Concealed Carry Pants

[Qaz98]

I've been looking for a casual pants, not jeans, that allows for wear when not carrying but also has the waist flexibility for a single or double stack. I have a pair of Magpuls flex pants, which are nice, but the button is about to pop when I carry. The next size up is too big if I'm not carrying.

5.11 seems to tactical for me. Any brands people have come across that they like?


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[TAZ]

I have a number of cheap Sams slacks. Savane or something brand name. $16 a pair and they hold up OK. Elastic waistband accommodates a G19 comfortably. Also had good luck with LAPG brand pants. Again cheap although they did change their cut and the last batch are kind of nut huggy on me, but then I'm carrying an extra 20# easy.

[RJ]

I've been wearing these about 2 years, for everyday wear.

Really like them at the price point:

BC Clothing Men's Convertible Cargo Pant with Stretch, Relaxed Fit (M x 32, Khaki)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYB5UDW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_LQBOybF3992SK

[orionz06]

How do regular pants not work for you?

[octagon]

I wear mostly jeans but regardless if I wear jeans or casual pants I have had good luck with Duluth Trading Post stuff. Their ballroom jeans diamond crotch gusset eliminates cut/binding in that area and is offered on other pants. Firehose or better yet stretch firehose material is near indestructible and very flexible. They wear like steel and come in regular style with no extra pockets or all kinds of extra pockets,loops etc.. They can be a bit pricier than others but the long wear and comfort still make it a value in my book.

[Gray222]

5.11 apex pants are fantastic. If they look too tacticool for you, then you should get yourself some relax fit jeans.

[martin_j001]

I'm a big fan of Duluth's Flex stuff too. The added stretch of them makes them very comfortable to wear and doesn't restrict movement. I've also stumbled onto Urban Star jeans from Costco. They also have 2% spandex (same as Duluth Flex, IIRC), but cost only $15 a pair. No gussets like Duluth, but still plenty of stretch to allow comfortable movement.

[SLG]

I'm a big fan of Duluth's Flex stuff too. The added stretch of them makes them very comfortable to wear and doesn't restrict movement. I've also stumbled onto Urban Star jeans from Costco. They also have 2% spandex (same as Duluth Flex, IIRC), but cost only $15 a pair. No gussets like Duluth, but still plenty of stretch to allow comfortable movement.


I wear both of these options more than I would like to admit.

[PNWTO]

I have really come to like the Duluth Flex stuff. Lightweight and doesn't hinder mobility at all and depending on what you get also looks good at the office and the hasty meeting.

[ubervic]

I've never had to worry about selecting sized-up or stretch-waist pants since I began carrying AIWB. Unless the pants are fundamentally too tight for me while NOT carrying, I have never had a size/fit issue while carrying.

That said, cotton pants which include a percentage of Lycra are probably a decent solution for those who require sizing up for IWB. But the best will be pants with stretch panels in the waist. My current favorite for the stretch-panel pants would be the LAPG Urban Recon pants---I remove the stitched-on LAPG logo from the right cargo pocket and they end up looking fairly generic and not 'tactical.' They are cotton and shrink a bit, so consider buying up a size in length and maybe even waist. They're very comfortable and very inexpensive, at only about $23 per pair.

[Nephrology]

I've never had a problem with Levis...

I do have some of the Vertx casual pants (basically just slacks, no cargo pockets) that I like. Elastic waistband that is a little higher rise than most jeans. They're nice, but not necessary. belt and holster have always been more important IMO

[Qaz98]

Thanks for all the posts. I have never heard of the brands mentioned here, and I'm glad I asked. I went with: http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/mens/mens-pants/mens-casual-pants/95113.aspx?processor=content Exactly what I'm looking for. Although, I also like the Vertx pants and some of the other Duluth options, too. Thanks again.

For the most part, I'm fine with my jeans. I'm just looking for something more formal, so I can go to a nice restaurant or in a more business setting, and carry - esp my double stack options. I appreciate all the input.

