Trijicon HD XR

[flux]

http://http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/12/06/new-trijicon-products/

[GJM]

Hopefully the forum member from Trijicon follows this thread. Here are some things that would make this a great product.

Aggressively dehorn the rear sight.

Change the width of the rear notch, to pair with this thinner front.

Offer a standard and taller front or the Glock, to start, as I need a .230 almost always to regulate POA/POI.

[flux]

Hoping they offer it as a front sight only option, I'd replace my current HD with this.

[SteveB]

Hoping they offer it as a front sight only option, I'd replace my current HD with this.

Looks like that would give you a .122 front with a .169 rear notch; how wide is too wide?

[JHC]

Hopefully the forum member from Trijicon follows this thread. Here are some things that would make this a great product.

Aggressively dehorn the rear sight.

Change the width of the rear notch, to pair with this thinner front.

Offer a standard and taller front or the Glock, to start, as I need a .230 almost always to regulate POA/POI.

The stock photo at Firearmsblog sure looks comfortably rounded on the edges. Let's hope.

[GJM]

One more thought. If the rear sight was just a tad shorter, meaning it did not extend quite as far rearward as the current one, it would keep the rear sight from printing as much, and keep the edge of the rear sight away from your clothing/skin.

[Gray222]

I've gone through this hope before, buying $120 sights only to be disappointed in their performance and going back to a pair of $30 all black sights, and being much happier.

[spinmove_]

I've gone through this hope before, buying $120 sights only to be disappointed in their performance and going back to a pair of $30 all black sights, and being much happier.

Same here except that I find myself preferring a white circle tritium front with a blacked out rear. It's simple and it seems like I can replicate a similar sight picture on just about any pistol I want.

[CS Tactical]

Everything George said...

[GJM]

Trijicon, please dehorn the piss out of your rear sight. I am looking at the start of a hole in a favorite new t shirt, after just one day's exposure to your rear sight.

[98z28]

Hopefully the forum member from Trijicon follows this thread. Here are some things that would make this a great product.

Aggressively dehorn the rear sight.

Change the width of the rear notch, to pair with this thinner front.

Offer a standard and taller front or the Glock, to start, as I need a .230 almost always to regulate POA/POI.

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One more thought. If the rear sight was just a tad shorter, meaning it did not extend quite as far rearward as the current one, it would keep the rear sight from printing as much, and keep the edge of the rear sight away from your clothing/skin.


Yes to all of the above. In fact, just make it short enough to be compatible with MOS slide dimensions so it will work with either version (I mean the the extent to which it extends beyond the dovetail to the rear of the slide, not the height).

[GJM]

Trijicon, please dehorn the piss out of your rear sight. I am looking at the start of a hole in a favorite new t shirt, after just one day's exposure to your rear sight.

Couldn't wait, taking action tonight.

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[GJM]

I went to run regular sights on a MOS 17 slide, and realize that the dovetail is further back, and as a result, many rear sights don't work. Then I happened upon this from 10-8:

http://www.10-8performance.com/glock-mos-rear-sight-standard-height/#PhotoSwipe1481251865410

Besides the MOS application, I bet this would work in a standard dovetail, providing a lower profile and being easier on skin and clothing.

[ssb]

I went to run regular sights on a MOS 17 slide, and realize that the dovetail is further back, and as a result, many rear sights don't work. Then I happened upon this from 10-8:

http://www.10-8performance.com/glock-mos-rear-sight-standard-height/#PhotoSwipe1481251865410

Besides the MOS application, I bet this would work in a standard dovetail, providing a lower profile and being easier on skin and clothing.

I have no experience with that particular 10-8 sight but my experience with two Glocks with the standard 10-8 sights has been very favorable in that I stopped getting holes in my shirts. Their standard Glock rears are dehorned quite nicely and I'd imagine the others are similarly so.

[MGW]

I hope these become available soon. I'm read to try some higher visibility sights on my Sigs.

[Crusader8207]

I hope these become available soon. I'm read to try some higher visibility sights on my Sigs.
They show up on my distributor web site as "coming soon" so they are in the system.

[BWT]

You know, if they would lower the rear notch; we wouldn't need these front sights that are like.... 30~% taller.

