Help me design a holster for suppressed pistol use!

[ldunnmobile]

Ok, let's use our collective wisdom to sort out something capable. To the best of my knowledge, there is nothing out there that is capable of meeting our (my) needs. (There is a KT Mech and a Melder Practical holster that are probably the closest but have weaknesses).

Goal: Create a modular kydex based holster for suppressed and light bearing pistols that will (relatively) protect the components from the environment (dust/debris) while still being fast to deploy and comfortable to wear in the field.

Target Audience: Night hunters who desire a quiet (subsonic) secondary weapon. (ME)

Problems we face:
1. Holstering/drawing a suppressed pistol is very awkward.
2. Adequate retention. Scaleable depending on situation.
3. Protect suppressor without melting during range time/higher volume fire.
3. Modularity (Not a huge concern for me personally but if someone started building these things (cough* Tony cough*) it would seemingly help sales if it could be applied to different uses considering the likely high cost of this holster)

My personal pistol:
1.HK USP 45 Tactical
2.RMR slide mounted
3.Surefire X400V-B-IRC
4.Surefire DG Switch
5.Rugged Obsidian Suppressor (Full Length)

Holster features/thoughts:

1.Open front to allow easy swing up drawing/holstering with suppressor.
2.Retention by tension but also buttoned strap across the front for added retention when needed.
3.Holster also covers suppressor to protect from dirt/debris. Concern for melting Kydex from warm suppressor may mean leaving 1/8 or 1/4 inch clearance around suppressor to allow breathing/venting.
4.Removable cover over front (Cordura/Nylon?) that extends length of pistol and suppressor to protect from dirt/debris. Attach with buttons? (Could interchange with single strap in #2 for secondary retention)
5.Modular height: Standard belt height attachment and drop leg with thigh strap.
6.Water drain hole.

The KT Mech and Meldor Practical holsters. Getting there but not quite.
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[orionz06]

Crye Gun Clip?


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[TGS]

There's a reason that cross-draw was the norm for long pistols carried back in the day, particularly by cavalry.

[nalesq]

Maybe a shoulder or chest holster design would also work?

Whatever method is devised, another feature I would like with a suppressed pistol holster is the ability to sit down comfortably while wearing it.

[PNWTO]

Have you seen the "Blackside" from KMFJ? (https://kmfjmil.com/products/the-blackside-suppressed-pistol-holster) I know they are sending them to Units that have such a need. Looks interesting, they also have a OWB holster that can set up with the tiny Gemtech can, I think it is The Sparrow?

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[nalesq]

Have you seen the "Blackside" from KMFJ? (https://kmfjmil.com/products/the-blackside-suppressed-pistol-holster) I know they are sending them to Units that have such a need. Looks interesting, they also have a OWB holster that can set up with the tiny Gemtech can, I think it is The Sparrow?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMFU6ANckMk

1. For something that is not custom leather, that is a very expensive holster;

2. It doesn't look like you'd be able to sit comfortably while wearing it.

[PNWTO]

1. For something that is not custom leather, that is a very expensive holster;

2. It doesn't look like you'd be able to sit comfortably while wearing it.

Can't comment on the first point, I would be inclined to agree but if it meets one's needs...

As for the second point, with the G-Code disk you could easily remove while driving or stationary I suppose. I would venture to guess that a readily accessible suppressed pistol is exclusive to sitting. Maybe a tanker holster has some potential, but that would really depend on OAL.

[Gadfly]

My buddy/former co worker owns KMFJ. Good stuff, made by a former SOF type. I have not used his suppressor holsters, but I have two belt holsters he made that are good to go. I imagine he makes something close to what you want, or he can get it made.

[Caballoflaco]

Would a suppressor cover and some 3m super 33 electrical tape over the muzzle meet your needs for suppressor protection and allow more flexibility in the design of the actual holster? Or just tape on the muzzle if you're worried about the cover working loose or getting snagged on brush?

[SeriousStudent]

Crye Gun Clip?


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Exactly my first thought.

ldunnmobile - if you want to borrow one, I have a Crye Gun Clip you can try out for a bit.

[El Cid]

I have an AAC Ti-Rant S which is on the shorter side of pistol cans. I don't see a way to sit comfortably while it's holstered other than a cross draw chest rig. I've considered the KT-Mech just to try at a local steel match, but other wants keep pushing it down the list.

I also don't see how it's very practical for any level of sustained shooting given the risk of burns. Some kind of padded fire proof pouch shaped like a tanker holster would be my thought.

[ldunnmobile]

Exactly my first thought.

ldunnmobile - if you want to borrow one, I have a Crye Gun Clip you can try out for a bit.

GENEROUS offer! I know it wouldn't be the end result of what I want as far as protection from environment so I will pass, though it might be useful to experiment with in what positions are comfortable while moving, sitting etc.... hmmm

[ldunnmobile]

I have an AAC Ti-Rant S which is on the shorter side of pistol cans. I don't see a way to sit comfortably while it's holstered other than a cross draw chest rig. I've considered the KT-Mech just to try at a local steel match, but other wants keep pushing it down the list.

I also don't see how it's very practical for any level of sustained shooting given the risk of burns. Some kind of padded fire proof pouch shaped like a tanker holster would be my thought.

Good point about burns. For me personally I probably wouldn't have too many long strings of fire but surely an optional heat shield could be used. Probably from the material suppressor covers are made from.

[ldunnmobile]

Maybe a shoulder or chest holster design would also work?

Whatever method is devised, another feature I would like with a suppressed pistol holster is the ability to sit down comfortably while wearing it.

Yep. Have to be able to sit comfortably on the ground, kneel...etc.

The cross draw is a great suggestion and something I've not considered.

[ldunnmobile]

Would a suppressor cover and some 3m super 33 electrical tape over the muzzle meet your needs for suppressor protection and allow more flexibility in the design of the actual holster? Or just tape on the muzzle if you're worried about the cover working loose or getting snagged on brush?

Yep yep... something like that could work. Thinking out loud... maybe a suppressor cover with separate end cap tethered to something so if you draw it pops off

[FNFAN]

If I were trying to carry a handgun that long I'd probably use something like this swiveling shoulder holster:
https://img0.etsystatic.com/027/0/6994007/il_570xN.614658364_drsy.jpg

[nalesq]

Yeah, to accommodate the length while sitting, something like the above shoulder rig, or perhaps something like this:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170307/9c49b23ce583c8e84a1f9d51498c7bef.jpg


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[Rich@CCC]

Han shot first!

[Wondering Beard]

But it wasn't silent.