Mountain bikes

[jeep45238]

Who’s got them, where do you ride them?

Broke my last mid level (from 95), and am pinching pennies for a Trek Fuel Ex 8 - need some inspiration while I’m without a MTB.


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[JodyH]

I ride a Ellsworth Evolution 29'r in the southern Rocky Mountains, around the Texas Hill Country and at least one trip a year to Moab.
The Ellsworth 29'r is like riding on a cloud.

[mtnbkr]

I ride a bike I built myself several years ago. The frame is a Taiwan-sourced aluminum hardtail 29r, the parts are a mishmash of stuff. Fork is a chromoly rigid fork (glutton for punishment). Gearing is 1x9 with a 32x34 low. I ride the Mid-Atlantic region, and parts of the Appalachian mountains in VA, WV, TN, and NC.

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Chris

[Krenovian]

I ride a Niner Jet Nine here in Utah. We are fortunate to have some of the best mountain biking trails in the West.

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[MD7305]

I ride a Yeti ASRc 29er. I mostly ride east TN and western NC. 2017 was my 20th anniversary of getting into mountain biking, it's my drug.

[trailrunner]

I got bikes. My MTB is an Stumpjumper FSR.

My latest bike is a gravel bike (Salsa Warbird carbon), which I bought last month. I'm looking forward to getting some miles on that bike.

I still ride the first MTB I owned, which was a Rockhopper that I bought in 1992. I commuted to work on it yesterday.

[OlongJohnson]

I'm 6'4". Found a custom enormous Kona hardtail frame built for Ryan Trebon on Ebay and built it up from components quite a few years ago. Pretty much like an AR built on stripped receivers. It actually fits me, and I love it. Loved riding it in SoCal. Hate the flatness here in Houston.

[JodyH]

2017 was my 20th anniversary of getting into mountain biking, it's my drug.

I still ride the first MTB I owned, which was a Rockhopper that I bought in 1992. I commuted to work on it yesterday.
Damn I feel old.
My first mountain bike was a chromoly Takara way back in 1981.

[peterb]

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From a dirt-road ride in early spring. Water in the sun, ice in the shade.

[Dagga Boy]

A huge passion for me for a lot of life until I got hurt at the cop job. Hit 55 mph in the daytime and 45 at night on the Mammoth Mountain Kamikazi Downhill. Followed the race circuit, and used to watch Mrs. GJM race professionally. I just started riding a little again lately. My bikes floored the shop guys in retro cool factor. Mantis Flying V and a Cannondale Tandem. The Mantis is my baby. Most new to this won't get the significance of a hand built Richard Cunningham bike.

[mtnbkr]

A huge passion for me for a lot of life until I got hurt at the cop job. Hit 55 mph in the daytime and 45 at night on the Mammoth Mountain Kamikazi Downhill. Followed the race circuit, and used to watch Mrs. GJM race professionally. I just started riding a little again lately. My bikes floored the shop guys in retro cool factor. Mantis Flying V and a Cannondale Tandem. The Mantis is my baby. Most new to this won't get the significance of a hand built Richard Cunningham bike.

I remember the elevated chainstay fad back in the early 90s. I lusted after one, but by the time I was ready to buy another bike, they had passed.


Damn I feel old.
My first mountain bike was a chromoly Takara way back in 1981.

My first one was some non-name steel bike back in '83. It had Bullmoose-style handlebars, so it was cool. :D

Chris

[Casual Friday]

I still have my first mountain bike, a Huffy Stone Mountain. It's a textured gray splatter paint with neon green accents. Probably got it in 1990 or '91. Although a bit faded and weathered, it still features a "pretty cool, huh?" Rainier Dry bumper sticker. It was in the attic storage in the garage at my parent house and I found it when they passed away a couple years ago. It needs a little TLC though.

I bought a Raleigh about 15 years ago and still ride it quite a bit, mostly with the kids. I've always wanted to be more into it but I'm just not. I trail ride a little here and there but nothing major. I suspect having the body of Shrek doesn't help.

Random internet picture of the Huffy Stone Mountain.
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[OlongJohnson]

I'm 6'4". Found a custom enormous Kona hardtail frame built for Ryan Trebon on Ebay and built it up from components quite a few years ago. Pretty much like an AR built on stripped receivers. It actually fits me, and I love it. Loved riding it in SoCal. Hate the flatness here in Houston.

Since we're going all retro, I saved and bought a Rockhopper Comp at the end of eighth grade. Rode it through high school, then it became my main wheels in college, even after I got to the point where I had a car while going to school (lived on campus).

I bought a Stumpjumper M2 in the fall after I graduated. I test rode every manufacturer's hardtail that summer, and the Specialized was the best. Most of the parts have been replaced at least once, but the frame, crankset and derailleurs are still going strong. There's a solid fork ready to go on it soon and make it a commuter bike for cooler weather.

A bike I wish I still had is a Schwinn Stingray. Yellow with the ape hanger bars and top tube shifter. It was a present for my fourth birthday. It's a wonder my junk still works after the jumps I missed with that shifter. It would have been money during the years when I lived near the beach in SoCal.

Oh, yeah. At my size and weight, I eat drivetrain parts about twice as fast as my normal size friends.

[JodyH]

I had a early '70's Yamaha full suspension 20" bicycle.
The thing weighed more than some motorcycles do today, but damn it was cool back in the day.
:cool:

It looked like this one:
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[idahojess]

My first bike was a GT Tequesta that I bought with berry picking money in 1989.
It's a great sport -- I currently have a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR that has been a solid ride. I don't ride as much as I used to, but it still makes me feel like a kid.

(Tried to take the upside down photo out, didn't work -- oh well, enjoy...)

[Lomshek]

Not as old as Dagga Boy's rides but here's my old school 26" Trek Top Fuel after getting a new lease on life this year.
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Here's my son hitting one of the more rugged trails in Arkansas with me a month ago. He's been riding for a long time but not been on the more advanced trails before. He only wrecked once and didn't even need stitches!
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[fwrun]

Specialized Crave SL 29er, rigid fork. Originally Single Speed, but I converted it to 1x10.

[JodyH]

Here's a quick GoPro helmet cam shot from my 13 year old boy's first ever mountainbike trail ride.
This is a easy single track around the perimeter of a city park in Lubbock, Texas.
I'm cruising my Ellsworth showing him the way, he's huffing and puffing along behind me on his Ghost.


https://youtu.be/oBBvYYR1Kvc

[jeep45238]

You’re giving hope that I’ll be able to put one together before spring gets here. Current top selection is a Trek Fuel Ex. Will be riding in the Midwest a lot, with the western states next summer.


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[jc000]

My ride is a fully rigid Independent Fabrications Deluxe 29er. I think I’ve posted pics of it here before – don’t we have these mountain bike threads every couple of months?

I’m currently borrowing this bad boy:

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So far I can say that I’m not a fan of the lower 27” wheel bottom bracket, the 1x drivetrain is pretty sweet, and dropper posts are weird. I’m planning on picking up a dual suspension bike next year and this ride has given me food for thought.

I’ve picked some side work as a mechanic again. Forgot how much I enjoyed that, especially on higher end bikes.
JodyH which Ellsworth do you have? I’m kinda sorta looking at an Epiphany.

[Coyotesfan97]

I’m riding a Giant Talon 3. I thought I had pics of it but couldn’t find any. I’ll get some tomorrow

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I usually ride in Usery Park in the East Valley. This is Pass Mpintain as the sun is going down.



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I can meet new friends. He caused a hiker, biker, horse jam the othe day.

[JodyH]

JodyH which Ellsworth do you have? I’m kinda sorta looking at an Epiphany.
jc000
Evolution SST.2 29"

[idahojess]

I can meet new friends. He caused a hiker, biker, horse jam the othe day.

Are those out year-round down there? At least I only worry about them through about October around here.

[Jakus]

I just recently started riding a bike again as my 5 year old is getting comfortable on his BMX bike at the pump track and back and forth to school. There is a pretty good volunteer group here is Dallas that helps establish and maintain trails.

Not exactly picturesque terrain, but it’s scratching the backpacking/hiking itch that I don’t get to very often.

Here’s my Diamondback 27.5+ hardtail.
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[beenalongtime]

What kind of budget do you guys set for a bike?
As a kid, I only had a single speed. A few years ago, I picked up a used Walmart special ($50) and used it to realize I enjoyed riding. The last couple years, life has been in the way, but I would like a "proper" bike now. I know I enjoy it, and I will have to find/make time to ride (even if just around the neighborhood).

Thanks

[Coyotesfan97]

Are those out year-round down there? At least I only worry about them through about October around here.

It’s about time for them to hide. It’s been warmer than usual this year. I think he was warming on the trail. He was playing dead until I poked him with a long stick.

ETA he was about two feet long.

[jeep45238]

Any thoughts on potential downsides of going with a 27.5+ bike over a 29er?

Is anyone riding the new 12 speed SRAM setup?


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[peterb]

Any thoughts on potential downsides of going with a 27.5+ bike over a 29er?

27.5+ is going to give you a heavier wheel & tire combination than a 29er. The disadvantage is that it feels more sluggish when accelerating. The advantage of that bigger softer footprint starts to show up as the trail gets worse.

If you mostly ride hardpack/dirt roads/flow trails, the 29er may be faster. It's the current choice of XC racers. As the rocks & roots increase the wider tire starts to help with traction and is more forgiving.

[jc000]

Any thoughts on potential downsides of going with a 27.5+ bike over a 29er?

IME, I've gotten a lot more pedal strikes. That would dependent on your riding style to some degree.

[jeep45238]

IME, I've gotten a lot more pedal strikes. That would dependent on your riding style to some degree.

Let's call it....not talented, and starting fresh, for a riding style. My last mountain bike was an old 26 inch that I broke essentially everything on but the elastomer shock (somehow that survived). A lot of that was just getting a taste and starting to ride trails, the other part was 15+ year old components with no maintenence.

I've come a long way in the maintenence department, but haven't had an opportunity to ride trails in several years.

[jc000]

What kind of budget do you guys set for a bike?
As a kid, I only had a single speed. A few years ago, I picked up a used Walmart special ($50) and used it to realize I enjoyed riding. The last couple years, life has been in the way, but I would like a "proper" bike now. I know I enjoy it, and I will have to find/make time to ride (even if just around the neighborhood).

Reasonable quality bikes will start minimally at about $350, $500-$750 will get you a pretty solid performer, and $1000-$1500 opens up a number of high-quality options. Of course bikes in the $4000-10000 range are pretty commonplace.

The difference between a Walmart bike and a bike made by a quality bike company will be pretty substantial. Let me know if you have other questions.

[jc000]

Let's call it....not talented, and starting fresh, for a riding style. My last mountain bike was an old 26 inch that I broke essentially everything on but the elastomer shock (somehow that survived). A lot of that was just getting a taste and starting to ride trails, the other part was 15+ year old components with no maintenence.

I've come a long way in the maintenence department, but haven't had an opportunity to ride trails in several years.

How tall are you? The frame geometry of 29er bikes seems more suitable for riders over 5' 10". Dependent on your budget there are quite a few bikes that can handle 27.5+ and 29er wheels so if you ever wanted to swap you won't need a new bike.

There are World Cup Downhill bikes riding on 29er wheels – no worries about them being adequate for a variety of trail conditions / riding styles.

[jeep45238]

I'm just a shade under 6 foot. Budget wise I'll be sticking with Trek - I get a great deal on bikes due to the training they made available since I started working there. Not sure if I'll get into the wheel swapping game, as that's a nice smacker on the wallet for a set of wheels and a cog; much better deal to buy the finished product with less headaches.

[vaspence]

The Trek Roscoe 8 looks to be a lot of bike for the money.

[Doc_Glock]

used to watch Mrs. GJM race professionally.!!

I need to meet her.


Mantis Flying V and a Cannondale Tandem. The Mantis is my baby. Most new to this won't get the significance of a hand built Richard Cunningham bike.

I get it and we also have a Cannondale Tandem. Really want a Ventana for that role though.

[theJanitor]

Who remembers this from the 90's. GT's first thermoplastic DH bike. I had to pull some strings to get a frame, as only Mike King and Steve Peat had them, IIRC. It was crazy to think that at the time, this cost more than my KX250 with a Procircuit motor and Race Tech suspension.

https://i.imgur.com/hgiD4rM.jpg

[Dagga Boy]

Who remembers this from the 90's. GT's first thermoplastic DH bike. I had to pull some strings to get a frame, as only Mike King and Steve Peat had them, IIRC. It was crazy to think that at the time, this cost more than my KX250 with a Procircuit motor and Race Tech suspension.

https://i.imgur.com/hgiD4rM.jpg

I remember those. I hit my big (for me) speeds on the Mammoth Mountain Kamikaze on a GT RTS-1 that was basically set up as a twin to Julie Furtado's bike.

[theJanitor]

I remember those. I hit my big (for me) speeds on the Mammoth Mountain Kamikaze on a GT RTS-1 that was basically set up as a twin to Julie Furtado's bike.

This Lobo's rear end was not much stiffer than a wet noodle, but it was the best at the time

[marty.eaves]

I’m riding a Giant Talon 3. I thought I had pics of it but couldn’t find any. I’ll get some tomorrow

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I usually ride in Usery Park in the East Valley. This is Pass Mpintain as the sun is going down.



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I can meet new friends. He caused a hiker, biker, horse jam the othe day.My son got bit by one riding Cedar Hill state park in 2008. It was dry very fortunately...

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[Doc_Glock]

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[mtnbkr]

Is that a Jone frame or just the fork? I can't tell from the pics.

Jones frames were en vogue around here with the well-heeled bike hipsters for a while.

Chris

[cornstalker]

I ride a Trek Fuel EX8+. The traction from the 27.5+ tires is stupid good compared to the grip I got with 26x2.35. I run the air pressure at 16-18 pounds. The outer diameter of a 27.5+ is essentially the same as a 29er, so I couldn't see a clearance benefit by going with the niner. The weird part is the "basketball" sound the tires make when popping over rocks.

Here is a little crappy go pro footage from the Mount Herman trails in Monument, Colorado. Quick ride before work this summer. The sun was brutal...


https://youtu.be/mn3qqynIt8g

[Doc_Glock]

Is that a Jone frame or just the fork? I can't tell from the pics.

Jones frames were en vogue around here with the well-heeled bike hipsters for a while.

Chris

Jones steel Taiwan built diamond frame with his truss Fork.

I am not a hipster, but I have gone through a lot of single speeds over the years. This one is where I settled and I have happily ridden it six years and have yet to break it.

I personally feel Taiwanese production bikes are higher quality than many custom frame builders.

This bike rides on the firm side, and the fore aft stiffness of the truss is a real thing. Which is fine by me as I spend a lot of time in technical terrain.

I had the swoopy Jones “spaceframe” for a while and did not care for its flexibility. I have a friend who loves that feeling.

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[Dagga Boy]

Jones steel Taiwan built diamond frame with his truss Fork.

I am not a hipster, but I have gone through a lot of single speeds over the years. This one is where I settled and I have happily ridden it six years and have yet to break it.

I personally feel Taiwanese production bikes are higher quality than many custom frame builders.

This bike rides on the firm side, and the fore aft stiffness of the truss is a real thing. Which is fine by me as I spend a lot of time in technical terrain.

I had the swoopy Jones “spaceframe” for a while and did not care for its flexibility. I have a friend who loves that feeling.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171116/8d297d79be7ece182488e58da4b5ce1f.jpg

I have seriously toyed with the idea of a single speed over the years. This isn't helping.

[Doc_Glock]

I have seriously toyed with the idea of a single speed over the years. This isn't helping.

They are really a lot of fun. I like to have options in that I ride single speed with no suspension, and full suspension with all the gears, and have done so for years. I like all bikes, but I probably devote 80% of my time to the rigid SS.

Ping me if you want any tips or leads. GJM has my number.