I don't hear about reliability issues of the factory Glock sights just performance.

God Bless,

Brandon

[AMC]

Greatly looking forward to trying these. I was one of those reading VDMs post about the Ameriglo FBI sights and desperately hoping for a Sig option. Love the visuals of the HDs, especially as my eyes get older. Started using a .115 red fiber front with a Warren/Sevigny rear on my game copy of my department gun......big difference on small targets at distance. Our armorer keeps telling me, "Yeah, but most of our shootings are like 7 yards, so HDs are great!" This does not give me the warm fuzzies, and he has been unwilling to sign the binding contract saying any shooting I am involved in will be less than 21 feet. Just can't get over that I feel like I'm aiming with a pumpkin on a fence post with the standard HDs.

[GJM]

I love the minutiae, but sights are over rated. Mostly, they just need to be regulated for POI, and not rip you and your clothing up.

[SLG]

I don't care for the rear sight, but should have a front soon to try out. We'll see.

[Clusterfrack]

I love the minutiae, but sights are over rated. Mostly, they just need to be regulated for POI, and not rip you and your clothing up.

Man, that is the truth. Can Trijicon make a sight like my beloved and now discontinued :mad: Ameriglo Operator yellow rear / green front? I'd buy a bunch of those in a heartbeat.

[spinmove_]

Man, that is the truth. Can Trijicon make a sight like my beloved and now discontinued :mad: Ameriglo Operator yellow rear / green front? I'd buy a bunch of those in a heartbeat.

You can still buy that set from AmeriGlo a la carte. I THINK Trijicon has that combo, but only in suppressor height.


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[Clusterfrack]

You can still buy that set from AmeriGlo a la carte. I THINK Trijicon has that combo, but only in suppressor height.


Thanks. I'll check, but last time I inquired I was told that they did not make them anymore.

[BobLoblaw]

Thanks. I'll check, but last time I inquired I was told that they did not make them anymore.

Correct, Ameriglo only offers the operator rear in green trit now.

[M2CattleCo]

I love the minutiae, but sights are over rated. Mostly, they just need to be regulated for POI, and not rip you and your clothing up.

That's where I am these days. I shoot stock Sig night sights because they're already there.

Back when I used to shoot a lot of USPSA and IDPA I tried just about every combination of Glock sights you get and I don't think I ever really noticed any difference between any of 'em.

[MGW]

They show up on my distributor web site as "coming soon" so they are in the system.

Can you see what pistols they are available for?

[LSP552]

That's where I am these days. I shoot stock Sig night sights because they're already there.

Back when I used to shoot a lot of USPSA and IDPA I tried just about every combination of Glock sights you get and I don't think I ever really noticed any difference between any of 'em.

I think as long as you can't see them, it's a personal preference issue. I shot standard SIG and Glock night sights forever, Heinies, and just about everything else chasing performance and changing vision. Vision changes with age have been responsible for most of my sight changes. Now, at 61, a hi-vis front is mandatory for me to see. That's why I really like the HDs on my carry 226 and 239.

While I don't carry it much, I need to see about painting the front factory night sight on my old issue 228 and run some drills....because science.

[AMC]

The high visibility front due to vision changes is what I'm after, and a thinner blade front definitely helps for precision for me. Those who can "aim small, miss small" with HDs.....more power to you.

[LSP552]

The high visibility front due to vision changes is what I'm after, and a thinner blade front definitely helps for precision for me. Those who can "aim small, miss small" with HDs.....more power to you.

The key for me with thick hi-vis is regulating them to top of the blade (or pumpkin). This helps a lot, for me. Both Trij and Ameriglo offer different hight fronts for SIGs and Glocks.

[AMC]

What's your POA/POI with the HDs using the top of the blade? 6 o'clock or center hold? And shooting 9mm or.40? I'm stuck with .40 with 180 gr Winchester Ranger for now.....as in the next 5 years.

[LSP552]

What's your POA/POI with the HDs using the top of the blade? 6 o'clock or center hold? And shooting 9mm or.40? I'm stuck with .40 with 180 gr Winchester Ranger for now.....as in the next 5 years.

