-7


Very interesting, fumes are still a concern, though.

[txdpd]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010189154/frankford-arsenal-drop-out-bullet-mold-release-agent-and-lube-6-oz-aerosol

Works well on the hinges of my molds and it doesn't coke when it burns off.

It doesn't look like coking would be your issue, so just about any food grade or natural wax or grease and graphite would probably work. The wax would just be a carrier to actually get the graphite in the hinges.

[Joe in PNG]

I have seen a variety of food grade lubricants at the industrial wholesaler- a look at the CRC catalog may be in order.

[JohnO]

Here is a possibility.

http://www.pinewoodderbycars.com/Tungsten-Disulfide-WS2-Premium-Lube-p/pd-1101.htm

I recalled that Tungsten DiSulfide has a very high (1200 F) working temp. Polish your bearing surfaces and try a 5 micron coating.

Back to add: Only $200 a pound it must be good. ;)

[LittleLebowski]

Don't tease with a thread title that juicy

PIX SENT

[john c]

Seems like a textbook case for froglube, but I’m not buyin that shit again.

Serious question: What's the problem with Froglube? I read a lot of stuff back and forth about different lubes, but I haven't heard much about Froglube.

[BJXDS]

The squeak just adds to the ambiance of a wood burning stove.

[LittleLebowski]

Serious question: What's the problem with Froglube? I read a lot of stuff back and forth about different lubes, but I haven't heard much about Froglube.

I don’t like the mint smell, I had a batch that literally mildewed, their marketing annoyed me, and I’m clearly an important person :D

Heck, I’d prolly try some if I had it laying around, but I’m not willing to buy some just for the stoves.

[LittleLebowski]

The squeak just adds to the ambiance of a wood burning stove.

My wife has very good hearing and I just don’t like stuff that squeaks.

[DallasBronco]

I had a couple of thoughts, but they are divergent solutions. One would be automotive, like maybe a high temp white lithium, or maybe even wheel bearing grease. The second would be tallow. I think the auto greases would probably work best if the door was removed and the pins of the hinges greased. Pretty sure white lithium would not smell, but I'm not sure about the wheel bearing grease. Probably would depend on the formulation.

[Jaywalker]

Food-grade mineral oil? If nothing else it's cheap.

[JRCHolsters]

I will shoot you over a syringe of Chem-X. Has an operating range of -454F - +842F, and uses Tungsten disulphide for lubricity. Should do the job for you. Shipping info still the same?

[Odin Bravo One]

Not yet, good idea though!

This idea floated around the Middle East for the duration of my business trips to the area. I exhausted a lot of time and effort trying to fix that, but the military is a lot like PF; some people you just can’t reach.

It may work wonders for a wood stove.

It sucks the cheese off of Rosie O’Donnell’s labia for anything firearms related.

[Robinson]

It sucks the cheese off of Rosie O’Donnell’s labia for anything firearms related.

My GOD man...

[Odin Bravo One]

Some people are incapable of comprehending words, so figured I’d paint a picture for them.

[NEPAKevin]

My coal stove has bushings on the hinge pins. Only squeaks when the door lever is twisted to seal the fire box.

[flyrodr]

I heard spark plug thread lube was good (and a lot less messy than any of the anti-seize products).

https://www.aircraft-tool.com/shop/detail.aspx?PRODUCT_ID=ATS2612

[JRCHolsters]

As in ~6F above absolute zero? That’s crazy. I had no idea there were lubes that worked in temperatures that low.
Yup, sure is. Can you imagine that lab tests they have to do in order to figure that out. The Tungsten disulfide nano-particles have some amazing properties. Interesting what jumps there are in technology every few years

[LittleLebowski]

My coal stove has bushings on the hinge pins. Only squeaks when the door lever is twisted to seal the fire box.

/humblebrag :D

[LittleLebowski]

I will shoot you over a syringe of Chem-X. Has an operating range of -454F - +842F, and uses Tungsten disulphide for lubricity. Should do the job for you. Shipping info still the same?

Yes and thank you very much.

[BehindBlueI's]

This idea floated around the Middle East for the duration of my business trips to the area. I exhausted a lot of time and effort trying to fix that, but the military is a lot like PF; some people you just can’t reach.

It may work wonders for a wood stove.

It sucks the cheese off of Rosie O’Donnell’s labia for anything firearms related.

*Sits down with an apple and some smoked gouda cheese*

...wonder what's going on over at PF.

https://i.imgur.com/GKmA8Lw.gif

*puts apple and cheese away*

Damn it.

[NEPAKevin]

/humblebrag :D

I suppose. :) But I was actually thinking you could maybe pick some up, they are just very thin washers (probably brass coated steel?) and put them on your door hinges. Then you wouldn't have to lube and I am guessing they are like the bushings on car doors so they wear instead of the hinges them selves.