You and I started riding in the day when there were only rigid bikes, so I am sure you know how to handle that part of the equation well. Just get one geared properly and you are on your way.

Some things I like about SS:
-I like to stand to climb. My ass never hurts at the end of a long day like it does on a sit and spin suspension bike.
-It is only the air in the tires, me, and one gear versus the world.
-It generally feels more athletic and favors a grinder versus a spinner.
-Plenty of opportunity to get off, push, and enjoy the surroundings.
-They are fine for older guys, just gear them smaller.
-Almost nothing to maintain. I oil the chain when it gets noisy or I remember and add air to tires.
-I feel like a kid.

This is the Glock 19 and entry level drug of single speeds.

http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_ss/bike_info

[Dagga Boy]

They are really a lot of fun. I like to have options in that I ride single speed with no suspension, and full suspension with all the gears, and have done so for years. I like all bikes, but I probably devote 80% of my time to the rigid SS.

Ping me if you want any tips or leads. GJM has my number.

You and I started riding in the day when there were only rigid bikes, so I am sure you know how to handle that part of the equation well. Just get one geared properly and you are on your way.

Some things I like about SS:
-I like to stand to climb. My ass never hurts at the end of a long day like it does on a sit and spin suspension bike.
-It is only the air in the tires, me, and one gear versus the world.
-It generally feels more athletic and favors a grinder versus a spinner.
-Plenty of opportunity to get off, push, and enjoy the surroundings.
-They are fine for older guys, just gear them smaller.
-Almost nothing to maintain. I oil the chain when it gets noisy or I remember and add air to tires.
-I feel like a kid.

This is the Glock 19 and entry level drug of single speeds.

http://surlybikes.com/bikes/karate_monkey_ss/bike_info

With my back and foot injuries, I will likely never see dirt again on a bike. Spending four years riding forty hours a week as a ghetto bicycle cop, and mostly at night.....the urban riding is what my future will hold with bikes. That is where the single speed sort of appeals to me. I have big legs and calves now after all the injuries. I had monster oak tree legs and calves. I was never a spinner and liked turning big gears. When we did our classes training bike cops, it was always funny. We had some tremendous athletes on our bike team, so the students were told that the fat guy would pace he graduation ride. It was a total psych when they realized we were going to run the perimeter of the city and turning the big chain ring up front the entire time.....laid some serious pain and flunked out the folks that didn't realize they actually had to be able to really ride the bike to be in a bicycle unit.
I have always wanted a single speed fixed gear bike for my bike messenger delusions of a dream job. Yet.....the logical side says brakes and at least the ability to coast. The single speed Mt. Bike is the logical extension of that.

[Coyotesfan97]

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[Doc_Glock]

With my back and foot injuries, I will likely never see dirt again on a bike.

Never say never. My best bud just came through half a decade of plantar issues and cervical nerve compression. He got on a consistent work out and rehab program the past year and is riding a bike on dirt again. Something he though he had said goodbye to.

[Doc_Glock]

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I love the paint jobs on those.

[JodyH]

My boy's green Ghost and my wife's blue Ghost.
Decent starter bikes for both of them.

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[Coyotesfan97]

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[cornstalker]

Who’s got them, where do you ride them?

Broke my last mid level (from 95), and am pinching pennies for a Trek Fuel Ex 8 - need some inspiration while I’m without a MTB.


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I like your choice of bikes. I went in to buy a Trek Remedy, but they didn't have one. I went ahead and test rode the Fuel EX8+ and loved it. Rode the piss out of it this summer and love it even more now. My opinions of it. The only issue I have had is with the 1x11 drivetrain. The high isn't high enough, low is just a smidge too tall. I also miss the ability to quickly dump a chainring when you haul ass around a blind corner to find a steep technical climb. The plus side of the 1x11 is that I have never had to stop and put my chain back on in the rough stuff. Coming from 26" tires, I am very impressed with the traction and rollover ability of the 27.5" plus tires. Definitely not as nimble, but doesn't need to be.

The suspension is awesome. The CTD feature seems to work like it is supposed to. The dropper post is great, although the lever for it seems frail and I don't expect it to live through another season. The brakes are acceptable, but not as good as the Avid Juicy 7's I had on my old bike. Then again, they are trying to stop a larger and heavier wheel/tire assembly.

Hope you get yours soon!

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[M2CattleCo]

I ride this Trek around town quite a bit. It's a better bike than I really need, but I traded a 308 bolt gun I never shot for it.

Some kind of Trek, has been modified a little. It has a different sprocket and is now a 10 speed, has Renthal carbon fiber handlebars, I don't know what else. Rides nice, I have a good time on it.

https://photos.smugmug.com/My-First-Gallery/i-wPnDHxp/0/30cb94e2/L/IMG_2122-L.jpg

[taadski]

Lot of Fruita and Moab trips and a bunch of local high country riding here.

About a year and a half ago, I bit the bullet and bought a new bike. It was replacing a Santa Cruz Blur Classic I’d been on for a bunch of years. I settled on an Ibis Ripley LS as a new scoot. It's a mid-travel 29er and falls into the “trail bike” genre by today’s standards. I’ve been totally tickled with its versatility. It’s only 130mm/120mm but descending, even on bigger hit type stuff, it rides like a bike with another two inches of travel. And at the same time, it’s super nimble and flicky for a 29er; kinda like an adult sized BMX bike. On the other side of the coin, it’s one of the best technical climbing bikes I’ve ever owned and I consistently find myself cleaning difficult sections with way less effort/focus than in the past. As a “quiver-of-one”, do-everything trail bike, especially for a taller/larger rider, the new breed of 29ers are pretty impressive.

I’ve not ridden on Scram’s new drivetrain, although I’ve heard good reports. I’m riding an XT 1x11 currently and like it. I was an early adopter of the 1x concept and I have to say, I’m still pretty sold on it.


The bike…

https://i.imgur.com/HD0yBlS.jpg



A few September wildflowers and some single track at 12,000’.

https://i.imgur.com/UetmwKl.jpg


And a little pump track fun coming back into town at the end of a cross country ride…

https://i.imgur.com/9dVe4s2.jpg

[MD7305]

Taadski, that Ridley is schweet!!! My next bike is gonna be a 29er with "trail bike" travel. I'm a hopeless Yeti Cycles fanboy so I'm aiming for a SB4.5 or SB5.5.

I put a SRAM GX/XO Eagle 12spd group on my bike and I really like it but Ive gotta admit I don't use that 50t cog as much as I anticipated but it's nice having it at times.

[mtnbkr]

Jones steel Taiwan built diamond frame with his truss Fork.

I am not a hipster, but I have gone through a lot of single speeds over the years. This one is where I settled and I have happily ridden it six years and have yet to break it.

I personally feel Taiwanese production bikes are higher quality than many custom frame builders.

This bike rides on the firm side, and the fore aft stiffness of the truss is a real thing. Which is fine by me as I spend a lot of time in technical terrain.

I had the swoopy Jones “spaceframe” for a while and did not care for its flexibility. I have a friend who loves that feeling.



Sorry, I wasn't implying YOU were a hipster, just that the folks in this area who were Jones fans until the Taiwanese bikes appeared were the bike hipsters. They moved from one boutique builder to another always abandoning the flavor of the month when too many others followed suit (or when their fav flavor "sold out" a la Jones). Lots of disposable income in NoVA...

Personally, I love singlespeeds for all the reasons you list in your later post. I rode a Surly 1X1, first with 26" wheels, and later as a 650b conversion until my fitness waned (got lazy) and I decided to build the bike I posted earlier in the thread. I've since regained that fitness and more, but haven't yet convinced myself the current bike is lacking and needs to be replaced with a new singlespeed. As much as I like the current frame, I'd probably just find an appropriate magic gear and go that route.

BTW, when my 1x1 was rocking 26" wheels, I had a flipflop hub with a fixed gear cog on the other side. Fixed gear offroad was more fun than you'd think. Log crossings were a challenge, but I liked the control I got by being directly connected to the rear wheel.

Chris

[peterb]

Black Friday deals for cyclists:
https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/11/22/black-friday-cycling-deals-on-bikes-gear-for-2017/

[hurley842002]

After my 04 Kona Cinder cone was stolen, I picked up this Kona blast used, the previous owner upgraded the fork to a nicer than factory unit, and I swapped out the factory brakes to Shimano SLX. It sees more pavement time with the kids than trails, but I'd like to change that. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/17391171cbb5ccc719d8b1346ac34677.jpg

[SafetyFirst]

Done with carbon fiber frames.
I use to ride a Santa Cruz.
Then this happened 3 days after the 5 year warranty was up.
SC said they would give me a discount for a new frame, but they don’t make 26” tire size frames any more.
Now they have lifetime warranty on frames, although a little to late for me.

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[hiro]

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[hiro]

Lot of Fruita and Moab trips and a bunch of local high country riding here.

About a year and a half ago, I bit the bullet and bought a new bike. It was replacing a Santa Cruz Blur Classic I’d been on for a bunch of years. I settled on an Ibis Ripley LS as a new scoot. It's a mid-travel 29er and falls into the “trail bike” genre by today’s standards. I’ve been totally tickled with its versatility. It’s only 130mm/120mm but descending, even on bigger hit type stuff, it rides like a bike with another two inches of travel. And at the same time, it’s super nimble and flicky for a 29er; kinda like an adult sized BMX bike. On the other side of the coin, it’s one of the best technical climbing bikes I’ve ever owned and I consistently find myself cleaning difficult sections with way less effort/focus than in the past. As a “quiver-of-one”, do-everything trail bike, especially for a taller/larger rider, the new breed of 29ers are pretty impressive.


:)

The 3rd gen Ripley is next on my list to take out (I am spoilt, can take the demo bikes out from a local shop at no charge).

Had fun with this a couple of weeks back :)

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[jeep45238]

Geez....makes me glad I’m looking at aluminum instead of carbon!


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[jeep45238]

So who carries some sort of locator beacon/communication system outside of a cell phone when they're mountain biking (or hiking)? What are your preferences to look for in equipment, and what has an upfront cost vs. something that has monthly payments?

[JodyH]

So who carries some sort of locator beacon/communication system outside of a cell phone when they're mountain biking (or hiking)? What are your preferences to look for in equipment, and what has an upfront cost vs. something that has monthly payments?
I carry a Inmarsat 2 (https://www.amazon.com/BlueCosmo-Inmarsat-IsatPhone-Satellite-Included/dp/B01AKR983M/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1511740705&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=inmarsat+2&psc=1) satellite phone and use Blue Cosmo pre-paid (https://www.amazon.com/BlueCosmo-Inmarsat-IsatPhone-Prepaid-Satellite/dp/B00HVLEY6M/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1511740705&sr=8-13&keywords=inmarsat%2B2&th=1) plan.
Up front is about $600 for the phone and it costs about $500 a year for more minutes than I've ever used.

Much more reliable and useful than just a SPOT.

[mtnbkr]

So who carries some sort of locator beacon/communication system outside of a cell phone when they're mountain biking (or hiking)? What are your preferences to look for in equipment, and what has an upfront cost vs. something that has monthly payments?

I don't. When I ride solo, it is normally in local regional parks where the trails are loops and well traveled. When I ride the "wilderness", I don't do so alone.

Chris

[jeep45238]

That’s the ideal, but I won’t know most of the trails next summer (out of state road trip), nor the frequency of rides. With how sketchy cell reception can be in areas, having a backup seems to be prudent, and for my situation smarter to have than not.

I’m not sure if a 600+ buck satphone will be an option either, so I’ll have to do some research on that.


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[SafetyFirst]

What happened?

Not quite sure. I have a few speculations.
1. Damage might have happened to the bike at the down hill bike park in big bear. The accident where I snapped my right ACL and other knee damage. That was 4 years ago. 2. I didn’t service the bolts connecting the rear triangle and one of those snapped and broke the carbon frame at that the same time. 3. Shit happens. Or 4. All the above.

Either way, at least Santa Cruz would help me out with a discount for a new bike from them. But I am going in a different direction and getting a cross bike in a couple of weeks. My favorite LBS should be receiving it and putting everything together next week, then shipping it to me!

[JodyH]

Not quite sure. I have a few speculations.
1. Damage might have happened to the bike at the down hill bike park in big bear. The accident where I snapped my right ACL and other knee damage. That was 4 years ago. 2. I didn’t service the bolts connecting the rear triangle and one of those snapped and broke the carbon frame at that the same time. 3. Shit happens. Or 4. All the above.

Either way, at least Santa Cruz would help me out with a discount for a new bike from them. But I am going in a different direction and getting a cross bike in a couple of weeks. My favorite LBS should be receiving it and putting everything together next week, then shipping it to me!

CF is not a good material for a beater bike IMO, great for racers though.
Even a fairly light crash can cause an internal fracture that manifests itself as a catastrophic failure at some random time in the future.
I've seen it too many times to ever trust CF as a hard use mountainbike component material.

[taadski]

Ibis just dropped the release of their new long travel (160/145) 29er, the Ripmo, last week. If it rides like all the pre-release reviews tout, I'm going to have a serious case of the wantsies and may have a Ripley LS for sale. :eek:

https://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/ripmo/


Kendall-Weed getting it on the new bike...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQbwJnI38c

[jeep45238]

Wow... meanwhile I’m working out between a 100/100 or a 120/130 bike.


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[jeep45238]

Finally got the scratch and ordered a Trek Too Fuel 8. Its a 100/100 travel bike, which for where I live is just fine and dandy, without giving up much speed to a hard tail on climbs.

Just waiting for it to ship. First real mountain bike, first full squish, first air shock, first tubeless, etc etc.

I’ll order a dropper post in a few weeks/months, and might do a 1x conversion on it later this year.
Then time to sell it and buy the next one


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[cornstalker]

Ibis just dropped the release of their new long travel (160/145) 29er, the Ripmo, last week. If it rides like all the pre-release reviews tout, I'm going to have a serious case of the wantsies and may have a Ripley LS for sale. :eek:

https://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/ripmo/


Kendall-Weed getting it on the new bike...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQbwJnI38c

Awesome footage. I can barely manual on flat ground, that dude can do it all day long over death defying features. Lol.

The uphill teeter-totter scene was unique. Mad skills.

[cornstalker]

Finally got the scratch and ordered a Trek Too Fuel 8. Its a 100/100 travel bike, which for where I live is just fine and dandy, without giving up much speed to a hard tail on climbs.

Just waiting for it to ship. First real mountain bike, first full squish, first air shock, first tubeless, etc etc.

I’ll order a dropper post in a few weeks/months, and might do a 1x conversion on it later this year.
Then time to sell it and buy the next one


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And you will post up some pix once it comes home? The dropper post is a must have in my book. Especially if you ride technical trails. Are you going to do 1x11 or 1x12?

[jeep45238]

And you will post up some pix once it comes home? The dropper post is a must have in my book. Especially if you ride technical trails. Are you going to do 1x11 or 1x12?

Sure thing. Just got a shipping notification, but no tracking number yet. It’ll be hard since I have finals coming up, and this will either be begging to get built or ridden.

I’m going to ride it as is for a bit before I start throwing parts at it, but the plan right now is to ditch the front mech and route the dropper cable internally through the same routing.

I’ll be doing 1x11, since that’s what it comes with. I’ll try the SRAM 12 speed when it’s been out for a few more years.

But truth be told I might not even do the 1x or dropper depending on how it is out of the box.

I am drooling on those ebikes though, just hesitant about the weight of them (50lb or so)


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[taadski]

Awesome footage....Mad skills.

Yeah, he’s sick. So smooth. So much fun to watch. He just released a new video. I’ll see if I can dig it up.


