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LittleLebowski
03-20-2017, 10:02 PM
Here is where Luke and GuanoLoco chime in with our #POORFAG (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=POORFAG) hashtag because I "upgraded" to a Dillon 650.

Signed,

#POORFAG (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=POORFAG)

#Dillon650 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Dillon650)

Luke
03-21-2017, 04:11 AM
Congrats dude! You get a case feeder?


Nothing wrong with a 650. Only reason I upgraded was I played a bullet feeder with the wife and then my buddy offered me a good deal on his 1050 and it was just a few hundred more than the bullet feeder. Couldn't resist.


Edit: I also give 3 alms to the #poorfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfag)

GuanoLoco
03-21-2017, 05:12 AM
You've got some first world problems.

I have a spare alm laying around here somewhere but I think I lost it under my pile of 1050 spare parts.

Hambo
03-21-2017, 05:59 AM
LL, to me you're #RICHFAG (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=RICHFAG) because you upgraded to anything. After paying the plumbers, veterinarian, and IRS, I'm #550FOR2017 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=550FOR2017) .

LittleLebowski
03-21-2017, 07:03 AM
Congrats dude! You get a case feeder?


Nothing wrong with a 650. Only reason I upgraded was I played a bullet feeder with the wife and then my buddy offered me a good deal on his 1050 and it was just a few hundred more than the bullet feeder. Couldn't resist.


Edit: I also give 3 alms to the #poorfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfag)

Yup, got a case feeder. Like an idiot, I forgot to have the 9mm conversion parts ready for the glorious arrival of my sicksfitty so I can't load until Wednesday and of course, the #TLGMEMORIAL (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=TLGMEMORIAL) is this weekend.

Luke
03-21-2017, 08:07 AM
My case feeder was .40 and all I ever loaded was 9.

Peally
03-21-2017, 08:17 AM
I have a 650 and don't have a case feed, bullet feed, primer feed, or dog feed. Elitist asshole!

Chance
03-21-2017, 08:47 AM
I would encourage Pistol-Forum to adopt a stance of gender- and orientation-inclusive derogatory terminology, just to keep up with the times. I propose #poorshitbag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorshitbag) , #poorfuckwit (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfuckwit) , #poorasshat (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorasshat) , or perhaps #incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief) .

I think it's important we all be offended equally.

SecondsCount
03-21-2017, 09:39 AM
Congrats LL!

I had a 550 for a lot of years and could not wrap my head around why the 650 was that much better until I got one. It is my favorite Dillon press, I even like it better than the 1050 except the primer swager on the 1050 is the bomb.

JAD
03-21-2017, 09:51 AM
I would encourage Pistol-Forum to adopt a stance of gender- and orientation-inclusive derogatory terminology, just to keep up with the times. I propose #poorshitbag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorshitbag) , #poorfuckwit (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfuckwit) , #poorasshat (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorasshat) , or perhaps #incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief) .

Kitten that.

GuanoLoco
03-21-2017, 08:53 PM
I would encourage Pistol-Forum to adopt a stance of gender- and orientation-inclusive derogatory terminology, just to keep up with the times. I propose #poorshitbag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorshitbag) , #poorfuckwit (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfuckwit) , #poorasshat (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorasshat) , or perhaps #incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief) .

I think it's important we all be offended equally.

Doodie already figured it out. Anyone who loads on anything less than a fully automated 1050 is a peasant.

Sadly, the bar has been raised again. Anyone not reloading on Mark 7 Revolution (http://www.markvii-loading.com/The-Mark-7-Revolution_p_332.html) is also a peasant.

The only good news is that I don't know anyone with a Revolution. Yet.

voodoo_man
03-21-2017, 09:01 PM
And here I thought this was a legit thread about cyber bullying...

#fakenews (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=fakenews) #clickbait (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=clickbait)

hiro
03-21-2017, 09:34 PM
The only good news is that I don't know anyone with a Revolution. Yet.

I guess I should just google this but, what's the legal side of selling ammo? Do you need permits, a license?

LittleLebowski
03-21-2017, 09:46 PM
Doodie already figured it out. Anyone who loads on anything less than a fully automated 1050 is a peasant.

Sadly, the bar has been raised again. Anyone not reloading on Mark 7 Revolution (http://www.markvii-loading.com/The-Mark-7-Revolution_p_332.html) is also a peasant.