Sorry, guess I should have specified. The 226 and 239 are 9mm and both had 8/8s from the factory. With HDs, the 239 hits exact top of blade at 25 with 124+P Gold Dots and last issue load from LSP which was 124 +P Golden Saber Bonded. It's shoots about 3" high at 25 with any 147 HR load.

The 226R is top of the blade at 25 yards with 147 gr Gold Dots, HST and Golden Saber. It shoots low at 25 with any 124 +P load, essentially turning it into a drive the dot with the lighter bullet. I like the 124+P Gold Dit and that's what is in my 239, and various Glocks. The 226 has 147 Gold Dots or HSTs, depending on what's available.

Since the 147s work so well and are very accurate, I don't have a problem keeping two loads around. If it bothered me, I'd replace the front sight on the 226 with a shorter one.

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Trijicon CS told me the rear notch dimensions are the same on the HD and the HD XR. Also they believe the front will be available separately and there may possibly be an option in house to order a completely separate rear with the HDXR front. (for the purpose of changing the POA/POI) Also I was told the XR front was a Federal LE request.
All details to be announced at SHOT.

[HCountyGuy]

So Trijicon is releasing a new version of their popular HD sights.

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Introducing the new Trijicon HD XR night sights! Featuring an expanded field of view and a precision sight picture the HD XR is designed for longer range target engagements. Built off of our highly popular HD line the HD XR promotes a larger field of view by utilizing a thin front post (.122” Width) combined with our u-notch rear. The front and rear utilize a tritium phosphor lamp capped with a sapphire jewel for low to no-light engagements, while the front sight post features a glow-in-the-dark photoluminescent paint (In orange or yellow) and the rear is painted black to quickly draw the eye to the front post.

For more information visit it us at our SHOT booth #12117 or check out the HD XR night sights on our website soon!

[Nephrology]

You hear that?

that's the sound of 1,000 wallets opening on P-F :)

[GJM]

Now give us a proportionate sized and dehorned rear sight, and we will all need second jobs to pay for HD sights.

[Nephrology]

Now give us a proportionate sized and dehorned rear sight, and we will all need second jobs to pay for HD sights.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is released sooner than later...

[David S.]

Now give us a proportionate sized and dehorned rear sight, and we will all need second jobs to pay for HD sights.

Yup!!

[H&KFanNC]

I want!


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[EVP]

Totally agree with a smoother dehorned profile and it would be nice if they offered subdued yellow rear tritium option.

[matt7184]

Totally agree with a smoother dehorned profile and it would be nice if they offered subdued yellow rear tritium option.

They do. Opticsplanet has them.

[HCM]

Existing thread:

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23363-Trijicon-HD-XR

[EVP]

Totally agree with a smoother dehorned profile and it would be nice if they offered subdued yellow rear tritium option.

Awesome good to know!

[Peally]

Change the rears so you can have something other than three green dots in the dark and it's a sure win. The originals were doable but a thinner super bright front sight would be great, especially for steel.

[El Cid]

Change the rears so you can have something other than three green dots in the dark and it's a sure win. The originals were doable but a thinner super bright front sight would be great, especially for steel.

I've addressed that for years on all 3 dot tritium sights with a black sharpie. Still a faint glow but very easy to distinguish even in total darkness

[Dave Williams]

Grip Force RTS may be the rear sight solution you are looking for for this front sight.

[El Cid]

Grip Force RTS may be the rear sight solution you are looking for for this front sight.

I've been wanting to try one of those. Just checked the site and still don't see a way to buy one. Any idea when they hit the street?

[Dave Williams]

I'm alerting him to this thread. Hopefully he'll chime in.

[MSparks909]

I think leaving the rear notch at the current width is a mistake. There is such a thing as too much width around the front sight. A .145-.150 notch width would have been more appropriate IMO.

[AMC]

Well, there goes $160.

[littlejerry]

I think leaving the rear notch at the current width is a mistake. There is such a thing as too much width around the front sight. A .145-.150 notch width would have been more appropriate IMO.

The new XR paired with a Warren or 10-8 rear might be nice.