I’ve really grown to prefer a 1X drive train also. I can’t see myself going back to a front derailleur. I appreciate the simplicity too much. And +1 on the droppers. I made fun of buddies with them for years but finally fell victim on my last bike and it seems I have become a bit dependent. :P

In fact, I just recently bought one for my new trail fatty experiment too...


http://i.imgur.com/XejAFnX.jpg

[cornstalker]

Yeah, he’s sick. So smooth. So much fun to watch. He just released a new video. I’ll see if I can dig it up.


I’ve really grown to prefer a 1X drive train also. I can’t see myself going back to a front derailleur. I appreciate the simplicity too much. And +1 on the droppers. I made fun of buddies with them for years but finally fell victim on my last bike and it seems I have become a bit dependent. :P

In fact, I just recently bought one for my new trail fatty experiment too...


http://i.imgur.com/XejAFnX.jpg

Awesome bike. Have never ridden a fat bike, but I dream of one every time I hit the sand and decomposed granite though. The 27.5+ I am riding now is better than the old 26x2.35 I used to ride, but I bet the full fattie just eats that stuff up. What major differences do you notice between it and a mid-travel full suspension bike? How does it behave on technical climbs?

[jeep45238]

Awesome bike. Have never ridden a fat bike, but I dream of one every time I hit the sand and decomposed granite though. The 27.5+ I am riding now is better than the old 26x2.35 I used to ride, but I bet the full fattie just eats that stuff up. What major differences do you notice between it and a mid-travel full suspension bike? How does it behave on technical climbs?

For that stuff I’m really interested in the Full Stach, but it’s also so new the concept hasn’t really been pushed to find weak spots or where it excelled in my limited opinion.

Disclaimer-shop I’m employed at is a Trek dealer.


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[taadski]

What major differences do you notice between it and a mid-travel full suspension bike? How does it behave on technical climbs?

IME they ride a whole lot more similarly to traditional hardtails than they do a suspension bike, despite the tire size. There’s a good bit more squish (I’m dirt trail riding on only 5-7 psi at 175 lbs), gobbs of accessory traction and 5” of width to fit through obstacles, etc... But you still get your rear end bounced around with rocks/roots like a normal hardtail if you botch the line, instead of the bike assisting by staying glued and digging like with modern dual suspension. I climb techy stuff much more effectively on the Ripley over really broken terrain, for example, than I do on the fatty.

I’ve been having a blast with it though. And as noted, on loose, unconsolidated and less travelled stuff, they do great. Another cool thing is the frame is both 27+ and 29+ compatible for dry season romping. I actually, just this week, built a 29 x 3” wheel set for it to try. I haven’t ridden it in that configuration yet though. It’ll be my first stab at that tire size. I’m excited! 😁

[Somewhatstock]

I have and love my 2014 specialized stunpjumper comp evo.

I had an issue with the rear hub but specialized replaced the wheel. I used to ride the long island trails but I bought my house and had a kid last year. It's very difficult for me to get out and ride.

[Doc_Glock]

Awesome bike. Have never ridden a fat bike, but I dream of one every time I hit the sand and decomposed granite though. The 27.5+ I am riding now is better than the old 26x2.35 I used to ride, but I bet the full fattie just eats that stuff up. What major differences do you notice between it and a mid-travel full suspension bike? How does it behave on technical climbs?

I had a fatty a couple years ago for about a week. I hated it.

They are superb at loose surfaces, so if off trail, sand and snow is your thing go for it. I found it impossible to find a sweet spot where the pressures were low enough to provide some cush and damping while being high enough to provide pinch protection.

Technology has come a long way since then but I just can’t see needing a tire over 3.0 for trail use ever.

The Trek Full Stache does have my attention. I would run it with 29x2.5-3.0 tires.

[cornstalker]

For that stuff I’m really interested in the Full Stache

That looks like a bike I would love to have. Looks awesome. By the specs and geometry it should be a very capable all around bike, short of freeride or extreme downhill. Hope it shakes out okay.

[jeep45238]

That looks like a bike I would love to have. Looks awesome. By the specs and geometry it should be a very capable all around bike, short of freeride or extreme downhill. Hope it shakes out okay.

My concern on it might be nothing, but in the video on it they claim the suspension isn't as responsive as a Fuel Ex (130/140mm bike), as they are allowing the mid-fat tires to do the small-compliance part. That might work out wonderfully, but it seems a bit lazy to me given the work they did on the chainstays to keep a good chainline and shorten the wheelbase. I'm kinda looking at it like a Fuel EX 8 27.5+ bike that's been morphed to a 29+, and lost the benefits of the Penske racing rear shock (both bikes do have this shock).

I'm hoping that with Trek making use of the Eagle 12x drivetrain, more riders will pick it and find problems, and SRAM will fix it. My bike choice was almost a Fuel EX with 1x12 SRAM, but decided to go with a 2x11 Shimano drivetrain for long-term durability. I have less inclinations of problems with the higher end 1x12's, but past entry level SRAM rear mechs have used plastic for a cage, and even later models aren't known for having the durability/lack of maintenence as a Shimano rear mech. I really hope I'm wrong, becuase that 1x12 is damn tempting.

I'm also no engineer, and I haven't been able to ride trails in several years, so my opinion (besides being minimally educated, and having never laid hands on a Full Stache) might be completely wrong and looking at something that doesn't matter.

[taadski]

I've also been paying attention to the Full Stache's release. There are a few folks putting their impressions out there. [The] Mike Curiak had the following to say in his review:

"The Trek’s (Full Stache) rear suspension feels incredible. Might be the best overall stock setup (not just with 29+, but across the spectrum of bikes I've ridden, ever) I've ridden when factoring in the big picture of top end suppleness, mid-stroke support, and end stroke ramp. Cannot be overstated how good it is. I think that's the benefit of a big-box player coming to the table -- they buy such volume that they can ask for, and receive, custom valving mapped to the particulars of the chassis."

[jeep45238]

And you will post up some pix once it comes home? The dropper post is a must have in my book. Especially if you ride technical trails. Are you going to do 1x11 or 1x12?

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The frame isn’t really setup for a dropper, and I’m not going to drill a hole to add one. I’m content with the 2x for now, didn’t really use the big cog except for the access path. Brakes great in turns downhill, the tires didn’t loose contact while doing it.

These wide ass handlebars...not the biggest fan. Barely cleared the path a few times, and it just doesn’t feel natural with how far out my hands are. Debating between cutting the tubes or getting a shorter carbon bar. I could use a shorter stem too.

I set it up tubeless, and I like it - just need to play with the pressures a bit, but treks suspension calculator got it set up as a really good baseline for the shocks. Running 25psi front/rear on 2x2.2 tires, and can tell on the harder hits when the tire absorbs THEN the shocks absorb (tires make a noise that makes me laugh).

All in all I like it. I’ll still be selling it in a year to get the latest tech, and possibly sell a few in the fleet to go towards an ebike for road uses. I find I can be fat and happy and drink beer on a mountain bike, but not on a road bike if I’m doing any sort of speed (6’ 190lbs). I did borrow a Trek Supercommuter 8 overnight and test a Trek Crossrip+ (both assist to 28mph) - those things brought a huge smile to my face for my uses.



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[cornstalker]

The frame isn’t really setup for a dropper, and I’m not going to drill a hole to add one. I’m content with the 2x for now, didn’t really use the big cog except for the access path. Brakes great in turns downhill, the tires didn’t loose contact while doing it.

These wide ass handlebars...not the biggest fan. Barely cleared the path a few times, and it just doesn’t feel natural with how far out my hands are. Debating between cutting the tubes or getting a shorter carbon bar. I could use a shorter stem too.

I set it up tubeless, and I like it - just need to play with the pressures a bit, but treks suspension calculator got it set up as a really good baseline for the shocks. Running 25psi front/rear on 2x2.2 tires, and can tell on the harder hits when the tire absorbs THEN the shocks absorb (tires make a noise that makes me laugh).

All in all I like it. I’ll still be selling it in a year to get the latest tech, and possibly sell a few in the fleet to go towards an ebike for road uses. I find I can be fat and happy and drink beer on a mountain bike, but not on a road bike if I’m doing any sort of speed (6’ 190lbs). I did borrow a Trek Supercommuter 8 overnight and test a Trek Crossrip+ (both assist to 28mph) - those things brought a huge smile to my face for my uses.



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Looks awesome. I bet it climbs like a goat.

You could still get a Joplin type dropper with external cable routing and not have to modify anything. It's a godsend if technical downhill is involved.

For the first month I had my Fuel I thought about chopping the wide ass bars down. Now I don't even notice it. Had some pretty tight squeezes, but haven't run in to anything they wouldn't fit through yet on the trails I ride.

Does the Top Fuel have the Mino link? I have never had a desire to adjust mine and wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. Just curious.

Have fun on that bike.

[cornstalker]

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Swapped out my Bontrager Chupacabra tires for some Schwalbe Nobby Nics. The Chupas weren't worn out and really never gave me a problem other than floating a bit more than I care for on sand. A squirmy type of float.

Setup tubeless. The front tire was tough to seat the beads on. I ended up using a ratchet strap to put pressure all the way around while I hit it with the compressor.

If it doesn't rain too much I will be testing them out tomorrow at dawn.

Also replace the rear brakes yesterday.

[jeep45238]

Looks awesome. I bet it climbs like a goat.

You could still get a Joplin type dropper with external cable routing and not have to modify anything. It's a godsend if technical downhill is involved.

For the first month I had my Fuel I thought about chopping the wide ass bars down. Now I don't even notice it. Had some pretty tight squeezes, but haven't run in to anything they wouldn't fit through yet on the trails I ride.

Does the Top Fuel have the Mino link? I have never had a desire to adjust mine and wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there. Just curious.

Have fun on that bike.

I thought about the Joplin style, but it’s above the point of diminishing returns price wise for me (the Trek shop employee thing gives enough of a discount that it’s nearly like being a sponsored rider - including parts). If the in-frame cable routing could have worked I would have done that, but no worries - I just ride with the seat a bit low happy as a clam.

It climbs great, and is capable of so much more than my abilities. With the wide handlebars, I guess it’s like most things - the more you use it the more you get used to it. I do need a shorter stem to bring the bars closer, I’m getting some serious pressure on my palms from the aggressive riding position (part of that is the Top Fuel vs Fuel Ex I guess). Debating about adding a carbon handlebar stem while I’m in there to add a bit more dampening.

The TopFuel does have the Mino link, I left it on the slacker side of things. I could see adjusting it if I was racing for a bit nimbler handling, but not for general riding. I wouldn’t ever bother with it on a Fuel Ex.


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ETA - Biggest change was the shoes . I'm running Bontrager flatlines, which have a grid pattern for the sole. With peg style pedals I can have my feet 80* past horizontal without slipping off - without these shoes it's closer to 50-60*.

[Doc_Glock]

I've also been paying attention to the Full Stache's release. There are a few folks putting their impressions out there. [The] Mike Curiak had the following to say in his review:

"The Trek’s (Full Stache) rear suspension feels incredible. Might be the best overall stock setup (not just with 29+, but across the spectrum of bikes I've ridden, ever) I've ridden when factoring in the big picture of top end suppleness, mid-stroke support, and end stroke ramp. Cannot be overstated how good it is. I think that's the benefit of a big-box player coming to the table -- they buy such volume that they can ask for, and receive, custom valving mapped to the particulars of the chassis."

He also commented on the flex in the system which makes it a complete no go for me.

[taadski]

He also commented on the flex in the system which makes it a complete no go for me.

Truth. He also said "I don't take myself so seriously that I think this matters in the overall, I just find it unsettling when it happens." ;) I'll reserve judgement until I actually get to ride one some.

I've been dabbling quite a bit of late with a set of 29+ wheels on a hardtail of mine and I'm super impressed. I think they may very well at some point become my go to tire/wheel size for general trail bike duties. And I'm REALLY interested in trying them on a FS platform.

[cornstalker]

Having several rides on the Nobby Nics now, I really like them. One thing that took some getting used to was the traction loss when transitioning from center tread blocks to the shoulder lugs. By looking at the tire it doesn't look like it should happen, but if you gradually lean into a corner there is a slip-grab sensation in transition. I have found that if you aggressively throw the bike into the shoulder lugs and add a little pump, they respond reliably and predictably. Jut gotta ride the shit out of 'em.

I put new Shimano factory pads on the rear. They were great for the first couple of rides, now they sound like a spoon in the garbage disposal. Any ideas how to fix that?
I don't see any alignment issues and there is no scoring on the rotors.

ETA: The caliper is centered. No visible rotor flex with application.

[mtnbkr]

I put new Shimano factory pads on the rear. They were great for the first couple of rides, now they sound like a spoon in the garbage disposal. Any ideas how to fix that?
I don't see any alignment issues and there is no scoring on the rotors.

Did you clean your rotors? When I change pads (and periodically in the life of the pads) I wipe down the rotors with denatured alcohol.

Also, being new pads, you may need to bed them in. I do that by getting the bike up to speed and braking hard a few times in a row.

Since you've already "used" the pads on presumably unclean rotors (not dirty mind you, just not "clean"), I'd remove the pads, give them a cleaning with alcohol (whether or not *you* need "cleaning" with alcohol at the same time is up to you), clean the rotors, reassemble, then bed the pads as described above and see if it resolves the issue.

Chris

[cornstalker]

Thanks for the reply, Chris.
I did indeed clean the rotor with 90% rubbing alcohol. Wet a rag and wiped them down until the black stuff quit coming off. I will try seating them in more. With the rides I have been on I would expect them to be seated. Maybe I will take them apart and clean them up again.

I might try scuffing the friction surface with some sandpaper and chamfer the edges, then break them in again.

[mtnbkr]

Thanks for the reply, Chris.
I did indeed clean the rotor with 90% rubbing alcohol. Wet a rag and wiped them down until the black stuff quit coming off. I will try seating them in more. With the rides I have been on I would expect them to be seated. Maybe I will take them apart and clean them up again.

I might try scuffing the friction surface with some sandpaper and chamfer the edges, then break them in again.

I would have expected that to be sufficient then. Are the pads the same type of friction material? Semi-metallic pads are noisier than organic pads.

Chris

[cornstalker]

I would have expected that to be sufficient then. Are the pads the same type of friction material? Semi-metallic pads are noisier than organic pads.

Chris

It doesn't say on the package. I presume they are organic or maybe even ceramic based on this quote from the product page on Chain Reaction Cycles.


Shimano has adopted Ice-Technologies into their disc brake pad range to provide the cooling technology required for consistent performance. These Shimano Acera-Altus (B01S) Disc Brake Pads produce less noise than metal pads and offer increased modulation.

I should tear them back down. I guess it is possible that I picked up some grit in there and am over complicating this like I have a tendency to do.

[mtnbkr]

It doesn't say on the package. I presume they are organic or maybe even ceramic based on this quote from the product page on Chain Reaction Cycles.

I should tear them back down. I guess it is possible that I picked up some grit in there and am over complicating this like I have a tendency to do.

Per this page (https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/technologies/component/details/ice-technologies), Ice Technology can be resin or metallic.

It can be tricky getting metallic pads quiet, especially if you're coming from resin pads.

Chris

[cornstalker]

They are resin for sure. It is stamped in the back of the pad. Coming from an automotive background, I am not used to seeing the term resin to describe a friction material compound.

Again, thanks for the help. I never stop learning around here.

[jeep45238]

Having several rides on the Nobby Nics now, I really like them. One thing that took some getting used to was the traction loss when transitioning from center tread blocks to the shoulder lugs. By looking at the tire it doesn't look like it should happen, but if you gradually lean into a corner there is a slip-grab sensation in transition. I have found that if you aggressively throw the bike into the shoulder lugs and add a little pump, they respond reliably and predictably. Jut gotta ride the shit out of 'em.

I put new Shimano factory pads on the rear. They were great for the first couple of rides, now they sound like a spoon in the garbage disposal. Any ideas how to fix that?
I don't see any alignment issues and there is no scoring on the rotors.

ETA: The caliper is centered. No visible rotor flex with application.

