APEX Glock connector?

[ssb]

This (https://store.apextactical.com/WebDirect/Products/Details/192475) was announced in October 2016 and it's now on the market. Does anybody have any experience with it? I'm mainly interested in whether it provides a rolling break.

Failing that, specific to Gen 4s, any connectors which do that? I'm currently using the dot connector that comes standard with them. I've considered a minus connector as well.

[HopetonBrown]

I've been using the Taran Tactical Innovations connector since the fall of 2013 and it has a nice rolling break.

[ssb]

I've been using the Taran Tactical Innovations connector since the fall of 2013 and it has a nice rolling break.

Are your other components (TRS, striker spring) stock? Do you happen to know the pull weight? And finally, Gen 3 or Gen 4?

[MSparks909]

Are your other components (TRS, striker spring) stock? Do you happen to know the pull weight? And finally, Gen 3 or Gen 4?

Glock 17 Gen 4, TTI Connector and all stock springs.
5-pull average from middle of trigger (where the trigger safety hinges out of trigger): 5lb. 13 oz.
5-pull average from lower 1/3 of trigger (directly on on the trigger safety): 4lb. 13oz.

It's a nice rolling break. I have TTI connectors in each Glock I own. Best connector I've tried, and I've tried a lot.

[pastaslinger]

I also like the TTI connector. It feels a lot like a PPQ in my opinion.
I would probably install them in the future with the springs other than the striker spring.

Don't like the Ghost rocket connector compared to the TTI. The factory oem connectors are okay but the 3.5# isn't as good as the TTI.

The TTI moves the break point back so the reset effectively feels very short.

[MSparks909]

I'd avoid the TTI trigger bar spring. I had issues where it would fail to reset the trigger all the way; the trigger safety wouldn't engage. Swapped the stock trigger bar spring back in and no more issues. There's posts about the TTI trigger bar spring issues on some other forums. I elected to run just the connector. The safety plunger spring didn't make much difference and I'd rather have the stock springs. If you're going to run a lighter striker spring than factory you really should run a lightened striker too. I rarely shoot my Glocks so just the TTI connector is good for me.

[pastaslinger]

I needed to reinstall the spring several times for proper reset. I think it is very sensitive to installation position because before that it would not reset but once it was in it worked fine

[JBP55]

Using a 6# trigger spring in a Gen 4 Glock can possibly cause trigger reset issues.

[secondstoryguy]

While I love the Apex trigger in my S&W and their Glock extractor/plungers are awesome their Glock trigger was a big fat meh to me. It just didn't feel like that much of an improvement over my stock "-" set up.

[dontshakepandas]

I just recently got the Apex trigger and really like it. I'm using it with an Apex plunger, and a TTI plunger spring and TTI connector.

I liked the setup with the stock Glock trigger shoe, but the Apex one definitely​accomplished what I was looking to do. The flat face helps me pull the trigger straight back where the rounded face of the stock trigger made it easier for me to push shots. I also like that I can't feel the trigger safety as much.

No experience with the Apex connector since I'm happy with the TTIs, but I would imagine it's a quality piece.

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[ssb]

I ordered a TTI connector tonight to try out in my practice gun. Thanks for the input, guys.

[PD Sgt.]

While I love the Apex trigger in my S&W and their Glock extractor/plungers are awesome their Glock trigger was a big fat meh to me. It just didn't feel like that much of an improvement over my stock "-" set up.

This has been my experience as well.

[t1tan]

No experience with the Apex or TTI, but very pleased with the rolling break the Ghost Pro 3.3 provides. Consistent pull weight, breaks at the end of the pull, no wall, short reset.

Glock 19 Gen 4
SSVi TYR trigger
Gen 3 trigger bar
Wolff RP striker block spring
Wolff XP trigger spring
Stock Glock striker spring

[JonInWA]

No experience with Apex, Ghost etc aftermarket action components on my Glocks by deliberate choice. The OEM dot connector provides a very nice rolling break on my Gen4 G22; going to a minus connector is not recommended, as it reportedly provides a mushy break.