The only good news is that I don't know anyone with a Revolution. Yet.

#Peasant (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Peasant)

LittleLebowski
03-21-2017, 09:49 PM
I have a 650 and don't have a case feed, bullet feed, primer feed, or dog feed. Elitist asshole!

LittleLebowski
03-21-2017, 09:57 PM
Doodie already figured it out. Anyone who loads on anything less than a fully automated 1050 is a peasant.

Sadly, the bar has been raised again. Anyone not reloading on Mark 7 Revolution (http://www.markvii-loading.com/The-Mark-7-Revolution_p_332.html) is also a peasant.

The only good news is that I don't know anyone with a Revolution. Yet.

#Pauper (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=Pauper)

Chance
03-22-2017, 09:03 AM
I guess I should just google this but, what's the legal side of selling ammo? Do you need permits, a license?

I don't pretend to understand ATF, but according to this (https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/person-who-reloads-ammunition-required-be-licensed-manufacturer), yes.

LSP552
03-22-2017, 09:17 AM
I feel like I'm being bullied into upgrading from a 550 now....

Matt O
03-22-2017, 09:40 AM
I don't pretend to understand ATF, but according to this (https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/person-who-reloads-ammunition-required-be-licensed-manufacturer), yes.

Not to mention the liability aspect.

LittleLebowski
04-01-2017, 09:32 AM
Having fun figuring this stupid problem out. My case feeder doesn't clear my cabinets mounted overhead. So, I can either cut out part of the cabinet to make it clear, or extend out the bench using melamine sheet, 3/4" plywood sheets, 2x6s, whatever. Yes, I know it's mounted backward in the pic, showing how much room I had with my existing setup flush with the front of the reloading bench.

HALP.

Welder
04-01-2017, 04:00 PM
It looks to me like if you mounted the entire press on it's side it would fit in that space nicely. :p

45dotACP
04-01-2017, 04:28 PM
Damn...So does that make my little red reloading hood lnl #poorerfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorerfag)

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Drang
04-01-2017, 04:50 PM
Yup, got a case feeder. Like an idiot, I forgot to have the 9mm conversion parts ready for the glorious arrival of my sicksfitty so I can't load until Wednesday and of course, the #TLGMEMORIAL (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=TLGMEMORIAL) is this weekend.


Having fun figuring this stupid problem out. My case feeder doesn't clear my cabinets mounted overhead. So, I can either cut out part of the cabinet to make it clear, or extend out the bench using melamine sheet, 3/4" plywood sheets, 2x6s, whatever. Yes, I know it's mounted backward in the pic, showing how much room I had with my existing setup flush with the front of the reloading bench.

HALP.

Clearly, you need a new house.

LittleLebowski
04-01-2017, 08:36 PM
I cut out the cabinet and it worked out well. However, I've performed all of the adjustments Dillon advised me to (called them today, twice) and cannot get the case feeder mechanism to reliably feed brass all of the way into the shellplate. Any suggestions? I have no other options left that I know of other than tearing it down and cleaning everything.

15286

Luke
04-01-2017, 08:38 PM
Are you 100% sure that it's not sticking and pulling the case back in just a hair?

Black block flipped around wrong way? It has two sides.

http://forums.brianenos.com/index.php?/topic/116126-new-xl650-but-case-doesnt-get-pushed-all-the-way-to-the-shell-pla/

Duelist
04-02-2017, 03:37 AM
I would encourage Pistol-Forum to adopt a stance of gender- and orientation-inclusive derogatory terminology, just to keep up with the times. I propose #poorshitbag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorshitbag) , #poorfuckwit (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfuckwit) , #poorasshat (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorasshat) , or perhaps #incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=incomedisadvantagedoxygenthief) .

I think it's important we all be offended equally.

You work in education, don't you. LOL!

<--#incomedisadvantagededucationemployee #runsareddingt7 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=runsareddingt7) #graduatestudentwithnotimetoreloadorbreathe (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=graduatestudentwithnotimetoreloadorbreathe)

Hambo
04-02-2017, 06:55 AM
My case feeder doesn't clear my cabinets mounted overhead.

Now you're part of the elite, or maybe just nouveau riche with your fancy progressive. Oh, to have your first world problems. "Buffy, we simply must tear the house down to fit my new press..."

LittleLebowski
04-02-2017, 08:08 AM
Now you're part of the elite, or maybe just nouveau riche with your fancy progressive. Oh, to have your first world problems. "Buffy, we simply must tear the house down to fit my new press..."