Do you have access to a wheel truing stand? If so, mount the wheel, then drill a hole in one side of the arms for the stand, then thread it and put a bolt in there that is long enough to reach in and touch the rotor.

Once you do this modification, you essentially can true wheels AND rotors. It’s not uncommon for us to get bikes brand new in the box with over-torqued bottom brackets, headsets, and bent rotors. Never hurts to double check the straightness. We have much better luck with longevity of Shimano disk components than SRAM - Hope and the like, well, we don’t recommend them for serious riders.

Is there any coloration to the rotors? The most common rotors are stamped sheet metal, and once they’re overheated they’re done for. If that’s the case, you can get some of the Shimano ICE rotors - they have aluminum for the core, and the best ones have a heat sink attached to the core that can get temps 150* below standard rotors. The forged aluminum spiders help with torsional stiffness too.

Nearly every rotor should be able to run with resin pads quietly. I know rubbing alcohol is the way to go per instructions, but the car guy in me grabs brake cleaner every time.

There is a chance that your caliper might be just a smidge offcenter - an easy way to check for this is to loosen the caliper bolts just enough for some movement, then apply the brake as hard as possible, and tighten the bolts while pressure is applied. This forces the caliper body and pads to be centered over the disk. We made a jig at the shop that we put over the rotor to ensure the pads hover a bit further away from the disk to reduced the chance of rubbing while riding, but you can replicate this with a business card on each side of the rotor, then clamping the brake lever down and tightening. Just make sure to open the pads up all the way before you begin if you try this with a tire lever so they start at the same distance from the rotor face, then insert the spacer, then loosen, then apply pressure (may take multiple pumps). Same concept.

It sounds like you ride hard. My suspicion is they have been overheated a smidge and lost some of the heat treatment, OR you have a caliper pot that isn’t fully retracting (happens a lot with the Deore calipers). I’d pull the wheel and work the pads back and forth with a tire lever and the brake lever, and be very observant if one is dragging slightly and not retracting with the same speed or distance as the other one. While the wheel is off I’d look very close at the rotors for discoloration. For reference - this is what a discolored rotor starts to look like (look at the tint at the rotorface vs the center http://forums.mtbr.com/brake-time/rotor-discoloration-474549.html ). It will then go from that blue to a yellow then brown then purple with increasing amounts of excess heat.

Just remember that if you want more power, go to a bigger diameter. If you hit overheating, get aluminum-cored rotors. If this is better but not quite there, combine with ICE pads. If you still get overheating, go bigger and combine with the aluminum-cored components. The larger diameter will cool faster and offers more mass to distribute the heat evenly.

[mtnbkr]

<rotor truing>

Good point, I wasn't even thinking about the rotor touching the pads.

Chris

[cornstalker]

Do you have access to a wheel truing stand? If so, mount the wheel, then drill a hole in one side of the arms for the stand, then thread it and put a bolt in there that is long enough to reach in and touch the rotor.

Once you do this modification, you essentially can true wheels AND rotors. It’s not uncommon for us to get bikes brand new in the box with over-torqued bottom brackets, headsets, and bent rotors. Never hurts to double check the straightness. We have much better luck with longevity of Shimano disk components than SRAM - Hope and the like, well, we don’t recommend them for serious riders.

Is there any coloration to the rotors? The most common rotors are stamped sheet metal, and once they’re overheated they’re done for. If that’s the case, you can get some of the Shimano ICE rotors - they have aluminum for the core, and the best ones have a heat sink attached to the core that can get temps 150* below standard rotors. The forged aluminum spiders help with torsional stiffness too.

Nearly every rotor should be able to run with resin pads quietly. I know rubbing alcohol is the way to go per instructions, but the car guy in me grabs brake cleaner every time.

There is a chance that your caliper might be just a smidge offcenter - an easy way to check for this is to loosen the caliper bolts just enough for some movement, then apply the brake as hard as possible, and tighten the bolts while pressure is applied. This forces the caliper body and pads to be centered over the disk. We made a jig at the shop that we put over the rotor to ensure the pads hover a bit further away from the disk to reduced the chance of rubbing while riding, but you can replicate this with a business card on each side of the rotor, then clamping the brake lever down and tightening. Just make sure to open the pads up all the way before you begin if you try this with a tire lever so they start at the same distance from the rotor face, then insert the spacer, then loosen, then apply pressure (may take multiple pumps). Same concept.

It sounds like you ride hard. My suspicion is they have been overheated a smidge and lost some of the heat treatment, OR you have a caliper pot that isn’t fully retracting (happens a lot with the Deore calipers). I’d pull the wheel and work the pads back and forth with a tire lever and the brake lever, and be very observant if one is dragging slightly and not retracting with the same speed or distance as the other one. While the wheel is off I’d look very close at the rotors for discoloration. For reference - this is what a discolored rotor starts to look like (look at the tint at the rotorface vs the center http://forums.mtbr.com/brake-time/rotor-discoloration-474549.html ). It will then go from that blue to a yellow then brown then purple with increasing amounts of excess heat.

Just remember that if you want more power, go to a bigger diameter. If you hit overheating, get aluminum-cored rotors. If this is better but not quite there, combine with ICE pads. If you still get overheating, go bigger and combine with the aluminum-cored components. The larger diameter will cool faster and offers more mass to distribute the heat evenly.

Thanks for the input. I will throw a dial indicator on the rotor as soon as I can. Will also check for uneven pad application side to side. The caliper is definitely centered and has equal pad gap on both sides.

Today was washer and dryer mechanic. Maybe I will get to the bike tomorrow.

[mtnbkr]

Today was washer and dryer mechanic. Maybe I will get to the bike tomorrow.

Your priorities are skewed. :p

Chris

[nightstalker865]

I’ve been looking at the Trek Fuel EX 8 lately.

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[ChaseN]

Holy shit, gun guys that like mountain bikes? I'm in heaven. I ride a 2016 Giant Trance 2 27.5. Tear up the northern Virginia single track (my backyard borders 50+ miles of it) with my partner in crime, a 4 year old black lab named Penny. She follows me for hours at a time.

On the topic of guns and mountain bikes, does anyone else carry while they ride? I pack a G19 AIWB on all my rides, but I'm looking to transition to a DA/SA gun for peace of mind given the aggressive way i ride. Thinking P30 or P07. Any thoughts?

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[mtnbkr]

Holy shit, gun guys that like mountain bikes? I'm in heaven. I ride a 2016 Giant Trance 2 27.5. Tear up the northern Virginia single track (my backyard borders 50+ miles of it) with my partner in crime, a 4 year old black lab named Penny. She follows me for hours at a time.

On the topic of guns and mountain bikes, does anyone else carry while they ride? I pack a G19 AIWB on all my rides, but I'm looking to transition to a DA/SA gun for peace of mind given the aggressive way i ride. Thinking P30 or P07. Any thoughts?


The first pic looks like Difficult Run or the CCC trail.

Chris

[jeep45238]

I’ve been looking at the Trek Fuel EX 8 lately.

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Get the XT version, SRAM disk brakes suck. The Top Fuel 8 is comparable, minus the dropper post, for less money and an inch or so less travel.


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[ChaseN]

The first pic looks like Difficult Run or the CCC trail.

Chris

Excellent eye. #1 is CCT in Lake Fairfax Park. #2 is difficult run approaching browns mill, #3 is colvin run between hunter mill and rt 7. #2 was last Saturday morning after Friday night's monsoon. The water behind me is literally the (usually gravel) last bit of difficult run trail on a ride to meet some buddies at Vienna Inn for lunch and a little W&OD brew tour. Pedaled through water above my bottom bracket for a good 3 miles, passed two snapping turtles swimming along with me, first time leaving wake on a mountain bike!

[mtnbkr]

Excellent eye. #1 is CCT in Lake Fairfax Park. #2 is difficult run approaching browns mill, #3 is colvin run between hunter mill and rt 7. #2 was last Saturday morning after Friday night's monsoon. The water behind me is literally the (usually gravel) last bit of difficult run trail on a ride to meet some buddies at Vienna Inn for lunch and a little W&OD brew tour. Pedaled through water above my bottom bracket for a good 3 miles, passed two snapping turtles swimming along with me, first time leaving wake on a mountain bike!

Cool. I ride DR fairly often since my office is nearby. Well, I used to. Now that I work from home, I don't get out to the office much.

W&OD brewery tour? Nope, no clue what you're talking about at all. ;)

Here's a pic of me on the DR trail back in the 90s. :D

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[nightstalker865]

Thanks for the advice on looking for an XT equipped model of the Fuel EX. I raced XC back in the late 90’s-early 2000’s and have always ridden hard tails. I’ve decided to get back into it as a hobby and I’m looking towards a FS bike, this time around. I know the technology is vastly better than what FS bikes were out two decades ago. Looking forward to seeing how the new bikes shake out. 29 or 27.5 is really a big decision for for me right now.

I’ve always ran XT or XTR components, so I’m well aware of their quality. I’ll look at both options, but I’m biased towards the XT stuff going in.

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[jc000]

Did you guys see Shimano XTR 12sp is on it’s way?

https://m.pinkbike.com/news/xtr-9100-is-here-how-did-it-remain-so-secret.html

[mtnbkr]

Did you guys see Shimano XTR 12sp is on it’s way?

https://m.pinkbike.com/news/xtr-9100-is-here-how-did-it-remain-so-secret.html

Meh. I'm still running 9spd on my mountain bike (and square taper cranks that use nearly indestructible bottom brackets). It works and chains don't break like they seem to do with my 10sp and 11sp friends. Higher gear density makes *some* sense on road bikes where a wide range and small jumps between gears is beneficial, but not so much on mountain bikes IMO. I run a 32t ring with 11-34t cluster and seldom use the 11t cog. The 34t cog is low enough that I have difficulty keeping the front pinned without the rear spinning. I guess I'm just weary of the bicycle arms race.

Chris

[jc000]

Meh. I'm still running 9spd on my mountain bike (and square taper cranks that use nearly indestructible bottom brackets). It works and chains don't break like they seem to do with my 10sp and 11sp friends. Higher gear density makes *some* sense on road bikes where a wide range and small jumps between gears is beneficial, but not so much on mountain bikes IMO. I run a 32t ring with 11-34t cluster and seldom use the 11t cog. The 34t cog is low enough that I have difficulty keeping the front pinned without the rear spinning. I guess I'm just weary of the bicycle arms race.

Chris

I’m still running 9sp myself – 44/32/22 against an 11-32. That being said, having worked on bikes for many years both as an amateur and as a “pro”, front derailleur suck. I definitely welcome the move towards 1x drivetrains and will plan on all my future builds being set up that way.

I would tend to agree that 11sp seems to be pushing the boundaries of utility / reliability. But as a lifelong Shimano fanboy I’m excited to see what they bring to the table for 12sp. XTR has always performed flawlessly for me and I’m guessing they didn’t hold out this long to put out something substandard.

FWIW they’re also coming out with a new 11sp 10-45 cassette which looks promising

[mtnbkr]

I’m still running 9sp myself – 44/32/22 against an 11-32. That being said, having worked on bikes for many years both as an amateur and as a “pro”, front derailleur suck. I definitely welcome the move towards 1x drivetrains and will plan on all my future builds being set up that way.

I would tend to agree that 11sp seems to be pushing the boundaries of utility / reliability. But as a lifelong Shimano fanboy I’m excited to see what they bring to the table for 12sp. XTR has always performed flawlessly for me and I’m guessing they didn’t hold out this long to put out something substandard.

FWIW they’re also coming out with a new 11sp 10-45 cassette which looks promising

I don't have any direct experience with XTR being a recreational rider and #poorfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfag) , but it has always struck me as being well designed, functional, and not there just as bling.

If I were to go 11spd, I'd like to have something like a 15-40 cassette with a 34t ring up front. That would give me all the range I could desire.

I've been a 1x rider since 2008ish (when I wasn't singlespeeding) and have no intentions of ever installing a front derailleur on a mountain bike ever again. I have an unused front XT Rapidfire shifter in my parts box. :)

Chris

[jeep45238]

Did you guys see Shimano XTR 12sp is on it’s way?

https://m.pinkbike.com/news/xtr-9100-is-here-how-did-it-remain-so-secret.html

I’m excited about it. It’s nice that they’re introducing a silent hub again, that’ll change the audible experience in a positive direction.


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[mtnbkr]

I’m excited about it. It’s nice that they’re introducing a silent hub again, that’ll change the audible experience in a positive direction.
I take it you're not a Chris King fan then? :D

Chris

[jeep45238]

I take it you're not a Chris King fan then? :D

Chris

I enjoy them in the shop, but I doubt I would ever ride on them [emoji3]


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[Lomshek]

Thanks for the reply, Chris.
I did indeed clean the rotor with 90% rubbing alcohol. Wet a rag and wiped them down until the black stuff quit coming off. I will try seating them in more. With the rides I have been on I would expect them to be seated. Maybe I will take them apart and clean them up again.

I might try scuffing the friction surface with some sandpaper and chamfer the edges, then break them in again.

If you used a rag of some kind (especially red shop rags) you probably cleaned the visible grime off but re-contaminated the rotor with the oils that are on those rags even when they're "clean".

For rotor cleaning I use plain white paper towels (no dyes) and keep using new towels until they look clean after wiping the rotor. If a rotor has been contaminated with oil overspray a lot of times you have to clean the edges and holes with Q-tips to get oils that will otherwise make their way back onto the braking surface in time and ruin the new pads.

It's incredibly easy to contaminate pads by missing a small detail when cleaning the rotor. Apologies if you have this covered but I see it happen often enough when bikes come into my shop that it seemed worth sharing.

[cornstalker]

If you used a rag of some kind (especially red shop rags) you probably cleaned the visible grime off but re-contaminated the rotor with the oils that are on those rags even when they're "clean".

For rotor cleaning I use plain white paper towels (no dyes) and keep using new towels until they look clean after wiping the rotor. If a rotor has been contaminated with oil overspray a lot of times you have to clean the edges and holes with Q-tips to get oils that will otherwise make their way back onto the braking surface in time and ruin the new pads.

It's incredibly easy to contaminate pads by missing a small detail when cleaning the rotor. Apologies if you have this covered but I see it happen often enough when bikes come into my shop that it seemed worth sharing.

I used an old but clean cotton tee shirt. I did not clean the holes though. Will try that too. I have another set of pads on hand in case I have ruined those.
The sound occurs with hard app, and it sounds like the edge of the pads are catching on the holes in the rotors. (Which is why I have spend a tremendous amount of time checking and rechecking the alignment)
I still haven't tested to see if the pads are being applied and retracted at an even rate. The rotor does not look discolored from heat.
Looks like I wont get back to this until after I get back from a trip over the weekend.
I really appreciate the replies. I will put the tips to use next week.

[Lomshek]

I used an old but clean cotton tee shirt. I did not clean the holes though. Will try that too. I have another set of pads on hand in case I have ruined those.
The sound occurs with hard app, and it sounds like the edge of the pads are catching on the holes in the rotors. (Which is why I have spend a tremendous amount of time checking and rechecking the alignment)
I still haven't tested to see if the pads are being applied and retracted at an even rate. The rotor does not look discolored from heat.
Looks like I wont get back to this until after I get back from a trip over the weekend.
I really appreciate the replies. I will put the tips to use next week.

If nothing else works just drive to the far side of Kansas and I'll take a look and if I'm stymied head to Ohio so Jeep can see what's up! LOL

You might also try "exercising" the pistons in case one is sticking a little and causing a pad to hit cockeyed. With the pads removed use a plastic tire lever to press both pistons all the way in then hold one piston in with the tire lever while squeezing the brake so that the other piston moves out. Be careful not to go too far but you can pretty safely have the piston 1/8" or a little more proud of the caliper (as if they were having to move way out to compensate for worn out pads). Press that piston back in all the way and repeat a couple more times then switch to the other piston and do the same. That moving in and out further than normal will help to lube the piston seals and make sure they're not catching on a spot in their track which would cause them to pitch sideways a little causing the pad to hit the rotor not flat.