[Warped Mindless]

Levis makes some nice jeans now with so much spandex built into them to make them very flexable. I wear slim fit (not skinny) and I could do crossfit in them if I wanted too. Loosk the same as regular denim jeans.

As far as tactical pants go, I like 5.11s. The average joe cant tell the difference between cargo and tactical pants so I dont worry about it.

[Qaz98]

As far as tactical pants go, I like 5.11s. The average joe cant tell the difference between cargo and tactical pants so I dont worry about it.

Agreed. I like the Apex 5.11 and may order a pair. My wife, however, has a discerning and discriminating eye for tacticool pants.

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[blues]

Agreed. I like the Apex 5.11 and may order a pair. My wife, however, has a discerning and discriminating eye for tacticool pants.

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My wife likes my 5.11 pants and shorts. Go figure. (She, however is a bit more upscale and trendy. Whaddya want from a former model?)

[karmapolice]

I didn't pay for my pants that are my new favorites but I would buy some (full disclosure). Work bought me several pairs of the 5.11's new styke pant and I love them. They actually show off my no ass at all and have useful pockets etc.

I wear them off duty and blend fairly well for a six foot six bearded guy in a larue hat lol. In fact recently at my favorite coffee spot one of the employees stated I must have been undercover on a causal Friday as he didn't even spot or recognize me at first and I was wearing a button up short sleeve and the styke pants. (Friday I get to carry appendix and an un-tucked shirt instead of tucked in polo).

The pants have goof flex, proper length, the rear pockets don't give you diaper look like the traditional climbing pant cut (Royal Robbins made the first 5.11 pants its a climbing grade not tactical lol). I have some khaki color and the patriot brown ones, I want to buy some in tundra and some other colors. Breach bang clear did a good review on them - http://www.breachbangclear.com/womens-5-11-stryke-pants/

[PearTree]

Don't forget about hiking pants, such as the outdoor research ferrosi or zana prion. They don't throw the tactical vibe and in my opinion are as durable if not more so than 5.11.

[karmapolice]

^^^^^ Yes my pants I bought are parna, khul, marmot, and are great. I just really like having cargo pockets because of the amount of crap I carry as far as gloves for medical stuff, evidence, tq, other medical stuff, keys, and only thing I put in my back pocket is a glasses cleaning cloth.

[PearTree]

^^^^^ Yes my pants I bought are parna, khul, marmot, and are great. I just really like having cargo pockets because of the amount of crap I carry as far as gloves for medical stuff, evidence, tq, other medical stuff, keys, and only thing I put in my back pocket is a glasses cleaning cloth.
The outdoor research ferrosi has zipper pockets in the thigh fyi.

[vcdgrips]

I too am a big fan of outdoor/hiking/climbing oriented pants and brands (Prana, Kuhl, First Ascent, Costco homages re the same etc.). I would caution that some of the cargo/slash pockets on these types of garments (and their zippers) do not hold up when filled with handfuls of ammunition over the course of a long training day. The weight can pull the zipper out of track. YMMV Greatly.

[blues]

The pants have goof flex, proper length, the rear pockets don't give you diaper look like the traditional climbing pant cut (Royal Robbins made the first 5.11 pants its a climbing grade not tactical lol). I have some khaki color and the patriot brown ones, I want to buy some in tundra and some other colors. Breach bang clear did a good review on them - http://www.breachbangclear.com/womens-5-11-stryke-pants/

I still have two pair of the original Royal Robbins pants. (He was one of my early climbing heroes. My first climbing shoes were the RR blue suede jobbers.)

I was so disappointed when I thought I couldn't find them anymore until I realized that he had sold the line to what is now 5.11

I'll have to check out the Stryke pants one of these days.

[FOG]

Duluth flex and Kuhl are my favorites

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[StrikerFire]

Dress(ier) pants: http://www.ccwbreakaways.com/

[Gray222]

RR is where it's at.

[Qaz98]

5.11 apex pants are fantastic. If they look too tacticool for you, then you should get yourself some relax fit jeans.
When sizing the Apex pants, do you get your regular waist size, and the flex expands enough to accommodate a double stack?