Nah, I was just lucky enough to be going past the GuanoLoco Estate and saw this discarded 650 awaiting trash pick up.

Hambo
04-02-2017, 08:23 AM
Nah, I was just lucky enough to be going past the GuanoLoco Estate and saw this discarded 650 awaiting
trash pick up.

I suppose if you're dumpster diving you can retain the #poorfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfag) .

Oh, and what day is trash day up there?

LittleLebowski
04-02-2017, 09:15 AM
This machine was originally set up for .45. I have the correct case feeder components installed, the case feeder is working great. I've been on the phone with Dillon (twice yesterday) and adjusted cam rod per their instructions with spotty to bad results. I'm at my wit's end with this while waiting to see if Dillon support is open on Sunday (cannot find their hours posted anywhere). I'm getting cases that must be manually nudged all of the way into the shellplate or they will be crushed.

The case insert slide is correctly installed for pistol with the long side of the cam facing the machine. The back of the cam is flush with the cam slide.

The camming pin is adjusted to where it allows the slide to stop its forward movement into the shellplate with the handle pushed all of the way forward.

The station 2 locator tab is properly adjusted.

JM Campbell
04-02-2017, 12:09 PM
#biggerfuckinghammerneeded (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=biggerfuckinghammerneeded)

Seriously, I think you need to walk away, grab a scotch and a cigar to refresh. Tackle the issue later.


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LittleLebowski
04-02-2017, 12:33 PM
#biggerfuckinghammerneeded (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=biggerfuckinghammerneeded)

Seriously, I think you need to walk away, grab a scotch and a cigar to refresh. Tackle the issue later.


I've taken a break today, been busy doing manual labor. I'll call Dillon again this afternoon.

Hambo
04-02-2017, 01:49 PM
Fuck it, dude. Let's go bowling.

LittleLebowski
04-02-2017, 04:05 PM
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I suppose if you're dumpster diving you can retain the #poorfag (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=poorfag) .

Oh, and what day is trash day up there?

Unfortunately, the Lord of the GL manor is onto me :(

dsa
04-02-2017, 07:02 PM
I cut out the cabinet and it worked out well. However, I've performed all of the adjustments Dillon advised me to (called them today, twice) and cannot get the case feeder mechanism to reliably feed brass all of the way into the shellplate. Any suggestions? I have no other options left that I know of other than tearing it down and cleaning everything.


LL, what about the ejector wire (Dillon part #13298), is it all the way down, sitting flush against the shell plate and pushed down as far as it will go into the platform? In the past when I have had problems with cases not going all the way into the shell plate the ejector wire was not pushed all the way down into the hole in the platform.

Welder
04-02-2017, 09:31 PM
LL, I don't know how often you're having the problem, but I had that problem with a batch of Rem brass a couple years back. Every piece of it had a slight twist in the rim which ever so slightly closed up the extractor groove and made the brass not enter the shellplate under spring pressure *if* the orientation was such that the bad part of the rim was forward. I ended up scrapping the whole batch.

Not to say you don't have a machine issue. But I have seen it be a case issue.

GuanoLoco
04-02-2017, 10:14 PM
1530315304

Unfortunately, the Lord of the GL manor is onto me :(

Have you priced dog food lately?

LittleLebowski
04-02-2017, 11:14 PM
I figured it out with the help of lots of manual labor/therapy (see my Big Gay Chainsaw Thread) and crayons and glue (I was starving).

The chute/bin assembly for feeding the completed rounds was bent over to the left and intermittently rubbing the slide and cam assembly.

I'm calling it fixed but damn, the sicksfitty is a picky bitch compared to the good ol' fivefitty. Much more picky about priming and the feeding primers sans case and then ejecting them into the ski ramp is a pain. I would love to easily disable priming and cartridge feed while I dial in the dies.

I'm upgrading my shop lights tomorrow and taking a whack at a longer production run. I cranked out about 150 problem free rounds and I can see already that automating the sicksfitty is not a good idea (fuck crimped brass).

The good news is that this sumbitch is fast. I need to sell some blood and get more toolheads and conversions plus a Mr Bulletfeeder. Once I get the toolheads and conversions, my beloved fivefitty is going to my brother the Marine Scout Sniper and long range shooting instructor.

taadski
04-03-2017, 01:39 AM
I would love to easily disable priming and cartridge feed while I dial in the dies.