Last thing to look for. Because of a sticky piston I've seen people accidentally set up the caliper so that the caliper mounting adapter or caliper body mounting point drags on the rotor when the rotor flexes over sideways. Make sure that your pistons are set so that the rotor & pads end up centered in the slot in the caliper instead of off to one side of the caliper slot. That should be obvious because of wear on the parts touching the rotor.

You should be able to put a business card or two between any part of the caliper body or bracket and the rotor.

[jeep45238]

Re: the gap - business cards are a good handy gauge.

However, it’s entirely possible to setup your brakes so there less of a gap. This pretty much guarantees a slight rub when rocking the bike back and forth when you’re off it (I have mine this way). The benefit for lower end brakes is there’s less free play in the lever. You can intentionally do this by removing the wheel, lightly pressing the brake lever, then reinstalling it. Repeat until it’s at your preference.

Those folks with fancy stuff however, sometimes have a screw to adjust the lever distance (most have this) but also the free play in the lever before the pads are applied.


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[frozentundra]

What is the used glock 19 of mountain bikes?

I want to get a bike, but I know almost nothing about them and don't want to spend a ton of time trying to learn about features and applications. I would mostly be riding on relatively flat gravel roads, some of them really washboardy, up one very steep gravel road, and occasionally going on some mild trails with mud or sand.

It'd be great to find something used that is maximum bang for the buck. Doesn't have to be pretty, just well suited for what I'm doing. I don't need anything fancy, but if there are some obvious choices it'd save me hassle and the chance of wasting money.

Thanks

[jc000]

frozentundra, for the type of riding you’re referring to, I’d just suggest getting a cyclocross bike. You could probably find a used Surly Cross-Check for a reasonable price.

[jeep45238]

What is the used glock 19 of mountain bikes?

I want to get a bike, but I know almost nothing about them and don't want to spend a ton of time trying to learn about features and applications. I would mostly be riding on relatively flat gravel roads, some of them really washboardy, up one very steep gravel road, and occasionally going on some mild trails with mud or sand.

It'd be great to find something used that is maximum bang for the buck. Doesn't have to be pretty, just well suited for what I'm doing. I don't need anything fancy, but if there are some obvious choices it'd save me hassle and the chance of wasting money.

Thanks

What’s your budget? What your describing sounds like prime time for a hard tail with flat bars. I’d seriously consider a Trek Marlin to start.

[Lomshek]

Re: the gap - business cards are a good handy gauge.

However, it’s entirely possible to setup your brakes so there less of a gap. This pretty much guarantees a slight rub when rocking the bike back and forth when you’re off it (I have mine this way). The benefit for lower end brakes is there’s less free play in the lever. You can intentionally do this by removing the wheel, lightly pressing the brake lever, then reinstalling it. Repeat until it’s at your preference.

Those folks with fancy stuff however, sometimes have a screw to adjust the lever distance (most have this) but also the free play in the lever before the pads are applied.


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I meant just that the caliper body and adapter bracket should not be closer than a business card's width to the rotor. The brake pads, as you know, will be much closer than that on any hydraulic set up.

I see many brakes set up with the pads centered on the rotor but not on the caliper slot because of a stuck piston (one piston far out and one piston full in) with the result being that the aluminum of the caliper drags the rotor slightly. No bueno as they say. It happens with mechanical calipers too but could be the cause of his noise.

[jeep45238]

I gotcha, no is my reading comprehension wasn’t quite there


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[peterb]

What is the used glock 19 of mountain bikes?

I want to get a bike, but I know almost nothing about them and don't want to spend a ton of time trying to learn about features and applications. I would mostly be riding on relatively flat gravel roads, some of them really washboardy, up one very steep gravel road, and occasionally going on some mild trails with mud or sand.

It'd be great to find something used that is maximum bang for the buck. Doesn't have to be pretty, just well suited for what I'm doing. I don't need anything fancy, but if there are some obvious choices it'd save me hassle and the chance of wasting money.

Thanks

There are a lot more choices in the bike world, and fewer proprietary parts. For example, almost all drivetrains & brakes are Shimano or SRAM, suspensions are Rock Shox or Fox, etc. Specialized and Trek are the biggest names but there’s also Giant, Scott, and a host of others.

For what you describe, you don’t need a lot of suspension travel. A short-travel full-suspension bike or a hardtail would work. Longer suspension travel is better as things get lumpier but adds weight and usually hurts climbing.

[frozentundra]

What’s your budget? What your describing sounds like prime time for a hard tail with flat bars. I’d seriously consider a Trek Marlin to start.

As cheap as I can get away with! I just finished going back to college, which burned a hole through my savings account, so I'm putting myself on a strict budget. I'll need to sell some of the unused stuff that's lounging around in my safe to shake loose some funds.

I don't have any deep passion for bike riding, but I think it can be a useful means to an end. I really like running, but as I get older, and my knees start to worry me more, I'd like to find a lower impact alternative that helps me get my cardio fix.

But I don't know the difference between a walmart bike and something well used--but well made. It seems that some of the major brands make walmart level stuff AND decent mid-level stuff. It all looks the same to me. Like a Del-ton or DPMS vs a Colt 6920. They're all the same thing, right? No, not even close! I'd like the equivalent of a scuffed up 6920 with 3500 rounds through it, VS a DPMS that looks new and costs $50 less. I just need a bike to function properly, and it'd also be nice to maximize my performance:dollar ratio.

I looked for cyclocross, Surly, and Trek, but I'm not having a ton of luck on craigslist in my area. Any other ideas?

[frozentundra]

Also, I'm 5'8'' and 150-160 lbs. Does this mean anything specific about what frame/tire size I should be looking for. There are so many options, and I have NO idea about any of this stuff.

[dontshakepandas]

Also, I'm 5'8'' and 150-160 lbs. Does this mean anything specific about what frame/tire size I should be looking for. There are so many options, and I have NO idea about any of this stuff.
Keep in mind the following advice is from a complete noob, but I just went through a similar process.

I'd suggest going to a local bike shop and trying some different bikes/sizes and have someone there who knows that they are doing help you determine what will work best for you. They may also have some used bikes for sale (mine did) or perhaps be able to get you in contact with someone who is looking to sell their current bike to upgrade.

All of the different options can be overwhelming, but I found going to a few different bike shops really helped me figure out what was important to ME. For example, I'm about 6 inches taller than you and about 50 pounds heavier so getting something with a legit air suspension on the front was important to me since I'd probably tear up something with cheaper suspension really quickly. I also found that I wanted a 1x drive train since they are so simple and it had been so long since I was on a bike, and I had never used a bike with gears before.

Once you figure out what you want and what size you need, it will definitely help you figure out what to look for on the used market.

I bought a Marin hardtail a few months ago and have been getting used to being on a bike again. It had been probably 15 years since I had been on a bike at all, but now I'm starting to get comfortable enough that I'm hoping to actually try some local trails soon. It definitely isn't an inexpensive hobby though. By the time I had mid level bikes for myself and my wife, helmets, basic maintenance items (air pump, tire changes, etc.), a storage solution, and some replacement pedals since the ones that came with my bike were way too slippery I was in for at least $2,000.

[jeep45238]

As cheap as I can get away with! I just finished going back to college, which burned a hole through my savings account, so I'm putting myself on a strict budget. I'll need to sell some of the unused stuff that's lounging around in my safe to shake loose some funds.

I don't have any deep passion for bike riding, but I think it can be a useful means to an end. I really like running, but as I get older, and my knees start to worry me more, I'd like to find a lower impact alternative that helps me get my cardio fix.

But I don't know the difference between a walmart bike and something well used--but well made. It seems that some of the major brands make walmart level stuff AND decent mid-level stuff. It all looks the same to me. Like a Del-ton or DPMS vs a Colt 6920. They're all the same thing, right? No, not even close! I'd like the equivalent of a scuffed up 6920 with 3500 rounds through it, VS a DPMS that looks new and costs $50 less. I just need a bike to function properly, and it'd also be nice to maximize my performance:dollar ratio.

I looked for cyclocross, Surly, and Trek, but I'm not having a ton of luck on craigslist in my area. Any other ideas?

Send me a pm, I’m on the road for a few days and that’ll help remind me to respond. I’m happy to discuss in PM if that’s easier for you.


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[idahojess]

Also, I'm 5'8'' and 150-160 lbs. Does this mean anything specific about what frame/tire size I should be looking for. There are so many options, and I have NO idea about any of this stuff.

I'm about the same size --- I think a medium bike would be your frame size. The issue of wheel size (27.5 vs 29) may be the equivalent of a .45 vs 9mm debate. I'm a luddite, and ride a 26, which they don't make anymore (I've been mountain biking off and on since 1989). I don't think you can go wrong with a hard tail with front suspension and disc brakes -- the trek Marlin that was mentioned earlier looks like a good start (I have no experience with that bike, but it looks like a fair deal, with hydraulic brakes and a coil sprung front suspension fork).

I really think disc brakes and front suspension have made mountain biking a much saner sport. (I ride a FS bike right now).

Too fancy (i.e full suspension) and you risk blowing money on something you won't get into, which is overkill and heavy for street riding. But you should get something with enough capability (front fork, disk brakes) that you can try trail riding to see if you like it. Odds are, you will!

Remember the rule about light, strong, cheap: pick two.

Try to support your local bike shop if you can.

[cornstalker]

I still haven't pursued the brakes noise further. I just don't use them... Lol.

I have no aspirations of becoming a mountain bike YouTuber, but here is a quick video of some of the trails I ride in the morning before work. The first two segments were recon on new trails. The first is a chunky black trail called the Black Pearl. The last two segments were fun rips down trails I am familiar with.


https://youtu.be/Akd9yF3VdUM

[jeep45238]

I still haven't pursued the brakes noise further. I just don't use them... Lol.

I have no aspirations of becoming a mountain bike YouTuber, but here is a quick video of some of the trails I ride in the morning before work. The first two segments were recon on new trails. The first is a chunky black trail called the Black Pearl. The last two segments were fun rips down trails I am familiar with.


https://youtu.be/Akd9yF3VdUM


https://gopro.com/v/5NLDwLEyPDRe

This was my wife’s 3rs time off pavement, and her first time in the lead (she accidentally went off the green and onto the red race once). My shop happened across a Liv Embolden 2 that fits her, with remote lockout on the fork and a dropper post.

Our green loop is basically smooth rolling hiking, our intermediate has some loose rock sections with roots, and our red is filled with roots and creek crossings.

If you have a trek bike with a Blendr stem, the go-pro case and the Blendr bases interface like they were made for it.


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[jc000]

Good bye, old friend…

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[taadski]

Good bye, old friend…


#onebyrevolution (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=onebyrevolution)
#goodriddance (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=goodriddance)

[Lex Luthier]

Good bye, old friend…

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They come, and they go.

I am currently running 1995 Shimano Deore XTR on the drop bar MTB, 2012 Shimano Tiagra on the modern utility-cyclocross bike, and 1978 Campagnolo Gran Sport (last hurrah of the original 1954 group) on the go-fast vintage roadbike.

We use them until they stop working for us, and then we move on.

[mtnbkr]

#onebyrevolution (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=onebyrevolution)
#goodriddance (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=goodriddance)

Except my road bikes and my forays into singlespeed and fixed gear mountain bikes, I've been 1x since 2008. It wasn't even a thing when I did it, I just didn't see the need for the granny and big rings with 11x32 clusters and a 32t middle ring. Granted, most of my riding is in the rolling hills of NoVA, but with gear clusters coming out with 42t cogs, 1x is even more practical 10 years later.

Chris

[MD7305]

Anybody have a Trek Stache or Kona Honzo? Looking to add a hardtail and I like both of these bikes but I've only ridden a Stache. I got rid of my hardtail last year, it was a Niner SIR9 set up with a 120mm SID. I think long travel, slacked geometry hardtail are a blast and really versatile.

[taadski]

Anybody have a Trek Stache or Kona Honzo? Looking to add a hardtail and I like both of these bikes but I've only ridden a Stache. I got rid of my hardtail last year, it was a Niner SIR9 set up with a 120mm SID. I think long travel, slacked geometry hardtail are a blast and really versatile.

I agree completely.

I’ve ridden Honzos in the past but I don’t currently own one. However the hardtail I build up this spring is a Kona Wozo; a fatbike frame that pretty closely replicates the Honzo’s geometry. Based on my experience with them both, I think that’s pretty spot on. FWIW, I’ve been riding it as a trail hardtail with a 29+ wheel set (3” tires).

I haven’t ridden a Stache (or a Full Stache) yet, but plus tire compatibility with a modern trail geo has me pining to try them both. If I hadn’t wanted true 26” fat tire capability for shoulder season riding, I’d very likely have gone with the Stache outright.

FWIW, I’ve slightly slackened the HTA of the Wozo using an angle headset and by adding some fork travel. Both with positive results, although I’m still tinkering. It has been a fun project and I’ve been having a blast with it. (Don't mind the cat photo bomb. :p)


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[Trukinjp13]

Bumping this back up. Hoping to pick up a new bike in the next month or so. Looking to spend 600ish. I know, not exactly big money. I have a Trek 4300 with 26” on her. It is okay but needs some work. I am looking for a faster bike.

I live on dirt roads but do like to ride to work. Mix of dirt/asphalt. Also have a lot of trails out by me. Loose dirt/sand/mud. Lil bit of everything. I am debating between a 29er and a plus size tire bike. Can anyone help me out?? Thanks guys.

[jc000]

Bumping this back up. Hoping to pick up a new bike in the next month or so. Looking to spend 600ish. I know, not exactly big money. I have a Trek 4300 with 26” on her. It is okay but needs some work. I am looking for a faster bike.

I live on dirt roads but do like to ride to work. Mix of dirt/asphalt. Also have a lot of trails out by me. Loose dirt/sand/mud. Lil bit of everything. I am debating between a 29er and a plus size tire bike. Can anyone help me out?? Thanks guys.

$600 will be pretty tough. I know it sounds like sounds like a significant amount of money, but we're talking about a complex mechanical machine that can transport you for (pretty much) unlimited distances, and can support a grown humans weight as it bashes and rolls over all manner of terrain.

If you are severely restricted to that budget I would recommend getting something used. I see a lot of good offerings on Facebook and Craigslist that would fit within your range in my area, and would certainly suggest checking out what turns up in yours.

As I commonly do, I would recommend a 29" bike, rigid if possible, or a cyclocross bike (basically a durable road bike with knobby tires). I'd steer away from a plus tire bike. I think they are gimmicky, heavy, and more of a fun speciality bike than something you'll want to put a ton of miles on. But then again what do I know!

Recognizing this is nearly twice your budget, I think this is about the perfect bike for someone looking for a highly capable ride that will be efficient and won't break the bank: http://www.konaworld.com/unit_x.cfm. Best news is that you could run 29 or 27+ wheels on it if you really want to have both options available.

[mtnbkr]

I concur with what JC000 said. However, unless you know how to evaluate a used bike, especially if it has shocks, hydraulic brakes, etc, I'd steer clear of used unless it's from a trusted seller. However, if you can wait a couple months, bikes will start to go on end-of-season clearance sale and you can stretch your dollars further. Also, if you have a Performance Bike nearby, their house brand bikes are a pretty good deal. They won't give you any trailhead bragging rights, but they'll ride and handle well. FWIW, I've been rocking an Access (Performance house brand) frame for the last 6-7 years and love it. I got it on clearance for less than $100.

A cross or gravel bike would be a good option if you're not doing any hardcore offroading. Gravel bikes are similar to Cross bikes except they tend to be a bit more mild mannered handling-wise. Get something that can handle up to 40c tires and you won't miss not having a true mountain bike most of the time.

Chris

[taadski]

Can anyone help me out?? Thanks guys.