[JHC]

It seems odd that their graphic shows the current HD has having NO light bars at all whereas they sure do on 26s, 19s and 17s I've got them on. I might try a new set to see if this time wider light bars make for more longer range precision but I've not found that to be the case before. The best 25 and 50 yard shooting I've done has been with HDs, fat front sight or not. I think the light bars on them are in a sweet spot for me.

[Wondering Beard]

The new XR paired with a Warren or 10-8 rear might be nice.

If the heights match.

10-8s are pretty low on the gun, HDs aren't.

[GJM]

If the heights match.

10-8s are pretty low on the gun, HDs aren't.

The HD rear is advertised as having the same overall height as a Heinie/10-8/Warren rear sight.

[LSP552]

It seems odd that their graphic shows the current HD has having NO light bars at all whereas they sure do on 26s, 19s and 17s I've got them on. I might try a new set to see if this time wider light bars make for more longer range precision but I've not found that to be the case before. The best 25 and 50 yard shooting I've done has been with HDs, fat front sight or not. I think the light bars on them are in a sweet spot for me.

For my older eyes, the larger hi-vis HD front really is the sweet spot. I'd like to see a smaller front but I'm worried about the smaller hi-vis element. I like the various Ameriglo Pro-Glo stuff also, but the Trij HD just works best for me at this point in my life.

[Peally]

I've addressed that for years on all 3 dot tritium sights with a black sharpie. Still a faint glow but very easy to distinguish even in total darkness

I do the same thing on some of my sights, it'd just be nice to have something good to go straight from the factory.

[David S.]

I don't know anything about pairing sights. Any thoughts how these might regulate up for the H&K P30?

Rear: Vickers Elite Battlesight (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Vickers-Elite-Battlesight-for-HK-Black-Serrated/productinfo/699HKB/) is supposed to pair with .225 front for top of sight at 15 yards.

Front: Trij HD (https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=HK110O) is .215.

Am I right thinking that pairing these two would give you something closer to drive the dot?

[Peally]

FWIW with Trij HDs my HK45 sighting didn't really change, I still had to cover my POI with that big fat dot to hit.

[Jason M]

Trijicon CS told me the rear notch dimensions are the same on the HD and the HD XR. Also they believe the front will be available separately and there may possibly be an option in house to order a completely separate rear with the HDXR front. (for the purpose of changing the POA/POI) Also I was told the XR front was a Federal LE request.
All details to be announced at SHOT.

Since they mentioned the rear sight, was anything said about rendering the rear sight clothing/body safe?

[littlejerry]

I don't know anything about pairing sights. Any thoughts how these might regulate up for the H&K P30?

Rear: Vickers Elite Battlesight (http://shopwilsoncombat.com/Vickers-Elite-Battlesight-for-HK-Black-Serrated/productinfo/699HKB/) is supposed to pair with .225 front for top of sight at 15 yards.

Front: Trij HD (https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=HK110O) is .215.

Am I right thinking that pairing these two would give you something closer to drive the dot?

Nope. A shorter front sight drives the POI higher.

[Gray222]

I really want to like these but I am sure they are like $150 or something ungodly and I can't justify that when even the tritium dot Defoor sights (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HQCDP9W/) are under $70. And the LE CAP sights Ameriglo makes are fantastic too. I am thinking Trijicon waited too long to fix any issues and lost a market segment.

[David S.]

Damn, you're right. I is the dumb.

[Al T.]

FORS - front opposite, rear same. For my small brain, I find this useful when dealing with iron sights. :)

[SLG]

I have a set of these in my hands now. Seem nice, but I'll know more once I mount them up.

[LOKNLOD]

The new XR paired with a Warren or 10-8 rear might be nice.

Agreed. I've got a 10-8 setup with a fiber optic I'd rather have a trit/hi-viz front for. And the same with a set of warrens, actually.

[David S.]

Natchezss: HD-XR (https://www.natchezss.com/trijicon-hd-xr-night-sight-set-yellow-front-outline-for-glock-models-17-39.html).

If it's an actual pic, then the rear sight appears to be same-ol', same-ol'.

[scjbash]

They aren't available yet but Natchez has pages for Glock, M&P, S&W SD, Shield, XD-S, XDM. $118.

Actually, they show in stock for Glock 42 & 43, but that could be an error.

https://www.natchezss.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=trijicon%20hd%20xr

[GJM]

They aren't available yet but Natchez has pages for Glock, M&P, S&W SD, Shield, XD-S, XDM. $118.