Tried out the Duluth middleman, and the waist expands 3 inches, but the belt loops are to small to fit my EDC belt when it it's buckled. Shame.

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[Gray222]

When sizing the Apex pants, do you get your regular waist size, and the flex expands enough to accommodate a double stack?

Tried out the Duluth middleman, and the waist expands 3 inches, but the belt loops are to small to fit my EDC belt when it it's buckled. Shame.

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I buy all pants the same size, plus two to three depending on the cut to accommodate aiwb and blades. The stretch is for movement. So you don't get restrictions or binds when doing stuff. Pants shouldnt be skin tight.

Duluth firehouse pants are fantastic. Just really tough and feel great.


The royal Robbins traveler are pretty good too.

[MGW]

I have several pairs of the VertX casual no cargo pocket pants. I wear them for work everyday. I really like them a lot. Pockets are perfect. Fit through the legs is perfect. I like the little bit of flex that they have.

My only issue with them is the waist fits a size smaller than they should. It makes IWB carry impossible. I figured it out way to late.

So if anyone wants a great deal on 34/34's that fit like 32/34's shoot me a PM.

[Rex G]

I like the cut and style of VertX pants, and the strength of the stitching, but not necessarily the longevity of the fabrics. My two most-recently-purchased VertX pants do seem to be sturdier, especially compared to the earlier all-cotton pants.

[Qaz98]

I like the cut and style of VertX pants, and the strength of the stitching, but not necessarily the longevity of the fabrics. My two most-recently-purchased VertX pants do seem to be sturdier, especially compared to the earlier all-cotton pants.
Sale on their website. 20%off


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[Gray222]

The issue with vertx is that everyone and their mother knows what they look like, even the hood rats. It screams cop. So do the 5.11 apex, but they are awesome to wear....It's really a love hate thing...

[jmcrawf1]

I know the OP didn't ask for jeans, but hear me out. I found some Levi's relaxed fit "stretch" jeans and they are life changing for the gun toting American. I've bought three pair and they are more comfortable than any other pants i've found. As an added plus, I have found jeans to blend in with the crowds better than others.

[lightning fast]

How do regular pants not work for you?

I'm wondering the same thing.

Choose "normal" pants -preferably ones that fit well, look good, and don't have excessive pockets- and then go up one inch for the waist.

ETA: It's cold here, so it's easy enough to wear some wool slacks (like these (http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306 418052&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524447069982&R=888718669555&P_name=Theory&N=4294912273+306418052&bmUID=lFrNOM4)) and a black cardigan (http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306 418052&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524447071176&R=888718573531&P_name=Theory&N=4294912273+306418052&bmUID=lFrOSyS)... and still carry a full size M&P, fixed blade, spare mag, and throw my quark in a pocket.

[Qaz98]

I know the OP didn't ask for jeans, but hear me out. I found some Levi's relaxed fit "stretch" jeans and they are life changing for the gun toting American. I've bought three pair and they are more comfortable than any other pants i've found. As an added plus, I have found jeans to blend in with the crowds better than others.
I'm okay on jeans. I need more formal pants. And going up on a couple of sizes makes the overall appearance very baggy, especially the butt/crotch area. The Duluth middle management is actually perfect except for their belt loops.

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[OnionsAndDragons]

I mostly wear TAD and Eddie Bauer pants nowadays. TAD does their buttons more like toggles, and they are tough. I like that for some reason. I wear LAPG stuff at the restaurant because they are disposable to me.

I feel like a lady now that I have to buy jeans with fuckin spandex/Lycra in them; but since I started really lifting, no normal jeans that fit me right in the waist and ass will fit my thighs. (Clue: I have male genitalia) The Eddie Bauer stretch jeans are freaking great, and come w a lifetime guarantee like the Duluth.

I did not like the way the Duluth jeans I tried were cut, but I intend to try the Firehose pants at some point.

[Adam]

Lately I've been on a kick of Eddie Bauer Guide pants and Prana Stretch Zion. EB has sales regularly and just last week I bought a couple pair at around $30 each ($80 regular price). My only gripe with the EBs is the stitching in the back pockets comes unraveled and it drives me nuts. The Pranas are so far so good, but pricey. Both are very comfortable.

