Great video of MARSOC undergoing driving and shooting training

[LittleLebowski]

Worth the click.


https://youtu.be/a6-nuuRhOz0

[Kyle Reese]

Thanks for sharing. Lots of Glock 19's in that video.

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[LittleLebowski]

Thanks for sharing. Lots of Glock 19's in that video.


No M45 1911s :cool:

[HCountyGuy]

Saw this a few months back, still entertaining to watch.

[Jeep]

Marines are allowed to drive? I thought the options were amtracks, helicopters or walk.

[AMC]

No M45 1911s :cool:

Talked to a friend in the know who says it was the amount of Low profile stuff they were doing that drove the move to the Glock 19. Seeing that...it makes sense. Hard to beat the 19 in that context.

[SeriousStudent]

No M45 1911s :cool:

That's because it's now MINE!!!! :D

16614

Neat video, by the way.

[LittleLebowski]

Talked to a friend in the know who says it was the amount of Low profile stuff they were doing that drove the move to the Glock 19. Seeing that...it makes sense. Hard to beat the 19 in that context.

Not only that but it was in SOCOM inventory and it was either the G19 or the M45 silliness (sorry, SeriousStudent! :D).

[LittleLebowski]

Training was done by T1G (https://www.t1g.com).

[JSGlock34]

Talked to a friend in the know who says it was the amount of Low profile stuff they were doing that drove the move to the Glock 19. Seeing that...it makes sense. Hard to beat the 19 in that context.

I thought this recruiting video captured the low profile role well.


https://youtu.be/Ho9aKxxdYec

[GardoneVT]

Talked to a friend in the know who says it was the amount of Low profile stuff they were doing that drove the move to the Glock 19. Seeing that...it makes sense. Hard to beat the 19 in that context.

A lightweight 15 round pistol beats a heavy 8 round alternative in virtually every practical context, concealed or otherwise.

[SeriousStudent]

Not only that but it was in SOCOM inventory and it was either the G19 or the M45 silliness (sorry, SeriousStudent! :D).

I only snagged one because: reasons.

I'm glad to see those Marines getting some great training. Very cool.

[AMC]

A lightweight 15 round pistol beats a heavy 8 round alternative in virtually every practical context, concealed or otherwise.

There's lightweight, and then there's lightweight. After 25 years of carrying full sized Berettas or Sig 226's concealed, everything is relative. Over the years, I dabbled about and toyed with different guns off-duty, but always went back to the service pistol, because "one gun" and all. I've owned 3 Glock 19's (and still own a Gen 2), and carried one off duty for a while. Nothing quite like that 19 sweet spot of size, weight, and capacity.

[Mike C]

That is a slick looking training facility.


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[rayrevolver]

That is a slick looking training facility.


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Cool video. I suppose I don't know much about MARSOC or their mission. Time to do some research!

A little thread drift:
Reminds me of the time I was able to shoot USPSA at Blackwater. It was called Academi at the time and it was awesome! They had racetracks for cars, a runway, a fake ship on a lake, and more ranges than you can shake a stick at! When I got through the gates and into the main area I immediately felt like I was in James Bond flick where people were training all around, stuff blowing up, ninjas, hand-to-hand combat... Alas it was a quiet weekend and not much was happening.

I stopped at the hotel for directions and there was a mean looking guy, speaking russian maybe, outside on a cellphone. A tall skinny African guy inside, who was also equally scary. Shooting all day, all over the place, to include 2 shoot houses, and it wore me out. I did a quick search and it looks like USPSA has stopped there or else I would highly recommend shooting a match with those guys.

[LittleLebowski]

I only snagged one because: reasons.

I'm glad to see those Marines getting some great training. Very cool.

Remind me to send you something via PM.

[Robinson]

I only snagged one because: reasons.

I think it's cool. Some of the guns that ended up for sale did come from the Marine Raiders. Regardless of the reasons they transitioned to the G19, the issued M45 is a bit of (brief) history. I think some Marine units might still be using them, though they will probably be phased out completely if they haven't already.