Actually, they show in stock for Glock 42 & 43, but that could be an error.

https://www.natchezss.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=trijicon%20hd%20xr

Hope they make .230 fronts (stock is .215) for the Glock, or a bunch of Glock pistols will be shooting high.

[scjbash]

Agreed. I've got a 10-8 setup with a fiber optic I'd rather have a trit/hi-viz front for. And the same with a set of warrens, actually.

I just ordered a .156 10-8 rear for an M&P 2.0 I'll be picking up soon. If the XR fronts are available individually in the near future I'm going to try that setup.

[El Cid]

Hope they make .230 fronts (stock is .215) for the Glock, or a bunch of Glock pistols will be shooting high.

I've found .245 tall fronts necessary on my 19 and 26 with 147gr pills. And that's with a 6 o'clock hold.

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Since they mentioned the rear sight, was anything said about rendering the rear sight clothing/body safe?

I didn't ask about that. My interpretation, right or wrong, is that its the same rear sight

[SLG]

My Starrett's say .124 wide and .176 tall, not including the dovetail base. Front sight, of course. I think the rear is supposed to be the same as before.

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[John Hearne]

They aren't available yet but Natchez has pages for Glock, M&P, S&W SD, Shield, XD-S, XDM. $118.

Actually, they show in stock for Glock 42 & 43, but that could be an error.

https://www.natchezss.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=trijicon%20hd%20xr

But no Sigs. Why do the shooting gods hate me????

[SLG]

But no Sigs. Why do the shooting gods hate me????

Because it takes a very refined person to appreciate a Sig these days. You just don't find those kinds of people growing on trees. :-)

[littlejerry]

Hope they make .230 fronts (stock is .215) for the Glock, or a bunch of Glock pistols will be shooting high.

All 3 HD sets I've interacted with on Glocks required a taller front(on one 17 and 2 19s). These were all Gen4 guns. Trijicon didn't swap out, they required the owners to buy a new taller front for I think $50.

I'm not thrilled to potentially spend $200 on Glock sights. I'll stick with Amerigo, 10-8, Warren, and Dawson.

[AMC]

But no Sigs. Why do the shooting gods hate me????

I feel like kicking a baby right now.

[JCS]

All 3 HD sets I've interacted with on Glocks required a taller front(on one 17 and 2 19s). These were all Gen4 guns. Trijicon didn't swap out, they required the owners to buy a new taller front for I think $50.

I'm not thrilled to potentially spend $200 on Glock sights. I'll stick with Amerigo, 10-8, Warren, and Dawson.

A couple months ago I sent an email to Trijicon because my guns were shooting high. They sent me the taller front sight free of charge and let me keep the old one. The guy made it seem like it was no big deal.

[HCM]

I think they are like SIG - it depends on what CS rep you get and what kind of mood they are in.

I just called trijicon to get a replacement turret cap for an accupoint scope - the rep wanted to sell me a pair for $35. Most companies would just send you one, in fact I'll bet if I call back and speak to another rep there is a good chance they will just send one.

[SLG]

I think they are like SIG - it depends on what CS rep you get and what kind of mood they are in.

I just called trijicon to get a replacement turret cap for an accupoint scope - the rep wanted to sell me a pair for $35. Most companies would just send you one, in fact I'll bet if I call back and speak to another rep there is a good chance they will just send one.

That's disappointing to hear.

[RJ]

A couple months ago I sent an email to Trijicon because my guns were shooting high. They sent me the taller front sight free of charge and let me keep the old one. The guy made it seem like it was no big deal.

Good for you.

I had a similar experience with my M&P shooting 3" high at 7 yds with HDs.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/393159-do-trijicon-hd-night-sights-shoot-bit-high-vs-stock-sights.html


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[AMC]

The HDXR sights are on the Trijicon website now. SIG's are definitely included! Thank you, Jesus! And apologies to all those babies I thought about kicking today.:p

[BaiHu]

I think they are like SIG - it depends on what CS rep you get and what kind of mood they are in.