[OnionsAndDragons]

Lately I've been on a kick of Eddie Bauer Guide pants and Prana Stretch Zion. EB has sales regularly and just last week I bought a couple pair at around $30 each ($80 regular price). My only gripe with the EBs is the stitching in the back pockets comes unraveled and it drives me nuts. The Pranas are so far so good, but pricey. Both are very comfortable.

Definitely. I try to hit the big sale EB runs between Black Friday and Xmas every year.

I got a pair of the flexi sharkskin EB pants that I need to take in and exchange. The cut just isn't comparable to the other pants I have. It's always an adventure; some I need the tall cut, some I don't, and others I need to add 2 to the inseam cut because the tall cut would just look ridiculous but the regular needs a shoehorn for my junk. I do like that there are so many options for different sizes of people though.

[ubervic]

I hadn't shopped Eddie Bauer in a while but visited their website today after skimming this thread. Lo and behold: today is the final day of a sale in which many items are offered at 40% off.

Get sum.

[MGW]

I really want to try a pair of the Prana stretch Zions. Anyone tell me what the waist and length fit is like? I know it's somewhat subjective but it drives me crazy when pants fit small in the waist.

[PNWTO]

I really want to try a pair of the Prana stretch Zions. Anyone tell me what the waist and length fit is like? I know it's somewhat subjective but it drives me crazy when pants fit small in the waist.

I really like them but I buy a full size up due to my Teutonic frame and "squat thighs", which leaves them looser at the waist but easier in the seat and crotch. I'm also 6'5" if that is of any matter. I would say to buy up, unless you're built like Anton Krupicka. My $.02.

Krupicka -->

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[Qaz98]

I tried the Apex pants and they are very comfortable and definitely not too tactical looking. Not quite formal enough for a business meeting, though. I live the button which is seen in well and on a lanyard. No way that button pops off, which is my concern with the Magpul. Magpul is pretty sweet, too. Sounds like, though, the Eddie Bauer is the best value.

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[tsalagi88]

I've been looking for a casual pants, not jeans, that allows for wear when not carrying but also has the waist flexibility for a single or double stack. I have a pair of Magpuls flex pants, which are nice, but the button is about to pop when I carry. The next size up is too big if I'm not carrying.

5.11 seems to tactical for me. Any brands people have come across that they like?


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Alright guys, go easy on me. Probably a year or so ago, I tagged along with the wife into a Lululemon store. I didn't even know they made stuff for men so I started checking out what they had and noticed they had something called "A.B.C. (anti ball crusher) pants." I was carrying at the time and I figured I needed to see what these were about. They're made of a stretchy material so there's some flex in the waistband and the crotch is nice and roomy. Kinda pricy and not ideal for hard use but they're awesome for casual wear.

https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-pants/ABC-Pant-Regular/_/prod3470051

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[Qaz98]

Lululemon

https://shop.lululemon.com/p/men-pants/ABC-Pant-Regular/_/prod3470051

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Haha. The thought of carrying while wearing Lululemon is an oxymoron to great to resist. I'll be sure to ask the sales rep if the waist is flexible enough to accomodate a double stack . I'll take a pic of her face.

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[tsalagi88]

Haha. The thought of carrying while wearing Lululemon is an oxymoron to great to resist. I'll be sure to ask the sales rep if the waist is flexible enough to accomodate a double stack . I'll take a pic of her face.

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@chingy98, haha they are an oxymoron. Lululemon pants are the antithesis of the "shoot me first" pants, so I'll never be suspected as a threat!

[Gray222]

Necro'ing this thread as it seems the best thread to post this into...

I love me some 5.11 Apex pants, if you did not try them, you should as they are really good and comfortable.

I have, however, recently purchased the 5.11 Stonecutter pants -> http://www.511tactical.com/stonecutter-pant.html <- in brown and I am really happy with them. They have these pockets closer to the A-Line behind the rear pockets which are perfect size for magazines and flashlights...