I'm glad MARSOC can use the pistol they want/need.

[texasaggie2005]

My brother took that driving school while working up for a deployment. Said it was the 4th most fun thing he's ever done in the Corps.

[scw2]

My brother took that driving school while working up for a deployment. Said it was the 4th most fun thing he's ever done in the Corps.

the driving class looked amazingly fun. makes me wonder what the top 3 most fun things are... :)

[texasaggie2005]

the driving class looked amazingly fun. makes me wonder what the top 3 most fun things are... :)

I forget the order as we were a bottle of scotch deep into the night, but they were something like; huge C4 ball, a unique heli ride, and a midnight NV ride during training.

[Irelander]

Love seeing this stuff. However, it makes me hate myself for my chosen career path.

More.

https://youtu.be/KnMI3D5tz_k

[GardoneVT]

I thought these guys where HSLD. Where's the gold barrels and slide cuts ?

[SeriousStudent]

Remind me to send you something via PM.

It's the new infraction system, isn't it?

(Hanging my head) I'll go quietly.

[Chuteur]

Training was done by T1G (https://www.t1g.com).

They have their own real estate in the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center where driver training, shooting and other stuff is done.

It is also MARSOC's 10th birthday this year.

[Chuteur]

the driving class looked amazingly fun. makes me wonder what the top 3 most fun things are... :)

Ordinarily and in no particular order: Driving course - MFF/HALO/Freefall - Blowing shit up - specialist shooter training.

One that stands out to me from speaking to anyone who has been there and they rate the long tracking course in a partner nation as their absolute number one unforgetable military course experience.

[LittleLebowski]

They have their own real estate in the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center where driver training, shooting and other stuff is done.

It is also MARSOC's 10th birthday this year.

I spoke to a guy from T1G that was there for the training in the video I posted.

[StraitR]

I found the abundant use of EOTech XPS sights interesting, since most would lead you to believe they'll get you killed in da streetz.

I believe I caught a flash of a Glock rear plastic sight in that video. I thought they went with the factory NS?

Very cool video, thanks for sharing.

[Chuteur]

I spoke to a guy from T1G that was there for the training in the video I posted.

I'm not having a dig, just trying to share. One of my shooting partners is former MARSOC, like all good soldier types: we complain; we exchange training stories; we look at women. Maybe they used T1G for this because they didn't want to film in FLETC - I shall ask. Seems strange that they would use T1G though, they have a more than capable, experienced training team, purpose built facilities and money to spend on their own toys without needing to rent them.

[TGS]

I'm not having a dig, just trying to share. One of my shooting partners is former MARSOC, like all good soldier types: we complain; we exchange training stories; we look at women. Maybe they used T1G for this because they didn't want to film in FLETC - I shall ask. Seems strange that they would use T1G though, they have a more than capable, experienced training team, purpose built facilities and money to spend on their own toys without needing to rent them.

Most American units operating at a high level rarely use 1 single training venue or training cadre. It's not strange at all.

Given that the Raiders aren't even based anywhere near FLETC, I highly doubt that's their only training venue. FLETC is big for a police academy, but still isn't that big. They are already running at capacity+; agencies who actually NEED to send their people to FLETC just to get them on the job are literally fighting to get people in classes because the training areas are maxed out. I'd be hard pressed to believe a story that MARSOC does all their training at FLETC.........of all places.

There's also literally no where on FLETC where they could perform those aerial operations. That place is nowhere near big enough to accommodate such.....they don't even have a range for precision rifle training, let alone some open dirt track to drive around shooting at shit.

What you described sounds more odd the more I think about it.

[blues]

There's also literally no where on FLETC where they could perform those aerial operations. That place is nowhere near big enough to accommodate such.....


Now closed, but years before the Artesia facility was opened we used to use a base on Bureau of Indian Affairs land in Marana, AZ. CIA ran air ops on one side and Customs, BIA Police, and perhaps other agencies would use it as a training facility.