All of my OEM connectors, when treated with either TW25B or Lucas Red & Tacky #2 to the triggerbar/connector interface areas provide excellent triggerpulls when the gun/parts are broken in-after about 500 rounds, or by dryfire.

Best, Jon

[Leroy Suggs]

No experience with Apex, Ghost etc aftermarket action components on my Glocks by deliberate choice. The OEM dot connector provides a very nice rolling break on my Gen4 G22; going to a minus connector is not recommended, as it reportedly provides a mushy break.

All of my OEM connectors, when treated with either TW25B or Lucas Red & Tacky #2 to the triggerbar/connector interface areas provide excellent triggerpulls when the gun/parts are broken in-after about 500 rounds, or by dryfire.

Best, Jon

I have a minus connector in a G17 gen 4 and its not mushy at all. Crisp in fact. I did install an Overwatch trigger at the same time.

[ssb]

No experience with Apex, Ghost etc aftermarket action components on my Glocks by deliberate choice. The OEM dot connector provides a very nice rolling break on my Gen4 G22; going to a minus connector is not recommended, as it reportedly provides a mushy break.

All of my OEM connectors, when treated with either TW25B or Lucas Red & Tacky #2 to the triggerbar/connector interface areas provide excellent triggerpulls when the gun/parts are broken in-after about 500 rounds, or by dryfire.

Best, Jon

I have two Gen 4 G17s. One with about 19,000 on it, the other with about 4,000 on it (by me at least -- was purchased used but in good condition). The 4K gun actually has a pretty good rolling break. The 19K gun has a break that feels like snapping a pencil in half unless I pull from the very bottom of the trigger. Neither gun has had any mods to the trigger apart from a fresh TRS on the 19K gun. I do periodically put grease on the connectors.

[Beat Trash]

I've been using the Taran Tactical Innovations connector since the fall of 2013 and it has a nice rolling break.

I've also used the Taran Tactical connector in all of my Glock's. Gen4 models. All other internal parts are OEM stock. Very pleased with the result and with the consistency I get form one gun's trigger pull to another.

[ssb]

Received and installed the TTI. Initial impression is that the break is exactly what I was looking for, though I wouldn't mind some additional weight on the takeup. Thanks for the recommendation.

[Sero Sed Serio]

Picked up two Apex connectors and installed them in a G19 gen. 4 and a G26 gen. 4. There's a noticeable improvement in the G26 trigger--it's almost like a short double action pull--a smooth rolling trigger with no distinctive break and no stacking. The G19 has a noticeable break--not sure if it's an improvement over the factory connector or not.

Reset on both pistols strong and distinct, like a typical Glock reset with a firm click.

There does seem to be some increased drag on the slides--if you crack the slides of both guns (as if you were chamber-checking the weapon or pulling the slide just far enough to reset the trigger when dry firing), the guns will usually remain about 1/4" to 1/8" out of battery if you ease the slide forward. Both pistols have only a few hundred rounds on the recoil springs, and would return to battery easily before installation. The extra resistance seems to be right at the beginning of the slide's motion--once you clear the initial hump, the actions cycle as usual.

I'm planning to function test the G26 sometime this week--I'll report my observations under live fire once I do.

[LSP552]

No experience with Apex, Ghost etc aftermarket action components on my Glocks by deliberate choice. The OEM dot connector provides a very nice rolling break on my Gen4 G22; going to a minus connector is not recommended, as it reportedly provides a mushy break.

All of my OEM connectors, when treated with either TW25B or Lucas Red & Tacky #2 to the triggerbar/connector interface areas provide excellent triggerpulls when the gun/parts are broken in-after about 500 rounds, or by dryfire.

Best, Jon

So much is personal preference. I have Glock "-" in every serious Glock I own. I much prefer the smoother break in both the 3rd and 4th gen guns.

I agree that the dot connector in the 4th gen guns feels like an improvement over the stock 3rd gen guns.

[blues]

So much is personal preference. I have Glock "-" in every serious Glock I own. I much prefer the smoother break in both the 3rd and 4th gen guns.

I agree that the dot connector in the 4th gen guns feels like an improvement over the stock 3rd gen guns.

