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Trukinjp13
04-30-2017, 08:36 PM
Hoping the legislation goes through. Would like them to legalize fixed blade carry. It is a little shady right now. Any decent otf for less then 75$?

Isaac
05-03-2017, 12:42 PM
When is this supposed to happen?


FL knife laws have been amazing. I'll be moving to MI in June.

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 01:19 PM
Okay, I am sorry I thought I put Mi. In the header.


Mi. Sb245

It passed the senate in April. Has pretty good traction.

Totem Polar
05-03-2017, 01:22 PM
Any decent otf for less then 75$?

Not really.

spinmove_
05-03-2017, 01:27 PM
OTF? Sorry, I'm a bit of a blade newbie.


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voodoo_man
05-03-2017, 01:30 PM
OTF? Sorry, I'm a bit of a blade newbie.


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Out the Front.

Push button type blades - like the benchmade infidel.

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 01:30 PM
OTF? Sorry, I'm a bit of a blade newbie.


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Out the front

spinmove_
05-03-2017, 01:40 PM
So you alluded to carrying a fixed blade in MI is illegal. Didn't realize that. Are there limitations on that at all or is it ANY fixed blade cannot be carried?


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Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 01:49 PM
So you alluded to carrying a fixed blade in MI is illegal. Didn't realize that. Are there limitations on that at all or is it ANY fixed blade cannot be carried?


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Okay, I am not a lawyer. But reading through the lines basically you can not carry a fixed blade. During hunting season you can for "hunting" you also can not carry with the intent to harm. You can only carry certain blade length folders also. No boot knives or concealed fixed blade knives.

You will have to read them for your self. But no on fixed blade carry. Hopefully the auto passing will help with other laws.

spinmove_
05-03-2017, 02:19 PM
Okay, I am not a lawyer. But reading through the lines basically you can not carry a fixed blade. During hunting season you can for "hunting" you also can not carry with the intent to harm. You can only carry certain blade length folders also. No boot knives or concealed fixed blade knives.

You will have to read them for your self. But no on fixed blade carry. Hopefully the auto passing will help with other laws.

Wow, lame. Ok, thanks for the heads up.


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MVS
05-03-2017, 05:00 PM
Okay, I am not a lawyer. But reading through the lines basically you can not carry a fixed blade. During hunting season you can for "hunting" you also can not carry with the intent to harm. You can only carry certain blade length folders also. No boot knives or concealed fixed blade knives.

You will have to read them for your self. But no on fixed blade carry. Hopefully the auto passing will help with other laws.

MI knife laws are not only restrictive but not very clear. Take the blade length thing for example. There is no state law regulating the length of blade you can carry, what it really says is, "It is illegal to use any knife with a blade over three inches long against another person with unlawful intent to harm them".

wsr
05-03-2017, 08:17 PM
There's no preemption on knife laws here in MI so unless they get it passed also this would be a useless bill
As it stands now each city can make its own law on knife carry

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 08:57 PM
There's no preemption on knife laws here in MI so unless they get it passed also this would be a useless bill
As it stands now each city can make its own law on knife carry

To repeal the state law against owning, selling or possessing a switchblade knife, “the blade or blades of which can be opened by the flick of a button.” The sponsor of the bill says the ban is outdated and unevenly enforced

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 09:02 PM
MI knife laws are not only restrictive but not very clear. Take the blade length thing for example. There is no state law regulating the length of blade you can carry, what it really says is, "It is illegal to use any knife with a blade over three inches long against another person with unlawful intent to harm them".



True, but I have spoken to state and county cops. They told me it is just safer per law to carry a folder under 3 inches. So I just stayed on the safe side. It is crazy all the loop holes of it per state and municipalities. Most of the municipalities I have seen stay pretty close to state law. It really is a pain in the ass. I have been pulled over in a few different counties and am always carrying a folder and my pistol. Have never had a problem with either. But I also do not conceal carry a knife like rambo. Also I have a perfect record. But my vehicles are usually "excessively loud". Gives them a good reason to pull me over and I do not complain. They do there thing, I do mine. I never end up with a ticket.

wsr
05-03-2017, 09:04 PM
To repeal the state law against owning, selling or possessing a switchblade knife, “the blade or blades of which can be opened by the flick of a button.” The sponsor of the bill says the ban is outdated and unevenly enforced

I understand that, I'm saying it will be useless because cities will still be able to make and enforce whatever knife laws they want...
They should work on preemption first

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 09:29 PM
I understand that, I'm saying it will be useless because cities will still be able to make and enforce whatever knife laws they want...
They should work on preemption first

Well I am excited for this and where I come from and spend pretty much all my time they do not have them. The fact that they are starting to fix stuff they know is crap is a good sign. Same as suppressors, have to start somewhere. Not every town or village has them. I would also treat my knives as I treat my guns and make sure where I am going is safe to carry or not. I am not trying to argue if I am right or if you are. This is just my take on the situation and how it will affect where I live.

wsr
05-03-2017, 09:37 PM
Well I am excited for this and where I come from and spend pretty much all my time they do not have them. The fact that they are starting to fix stuff they know is crap is a good sign. Same as suppressors, have to start somewhere. Not every town or village has them. I would also treat my knives as I treat my guns and make sure where I am going is safe to carry or not. I am not trying to argue if I am right or if you are. This is just my take on the situation and how it will affect where I live.

Not trying to argue either but if they made autos legal here do you really think there wouldn't be a rash of cities passing laws???
I'm all for fixing stuff one step at a time but the steps need to be taken in the right order...preemption makes sense as the first step

Trukinjp13
05-03-2017, 09:47 PM
Not trying to argue either but if they made autos legal here do you really think there wouldn't be a rash of cities passing laws???
I'm all for fixing stuff one step at a time but the steps need to be taken in the right order...preemption makes sense as the first step

Yes this is not perfect nor will it help everyone. But I do not think there will be a lot of cities taking action against this. If you live here you know the libtard cities. I tend to avoid them and refuse to give them money. We only have a handful anyways. Hopefully before it gets through the house someone will figure out a way to clean up some of the language and maybe be able to do like you are saying. We can only hope.

Isaac
08-02-2017, 06:29 PM
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/07/14/switchblade-switcheroo-blades-now-legal/103688182/

Wish they would clarify and or update the other knife laws.