When you arrive you are told that if you hear anyone or anything landing on the roof of your dorm, do not engage. The SEALS would use the facility for HALO jumps and it wasn't unusual for someone to land on the roof.

I was there when one SEAL had a chute failure but failed to or was unable to jettison the main chute before pulling the reserve with fatal consequences. (I was told Marcinko wrote about the incident in one of his books but I've never read them.) This would have been late 1987 or early 1988.

I actually reported the matter to the CIA base commander's office and they told me it was a "wind dummy". I just rolled my eyes and said, okay, you go with that. :rolleyes:

[Irelander]

Talked to a friend in the know who says it was the amount of Low profile stuff they were doing that drove the move to the Glock 19. Seeing that...it makes sense. Hard to beat the 19 in that context.

Are they using Gen3 or Gen4 pistols?

[Chuteur]

Most American units operating at a high level rarely use 1 single training venue or training cadre. It's not strange at all.

Given that the Raiders aren't even based anywhere near FLETC, I highly doubt that's their only training venue. FLETC is big for a police academy, but still isn't that big. They are already running at capacity+; agencies who actually NEED to send their people to FLETC just to get them on the job are literally fighting to get people in classes because the training areas are maxed out. I'd be hard pressed to believe a story that MARSOC does all their training at FLETC.........of all places.

There's also literally no where on FLETC where they could perform those aerial operations. That place is nowhere near big enough to accommodate such.....they don't even have a range for precision rifle training, let alone some open dirt track to drive around shooting at shit.

What you described sounds more odd the more I think about it.

Believe me when I tell you I was amazed when I was told FLETC, but my shooting partner is an experienced marine and then a raider with 7 years under his belt in that role, until an untimely incident. My own amazement stems from having been to Camp Pendleton a few times over the years, seeing the real estate available there and also from what I understand is available at LeJeune and several other semi-abandoned base's/camp's around the USA - even a couple of disused USAF airfields inland from Pendleton. I do know of an agency that stays away from FLETC for its specialist training because of the 'overcrowding'. It may be that since my mate retired they have shifted some of the training to T1G. Lets face it for driver specialist training you need flat road surface and lots of space, our training was conducted on a converted airfield that had road signage and markings dotted around and a specialist skid area then it was out on public roads for speed work - which is allowed in the UK by law for police and specialist driver training. The range equipment in the film is the standard one designed by Bill Rogers which is used in more than one LE/Mil location.

[Drang]

... Lets face it for driver specialist training you need flat road surface and lots of space, our training was conducted on a converted airfield that had road signage and markings dotted around and a specialist skid area then it was out on public roads for speed work ....
We haven't seen that facility on BBC America, have we..?

[Chuteur]

We haven't seen that facility on BBC America, have we..?

Nope, you most certainly have not. Although the Stig may have been there in his real life persona of [in public domain] Ben Collins where he had passed selection and was also a member of the Special Air Service (Reserve).

The UK has some specialist Police Driving Schools, the most famous of which is Hendon in London. Then there are a few converted airfields dotted around some are owned by vehicle testing labs, others like Bruntingthorpe, MIRA near Hinckley, Dunsfold where Top Gear is filmed, and a couple of others with high fences. And, for those who remember the Aston Martin crash in casino Royale, it was filmed at Millbrook on the Alpine section. http://www.millbrook.co.uk/

[John Hearne]

I can't see them doing this stuff at FLETC due to the bureaucratic hurdles you'd have to clear and liability concerns. Groups use contract instructors and contract facilities in order to train in methods that .gov facilities just won't allow.

And advanced driver training is an absolute blast. I'd trade a five day trip to a major school for another full day of PIT training.

[PearTree]

And advanced driver training is an absolute blast. I'd trade a five day trip to a major school for another full day of PIT training.

I second this sentiment. PIT training and advanced driving schools are the most fun I've had on this earth.

[HCountyGuy]

That's because it's now MINE!!!! :D

16614

Neat video, by the way.

Not going to lie, I'm jealous as hell.

I've been pining after one of those M45s for a while now, but my wife would likely use it to kill me for paying what most places want for one.