I had a NY trigger in my Gen 2 G19 but when I recently sent the gun in for warranty repair, frame replacement and updated internals it came back with a dot connector in the Gen 3 frame. Is this standard in the Gen 3's or something they upgraded to?

[LSP552]

I had a NY trigger in my Gen 2 G19 but when I recently sent the gun in for warranty repair, frame replacement and updated internals it came back with a dot connector in the Gen 3 frame. Is this standard in the Gen 3's or something they upgraded to?

Good question. I don't know but I'm sure someone here knows the answer. I haven't bought a new gen 3 Glock in a LONG time. All of my new Glocks have been gen 4. I have a 2nd gen 19 and a 3rd gen 17 and 34 that have some sentimental value, but really tend to prefer the 4th gen guns now.

It wouldn't surprise me if Glock consolidated connectors. How does the dot feel in the 3rd gen?

[blues]

Good question. I don't know but I'm sure someone here knows the answer. I haven't bought a new gen 3 Glock in a LONG time. All of my new Glocks have been gen 4. I have a 2nd gen 19 and a 3rd gen 17 and 34 that have some sentimental value, but really tend to prefer the 4th gen guns now.

It wouldn't surprise me if Glock consolidated connectors. How does the dot feel in the 3rd gen?

Huge improvement over the NY trigger setup I had in the 19 previously. (This had been mandated by the agency.)

I mentioned this elsewhere, Ken, but it's worth repeating even though it's a sampling of one...

I have 3 Glocks. A Gen 2 G19, a Gen 2.5 G26 and a Gen 4 G17.

The Gen 4 G17 is the the best shooting Glock I've ever handled. (It's entirely stock but for sights, Gadget and grip plug. Same with the others.)

Prior to my returning the G19 for warranty service, for several years I shot the G19 and the G26 on a par with one another...with the G26 often having higher qual scores.

Once I got the G19 sorted out upon its return from Smyrna, the above is no longer the case. The upgraded to Gen 3 G19, (same slide and barrel but all new frame and internals), is much more accurate, (in my hands), than the G26. This has never been the case prior to the frame change and swap of the innards.

I believe the G19 can give the G17 a run for the money now...where I would not have said the same prior to the warranty work. I love the way this gun performs now.

When I took it out this week to test it with 147gr HSTs I was really impressed with the groups. I did find that I shoot a little lower than my POA with the Trijicon HDs but I'm still getting used to them. (I was only shooting at defensive ranges of 10 to 15 yards on a B-8 at a brisk tempo. Everything in the black but I grouped a bit low.)

[Beat Trash]

I've been using the Tarran Tactical connectors in my gen4 Glocks. My only gen3 Glock left is an early gen3 19, which has an older "-" connector in it.

I bought a new gen4 Glock 26 last year and have left it stock, except for the sights. I detail stripped it, cleaned it and put a slight amount of grease on all the parts that one would polish when doing the $.25 trigger job. After dry firing the crap out of it and putting a few hundred rounds through it, I detail stripped and cleaned it again. After lubing it with a needle oiler to ensure I get the lube in the right places, I'm extremely happy with the results. So much so that I have no intention of putting an aftermarket connector in the gun.

Blues, Glad to hear that the rebuilt Glock 19 is working out for you as well as it appears to. But I'm kind of surprised to hear they put a dot connector in a gen3 frame. This has me curious if they are putting the dot connectors in all new gen 3 frames. If they are, I would assume it's as a cost saving measure, so as to stock just the one part.

Personally, I really like the gen4 G19's over the gen3 G19's. I've been wanting to pick up a gen4 Glock 17 just to mess around with. The only thing stopping me is the potential of a gen5 release. That has peaked my curiosity, so I'll wait a couple of months.

[ssb]

Yesterday I ran the (excellent!!!) HiTS Super Test (http://www.activeresponsetraining.net/hardwire-tactical-super-test-shooting-drill) for the first time with the TTI-equipped gun and posted scores of 278, 282, and 284. I was very pleased with the trigger's roll in live fire.

[blues]

Blues, Glad to hear that the rebuilt Glock 19 is working out for you as well as it appears to. But I'm kind of surprised to hear they put a dot connector in a gen3 frame. This has me curious if they are putting the dot connectors in all new gen 3 frames. If they are, I would assume it's as a cost saving measure, so as to stock just the one part.