Pretty funny, but I also immediately went to the Kona homepage and leafed through their hardtail options when I read your post. Reason being they have some really well spec'd bikes at really reasonable prices for todays market. I have a buddy who owns a local shop that rides a Unit as a hardtail single speed. It's pretty much his go-to bike. It is a skosh above your price range, but it really does check all your boxes and offers the ability to play with 27.5+ or 29. It's also suspension compatible if you decide you want to go that route later.

I bought a mid-range Kona hardtail as an experiment this spring. Interestingly, for the majority of the summer, it's the bike I've been grabbing most for daily rides, despite having access to several high-end carbon wonder-bikes. I'd give them a look.


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[Mjolnir]

These two plus the cyclocross.
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[SafetyFirst]

Ti me up.

[bravo7]

Spot brand, steel hard tail with SS belt drive.

[jeep45238]

Bumping this back up. Hoping to pick up a new bike in the next month or so. Looking to spend 600ish. I know, not exactly big money. I have a Trek 4300 with 26” on her. It is okay but needs some work. I am looking for a faster bike.

I live on dirt roads but do like to ride to work. Mix of dirt/asphalt. Also have a lot of trails out by me. Loose dirt/sand/mud. Lil bit of everything. I am debating between a 29er and a plus size tire bike. Can anyone help me out?? Thanks guys.

Trek Marlin 6 would be my recommendation. It does have rack and fender mounts in case you decide to run it as a commuter instead of a trail beast, and you can easily swap into road tires vs knobbies as well. With the bike stock you’ll be able to run the trails, and if it doesn’t work out for you, you can still use it for other purposes.

The 6 gets you a slightly better fork and an extra gear in the rear over the 5, and comes in right at your budget.

If you are more serious about trails than flexibility, look for a used gas-shock equipped hardtail. I would recommend a 29” or 27.5” wheel size, with speed going to 29 and slow speed nimbleness going to 27.5. I prefer Shimano equipped drivetrains, they seem to be more durable and hold adjustments better than the SRAM models coming into our shop. If you can find Shimano hydraulic disk brakes as well, stop looking because you found your bike. SRAM and Tektro tend to be more noisy and a bit more funky to bleed/adjust.


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[Trukinjp13]

Thanks for the information everyone. Looks like I need to expand my spending a little bit. Going to hit up a few shops this weekend and see what they have.

[Trukinjp13]

Bike was ordered and should be delivered to performance cycle today. Ended up ordering a fuji nevada 1.1 2018.

Does anyone know of any hydration packs with a ccw pouch? Or a good pack with a decent spot for a pistol?

[theJanitor]

Didn't want to start a new thread, but a HUGE congrats to Kate Courtney. What a ride to become World Champion! Fingers crossed for Aaron Gwin tomorrow

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[Doc_Glock]

Moving this over from my training journal.


You should bump either the MTB or Bikes! thread with some ride or bike pics/details. 😁

I will later. Here is a taste. G26 in Safepacker holster can be briefly glimpsed in video.


https://youtu.be/o-WxIMq8y1c

35082


Nice. Prime?

Banshee Prime. Tires a touch over inflated. I have been on the 29" think since 2004 I think, when tires sucked. I don't ever see downsizing for my height and style of riding. The Prime hit a sweet spot for me when I got it, but it was the Rockshox Pike that really brought the whole package to life. From a hardware side of things, I swapped bikes every 6-12 months until I got the Prime, and I have been on it for around five years. I would prefer a similar bike with shorter chainstays, but it isn't really a deal breaker and the cost of upgrading to the current 12 speed and modern hub spacing isn't worth it given how seldom I ride now. Current bike hardware is simply amazing, and really pricey.

Here is my buddy and the builder of this trail on the same move. He has his tire pressures much more dialed. I can't really describe how steep this is, but it is difficult to walk up and down and there is delicate balance of torque, balance, and traction control going on for the rider.


https://youtu.be/OGHqmQM4tuU

I will attempt to move the discussion over to the MTB thread.

Most of the time I just ride a rigid single speed when I do ride.

[javemtr]

Damn, only yesterday did I realize that you are the same Enel from the MTBR forums who got me hooked on a Jones steel diamond frame with truss fork back in 2013. Well played, sir, well played! Awesome bike, I have not regretted the purchase!

[Trukinjp13]

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Waiting on spring to put some more miles on this thing.


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[Doc_Glock]

Damn, only yesterday did I realize that you are the same Enel from the MTBR forums who got me hooked on a Jones steel diamond frame with truss fork back in 2013. Well played, sir, well played! Awesome bike, I have not regretted the purchase!

Hahaha awesome. I wasted too much of my life on that forum, but it was fun.

Still have the Jones with a spare frame for when I break it and zero desire to change.

[Peally]

I need a bike so I can let my shins rest from running all the time, and I suspect a Trek Marlin 7 or Roscoe or something is in my future since they're localish.

[MD7305]

Rode my new (to me) Yeti SB5 today. I've traditionally ridden 29er XC bikes for the last several years. Years ago I made the jump from 26" wheels to 29" without checking out 27.5". A few months ago I decided I wanted to try out a more trail oriented bike and I'm a Yeti fan boy so I knew it would be an SB4.5, SB5, or SB5.5. I came across a good deal on this SB5 figured I'd give 27.5” a spin. So far so good! I love this thing!!!

P.S.- I had my first experience with the theproscloset.com and it was great. If you want a nice bike, have limited funds, and don't mind buying used check them out! They even accept trades which was very helpful in my case.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190214/4e928e009054cfdf634013437764c2a1.jpg

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[taadski]

I'm envious of you guys with dry ground. We're inundated with the white stuff so I'm relegated to pedaling the fat bike till spring. Turns out pushing those 4.8s uphill is pretty good exercise.


https://i.imgur.com/PvGw8soh.jpg



The sunset was kinda nice on an evening pedal earlier this week.


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[MD7305]

We haven't seen much snow but we've been getting lots of rain. I missed half of my usual route due to waterlogged or flooded trails. That Kona is a versatile rig!

[taadski]

Yeah, it is. Although I didn't really appreciate that when I bought it. I bought it for use predominantly as a fat bike. But I've been tickled riding it in its 29" configuration. Both in plus and in more standard 2.5" configuration.

[cornstalker]

Went for a short spin with my daughter this morning on the city trails. Felt good to ride.

So far this is the best edit I have seen of this ride. I did it once, but it was more surviving than thriving. Epic fun though. I wanted to hit it last year but did not do it. Maybe this year. I will definitely want to be in better shape next time I do it.


https://youtu.be/DB0A8a2HOAY

[Newportl]

monarch crest

On a CO trip last year - 5 days in and I shattered my wrist at Hartman Rocks the day before our Monarch Crest ride - didn't get to do that one but it's still on the list.

[Peally]

Picked up my Trek Roscoe 7 last Thursday. Ready for the snow up here to fuck the fuck off.

[mtnbkr]

Picked up my Trek Roscoe 7 last Thursday. Ready for the snow up here to fuck the fuck off.
Don't be a pussy, ride in the snow.

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Pic is from 2009 when I was still rocking a Surly 1x1 650b. It was still snowing when I took the pic. The plowed/shoveled areas weren't too bad, but I stuck the bike in virgin snow to capture the depth.

I still have the cranks and seatpost from that bike. They're on my current ride.

Chris

[Peally]

Don't be a pussy, ride in the snow.

35988


Pic is from 2009 when I was still rocking a Surly 1x1 650b. It was still snowing when I took the pic. The plowed/shoveled areas weren't too bad, but I stuck the bike in virgin snow to capture the depth.

I still have the cranks and seatpost from that bike. They're on my current ride.

Chris

I do, but its not exactly enjoyable. I want to explore the 50 singletracks we have in the state :)

[mtnbkr]

I do, but its not exactly enjoyable. I want to explore the 50 singletracks we have in the state :)

I'll trade our mud for your snow. Between the just barely over freezing temps, near constant rain and/or snow, and nothing growing yet to suck up the excess moisture, anything that isn't covered in pavement is swampy. I don't dear step foot into our yard because my foot will sink into the muck. I doubt I'll see singletrack for a couple months at least.

Chris

[idahojess]

Picked up my Trek Roscoe 7 last Thursday. Ready for the snow up here to fuck the fuck off.

I could see a new hardtail in my future -- miss not having one. Seems like there's a lot of value in those bikes right now -- the Roscoe looks like a nice bike. We're still buried in snow over here.

Speaking of fun videos to motivate (this is cool on a big screen -- like a tv):



http://youtu.be/m2gwFkCU1Q4

[beenalongtime]

I could see a new hardtail in my future -- miss not having one. Seems like there's a lot of value in those bikes right now -- the Roscoe looks like a nice bike. We're still buried in snow over here.

Speaking of fun videos to motivate (this is cool on a big screen -- like a tv):



http://youtu.be/m2gwFkCU1Q4

That actually looks like it would be fun. I was worried at first, that it was going to start at some long jump ramp (think Eddie the Eagle on a bike).

[jc000]

I'll trade our mud for your snow. Between the just barely over freezing temps, near constant rain and/or snow, and nothing growing yet to suck up the excess moisture, anything that isn't covered in pavement is swampy. I don't dear step foot into our yard because my foot will sink into the muck. I doubt I'll see singletrack for a couple months at least.

Chris

Pretty much didn’t ride off-road all last year due to our horrendous weather.

Told the wife to start thinking about life in AZ.

[mtnbkr]

Pretty much didn’t ride off-road all last year due to our horrendous weather.

Told the wife to start thinking about life in AZ.

I did very little offroad riding last year myself. I'm doing a bit of gravel riding to break the monotony of pavement. Gravel can be sloppy, but not "wheels sinking 3" into gumbo" sloppy.

Chris

[fatdog]

Trek Marlin 6 would be my recommendation. ....With the bike stock you’ll be able to run the trails, and if it doesn’t work out for you, you can still use it for other purposes.
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This thread has been very informative for somebody like me who has been totally out of the bike scene for 20+ years. I just pulled the trigger on the Trek Marlin 6 this morning after consulting the local shop (that it is being delivered to) about sizing it correctly. My total knee replacement happens 4 weeks from today and this is a huge part of my rehab plan.

I have access near my home to a fabulous paved rails to trails project (Chief Ladiga (http://www.silvercometga.com/chief-ladiga-trail/index-ladiga.shtml)) for the beginning of rehab, and I frequent the mountains and off road trails of the Talladega National Forrest (as a devoted 4WD denizen) already, so this version should give the the chance to jump out of the cab in some of those favorite deep woods places more as my ability progresses.

thanks to jeep45238 and the rest of you for your insights!

[jeep45238]

This thread has been very informative for somebody like me who has been totally out of the bike scene for 20+ years. I just pulled the trigger on the Trek Marlin 6 this morning after consulting the local shop (that it is being delivered to) about sizing it correctly. My total knee replacement happens 4 weeks from today and this is a huge part of my rehab plan.

I have access near my home to a fabulous paved rails to trails project (Chief Ladiga (http://www.silvercometga.com/chief-ladiga-trail/index-ladiga.shtml)) for the beginning of rehab, and I frequent the mountains and off road trails of the Talladega National Forrest (as a devoted 4WD denizen) already, so this version should give the the chance to jump out of the cab in some of those favorite deep woods places more as my ability progresses.

thanks to jeep45238 and the rest of you for your insights!

No problem!


And if anybody is interested in a low mile Trek Top Fuel 8 with a droplet post, several pedals, and two sets of tires, let me know! Size 18.5 - just looking to get a different model for this year.

[Coyotesfan97]

I could see a new hardtail in my future -- miss not having one. Seems like there's a lot of value in those bikes right now -- the Roscoe looks like a nice bike. We're still buried in snow over here.

Speaking of fun videos to motivate (this is cool on a big screen -- like a tv):



http://youtu.be/m2gwFkCU1Q4

That looks like a wicked ride especially the crash in the snow bank.

[MGW]

Went for a short spin with my daughter this morning on the city trails. Felt good to ride.

So far this is the best edit I have seen of this ride. I did it once, but it was more surviving than thriving. Epic fun though. I wanted to hit it last year but did not do it. Maybe this year. I will definitely want to be in better shape next time I do it.


https://youtu.be/DB0A8a2HOAY

Great video. I want to move to the mountains in a bad way.

[idahojess]

http://youtu.be/jj0CmnxuTaQ

[cornstalker]

http://youtu.be/jj0CmnxuTaQ


That's great!!

[taadski]

😁 I just sent that video to two buddies yesterday who are both newly encumbered with infants. Lol.

[Doc_Glock]

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https://youtu.be/Npi-NWdKrA0

And after shoving the G26 into bike shorts for the drive home:

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[EMC]

Shred some gnar on our local ancient lake bonneville shoreline trail today. Finally upgraded the old 2002 Rockhopper for a new Rossignol R-duro. Modern Plus size tubeless tires have amazing traction! Dropper post is a big improvement as well. Now I just need to regain enough stamina to take advantage of all this modern traction.

I followed these instructions to buy a bike:

https://youtu.be/yotOZVELSMc

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[jeep45238]

Gorgeous view man.

Now, someone buy my Top Fuel 8 so I can get a Fuel EX 8 - make ya a deal!

[taadski]

New bike day this week. I've been on a waiting list for the matte black Ripmo frame, but they've been backordered for a number of months in my size. The blue color became available so I jumped on it. I'm pretty excited to get to vet a longer travel 29er for my needs.


https://i.imgur.com/Qt7dhe5h.jpg

[EMC]

New bike day this week. I've been on a waiting list for the matte black Ripmo frame, but they've been backordered for a number of months in my size. The blue color became available so I jumped on it. I'm pretty excited to get to vet a longer travel 29er for my needs.


https://i.imgur.com/Qt7dhe5h.jpgDang you must be a large dude being able to wrangle a 29er long travel with some pretty high riser bars. You'll roll over everything.

[taadski]

Dang you must be a large dude being able to wrangle a 29er long travel with some pretty high riser bars. You'll roll over everything.



I’m only 6’2” but generally opt for the smaller more nimble frame size for me (large in this case) and use riser bars and spacers to get stack numbers where I need them. But yeah, I prefer a more upright position than some, with the saddle and the bars at about the same height.

First few rides in, she certainly seems to be a smasher. At least compared to my Ripley. More interestingly though, the bike retains a lot of playfulness and poppy-ness, despite being 160/145.

[jc000]

New bike day this week. I've been on a waiting list for the matte black Ripmo frame, but they've been backordered for a number of months in my size. The blue color became available so I jumped on it. I'm pretty excited to get to vet a longer travel 29er for my needs.


https://i.imgur.com/Qt7dhe5h.jpg

Bought the same damn thing in April. Coming off a steel rigid 29er… holy smokes this thing is like a spaceship. The Ripmo is AMAZING and Ibis has very good CS.

I thought this would be too much bike for me but really finding it very enjoyable and a great complement to my other bike. LOVE it.

[Doc_Glock]

While we are posting new rides. New to me Lenz Behemoth Plus. Wanted to try plus tires and short chainstays. I don’t see ever going back.

[idahojess]

While we are posting new rides. Nice!

I'm a Stumpjumper fanboy... I splurged on this one in May. First newish bike in 12 years, long travel 29er. Very different than the old 2006 26 expert fsr....



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[ChuckSS]

Anyone have a recommendation for a 27.5 hardtail with 1x gearing? Mostly for XC, budget would be ~$1000, maybe $1500.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck

[vaspence]

Anyone have a recommendation for a 27.5 hardtail with 1x gearing? Mostly for XC, budget would be ~$1000, maybe $1500.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck

I've been pretty happy with my 2017 Salsa Timberjack (29er, NX1). I've added a dropper, changed brakes and wheels/tires but rode it stock for a while with no issues. They make it with 27.5 also and it's around $1000 new.

