View Full Version : Beretta 92G with a 92D hammer...DAO??
azerious
10-29-2017, 11:54 PM
Local guy has a 92G that he says is DAO and looks to have a D hammer. Was this some sort of special run? And would I be able to make it normal DA/SA with an Elite hammer?
D hammer doesn't have an SA cocking notch so installing one should render a G model DAO.
azerious
10-30-2017, 12:08 AM
D hammer doesn't have an SA cocking notch so installing one should render a G model DAO.
So to make it DA/SA again all I would need would be my Elite hammer?
Dave J
10-30-2017, 04:13 AM
Might also be missing the sear and sear spring.
Jared
10-30-2017, 05:38 AM
D hammer doesn't have an SA cocking notch so installing one should render a G model DAO.
Not necessarily, I put a D hammer in the 92 compact that I carry and it has a SA notch, so I've still got a DA/SA, just one with a spurless hammer.
OP, if it has the single action sear and sear spring, it more than likely has DA/SA capability, but IIRC, there was a PD that had their 92G models converted to D, which left the decocking lever on the slide, it just no longer had anything to decock.
Screwball
10-30-2017, 06:18 AM
Is it definitely marked G? Can’t see with pictures.
There were DS models, which were DAO with a safety. If it is a G slide, it probably just had the hammer swapped and sear taken out. Not hard to toss those in and have a good G again.
I’ve seen some people bob their F/G hammers, as well.
AdioSS
10-30-2017, 06:26 AM
Not necessarily, I put a D hammer in the 92 compact that I carry and it has a SA notch, so I've still got a DA/SA, just one with a spurless hammer.
I do the same with my NP3 96G Centurion. I swapped in the hammer from my NP3 96D that had the halfcock & SA notches.
https://i.imgur.com/6n6rYcMl.jpg
OlongJohnson
10-30-2017, 08:02 AM
CDNN has complete M9 parts kits for $24.99 right now.
azerious
10-30-2017, 11:43 AM
Is it definitely marked G? Can’t see with pictures.
There were DS models, which were DAO with a safety. If it is a G slide, it probably just had the hammer swapped and sear taken out. Not hard to toss those in and have a good G again.
I’ve seen some people bob their F/G hammers, as well.
Yup 100% G slide. I’ve been wanting to get a 92G for a while and this appears to have a straight dust cover WITH a radius cut backstrap which is my grail configuration. $449 as well
azerious
10-30-2017, 12:07 PM
UPDATE:
ran the serial number....its a 92GD?!?!?
Serial Number: BER143568
Model: SPEC0019C
Product Description: @92GD,TRIJICON,3-15RD,PLASTIC
Approximate Manufacture Date: 1999
Parts Listing: Parts
Owners Manual: Manual
Product Brochure or Literature: Brochure
Choke System: NOT APPLICABLE
Barrel: Call Beretta
Stock:
Exiledviking
10-30-2017, 01:58 PM
UPDATE:
ran the serial number....its a 92GD?!?!?
Serial Number: BER143568
Model: SPEC0019C
Product Description: @92GD,TRIJICON,3-15RD,PLASTIC
Approximate Manufacture Date: 1999
Parts Listing: Parts
Owners Manual: Manual
Product Brochure or Literature: Brochure
Choke System: NOT APPLICABLE
Barrel: Call Beretta
Stock:That appears to be a unique pistol. IIRC, I've read about Beretta 92 FS series pistols for a LE agency that were converted to to DAO with the original slide/safety left alone. So, perhaps Beretta converted these from G series to DAO for a LE agency as well.
If I could find my Beretta book, I could look it up..
azerious
10-30-2017, 02:01 PM
That appears to be a unique pistol. IIRC, I've read about Beretta 92 FS series pistols for a LE agency that were converted to to DAO with the original slide/safety left alone. So, perhaps Beretta converted these from G series to DAO for a LE agency as well.
If I could find my Beretta book, I could look it up..
So do you think they just dropped a D hammer in there and called it good or was there more done? I would want to conver this back to DA/SA as soon as I got it
Exiledviking
10-30-2017, 02:13 PM
So do you think they just dropped a D hammer in there and called it good or was there more done? I would want to conver this back to DA/SA as soon as I got itThe best thing to do, I think, is to see if Mr. Ayoob will chime in on this. It was in his book that I read about these conversions and IIRC they are rare and possibly worth some real money.
azerious
10-30-2017, 03:02 PM
The best thing to do, I think, is to see if Mr. Ayoob will chime in on this. It was in his book that I read about these conversions and IIRC they are rare and possibly worth some real money.
I would hope its just a D hammer and i can swap it out easily to convert back to DA/SA. Otherwise i think i would need a whole new sear and sear spring??
That fact it has a Straight dust cover AND a radius cut backstrap alone makes it rare in my personal quest for a 92G lol.
Jared
10-30-2017, 08:21 PM
It's not that big of a deal to install the sear and sear spring along with the hammer for the conversion back to DA/SA and you likely won't need to do the hammer.
That said, the GD configuration may be somewhat collectible and may be worth more in it's current state than it would be if you changed it.
azerious
10-30-2017, 08:40 PM
It's not that big of a deal to install the sear and sear spring along with the hammer for the conversion back to DA/SA and you likely won't need to do the hammer.
That said, the GD configuration may be somewhat collectible and may be worth more in it's current state than it would be if you changed it.
I can detail strips these all day so that won't be an issue. However i do not have a Sear or sear spring on hand so that would be annoying. Hopefully they just threw a D hammer in w/o single action notch and a "D" Spring and called it good.
AdioSS
11-01-2017, 03:24 AM
Brownells carries those parts. Or you can probably find an NP3 coated sear & pin on Gunbroker or eBay.
Dave J
11-01-2017, 04:44 AM
Does anyone know the background on this model?
I am struggling to understand the reasoning behind a "GD" configuration. If the hammer can't stay cocked, what purpose does a decocking lever serve?
Perhaps some agency wanted the option to easily convert pistols between the "D" and "G" configuration? I could see some logic in assigning a DAO to the lowest common denominator types, especially if they were previously revolver-trained, while the competent shooters earn the option to get a sear installed.
Jared
11-01-2017, 06:07 AM
Does anyone know the background on this model?
I am struggling to understand the reasoning behind a "GD" configuration. If the hammer can't stay cocked, what purpose does a decocking lever serve?
Perhaps some agency wanted the option to easily convert pistols between the "D" and "G" configuration? I could see some logic in assigning a DAO to the lowest common denominator types, especially if they were previously revolver-trained, while the competent shooters earn the option to get a sear installed.
IIRC, in the gun digest Beretta book, Mas stated that a PD that had 92G models decided they wanted them converted to D configuration. Rather than swap them in for new guns, they just had Beretta convert them, which left them with a vestigial decocking lever on the slide. You're absolutely correct that with no SA mode, there's nothing to decock, so there's nothing for the lever to do.
The department in question was Indianapolis PD, a long time ago. They've long since gone to the Glock, and are in the process of switching from G22 to G17M. Don't know if that process is complete yet.
Dave J
11-01-2017, 10:12 AM
Thanks Mas. I remember when IPD fielded 92G’s, but I left town on active duty not long afterwards, and never knew of the D conversion.
Sal Picante
11-01-2017, 10:14 AM
I think you should be able to do it with a hammer and a sear/sear spring.
These are pretty easy parts to fit, lemme know if you need help...
BTW - I just found my "spurless hammer" and tossed it on the carry gun yesterday...
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