I think I must be imagining things. I just checked the relevant page of the invoice of replaced parts and it shows Part 343...so I'm pretty sure I must have misspoken. Worse yet, I don't think my wife handed me a drink until after I posted the misinformation so I've no excuse. :rolleyes: (There's a second page of replaced parts in addition to this page.)

Regardless, the G19 as received back beats the pants off the gun I shipped to Smyrna. (Maybe the barrel's just supported better.)

https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16048&d=1493308067

[Beat Trash]

The important thing is that the gun has been improved enough that you enjoy shooting it more now. I would say that for the cost of shipping, you ended up doing rather well on the deal.

[blues]

The important thing is that the gun has been improved enough that you enjoy shooting it more now. I would say that for the cost of shipping, you ended up doing rather well on the deal.

Amen.

[GJM]

When I took it out this week to test it with 147gr HSTs I was really impressed with the groups. I did find that I shoot a little lower than my POA with the Trijicon HDs but I'm still getting used to them. (I was only shooting at defensive ranges of 10 to 15 yards on a B-8 at a brisk tempo. Everything in the black but I grouped a bit low.)

I would shoot again, carefully, before making any conclusions, for the following reasons:

1) HST 147 typically shoots several inches higher at 25 yards than 115/124.

2) Glock 19 pistols often shoot high, and require a taller front sight.

3) Stock HD sights come with a .215 front, and a .230 is often required to get POA/POI at 25, especially with a 19.

4) (Unrelated, but perhaps interesting, I have it on good authority that the G26 is the most accurate Glock 9mm pistol.)

For all these reasons, I recommend you carefully shoot 147 HST through your G19 at a B8 at 25, and see what you get. I have different Glock pistols with .200, .215, .230 and maybe even .245 front sights, so anything is possible!

[blues]

I would shoot again, carefully, before making any conclusions, for the following reasons...(snip)

Oh, I'll definitely be shooting again, George...that's why I bought a case...but I don't plan on switching sights at the cost of doing all three Glocks. (I've been shooting this gun since 1989 with OEM sights, only the last month or two with HDs and only three or four times since the warranty work done in Smyrna.)

I wasn't taking much time but taking the shots pretty much as soon as i could get the sights back where I wanted them.

Possible that I was pushing the muzzle down a bit in my haste...we shall see. Even so, for the purposes of strictly defensive shooting I was satisfied with the performance given it was the first time out with this round.

I'll try to get out with it this week, weather permitting.

[Sero Sed Serio]

Put the first few rounds through my G26 Gen. 4 with an Apex connector today. The gun is like an ad for Apex, with an Apex flat-faced trigger on a 3rd gen trigger bar, extractor, and safety plunger and spring. I only shot 50 because I was focused on other guns, but I was pleasantly surprised at the difference in trigger. It was almost like a short DAO, with a consistent pull all the way through, and no wall like a typical Glock trigger. Since I am pretty much committed to a DAO-like trigger at this point (SIG DAK), but am keeping the G26 as an NPE-but-still-enough-to-be-serious gun, this is a definite positive for me. Although the connector is marked as a "-", it isn't noticeable lighter than the factory trigger like the factory "-" connector. There was also no mush like the factory "-". Reset was strong and short, like you would expect from a stock Glock trigger. When I shot it, my low/left issues weren't as bad as they typically are with a Glock.

The trigger pull you get does seem to vary from gun to gun, as I had installed an Apex connector in a G19, and the trigger still had a noticeable wall in dry fire. I ended up selling this gun to fund another SIG DAK before I got a chance to shoot it, though.

[ssb]

Minor update on the TTI connectors:

I've installed NY1 trigger springs in both of my Gen 4 G17s after thinking the TTI connectors would be suitable candidates for mimicking the 3.5lb/NY1 Gen 3 combo. As it turns out... both guns do that, though one is a little better in the break than the other (has a minor hitch but otherwise smooth rolling break). Don't have a scale but the weight isn't obnoxious. I'm pleased with them.