[taadski]

While we are posting new rides. New to me Lenz Behemoth Plus. Wanted to try plus tires and short chainstays. I don’t see ever going back.


Is this a Mikesee inspired project? ;) Looking at your terrain from the riding photos and the short videos you've posted, it doesn't surprise me that you like the Lenz. They seem like rock-crawlers extraordinaire. You've changed your mind a bit re plus tires?

[taadski]

Anyone have a recommendation for a 27.5 hardtail with 1x gearing? Mostly for XC, budget would be ~$1000, maybe $1500.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck


I'd ask you why the 27.5 pigeon hole? There are a bunch of pretty nimble modern bike designs in 29 these days and wouldn't want ya to limit your options. Off hand, in answer to your question, I was gonna say "Fuse, Stache, Chameleon, Big Honzo" as some ideas.


Here's a pretty good article the Outdoor Gear Lab guys did on current hardtails. Lots of good info with some ideas that fit your price range (-ish).


https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/biking/best-hardtail-mountain-bike

[ChuckSS]

I'd ask you why the 27.5 pigeon hole? There are a bunch of pretty nimble modern bike designs in 29 these days and wouldn't want ya to limit your options. Off hand, in answer to your question, I was gonna say "Fuse, Stache, Chameleon, Big Honzo" as some ideas.


Here's a pretty good article the Outdoor Gear Lab guys did on current hardtails. Lots of good info with some ideas that fit your price range (-ish).


https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/biking/best-hardtail-mountain-bike

I had read something stating that 29's might not fit a 5'8 height all that well. I'll certainly look into some if that was just internet physics.

Thanks for the link.

[Doc_Glock]

Is this a Mikesee inspired project? ;) Looking at your terrain from the riding photos and the short videos you've posted, it doesn't surprise me that you like the Lenz. They seem like rock-crawlers extraordinaire. You've changed your mind a bit re plus tires?

It is actually Mikesee's wife's hand me down. I have had quite a few Lenz Bikes over the years, but this is the first I have tried with the 16.75" chainstays.

I have been on a Banshee Prime for the past 6-7 years without much complaint other than it feels immense. But it is immensely capable, especially in technical climbs which is kind of my personal super power. Mike visited 6 months ago and I had a flat when I pulled the Banshee out of the car. He suggested I just try his wife's Plus bike for kicks and I was sold after the first ride. The fun factor of the short stays and large tires was off the charts. So I told him I would buy it when she upgraded as they do about once a year.

The Lenz is 2" shorter in wheelbase than the Prime and for my terrain it kicks ass. Super fun to be able to manual effortlessly across chunk at speed. I am finding the grip mind altering for climbs. I simply am never traction limited. I also find I don't have to be near as precise in my line choices. I just rides over anything. My one concern was the front end would be too light under power in steep climbs, but I have not found that to be the case. I like to stand and climb tech when I can, but occasionally raise the saddle and balance on the nose. In either situation the bike is predictable and not wheelie prone.

This is my first time running without a front Derailleur and I can't say I miss it. The gearing is just tiny enough for my needs.

And yes, I take back any unkind words I have spoken about plus tires. I was flat out wrong. I have had Fat bikes in the past and that was too much tire, however. Too heavy and too fragile.

[taadski]

Good stuff, Doc. Thanks for the run down. I've dabbled pretty extensively with 29 x 3" and like it, but don't have a full squish bike to try them on. Keep us posted on how you like the new ride going forward!

[peterb]

Anyone have a recommendation for a 27.5 hardtail with 1x gearing? Mostly for XC, budget would be ~$1000, maybe $1500.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck

I’d look at Marin. They’ve been getting great reviews for good geometry and value in the lower-priced end of the MTB market. https://www.marinbikes.com

[jc000]

Is this a Mikesee inspired project?

Whoa now there's some cross-forum posting happening there!

[Doc_Glock]

Whoa now there's some cross-forum posting happening there!

A bike thread here goes over a hell of a lot better than a gun thread there...

[Doc_Glock]

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I don’t like to think one can buy skill with a bike any more than with a gun, but this thing is a real game changer for me.

[EMC]

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I don’t like to think one can buy skill with a bike any more than with a gun, but this thing is a real game changer for me.Just need to ride an early 2000's hard tail with V brakes again to see how far bikes have come and how much more capable they are. I get my old one out every so often to remind myself. [emoji1]

[taadski]

Still getting used to the slightly different riding position and getting the suspension dialed to where I like it, but the Ripmo continues to impress. Here are some shots from a couple pre-work rides yesterday and this morning. Check out the large sections of aspen forest that were mowed down during one of this past winter's avalanche cycles.


https://i.imgur.com/ddBkTbbh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/1BdKGsXh.jpg


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https://i.imgur.com/qXKcU8Zh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/sl48x88h.jpg

[MGW]

Watching urban downhill videos stresses me out. Well done video though. There are a couple of crash out takes toward the end.


https://youtu.be/Jk7rliZpuSs

[Doc_Glock]

Watching urban downhill videos stresses me out. Well done video though. There are a couple of crash out takes toward the end.


https://youtu.be/Jk7rliZpuSs

I saw this and his much better (IMO) trials video he posted earlier and my comment to my kids was: He will end up badly injured or killed if he keeps this up for a decade. Huge balls, great riding, but still...


https://youtu.be/ZDbNe3mS0aw

[2xAGM114]

Nice!

I'm a Stumpjumper fanboy... I splurged on this one in May. First newish bike in 12 years, long travel 29er. Very different than the old 2006 26 expert fsr....



40951

Jess, can you say where the picture was taken? I'm near CDA, curious if that trail is near here. Good looking bike.

[Eugene]

https://i.imgur.com/WsfG2kw.jpg

1996 Rockhopper

[peterb]

If anyone’s looking for a new helmet: https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html

There’s no consensus on the best way to test, but these folks are doing good work, and make their methods public.

[Det1397]

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My vintage (1999) Klein Mantra Race Carbon... I bought it brand new in the Fall of '99 in Milford NJ while away with the wife at one of the best Bed and Breakfast locations in PA, the www.bridgetonhouse.com

(And for you mountain bike geeks, FWIW, my Klein is roommates with a 1996 vintage Klein Mantra Race and a 1997 vintage Bontrager Privateer.)

[Doc_Glock]

My vintage (1999) Klein Mantra Race Carbon... I bought it brand new in the Fall of '99 in Milford NJ while away with the wife at one of the best Bed and Breakfast locations in PA, the www.bridgetonhouse.com (http://www.bridgetonhouse.com)

(And for you mountain bike geeks, FWIW, my Klein is roommates with a 1996 vintage Klein Mantra Race and a 1997 vintage Bontrager Privateer.)

Klein's always had the best paint jobs.

[Cookie Monster]

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My vintage (1999) Klein Mantra Race Carbon... I bought it brand new in the Fall of '99 in Milford NJ while away with the wife at one of the best Bed and Breakfast locations in PA, the www.bridgetonhouse.com

(And for you mountain bike geeks, FWIW, my Klein is roommates with a 1996 vintage Klein Mantra Race and a 1997 vintage Bontrager Privateer.)


I got a 1992 rigid fork Bontrager Race Light (#536) sitting my garage, I grew up riding that bike. Six speed freewheel on WTB hubs, thumb shifters set on friction. It's got a mix of newer parts as things broke. I think it is on its 5th rear wheel. Probably last time it went for a ride was 2008.

Been thinking about liquidating everything for a fancy new gravel bike. I remember riding road bikes back in the late 90's with Tom Ritchey all over singletrack and fire roads on the Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz. We typically rode pavement up and dirt down. I haven't gone for a bike ride in a decade or more. It's funny how things change.

My 4 year olds are ripping on their balance bikes, I've gone for a few little rides with them. I thinking getting back into it and well as trying my hand at some mellow backcountry skiing. For the children of course.

[peterb]

Been thinking about liquidating everything for a fancy new gravel bike. I remember riding road bikes back in the late 90's with Tom Ritchey all over singletrack and fire roads on the Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz. We typically rode pavement up and dirt down. I haven't gone for a bike ride in a decade or more. It's funny how things change.

My “gravel bike” for the past few years was a hardtail 29r with fast tires(XC race tires)which makes a big difference. Did dirt-road rides up to 60 miles with no problems. Swapped on a rigid fork for a while to get rid of the fork bob when climbing. Made lots of good memories.

Last spring I bought a barely-used drop-bar gravel bike, and I’m really liking it for the mixed-surface riding around here. Tubeless 700x38s, 46/30 x 11-34 gearing, hydraulic discs. A pure road bike is a bit faster on smooth pavement but this thing is vastly more comfortable when the road surface is less than perfect, and it’s no big deal when pavement turns to dirt. If you think you’ll be doing a fair bit of pavement they make a lot of sense.

The flip side is that mountain bike geometry is changing fast — getting longer and slacker for more confident descending — which means there are a lot of “obsolete” used bikes out there that’d be great for dirt-road exploring and riding with the kids.

[MD7305]

Klein's always had the best paint jobs.
I had a 95 or 96 Klein Pulse II, I loved that bike! Cool colors, lightweight frames, internal routing...Klein was a unique company with some excellent bikes.

[mtnbkr]

I had a 95 or 96 Klein Pulse II, I loved that bike! Cool colors, lightweight frames, internal routing...Klein was a unique company with some excellent bikes.

I had a '97 Pulse. I bought that bike after getting my first real post-college job after more than a decade of lusting after Kleins (starting back when they were called Mountain Klein).

I rode that bike from 1997 till 2008 when I built a Surly 1x1. Just prior to getting the Surly, I had converted the Pulse to a SS/Fixed with a flip/flop hub (fixed gear offroading is more fun than you'd think).

As a SS with a rigid fork, that bike weighed something like 21lbs. It was only 24lbs as a 1x9 with Manitou air-sprung suspension fork (forget which model exactly).

ETA: MD, just noticed you're in TN. I got my start mountain biking in Columbia while in Jr High (this was the mid 80s). I still remember reading Mountain Bike Action at school and seeing the Klein (nee Mountain Klein) articles. Fat tube, fat tire bikes with drop bars doing wheelies through creeks. :D Good times...

ETA2: Pic of the old girl circa 2006 after nearly a decade of ownership...
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Chris

[MD7305]

ETA: MD, just noticed you're in TN. I got my start mountain biking in Columbia while in Jr High (this was the mid 80s). I still remember reading Mountain Bike Action at school and seeing the Klein (nee Mountain Klein) articles. Fat tube, fat tire bikes with drop bars doing wheelies through creeks. :D Good times...

I have family in that area, I usually try to ride at Chickasaw Trace when visiting.

[trailrunner]

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I recently finished a partial upgrade to my 2008 Stumpjumper FSR. Rebuilt front and rear shock, new brakes and rotors, new bottom bracket, new handlebars. I did all the work except for the rear shock, which I had to send out.

I remember the Kleins in the mid-90s. The Mantra was definitely unconventional. What I also remember as being unconventional about Kleins was their bottom bracket. One of my teammates had a Klein with a bad bb, and he said that he could not get a replacement because they were proprietary. Not sure if that was true or not.




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Since we're talking old bikes, this Rockhopper was my first mountain bike, which I bought in 1992. I rode and raced the heck out of that bike, but now it's a frankenbike commuter. This picture was taken a couple of winters ago when I had studded tires on it.

[mtnbkr]

I remember the Kleins in the mid-90s. The Mantra was definitely unconventional. What I also remember as being unconventional about Kleins was their bottom bracket. One of my teammates had a Klein with a bad bb, and he said that he could not get a replacement because they were proprietary. Not sure if that was true or not.
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It depended on the model and timeframe. Klein liked to use proprietary oversized BB shells with pressed in aircraft bearings. But not always. Their highest end bikes might have that, but less expensive models (still talking pre-Trek days) might not. I believe companies made conversion BBs, but I could be misremembering. They also played silly games of that sort with their headsets.

That said, AFAIK, all of the Trek-era bikes had conventional BBs and headsets.

Chris

[trailrunner]

It depended on the model and timeframe. Klein liked to use proprietary oversized BB shells with pressed in aircraft bearings. But not always. Their highest end bikes might have that, but less expensive models (still talking pre-Trek days) might not. I believe companies made conversion BBs, but I could be misremembering. They also played silly games of that sort with their headsets.

That said, AFAIK, all of the Trek-era bikes had conventional BBs and headsets.

Chris

This would have been 1997 when we did the 24 Hours of Canaan (so his bike might've been a year or two old at that point). I'm almost positive that his bike was pre-Trek because I remember talking to him about the non-standard parts. He would not have had a low-end bike. Now that you mention it, I do think it had press-fit bearings and might have been oversized, probably to provide more stiffness.

[MD7305]

It depended on the model and timeframe. Klein liked to use proprietary oversized BB shells with pressed in aircraft bearings. But not always. Their highest end bikes might have that, but less expensive models (still talking pre-Trek days) might not. I believe companies made conversion BBs, but I could be misremembering. They also played silly games of that sort with their headsets.

That said, AFAIK, all of the Trek-era bikes had conventional BBs and headsets.

Chris

My Pulse II had the pressed bottom bracket which was ultimately why I stopped riding it because I couldn't find parts. Even their later model Adriot hardtails had some type of unique, proprietary headset/steerer tube. The later Attitude models had traditional spec bottom brackets and headtubes the best that I recall.

[mtnbkr]

My Pulse II had the pressed bottom bracket which was ultimately why I stopped riding it because I couldn't find parts. Even their later model Adriot hardtails had some type of unique, proprietary headset/steerer tube. The later Attitude models had traditional spec bottom brackets and headtubes the best that I recall.

I just did a quick check and it appears the Pulse II was pre-Trek. Did it have internal or external cable routing?

My memory is foggy, did some of the higher end Klein production stay in Washington for a couple years after Trek buying them out?

BTW, I mistakenly said I had a 97 Pulse. Mine was a 98, I purchased it in 97 right when the 98 models were hitting the showroom floors. Mine was most certainly a Trek version with standard headset/BB and external cable routing.

https://www.kleinspainted.com/ appears to carry all of the proprietary bearings and parts to keep those old frames rolling.

Chris

[Doc_Glock]

I think this is my favorite Rock Bike ever.


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[idahojess]

More good stuff from Danny:


http://youtu.be/fAEBNEscL0c

I'm itching to ride -- loaded up the bike but then a rain storm moved in.

[MD7305]

It's Spring! Any of you folks getting any riding in? With COVID19 it's the only activity I'm able to do.
51079

What kinda hip packs are you guys using? I have a Dakine Hotlap which has pretty decent storage and an H2O bladder but most of my rides require only a small bottle. I've been just stowing a bottle in the pack but it's bulky and access is difficult. That coupled with not having the greatest bottle cage access on my bike leaves me looking for a hip pack designed for bottles. Currently the CamelBak Podium Flow has my interest. My concern is if I can stow a compact sized handgun in it. Any suggestions?

[mtnbkr]

It's Spring! Any of you folks getting any riding in? With COVID19 it's the only activity I'm able to do.

What kinda hip packs are you guys using? I have a Dakine Hotlap which has pretty decent storage and an H2O bladder but most of my rides require only a small bottle. I've been just stowing a bottle in the pack but it's bulky and access is difficult. That coupled with not having the greatest bottle cage access on my bike leaves me looking for a hip pack designed for bottles. Currently the CamelBak Podium Flow has my interest. My concern is if I can stow a compact sized handgun in it. Any suggestions?

I haven't been doing much mountain biking the last couple years. :( No reason why, just haven't. I seem to go through this phase every few years. This time of year is the worst for it because it rains almost once a week so the trails never really dry out properly.

Anyway, I like the looks of that Camelback bag. I have a couple hydration backpacks, but I think that Podium Flow would be good for non-biking activities too. What size gun are you talking about? The hip bag doesn't look like it'll have a lot of space, especially if you put other stuff in it.

