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hufnagel
11-21-2017, 04:56 PM
Thinking about something like this...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/416ilVOa4PL._SY355_.jpg

Probably would only be cable locked to the rear seat frame, since the possible need to remove it occasionally/periodically might arise, plus the gas tank is right below the trunk floor! :D

Purpose is to be able to carry in NJ within the constraints now allowed/afforded me given my club has filed with NJSP, which in short removes the "directly to/from" wording from the transport laws for me.

Firearm(s) i'm considering would be the shockwave or a hand gun.

If anyone has experience with these types of safes/cabinets I'd like to hear about the pros and cons.

schüler
11-21-2017, 10:25 PM
Some drawers have a half decent lock mechanism but the cheap ones can be pried open. Some safes are damaged/trapped when burglars damage the lock mech or electronics.

If you go with a cable it needs to be inaccessible to cable cutters. Not uncommon for burglary crews to have cutters for heavy gauge sub/amp. Not the same metal type but they can be forced to work.

A buddy had one of the single pistol sizes cabled to seat frame and the whole safe/cable and pistol were gone.

Bolt it down. Might be easier to span accessible bolt down points with sizable flat steel bar and then bolt safe to that bar.

Big Sky, Santa Cruz, Setina and others might have some models that give food for thought.

hufnagel
11-22-2017, 01:15 AM
Aye. Part of the reason for my question is I've seen ones vary from a couple bills to "that's more than I paid for one of my cars! And it runs!"

I get that cable vs. bolting is easier to "steal", but then I need to decide what level of criminal am I attempting to thwart. If someone really wants my shit they'll just steal the whole damn vehicle; of course though all of mine are stick shift so that right there is a YUGE deterrent. :D

I think I want something that's above a Plano case with a lock, but below armored car, with the goal to be able to safely toss the firearm in the safe for the day while i'm out, and potentially take advantage of being near my home range, as well as the aforementioned as-close-to-carrying-as-you-can-get-in-this-godforsaken-state.

mmc45414
11-22-2017, 10:13 AM
I have this in the back of my truck:
https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-425-tuffy-under-rear-seat-lockbox-for-f-150-x-cab.aspx
and it is secured by unbolting the bracket that holds the jack, and then the jack and bracket goes inside and is bolted through. Might be a spot with a similar opportunity? I have thought about doing something in my hatchback that goes through the floor into a coupling nut attached to the spare tire hold down?

rob_s
11-22-2017, 10:25 AM
I have this in the back of my truck:
https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-425-tuffy-under-rear-seat-lockbox-for-f-150-x-cab.aspx
and it is secured by unbolting the bracket that holds the jack, and then the jack and bracket goes inside and is bolted through. Might be a spot with a similar opportunity? I have thought about doing something in my hatchback that goes through the floor into a coupling nut attached to the spare tire hold down?

Thanks for posting that! I've been looking for something like this for awhile.
https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-510-ram-rear-split-bench-underseat-storage-security-lid.aspx

mmc45414
11-22-2017, 10:31 AM
Thanks for posting that! I've been looking for something like this for awhile.Three trucks ago I had one of these between aftermarket buckets in my 1991 Suburban:
https://www.tuffyproducts.com/p-88-series-ii-security-console-12-12-wide.aspx
And I plan to pull the center seat section out of the current F-150 at some point, it was very handy.
My current problem with the under seat storage is there is always a dog on top of the seat...

OlongJohnson
11-22-2017, 02:06 PM
Some of the lock-nerd reading I've done recommends replacing the cylinders in most lock boxes with a much more secure (harder to pick) version:

https://www.abloy.com/en/abloy/abloycom/products/product-catalogue/cam-and-cabinet-locks/cam-locks/us-range-cam-locks/

fatdog
11-22-2017, 11:22 PM
I have a truckvault unit sized for my SUV and both cabled locked to the frame and bolted down. My thing is I used to do 3-gun and now do cowboy, so securing both the long guns and handguns became a big deal to me. Even if you pry it loose, the unloaded unit weighs 150lbs and is nearer 250 loaded up, pretty hard to smash and grab. looks like this one 21841

Before that I used the Vline rifle safe, chain locked to the frame.

both of mine use the simplex locks with a 3 stroke combination, I don't trust any electronic locks for anything...

steaknvodka
11-26-2017, 09:41 PM
Some of the lock-nerd reading I've done recommends replacing the cylinders in most lock boxes with a much more secure (harder to pick) version:

https://www.abloy.com/en/abloy/abloycom/products/product-catalogue/cam-and-cabinet-locks/cam-locks/us-range-cam-locks/

Thanks for the tip!

Still wish my Tuffy center console unit had a simplex lock option though.

TC215
11-26-2017, 09:47 PM
I have a TruckVault similar to the one pictured above in my work Explorer, and really like it.

hufnagel
11-27-2017, 06:36 AM
woof...
estimate on a trunkvault is $1600+sh.

Wake27
11-27-2017, 05:16 PM
I’ve been considering something similar to the OP, I think it’s the Snap Safe under bed model sold by Brownells. I assume it’s eligible for the free shipping they do which would be awesome at $350 total, if it’s a decent safe.


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