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Odin Bravo One
08-20-2017, 10:42 PM
What light mounts are people using for mounting a handheld light to the mag tube? I'm not looking for bulletproof or Ninja level shit...... just something that will hold a flashlight for a few rounds in the event I feel the urge to throw buckshot at critters in the yard after dark.

Also open to mounts with a Pic rail for mounting a vis laser for use with NODs.

GJM
08-20-2017, 11:57 PM
What light mounts are people using for mounting a handheld light to the mag tube? I'm not looking for bulletproof or Ninja level shit...... just something that will hold a flashlight for a few rounds in the event I feel the urge to throw buckshot at critters in the yard after dark.

Also open to mounts with a Pic rail for mounting a vis laser for use with NODs.


If you use a Nordic extension, they make a clamp that will hold a bit of pic rail for a light.

spinmove_
08-21-2017, 06:32 AM
Also curious. I've had thoughts of picking up a used Mossberg 500 that's Williams has had in their rack for months now on the cheap. Would be a nice base setup for HD.


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Hambo
08-21-2017, 06:41 AM
Unnamed clamp like this http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/flashlights-accessories/flashlight-mounts/4-universal-flashlight-mount-sku867000011-23226-49412.aspx with an old style Surefire, angled down on the left side of the barrel so I can I hit the switch with my thumb. Definitely not ninja or bulletproof, but solid enough to run the mag tube empty.

Dave J
08-21-2017, 07:02 AM
These Laserlyte tri-rail mounts have worked for me as an easy solution for casual use. With blue loctite, it's held tight for at least a few hundred rounds.

Link shows as no longer available from Midway, but somebody somewhere probably has them in stock.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/594799/laserlyte-tri-rail-mount-shotgun-matte

Big Iron
08-21-2017, 04:14 PM
I haven't seen one in person, but this is the one I've been thinking I'll try if I need to put a light on a shotgun.

http://roschworks.com/site/mobile?url=http%3A%2F%2Froschworks.com%2FTM1.php#2 837

DamonL
08-21-2017, 04:25 PM
I am interested in this topic, too. I am trying to decide if it's worth upgrading an old laser products forend light. It is momentary only and does not lock on. The Nordic looks the best so far, but it might depend on the shotgun and magazine tube size to fit correctly. CDM Gear makes mounts, too, but the single screw holding it makes me a little leary.

spinmove_
08-21-2017, 07:03 PM
What about the Elzetta mounts?


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That Guy
08-21-2017, 07:45 PM
What about the Elzetta mounts?

I've got one. I've got a light on one side and the front sling attachment on the other side. It's kind of bulky, but low weight. Finding proper tension to the mounting screws is an issue. If I crank it tight to the point where it doesn't move, it starts to interfere with the followers movement in the magazine tube (Remington brand extension). Any looser, and it starts to slide forward during recoil. That is really annoying and a real problem. Additionally, disassembly of the firearm just got a lot more complicated since I need two different sizes of Allen wrenches to do so, and I need to keep track of an increased number of small parts while the gun is disassembled. Fortunately I do not disassemble my shotgun all that often, so my latter gripe is more of a matter of principle than an actual problem.

Since the Remington magazine extension has a groove in it, what I did to solve the situation is wrap one of those hair band thingies (like a cloth-wrapped rubber band) tightly around the groove. (I tried to find a proper sized silicone o-ring first, but you would not believe how difficult that became.) Now when the mount slides forward during recoil it bumps into the hair band thingy. Thus far that seems to have solved the situation, although I haven't shot a large amount of rounds through the shotgun since coming up with my "fix". (One of these days, I might put a length of shrink tube on the magazine extension as a more permanent fix, but that's dependent on finding big enough diameter shrink tube. Preferably from my garage, so I don't have to buy any more of the stuff. I already have loads of the stuff, just never the right kind of the job at hand...)

DamonL
08-21-2017, 09:01 PM
That's my worry with some of these mounts, will they hold up under recoil? I put a little electrical tape under the magazine clamp on my Remington 870 to protect the finish, but I think it added some friction and I have not had any sliding of the clamp under recoil.

warpedcamshaft
08-21-2017, 09:57 PM
I'd like to ask this question of the old school true shotgun guys (Dagga, Givens, Legendary Lawman Chuck Haggard)... is it better to have the light mounted on the tube/barrel or mounted to the slide/forend on a pump gun.

I have tried both and have an opinion, but I will admit my pump action shotgun knowledge is at it's twilight stages. Maybe I'm just a moron/pussy.

Unobtanium
08-22-2017, 01:13 AM
That's my worry with some of these mounts, will they hold up under recoil? I put a little electrical tape under the magazine clamp on my Remington 870 to protect the finish, but I think it added some friction and I have not had any sliding of the clamp under recoil.

I know people who have had polymer surefire lights walk on 5.56 carbines, I definitely would use tape to add friction as you can't clamp a tube hard at all, especially if you want it to reliably pass shells through it...