[Qaz98]

Necro'ing this thread as it seems the best thread to post this into...

I love me some 5.11 Apex pants, if you did not try them, you should as they are really good and comfortable.

I have, however, recently purchased the 5.11 Stonecutter pants -> http://www.511tactical.com/stonecutter-pant.html <- in brown and I am really happy with them. They have these pockets closer to the A-Line behind the rear pockets which are perfect size for magazines and flashlights...
I got the 5.11 Apex pants and they are really awesome as promised. I have 3 pairs. I do like the Magpul pants, too, though. I'll have to check out the ones you mentioned.

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[MGW]

I got the 5.11 Apex pants and they are really awesome as promised. I have 3 pairs. I do like the Magpul pants, too, though. I'll have to check out the ones you mentioned.

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Which Magpul pants do you have? How's the sizing.

[Qaz98]

Magpul flex. A bit more formal looking than jeans but still casual. I'm a 32 33 and got the 32. It has a flexible waist for an inch or so you can carry IWB comfortably.



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[BobLoblaw]

My concealed carry pants are all jeans and slacks. Everyone knows only utilitarians carry guns ;)

[Tabasco]

Cowboy cut Wranglers are my favorite. Pockets aren't too deep, which helps with spare mag retrieval.

[Robinson]

How are the 5.11 pants typically cut? Relaxed, loose, trim, etc...

[Gray222]

How are the 5.11 pants typically cut? Relaxed, loose, trim, etc...

A mix between loose and relaxed. The crotch gusset and articulated knees give a little bit of definition but generally it's a fairly comfortable cut.

[blues]

How are the 5.11 pants typically cut? Relaxed, loose, trim, etc...

I've been wearing the standard cotton canvas version (original style) since they were Royal Robbins. Nice comfortable fit with an action waist (elastic at the sides) and very durable in my experience.

5.11 has 20% off on their site today along with free shipping so I just ordered an extra pair to have on hand when a pair of my original RR khakis eventually wears out.

[Robinson]

A mix between loose and relaxed. The crotch gusset and articulated knees give a little bit of definition but generally it's a fairly comfortable cut.

In that case I may have to try a pair of these.

[SamAdams]

Duluth all the way. I have quite a few of their Firehose pants & shorts. And I know exactly what is in each pocket (knife, money clip, car keys, cellphone, flashlight, etc) at any time because the same pockets are used every time.


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[Gray222]

Duluth all the way. I have quite a few of their Firehose pants & shorts. And I know exactly what is in each pocket (knife, money clip, car keys, cellphone, flashlight, etc) at any time because the same pockets are used every time.


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I have three pairs of firehose pants. One pair is perfect, the other two are too loose, all are the same size.

I had to return a pair of firehose dark brown pants because they pick up lint, hair and whatever else like it's their job. The other pants don't.

If I were to rate my current preference for pants...

#1 5.11 apex
#2 royal Robbins traveler
#3 5.11 stonecutter
#4 Duluth firehose
#5 relaxed wranglers
#6 kuhl revolvr
#7 very cargo pants - not really EDC pants but still nice

[blues]

Duluth all the way. I have quite a few of their Firehose pants & shorts. And I know exactly what is in each pocket (knife, money clip, car keys, cellphone, flashlight, etc) at any time because the same pockets are used every time.


I have no personal experience with Duluth but have considered them in the past...but as far as knowing exactly what's in each pocket, I've been able to do that with all my pants from jeans to my 5.11 pants and shorts for more years than I can remember.

Probably most of us are in the habit of using the same pockets for the same objects on a daily basis. I'd be more surprised to hear otherwise.

[SamAdams]

One of the things I like about the Firehose pants, for me, is their heavy construction. Our homestead is out in farm country and I often do heavy work in them. Before, I kept wearing out lighter constructed cargo pants. That they're made with construction trades guys in mind is an advantage for me. I actually was introduced to them by a relative who is a construction contractor.- - Also, I no longer need to wear a suit for work. So, I can wear such pants most times during the week.