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[jeep45238]

I suppose. :) But I was actually thinking you could maybe pick some up, they are just very thin washers (probably brass coated steel?) and put them on your door hinges. Then you wouldn't have to lube and I am guessing they are like the bushings on car doors so they wear instead of the hinges them selves.

22276

That’s a slick idea. Copper brass or bronze should all work well - and look how well this idea works on flipper knives, prior to the advent of affordable bearing systems.

[Wyoming Shooter]

This stuff: https://www.libertygunlube.com/products/chemical-x-nano-tech-firearms-grease-10cc-syringe ? I'd like to learn more. Thanks.


Yup, sure is. Can you imagine that lab tests they have to do in order to figure that out. The Tungsten disulfide nano-particles have some amazing properties. Interesting what jumps there are in technology every few years

[JRCHolsters]

This stuff: https://www.libertygunlube.com/products/chemical-x-nano-tech-firearms-grease-10cc-syringe ? I'd like to learn more. Thanks.
Sure, what would you like to know beyond the info given at our website?

[Wyoming Shooter]

I'm curious how the lubricant can be efficacious over such a wide temperature range. Here in the Big Empty, we experience temps from - 35 F to + 105 F. Thanks. ELN


Sure, what would you like to know beyond the info given at our website?

[JRCHolsters]

Gotcha. Hoping not to derail the original thread. I think someone else also mentioned Tungsten disulfide. Pretty good stuff. It is suspended in a 30-120nm size, which gives the properties mentioned. The nano particles unfurl under pressure and friction creating a smooth layer. That's the simple version. It can easily handle the environments your State has to offer, but then again, so does our CLP. Low temp performance is kind of our niche.

[LittleLebowski]

I will shoot you over a syringe of Chem-X. Has an operating range of -454F - +842F, and uses Tungsten disulphide for lubricity. Should do the job for you. Shipping info still the same?

Received and thank you. Part of it definitely burned off some, I could see the vapors; but appears to be doing the job on the inside of the stove. I tried some on the outside hinges and the cookoff smell was apparent, no more applications on the outside. I plan to reapply when the stove is cold for cleaning and report back.

[JRCHolsters]

Received and thank you. Part of it definitely burned off some, I could see the vapors; but appears to be doing the job on the inside of the stove. I tried some on the outside hinges and the cookoff smell was apparent, no more applications on the outside. I plan to reapply when the stove is cold for cleaning and report back. Thanks for the quick feedback. Curious, any idea how hot the outside is getting?

[LittleLebowski]

Thanks for the quick feedback. Curious, any idea how hot the outside is getting?

I don’t have anything capable of measuring it for now, but pretty freaking hot. Water sizzles on it instantly. Burned my hand. I worked the grease in with a piece of wood. Again, it is working, even after the initial burn off.

[LittleLebowski]

Thanks to the other shitty moderator on this forum, I now have a bitchin' IR thermometer. It is hard to get a completely accurate reading on the inside of the door where the lube has been applied, but so far it has ranged from 550 to 620 degrees Fahrenheit. Keep in mind that it's probably hotter when closed and it stays that hot for a long time. Also know that we have not had a really cold night since I got the grease so generously sent to me. I go on vacation to SoCal Friday and a week after that when I get back, I hope for some cold temps so that I can see just how long the coating left behind after the grease cooked off lasts, but so far, so good, and impressive!

[blues]

Have a nice (safe) trip LL.

If nothing else works, I say fall back on chicken schmaltz. At least it will smell like an old bubby's cooking.

https://www.affordablekosher.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/262x243/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/c/schmaltz.jpg

[52Hubcap]

I’m currently using the Dillon case lube clone which is simply 99% isopropyl alcohol (https://www.amazon.com/Swan-Isopropyl-Alcohol-99-Pint/dp/B01MG602HG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1512926771&sr=8-3&keywords=isopropyl+alcohol) and lanolin (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014AWF0S/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) dissolved together in about 1:8 ratio of lanolin to alcohol. You simply warm up the lanolin bottle in a pan of hot water and pour it into your spray bottle of alcohol and shake it up. This stuff is lasting about a week.

Also, the Dillon case lube clone might be the finest gun surface protectant I’ve ever seen. Mist on, wipe it around, it keeps stuff from rusting phenomenally well. Of course, it makes a fine case lube as well :D

I don't have a wood stove, but I do use the Dillon clone as a case lube, but at about a 1:20 L/A ratio. Best lube I've used in 40+ years of reloading. Wish I would've tried it first.

[Clusterfrack]

My schmaltz always came with a side of guilt... I think I’d prefer guilt free cases.


Have a nice (safe) trip LL.

If nothing else works, I say fall back on chicken schmaltz. At least it will smell like an old bubby's cooking.

https://www.affordablekosher.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/262x243/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/c/schmaltz.jpg