NH Shooter
08-23-2017, 05:50 PM
These are excellent - http://www.cdmgear.com/

I use the BMT mount with 3 slot rail (https://www.amazon.com/CDM-Gear-BMT-slot-rail/dp/B004H5CMNW) in combination with a Vltor light mount (http://www.primaryarms.com/vltor-scout-mount-1-inch-sm-1). Both pieces together cost a C-note (about twice as much as the CDM MOD-C mount) but allows fast and tool less removal/swapping of lights. The CDM mounts come with 3M polyurethane grip pads to protect the SG's finish and prevent slip under recoil. I use one layer of electrical tape on the inner bearing surfaces of the Vltor mount to better grip the light.


http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/1187-32.jpg

DamonL
08-23-2017, 08:53 PM
How has the Malkoff flashlight held up to recoil?

Unobtanium
08-23-2017, 08:57 PM
How has the Malkoff flashlight held up to recoil?

I don't own that setup, but I've known Gene for a decade, and how his work is done. They are fully potted. All the wiring and guts are encased in epoxy, and the led soldering is g2g. The only possible issue you could have is a driver or led going poof. That is absolutely unpreventable, and caused not by recoil. It happens usually in the first 2 to 3 battery sets, or never.

NH Shooter
08-24-2017, 05:25 PM
How has the Malkoff flashlight held up to recoil?

I would speculate that Malkoff lights are perhaps the most indestructible available. Their build is even more robust than SF lights.

Odin Bravo One
08-26-2017, 06:16 AM
So I guess I'll try my luck with the CDM stuff. More than I was looking to spend, but whatever the fuck ever. She can file for divorce and get half of the mount I buy.

Now to play the guessing game of "which one do I think will fit my gun?".......

NH Shooter
08-26-2017, 06:41 AM
Now to play the guessing game of "which one do I think will fit my gun?".......

I may have missed it, but what SG are you using? The clamping action of the CDM mount looks like it leaves some leeway in barrel and mag tube diameter. If you need them, I can take some measurements on my 1187 barrel and Choate mag extension, which the mount fits perfectly...

Odin Bravo One
08-26-2017, 10:51 AM
Win SX2 or SX3

NH Shooter
08-26-2017, 01:27 PM
Win SX2 or SX3

Not sure, but here are the critical dimensions from my set up;

Barrel diameter = .885"
Mag diameter = .995"
Gap between top of mag and bottom of barrel = .263"
Barrel to magazine, center-to-center spacing = 1.203"

I'm thinking the last dimension listed above (barrel-to-magazine C-C) is the most critical.

Odin Bravo One
08-26-2017, 03:25 PM
I'll probably just have to wait a bit. All of my gun tools are still packed away, to include calipers and micrometers. Don't think the toddler's Wally Kazam ruler is gonna cut it.

DamonL
10-18-2017, 04:59 PM
So I have the Nordic Comp clamp and will buy the picatinny rail for it. Does anyone have any experience using an offset mount to have the light lower or is the preference for coaxial mount. I am looking at these mounts.

https://www.vltor.com/shop/ar/mounts/sm-o-offset-scout-mount/

https://www.vltor.com/shop/ar/mounts/sm-ei-scout-mount/

NH Shooter
10-18-2017, 05:23 PM
Here's how the light sits with the SM-E/I: Scout Mount (the offset mount doesn't work for me in this application);


http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/1187-32.jpg

DamonL
10-18-2017, 06:38 PM
I remember seeing your picture. I was leaning toward the offset mount to lower the light below the tube. I appreciate your advice.

NH Shooter
10-20-2017, 05:32 AM
I remember seeing your picture. I was leaning toward the offset mount to lower the light below the tube. I appreciate your advice.

I'm currently giving this mount (http://www.mountsplus.com/AR-15_Accessories/AR-15_Scope_Rings/123-LMS-LM.html) a try, which positions the light perfectly (for me) while keeping the WML package compact. Caveats - the light is held too close for the Hound Dog to fit and it's a PITA to remove when disassembly is needed for cleaning;

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/1187-21.jpg


http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/1187-20.jpg

DamonL
10-20-2017, 06:21 AM
I was going to try to combine the light mount with the mag clamp I already have on the shot gun. The problem I will have is the light will be too far forward. I will have to slide my hand forward to operate the light.

I looked at the mount you are showing, to bring the light closer to my hand. I thought the same as you, in addition to not knowing if it will fit a Nordic Comp mag tube. I will probably mount a Surefire P2x Fury on my gun.

Another thought I had on the offset was it may reduce some barrel shadow, but I don't really know.

There are are going to be some trade offs.

DamonL
10-23-2017, 06:56 AM
I found some other light mount options buried in the Beretta 1301 thread.

Link here:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?10177-Beretta-1301-Tactical/page190