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[blues]

One of the things I like about the Firehose pants, for me, is their heavy construction. Our homestead is out in farm country and I often do heavy work in them. Before, I kept wearing out lighter constructed cargo pants. That they're made with construction trades guys in mind is an advantage for me. I actually was introduced to them by a relative who is a construction contractor.- - Also, I no longer need to wear a suit for work. So, I can wear such pants most times during the week.


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You and me both, Sam. I live out in the country and wear my canvas 5.11's daily. (Whether pants or shorts depends on the day and the weather.)

I only wish I could wear 'em to a wedding this summer. (I hate to dress up.) :rolleyes:

[SamAdams]

You and me both, Sam. I live out in the country and wear my canvas 5.11's daily. (Whether pants or shorts depends on the day and the weather.)

I only wish I could wear 'em to a wedding this summer. (I hate to dress up.) :rolleyes:

I'll have to check out the 5.11s too. Sometimes the regular Firehose pants are a bit hot in the summer. They make a lighter weight version, but it uses some synthetic material and I prefer all cotton. (Heat & sweat factor). - - Its nice to find something that fits you right. One thing I hate is going to a store and trying out different clothes. I have no patience for that. - - On the other hand, I can spend hours in a sporting goods store checking out guns, reloading gear, or fishing tackle !


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[FOG]

The heavy Firehose are my go-to winter pants. They're just too hot for Oklahoma summers. The Firehose flex get worn alot in the summer. I like them ok but all the Duluth are a little too baggy for my taste, being a pretty slim guy. The lightweight Kuhl's are extremely comfortable for summer wear and fit me the best. My wife bought me a pair of TAD'S, those are really nice too.

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[SamAdams]

The heavy Firehose are my go-to winter pants. They're just too hot for Oklahoma summers. The Firehose flex get worn alot in the summer. I like them ok but all the Duluth are a little too baggy for my taste, being a pretty slim guy. The lightweight Kuhl's are extremely comfortable for summer wear and fit me the best. My wife bought me a pair of TAD'S, those are really nice too.

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Are the Firehose Flex pants cooler than the regular ones? Were they o.k. in the summer above 90F ? Thanks


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[FOG]

Are the Firehose Flex pants cooler than the regular ones? Were they o.k. in the summer above 90F ? Thanks


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Much cooler. Tolerable in the summer but the Kuhl's and TAD's are alot lighter and cooler so I wear them mostly in >90 if I have to wear long britches.

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[SamAdams]

Much cooler. Tolerable in the summer but the Kuhl's and TAD's are alot lighter and cooler so I wear them mostly in >90 if I have to wear long britches.

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[Gray222]

nneeecccrooooooopossttinnngggg

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[Glenn E. Meyer]

Won't work against Hela, Goddess of Death. See the trailer. LLBean tropic weight cargo pants work for me in the 104 days we having now. They easily take a bug in the pockets and other EDC crap in the cargo pockets.

[Gray222]

Won't work against Hela, Goddess of Death. See the trailer. LLBean tropic weight cargo pants work for me in the 104 days we having now. They easily take a bug in the pockets and other EDC crap in the cargo pockets.

Maybe not the goddess of death, but that's what the suppressed blaster is for...bish won't see it coming.

[vcdgrips]

For the budget conscious, Wrangler has an "Outdoor Series" they are selling at both WM and Target at sub 25.00 in a 100% poly fabric and cut that clearly took design cues from the Prana Zion Pant.
Target is also selling a 100% cotton pant in the same price point that was clearly inspired by Kuhl and/or Mountain Khaki. I have fondled but have yet to pull the trigger.

Please chime in if you all have seen what I have seen...

[DallasBronco]

nneeecccrooooooopossttinnngggg

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You must be super strong to be able to stand up with Thor's hammer on your belt.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Strong doesn't do it. You have to be worthy. Just to stay on track, as a fat old guy - I carry OWB with Perry Suspenders for my Glock. I'm not one for a draw that usually needs two hands. Opinions vary on this. BTW, I found that Cabela's cargo pants were crap. They wore out holes in them very quickly. Nor would they stand by a guarantee of return. Said it was normal wear.