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LittleLebowski
10-20-2017, 08:01 AM
Loved this.

Sensei
10-20-2017, 09:46 AM
That is pretty funny, thanks. For the most part, I would say that technology has increased the creature comforts of most professions. I am not sure if soldiering is a great example. Technology advances between the Civil War and WWI / WWII may have given grunts better biscuits and rucks, but it also introduced the machine gun, chemical warfare, flame thrower, etc.

holmes168
10-20-2017, 09:53 AM
Those Civil War guys got nothing on me.
You know how frustrated a guy can get when putting for eagle on Xbox and a single mortar round hits your FOB?

In all seriousness- like Sensei said- creature comforts may be better, but getting shot at still sucks.

LittleLebowski
10-20-2017, 10:05 AM
That is pretty funny, thanks. For the most part, I would say that technology has increased the creature comforts of most professions. I am not sure if soldiering is a great example. Technology advances between the Civil War and WWI / WWII may have given grunts better biscuits and rucks, but it also introduced the machine gun, chemical warfare, flame thrower, etc.

Not to mention the increasing loadout for an grunt.

Mike C
10-20-2017, 12:49 PM
That is pretty funny, thanks. For the most part, I would say that technology has increased the creature comforts of most professions. I am not sure if soldiering is a great example. Technology advances between the Civil War and WWI / WWII may have given grunts better biscuits and rucks, but it also introduced the machine gun, chemical warfare, flame thrower, etc.

Fuck MOPP gear, or CBRN or whatever the hell they call it now. Sitting in the heat of the desert in that shit sucks, I don't care how you slice it. We'll call it even for the better chow and the rehabilitatin'.



Not to mention the increasing loadout for an grunt.

Hell yes this too! I remember the RBA, then they were like hey we got this new light weight armor, let's hang a nut flap off it, neck guard, DAP's (or whatever) and tons of other shit to make it weigh the same as the old shit!

Cypher
10-20-2017, 01:02 PM
That is pretty funny, thanks. For the most part, I would say that technology has increased the creature comforts of most professions. I am not sure if soldiering is a great example. Technology advances between the Civil War and WWI / WWII may have given grunts better biscuits and rucks, but it also introduced the machine gun, chemical warfare, flame thrower, etc.

I got out in 2003. I live in Colorado the biggest improvements I've noticed are in footwear and cold weather gear.

NEPAKevin
10-20-2017, 01:18 PM
Not to disparage anyone's service, but the primary cause of mortality during the Civil War was shitting yourself to death. Just sayin'

Hambo
10-20-2017, 01:24 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah, old geezer. About 200,000 Union soldiers deserted and went home, or re-enlisted under another name and got another bonus before deserting again. Try that shit now.

okie john
10-20-2017, 01:35 PM
I got out in 2003. I live in Colorado the biggest improvements I've noticed are in footwear and cold weather gear.

I got out in 1992. I'd add better night-vision technology, weapons training, and PT to that list.


Okie John

Sensei
10-20-2017, 01:59 PM
I got out in 2003. I live in Colorado the biggest improvements I've noticed are in footwear and cold weather gear.


I got out in 2003. I live in Colorado the biggest improvements I've noticed are in footwear and cold weather gear.

There was a boat load of changes after the Iraq invasion that you missed.

I was enlisted infantry from ‘92-95 (spent half down range with 10Mtn), ROTC cadet from ‘95-98, then AR non-deployable from ‘98-06 (med school and residency), and finally came back as a medical officer in 2006 at which time I was hammer deployed until separating in 2012.

I thought the changes over those 20 years were quite dramatic - particularly the differences between 98 and 06. We went from all M-16A2s with irons to M4s with Aimpoints, ACOGs, and Eotechs. Arriving at Camp Buerhing ahead of my first GWOT deployment in ‘06 was amazing to see the diversity of weapons and optics carried by junior enlisted. Everyone had NOGs by the time I left. Then, there was the body armor and vehicles; we went from HUMVEEs and M35s to 1151s, MRAPs, etc. Moreover, the FOB DFACs, MWRs, and CHUs in Iraq and A-Stan were light years ahead of anything in Haiti or East Africa in the 90s. From a medical perspective, things noticeably improved (TQs, hemostatic resuscitation, damage control surgery, etc.) in just 5-6 years.

Yep, life in the sandbox was good...until I got IED’ed...on my FIRST day in A-Stan. There were mines is Bosnia, but I never worried about IEDs. I wasn’t hurt bad but I never took another convoy on Rt. Bottle - ever.

RevolverRob
10-20-2017, 02:53 PM
You know how frustrated a guy can get when putting for eagle on Xbox and a single mortar round hits your FOB?

Real E-thletes don't let anything rattle them. A single mortar? Come on man. You can do better, at least three or for simultaneous hits before you get out of the zone.

Joe in PNG
10-20-2017, 03:26 PM
Not to disparage anyone's service, but the primary cause of mortality during the Civil War was shitting yourself to death. Just sayin'

Then there was the anesthesia free amputations & surgery, or the frequent gangrene.

Redhat
10-20-2017, 06:05 PM
Sure the Revolutionary War vets would have the same feelings about his generation...it's always that way.

ReverendMeat
10-20-2017, 07:09 PM
Relevant:
21018

Source: https://terminallance.com/2011/10/07/terminal-lance-153-old-corps/

mtnbkr
10-21-2017, 07:57 AM
Relevant:
21018

Source: https://terminallance.com/2011/10/07/terminal-lance-153-old-corps/

He left out Korea, just like everyone else.

#ForgottenWar (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=ForgottenWar)

Chris

Dagga Boy
10-21-2017, 08:28 AM
While now politically incorrect to even mention.......after reading Rebel Yell, life as a Confederate soldier under Stonewall Jackson was unbelievably miserable. I guess it was what made Jackson legendary...the ability to inspire your troops while they are fighting in utterly horrific conditions. Much of that involved leading from the front and enduring with them.

LSP552
10-21-2017, 01:14 PM
I left the Army in 77......and came back as a civilian last month working for the Army Contracting Command as a civilian Contract Specialist. Feels good to be supporting the troops.

I’m starting to see some amazing technology and the research behind it. Boggles my old mind the differences.

No one serving, especially in a combat environment, has it easy and deserves the upmost respect.

Joe in PNG
10-21-2017, 03:26 PM
While now politically incorrect to even mention.......after reading Rebel Yell, life as a Confederate soldier under Stonewall Jackson was unbelievably miserable. I guess it was what made Jackson legendary...the ability to inspire your troops while they are fighting in utterly horrific conditions. Much of that involved leading from the front and enduring with them.

"Either Jackson or a rabbit", as the Rebs would say whenever wild cheering would break out in their ranks.

Kyle Reese
10-21-2017, 05:41 PM
Sure the Revolutionary War vets would have the same feelings about his generation...it's always that way.They'd have a thing or two to say about those whippersnappers who fought the War of 1812, by gum.

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ReverendMeat
10-21-2017, 10:09 PM
He left out Korea, just like everyone else.

#ForgottenWar (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=ForgottenWar)

Chris

Korea isn't forgotten by Marines.