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Bwr0055
03-19-2017, 09:45 AM
For those who use the 147gr HST, what is your practice round? I know that the AE 147 supposed to replicate it, but are there any other alternatives? I'm finding Speer Lawman 147gr for less $ than the AE at the moment, and would love to hear if it shoots similar in terms of POA/POI and recoil? Thank you.

hufnagel
03-19-2017, 10:03 AM
Your best bet is to pick up various flavors and shoot them to see.

My personal experience was, it was more important to find ammo that was as identical in terms of POA/POI than it was in terms of precise recoil impulse.
You should also consider that not every 147gr practice ammo is going to shoot as well as HST, through the same gun. My Beretta 92G taught me that. :D

Kyle Reese
03-19-2017, 11:01 AM
I just budget for and shoot 147 grain HST on a regular basis.

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Norville
03-19-2017, 01:41 PM
American Eagle or Lawman 147 work well for me. Whichever is cheaper or in stock is the deciding factor as both have same POI for me.

ST911
03-19-2017, 03:29 PM
Speer Lawman 147 TMJ, 53620
Federal AE 147 FMJ, AE9FP

Of the two, the Speer is the better pairing for the standard pressure 147 HST. The AE is a softer shooter.

Flintsky
03-19-2017, 04:08 PM
Speer Lawman 147gr TMJ is a pretty close match.

Joe in PNG
03-19-2017, 04:21 PM
The Lawman 147 also makes nice, viable holes in the paper.

Robinson
03-19-2017, 04:33 PM
I always use AE9FP. Shoots just like 147gr HST (for me) and is readily available at good prices. They are both loaded to around 1000 fps I believe.

Norville
03-19-2017, 05:06 PM
I always use AE9FP. Shoots just like 147gr HST (for me) and is readily available at good prices. They are both loaded to around 1000 fps I believe.

I shoot the AE147 in USPSA, chronographed at 970 out of my G34 in 2 different matches last year. I won high Minor power factor per the chrono RO.

DocGKR
03-19-2017, 05:08 PM
As noted, both Speer Lawman 147 TMJ (53620) and Federal AE 147 FMJ (AE9FP) work well.

LtDave
03-20-2017, 08:39 PM
I've good results accuracy wise with several different Winchester 147 grain FMJ loads including the subsonic 9mmSU2 and the 3 gun X9TG and Training 9mmT. They are worth a look. Remington UMC 147 FMJ has also done well for me, but more of my guns like the Winchester better than the Remington. Again, you have to test them to see what works best and where the POA/POI is.

camsdaddy
03-23-2017, 10:22 PM
I load 147 over 3.5 TG and find my Glock 43 loves it just like it does the HSTs

Nephrology
03-24-2017, 03:12 PM
Speer Lawman 147gr TMJ is a pretty close match.

It's also very well priced at SGammo (http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/1000-round-case-9mm-luger-speer-lawman-147-grain-tmj-subsonic-ammo-53620).

Bwr0055
09-21-2017, 04:51 PM
Thank you. Has anyone used Remington UMC 147gr (23732) or Browning BPT 147gr (B191800091) for comparison? My local shop only has these two at the moment, so I'm wondering if they feel similar.

LtDave
09-21-2017, 08:39 PM
I haven’t shot the Remington stuff back to back with the HST, but the Remington has a published velocity only 10 fps less than HST so it should be close in recoil. Never shot the Browning ammo.

M2CattleCo
09-29-2017, 10:05 AM
I've always used AE147 as it's identical to HST147 as far as I can tell.

Lately I've been using AE124 since I got a bunch of cases for ridiculous cheap.

I think it's working out. The 124 is noticeable more snappy than the 147. Now when I shoot 147s through my 43 it feels softer than normal and I shoot it really well.

JBP55
09-29-2017, 11:00 AM
The velocity and energy of 147gr HST and AE is 1,000 and 326. The LM is 985 and 317 and all 3 have very similar recoil.