If you unscrew the primer cam and pull it off (one hex bolt), it disables the primer forwarding process. Quick and easy. I usually just pull and dump the case feeder feed tube to achieve the latter.


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jeep45238
04-03-2017, 07:46 AM
If you unscrew the primer cam and pull it off (one hex bolt), it disables the primer forwarding process. Quick and easy. I usually just pull and dump the case feeder feed tube to achieve the latter.


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I do the same for the primer feed.

For the case feed, I do this but with a piece of .223 brass. Works like a champ. Also makes it easy as pie to cut off the case feed to the shell plate for finishing a reloading session.


https://youtu.be/AsB8OMOU6O0

jeep45238
04-03-2017, 08:59 AM
Forgot to mention that Inuse a hirnady crimp die, with a hole in the middle. Great little keeper place for the brass. If you aren't using a powder check, the hole by station 3/4 might do the same with .357/.38 brass.


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taadski
04-03-2017, 10:00 AM
I do the same for the primer feed.

For the case feed, I do this but with a piece of .223 brass. Works like a champ. Also makes it easy as pie to cut off the case feed to the shell plate for finishing a reloading session.


https://youtu.be/AsB8OMOU6O0



Slick. Thanks.

jeep45238
04-03-2017, 01:32 PM
Works a lot easier with the ram up. No need to catch a piece of brass, or risk dropping anything in the shell plate/ammo area and making a mess.


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mmc45414
04-03-2017, 05:17 PM
The good news is that this sumbitch is fast. I need to sell some blood and get more toolheads and conversions plus a Mr Bulletfeeder. Once I get the toolheads and conversions, my beloved fivefitty is going to my brother the Marine Scout Sniper and long range shooting instructor.

When I got mine I figured I would probably just leave it setup for 9 and use the 550 for everything else. Then I figured I could at least use it for 5.56 to get sized and primed cases. And well, I just set the thing up for 45 on Saturday.

Will probably always want a 550 for 38/357, 44 and some 40 now and then (I have enough to last a long while) but man, once I made that move it is hard to go back.

jeep45238
04-03-2017, 07:24 PM
When I got mine I figured I would probably just leave it setup for 9 and use the 550 for everything else. Then I figured I could at least use it for 5.56 to get sized and primed cases. And well, I just set the thing up for 45 on Saturday.

I've realized today that's one of my concerns of abandoning the 650 for the 1050. I only do 9mm for now, but am looking at doing .38, or doing .223 prep for profit....yikes the 1050 gets pricey for that.

taadski
04-03-2017, 08:27 PM
#popeopleneedluvtoo (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=popeopleneedluvtoo)



https://youtu.be/pe4PihdJEwg

mmc45414
04-03-2017, 08:50 PM
I only do 9mm for now, but...
Part of my reluctance was that I have/had 550 tool heads set up for 9mm, 40, 45, 5.56, 38, seperate setup for 357, 44 and even 380 (only used once...).

Oh well, I will "never" need to setup the 650 for anything else, and I have some spare tool heads for 308. Maybe even 243. Starting to think this may be an illness...


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GuanoLoco
04-03-2017, 11:19 PM
#popeopleneedluvtoo (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=popeopleneedluvtoo)



https://youtu.be/pe4PihdJEwg

That's a very respectable loading speed. I don't have a 650 but understand that it is much harder to use the 1050 'tie wrap' trick to help stabilize the cases as they advance to minimize bullet topple.

taadski
04-04-2017, 09:34 AM
That's a very respectable loading speed. I don't have a 650 but understand that it is much harder to use the 1050 'tie wrap' trick to help stabilize the cases as they advance to minimize bullet topple.


I had to google around re the zip tie thing. Found Candace's video. I'd not heard of it before. That's something you guys are all using on the 1050s? I'll have to go down to the dungeon and mess around in a little bit.

jeep45238
04-04-2017, 09:43 AM
I had to google around re the zip tie thing. Found Candace's video. I'd not heard of it before. That's something you guys are all using on the 1050s? I'll have to go down to the dungeon and mess around in a little bit.

I cranked out 100 this morning and noticed a bit of case wobble between the powder drop and bullet drop on my 650.

I don't think there's room for a zip tie to the looped, but I'm curious if two can lay there side by side going around the whole tool head, and be held down by the buttons somehow.


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