I also wonder about support. How stable will it be with a full water bottle, some "stuff", and a gun. Will it drag down? That's more of an issue for folks with "GoneAss Disease", but still a concern.

Chris

[jeep45238]

It's Spring! Any of you folks getting any riding in? With COVID19 it's the only activity I'm able to do.
51079

What kinda hip packs are you guys using? I have a Dakine Hotlap which has pretty decent storage and an H2O bladder but most of my rides require only a small bottle. I've been just stowing a bottle in the pack but it's bulky and access is difficult. That coupled with not having the greatest bottle cage access on my bike leaves me looking for a hip pack designed for bottles. Currently the CamelBak Podium Flow has my interest. My concern is if I can stow a compact sized handgun in it. Any suggestions?

Trails should be dry enough around here to finally go ride sometime this week.

I use a small saddle bag by Topeak and a camelback with a few pockets. I use a J frame, appendix, using a DarkStarGear holster when riding.

[Doc_Glock]

Sound on


https://youtu.be/WnF0vHNbbyQ

[2xAGM114]

In the market for my first 29er FS. Current bike is a 29er hardtail from a big box store that's been modified over the years. I'm 6'3" and I've taco'd factory wheels on my last two bikes due to size and torque. Cross-country and trail, no hard core DH.

Started looking at bikes this week and had serious sticker shock at what's considered normal prices these days. I can't spend $4000 on a MTB.

What brands are the go-to names for good quality without paying for the name? I've looked at Canyon Bikes (mail order), Scott, Trek and Santa Cruz.

[idahojess]

In the market for my first 29er FS. Current bike is a 29er hardtail from a big box store that's been modified over the years. I'm 6'3" and I've taco'd factory wheels on my last two bikes due to size and torque. Cross-country and trail, no hard core DH.

Started looking at bikes this week and had serious sticker shock at what's considered normal prices these days. I can't spend $4000 on a MTB.

What brands are the go-to names for good quality without paying for the name? I've looked at Canyon Bikes (mail order), Scott, Trek and Santa Cruz.

I like Specialized, because I like the FSR system (which isn't patented anymore anyway) but I think Giant has good bang for the buck. Kona seems to have good bikes too. My last three mountain bikes (from 2001 on) have been used or one model year old. I've always figured Santa Cruz bikes are pretty spendy, never even test ridden one.

Stumpys are sort of on sale now. Probably aluminum for the best deal.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en

(Click the sale tab under bikes, the direct link didn't work).

[MD7305]

In the market for my first 29er FS. Current bike is a 29er hardtail from a big box store that's been modified over the years. I'm 6'3" and I've taco'd factory wheels on my last two bikes due to size and torque. Cross-country and trail, no hard core DH.

Started looking at bikes this week and had serious sticker shock at what's considered normal prices these days. I can't spend $4000 on a MTB.

What brands are the go-to names for good quality without paying for the name? I've looked at Canyon Bikes (mail order), Scott, Trek and Santa Cruz.

So I don't have a particular brand or bike to recommend BUT look around on http://theproscloset.com. They sell used bikes but I think all of them now are "certified pre-owned" which means they have gone through them mechanically and, in some cases, provide a guaranteed buy back price. They also offer a 30 day return. They have a huge variety to choose from. I'm not affiliated with them in any way other than a satisfied customer. I have bought 4 bikes from them and every purchase has been a pleasure.
I mention this because bikes seem to depreciate like a new car and there are some great deals on used bikes if you know what you want or what size. I'm all for buying from and supporting local shops but I've streched my money pretty far on the bikes I've bought used. Just my 2 cents, good luck!

[littlejerry]

As a kid I biked allnkver town. In college I biked around campus.

I know nothing about bikes today other than I loved my 21 speed "mountain bike" as a kid. I've been tempted to get into it again and now Covid is pushing me over the edge. I have 12 miles of mtn bike trails about 3 miles from my house.

If I were to get into it from scratch, could I get set up and start riding for under $1k?

[0ddl0t]

If I were to get into it from scratch, could I get set up and start riding for under $1k?

Absolutely. You could easily get a very serviceable used hardtail (equivalent to a Ruger P-series) for 1/5 of that. A new $1k hardtail should be competitive in any local race & last a lifetime, but full suspension bikes at that price point will compromise a bit on components.

[idahojess]

As a kid I biked allnkver town. In college I biked around campus.

I know nothing about bikes today other than I loved my 21 speed "mountain bike" as a kid. I've been tempted to get into it again and now Covid is pushing me over the edge. I have 12 miles of mtn bike trails about 3 miles from my house.

If I were to get into it from scratch, could I get set up and start riding for under $1k?

I think if you stuck to a hardtail and/or used, you can definitely do it.

Here's an example of a new bike that probably has three times the capability (particularly in braking and front suspension) than we had 30 years ago.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Marin-Bobcat-Trail-5-29-Bike-2020

[littlejerry]

I'm in N Georgia. I think a hardtail would be fine for most of what I'd ever want to do. If I get bit by the bug I can upgrade.

So what's a reasonable budget for a used hardtail? I don't think I'll be racing, but who knows.. Just want a used Glock equivalent of hardtails to get my feet wet. And what else do I need beyond a helmet? Any other PPE?

[littlejerry]

I think if you stuck to a hardtail and/or used, you can definitely do it.

Here's an example of a new bike that probably has three times the capability (particularly in braking and front suspension) than we had 30 years ago.

https://www.jensonusa.com/Marin-Bobcat-Trail-5-29-Bike-2020

How about this?

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/alpharetta-specialized-jynx-mountain/7110648461.html

[0ddl0t]

I'm in N Georgia. I think a hardtail would be fine for most of what I'd ever want to do. If I get bit by the bug I can upgrade.

So what's a reasonable budget for a used hardtail?

I don't think I'll be racing, but who knows.. Just want a used Glock equivalent of hardtails to get my feet wet.

https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/trion-haro-v4/7110293483.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/hixson-gary-fisher-paragon/7109851643.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/chattanooga-2008-gary-fisher/7108561588.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/ringgold-nishiki-kinzua-29er/7098607677.html
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/bik/d/marietta-2012-gary-fisher-hifi/7110801336.html
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/asheville-ellsworth-isis/7107139839.html



And what else do I need beyond a helmet? Any other PPE?

Just a bike helmet is fine at first. If you get into it add a few pairs of bike shorts, a pair of gloves, a camelback, tool kit, spare tube, etc. If you become an enthusiast bike shoes & clipless pedals



How about this?

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/alpharetta-specialized-jynx-mountain/7110648461.html

It's okay. It wasn't very high end new, but it looks like it was hardly ever ridden. The components are lower than I prefer - they'll work, but if you put thousands of miles on it and wear out a drivetrain the bike probably won't be worth enough to justify buying a new cassette, chain, & chainrings...

[idahojess]

How about this?

https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/alpharetta-specialized-jynx-mountain/7110648461.html

I'm not sure. (I think that is a women's bike, which, as long as the color doesn't bother you, and it fits, may not be a big deal). Specialized has a good "archive" section of their webpage that if you know the model year it will tell you how it was spec'd out and what it was intended for. Some of their models have bounced between being "mountain" bikes to being more light duty "sport" bikes over the years. Looking at their site it looks like that may be a lighter duty type of bike.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/search?q=jynx%3Arelevance%3Aarchived%3Atrue%3AisBi ke%3Atrue

I think the current "rockhopper" looks like a good hardtail mountain bike, but it may have been a lighter duty bike in the past, for example.

As far as other protective equipment goes, I've always recommended and worn helmet, gloves and glasses. Shooting glasses would be fine -- I generally always wear yellow or orange lenses, rather than dark ones, for being in the woods. When I rode in desert areas, I'd wear darker lenses.

Good luck!

[littlejerry]

I'm not sure. (I think that is a women's bike, which, as long as the color doesn't bother you, and it fits, may not be a big deal). Specialized has a good "archive" section of their webpage that if you know the model year it will tell you how it was spec'd out and what it was intended for. Some of their models have bounced between being "mountain" bikes to being more light duty "sport" bikes over the years. Looking at their site it looks like that may be a lighter duty type of bike.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/search?q=jynx%3Arelevance%3Aarchived%3Atrue%3AisBi ke%3Atrue

I think the current "rockhopper" looks like a good hardtail mountain bike, but it may have been a lighter duty bike in the past, for example.

As far as other protective equipment goes, I've always recommended and worn helmet, gloves and glasses. Shooting glasses would be fine -- I generally always wear yellow or orange lenses, rather than dark ones, for being in the woods. When I rode in desert areas, I'd wear darker lenses.

Good luck!


https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/trion-haro-v4/7110293483.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/hixson-gary-fisher-paragon/7109851643.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/chattanooga-2008-gary-fisher/7108561588.html
https://chattanooga.craigslist.org/bik/d/ringgold-nishiki-kinzua-29er/7098607677.html
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/bik/d/marietta-2012-gary-fisher-hifi/7110801336.html
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/bik/d/asheville-ellsworth-isis/7107139839.html



Just a bike helmet is fine at first. If you get into it add a few pairs of bike shorts, a pair of gloves, a camelback, tool kit, spare tube, etc. If you become an enthusiast bike shoes & clipless pedals




It's okay. It wasn't very high end new, but it looks like it was hardly ever ridden. The components are lower than I prefer - they'll work, but if you put thousands of miles on it and wear out a drivetrain the bike probably won't be worth enough to justify buying a new cassette, chain, & chainrings...

Thanks for the guidance. I'll keep an eye on Craigslist. If I can find a good deal under $500 I'll pull the trigger now and start riding same day. If I'm dropping a full $1k I'll probably take a little more time to get into the weeds on what I might or might not want.

[peterb]

In the market for my first 29er FS. Current bike is a 29er hardtail from a big box store that's been modified over the years. I'm 6'3" and I've taco'd factory wheels on my last two bikes due to size and torque. Cross-country and trail, no hard core DH.

Started looking at bikes this week and had serious sticker shock at what's considered normal prices these days. I can't spend $4000 on a MTB.

What brands are the go-to names for good quality without paying for the name? I've looked at Canyon Bikes (mail order), Scott, Trek and Santa Cruz.

Marin has been getting good reviews for value for their mountain bikes. Don't know specifically about bikes for big guys. https://www.marinbikes.com/

I've had good luck buying bikes on ebay & craigslist.

[Doc_Glock]

Rode bike. Carried Gun. Made video.


https://youtu.be/UnGwe_Ti9Kg

[cornstalker]

Nicely done Doc_Glock
Mad technical skills.

[2xAGM114]

Ended up getting a Canyon Strive 7 CF. Thanks for the inputs.

[wired]

Ended up getting a Canyon Strive 7 CF. Thanks for the inputs.

Grats on your purchase. I have the same and I love it.

[Jakus]

I picked up a demo Megatower back at the end of February a semi local bike shop was ready to let go of.

Terrifyingly fun.
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Luckily I beat the rain home.
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[JodyH]

Picked up a brand new toy today.
Drove a 600 mile 10 hour round trip to buy it because I have cabin fever from all this pandemic/election/2020 dumpster fire bullshit.

2021 Trek Farley 7 Fat Bike in road cone orange.
It's a damn beast of a bike.
Seriously... the 27.5" x 4.5" tires are freakin massive.
I'll grab some pics of it in its natural habitat when I hit the Guadalupe mountains on Monday.
I'm stoked to have a bike that will float across the sand washes.
My Ellsworth Evolution 29er is awesome in every condition except that damn deep sand that we have too much of around here.

:cool:

[randyho]

Klein's always had the best paint jobs.
and LandSharks

[randyho]

More good stuff from Danny:


http://youtu.be/fAEBNEscL0c

I'm itching to ride -- loaded up the bike but then a rain storm moved in.
#inspiring (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=inspiring)

[frank]

Rode bike. Carried Gun. Made video.

Very nice. Is that a Lenz? I've always watched Mike Curiak's videos on those with interest. Where I live, they don't make much sense.

I recently built up a Tallboy4, which is easily my favorite bike to ride. I've had Tallboys since v1. It's a little beefier with a Fox36/Push coil (https://www.amazon.com/Fox-Steel-Shock-Spring-Stroke/dp/B00CS79SBU/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fox+36+coil&qid=1613056299&sr=8-1). Decent climber. The new VPP is a lot more active. I'm still quite a bit faster on the Blur however.

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[Doc_Glock]

Very nice. Is that a Lenz? I've always watched Mike Curiak's videos on those with interest. Where I live, they don't make much sense.


Lenz, yes. I got it second hand from Curiak😲.

[frank]

Curiak😲.

Hah! Small world.

He's built the most durable set of wheels I've owned. Stainless Hope Pro (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Hope+Pro+hub&ref=nb_sb_noss_2) Trials SS Hubs, gen1 Stan's flows. Blue nips and stainless spokes. Never even had to have them trued in 7 years.

On the ol' beater SS.

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[JodyH]

Trek Farley 7 fat bike in the Guadalupe mountains today.
Awesome bike for the rugged desert southwest. It floats through the rock gardens and across the deep sand washes.
Most fun I've had on a mountain bike in years.

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[JodyH]

Wicked little short down and back trail.
Super steep and covered in baseball + sized rocks.
The fat bike pretty much cruised it in comparison to my 29er. But "cruise" is relative, it's still a massive bitch of a ride.
The climb back out was where the fat low pressure rear tire shined, how much traction? ALL the traction.
The only limitation was my will to succeed or die trying.
Fun times.

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[JAD]

Gonna need some GoPro, bro.

[Det1397]

Thanks to www.growlerbikes.com I picked up two new bikes this year! The first was their incredible Nitro Stout Carbon 27.5” fat bike and the other was their Session IPA Gravel bike (in their limited edition Oktoberfest flavor...)
The Nitro Stout chews up and digests the roughest trails and is a boatload of fun to ride. The Oktoberfest is still very new, but on several off-road excursions, I’m more than impressed with its capabilities.
Growler bikes is an outstanding LEO owned company from upstate NY and I can’t recommend them enough! Great guys to deal with and an excellent sales, shipping and CS network.

[taadski]

Been stuck pedaling the hardtail around in the snow for a couple months in order to keep my two wheeled fix taken care of.


https://i.imgur.com/EBskhqKl.jpg




COVID has made the new release timing in the bicycle world a bit whacky. I don't think I've ever had "new bike day" mid-winter before. But I took possession of the next mid travel 29er experiment last week. I've really been wanting to spend some dedicated time on a DELTA link bike for a bit now.



https://i.imgur.com/pqshi4Rl.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/G046clql.jpg

[MD7305]

Pure EVIL! I have never ridden any of Evil's bikes but I'm interested in them. I hope to demo a Following one of these days but one I'm most interested is the Chamois Hagar. It looks like it would be the perfect curly bar bike for a mountain biker.

[rainman]

Been stuck pedaling the hardtail around in the snow for a couple months in order to keep my two wheeled fix taken care of.


https://i.imgur.com/EBskhqKl.jpg




COVID has made the new release timing in the bicycle world a bit whacky. I don't think I've ever had "new bike day" mid-winter before. But I took possession of the next mid travel 29er experiment last week. I've really been wanting to spend some dedicated time on a DELTA link bike for a bit now.



https://i.imgur.com/pqshi4Rl.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/G046clql.jpg

Assume that's the latest version of 'The Following'?

Looking forward to your impressions, as that one is on my list. I've been on custom steel hard tails (29er and a 29+ that I really love) but looking at a big-wheeled 'geriatric bike' (full suspension) since I'm over 60 (but STILL riding and loving mtb).

Please post follow-up on how she rides!


-Rainman

[JodyH]

Grabbed a Surly Krampus SUS for myself and a Trek Roscoe 7 for my son.
Been having a blast riding together on modern old school hardtails.

Going to start racing again as well, the two of us are going to do a two man team 12 hour race in October.
https://ziarides.com/event/wild-west/

:cool: