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pew_pew
12-01-2017, 11:56 AM
I saw one of these at cabelas and loved it. Wouldn’t buy from there but yea I keep thinking that it’d be awesome with a Vortex Razor HD and a bipod. Worth the money?

https://www.noveske.com/products/18-noveske-spr-rifle

Grey
12-01-2017, 12:11 PM
My vote would be no. I'd get a Knights if I wanted to spend big bucks.

HCM
12-01-2017, 01:00 PM
I have a Noveske Gen 2 Recon. It's an excellent rifle and extremely accurate. I traded into it. For similar money I would look at a KAC or a Hodge.

ReverendMeat
12-01-2017, 06:56 PM
I have a Noveske Gen 2 Recon. It's an excellent rifle and extremely accurate. I traded into it. For similar money I would look at a KAC or a Hodge.

Why is that, what do kac or hodge do better than noveske?

Gray222
12-01-2017, 09:10 PM
KAC over noveske, especially for a 556 spr.

Noveske changed manufacturers from gen 2 to gen 3 and whoever is making their new stuff isn't as good/consistent.

KAC is consistent and delivers good performance for the money, especially in an spr platform.

HCM
12-01-2017, 10:18 PM
Why is that, what do kac or hodge do better than noveske?

In my case, run suppressed unless you get a switch block Noveske.

I've also heard of QC declines in the past few years.

The only thing really special about a noveske, including mine, is the barrel.

The Hodge has a great barrel and rail as well as superior small parts quality.

With the KAC in particular, you are getting a gun that is actually re-engineered and more durable than a standard AR inckuding an excellent trigger.

Honestly, while I like the Hodge, the KAC is really the best value.

HCM
12-01-2017, 10:19 PM
KAC over noveske, especially for a 556 spr.

Noveske changed manufacturers from gen 2 to gen 3 and whoever is making their new stuff isn't as good/consistent.

KAC is consistent and delivers good performance for the money, especially in an spr platform.

KAC is consistent because KAC is the actual manufacturer vs an assembler.

Mr. Goodtimes
12-01-2017, 10:26 PM
If I was buying an SPR, I’d be buying a an SR-15 MOD 2 LPR, bar none.


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Wake27
12-03-2017, 05:06 AM
I have had two factory Noveskes and liked them both. That being said, both have left me wondering what they do better than a BCM. If I really wanted to spend that much money, I’d also get a KAC.


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Fordtough25
12-03-2017, 09:48 PM
I've got a 14.5" Noveske afghan with a leupold 3x9 vx-r patrol scope and it's amazing, I can make hits out to 500 yards with m193 ammo regularly. I had a kac sr15 and it was quite nice as well but I liked my Noveske better. Either will kick butt imo for a higher priced ar15.

Odin Bravo One
12-08-2017, 09:09 PM
I’d lay Dollars to pesos that the number of people who are able to shoot an SPR to a level where one brand matters over another are few and far between. I’ll also go out on a limb and state that the number of people who can actually maximize performance of an SPR are even fewer.

Buying an SPR because you want one is a personal choice. But from what I’ve seen from AR shooters in this country, an SPR is an ingenious way to part a fool and his money.

ChknLivrNWsky
12-09-2017, 10:34 PM
I’d lay Dollars to pesos that the number of people who are able to shoot an SPR to a level where one brand matters over another are few and far between. I’ll also go out on a limb and state that the number of people who can actually maximize performance of an SPR are even fewer.

Buying an SPR because you want one is a personal choice. But from what I’ve seen from AR shooters in this country, an SPR is an ingenious way to part a fool and his money.

To piggy back on this thread, I've been looking at getting a KAC LPR Mod 2 upper. I already have a 14.5" carbine mod 2, and it's definitely one of the more accurate AR's I have shot. I won't hesitate to admit that it can out shoot me.

I then read through the thread here with the SR15 and Vortex and it really got me thinking that I don't need the LPR upper. It's nice, but I don't think I'm going to be able to shoot it to it's limitations. It got me thinking of just buying another 14.5" or 16" mod 2 upper and placing an LPV optic on it for dedicated longer range shooting.

To answer the OP, my only experience with Noveske is a stripped gen 1 lower, so I can't say much about them. However, you really can't go wrong with KAC. It is expensive, but once you have it in hand and do some shooting with it, you can see where you get all of the value. Whether or not it's something that you need is another thing.

Mr. Goodtimes
12-09-2017, 11:05 PM
I thought I needed an SPR until I put a 1-6 Razor on top of my 16” SR-15 Mod 2 and found out with was a 1.25 MOA rifle with Hornady TAP. Not really sure what an SPR would gain me other than a few lbs.


ETA: I think over the past few years it seems like the quality of barrels has gone up substantially. At one point I think an SPR offered a lot to gain over an average AR-15 but now days, it seems that gap has narrowed.

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Sigfan26
12-10-2017, 12:19 AM
I’d lay Dollars to pesos that the number of people who are able to shoot an SPR to a level where one brand matters over another are few and far between. I’ll also go out on a limb and state that the number of people who can actually maximize performance of an SPR are even fewer.

Buying an SPR because you want one is a personal choice. But from what I’ve seen from AR shooters in this country, an SPR is an ingenious way to part a fool and his money.

I fall into this category, currently. However, I aspire to be able to run the platform to its potential.


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rob_s
12-10-2017, 06:48 AM
I’d lay Dollars to pesos that the number of people who are able to shoot an SPR to a level where one brand matters over another are few and far between. I’ll also go out on a limb and state that the number of people who can actually maximize performance of an SPR are even fewer.

Buying an SPR because you want one is a personal choice. But from what I’ve seen from AR shooters in this country, an SPR is an ingenious way to part a fool and his money.

My personal fav is the $2.5k rifle, topped with an equal investment in glass, fed $0.25/round Ammo by a guy that’s got maybe 100 rounds ever through an AR prior to purchase. Because:need

Odin Bravo One
12-10-2017, 07:59 AM
My favorite are the comments provided without reference, and based on a small cross reference of sample rifles, and a shit ton of personal bias that has actual fuck all to do with reality.

But let’s not let facts get in the way of our personal opinions.

My advice would be to buy whatever the fuck you want. Let’s get real, 98% of the AR shooting world can’t maximize performance from a Model One Sales, DPMS, or service grade rifle from any number of garbage manufacturers, so actual mechanical capabilities are rather irrelevant.