I just called trijicon to get a replacement turret cap for an accupoint scope - the rep wanted to sell me a pair for $35. Most companies would just send you one, in fact I'll bet if I call back and speak to another rep there is a good chance they will just send one.
This has been my trick since the late 90s with cell carriers. If I wasn't getting anywhere, I'd just hang up and call again. Usually it only took one hang up. Sometimes I'd wait a day for my rage to subside.

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[BCL]

According to the website, .122 front with a .169 rear notch. Too wide of a rear notch for my eyes.

[Edwin]

Support for the god damned FNH but nothing for Beretta? WTF

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[scjbash]

I talked to trijicon and they said the fronts will be available individually after they fulfil their orders of sets.

[Dagga Boy]

Well, after getting my HD's on my P30SK and lasting ten minutes of carry with it.....until Trijicon can dehorn the rear razor blades, I ll be passing on any future sights from them, and not recommending them any longer. I will end up having to spend money, time and effort to get these things removed from Sk and put on a spare VP9. Love the sight picture for my eyes, but they are wholly unusable for a concealment pistol at this point. The ones on my P2000SK are workable after a holster change and because they don't go to the rear of the slide. Even those wore a hole in Duluth 11 ounce Firehose pants when I was using a Smart Carry holster for a couple weeks.

I wonder if there is any other rear sight option that will work with the front on the HK's.

[g19-9mm]

First time posting just registered, not sure how I missed this forum. Have 4 sets of hd's and the first sets rear was very sharp. The other 3 not nearly as bad. My edc is a g19 with orange/green front and yellow rear from midway. Have never has issues with holes or wearing thru clothing but that first set would bite if you weren't careful. Excited about the thinner front and can't wait to be able to get one and try is out.

[Pima Cty Five-O]

Noticed that Trijicon now includes a .230 tall front sight in their Glock 9mm/.357SIG/.40 HD XR sets. The standard HD sets still have the .215 front blade height.

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P.S. Sorry about the slightly blurry screenshots. I think my phone is on the way out. ;)

[HCM]

Support for the god damned FNH but nothing for Beretta? WTF

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HD type sights were a requirement for both the FBI and DHS ICE pistol competitions - perhaps they were developed at the request of or under contract for FN.

[Pima Cty Five-O]

Here's the Trijicon link for more clarity:

http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL601-C-600836

[JSGlock34]

I talked to trijicon and they said the fronts will be available individually after they fulfil their orders of sets.

Good to hear. Definitely plan to buy some of these.

[g19-9mm]

First time posting just registered, not sure how I missed this forum. Have 4 sets of hd's and the first sets rear was very sharp. The other 3 not nearly as bad. My edc is a g19 with orange/green front and yellow rear from optics planet. Have never has issues with holes or wearing thru clothing but that first set would bite if you weren't careful. Excited about the thinner front and can't wait to be able to get one and try is out.

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Welcome aboard! ^^^^^^^^

[Gio]

According to the website, .122 front with a .169 rear notch. Too wide of a rear notch for my eyes.

This ratio of front to rear width is concerning to me for shooting low probability targets at speed. I wish they had narrowed the rear notch to .150"

[SLG]

This ratio of front to rear width is concerning to me for shooting low probability targets at speed. I wish they had narrowed the rear notch to .150"

I agree, but I guess I'll give it a try and see.

[AMC]

I agree that sounds like sighting through a barn door with a needle, but I've got a 9mm P226 with Warren/Sevigny sights on it with a .115 Fiber front and a .150 rear. Not sure how close the ratio is to the HDXR's .122 front and .169 rear because math is hard, but it's gotta be close, right? The Warren's work pretty well for me.

[Chef]

Well, after getting my HD's on my P30SK and lasting ten minutes of carry with it.....until Trijicon can dehorn the rear razor blades, I ll be passing on any future sights from them, and not recommending them any longer. I will end up having to spend money, time and effort to get these things removed from Sk and put on a spare VP9. Love the sight picture for my eyes, but they are wholly unusable for a concealment pistol at this point. The ones on my P2000SK are workable after a holster change and because they don't go to the rear of the slide. Even those wore a hole in Duluth 11 ounce Firehose pants when I was using a Smart Carry holster for a couple weeks.

I wonder if there is any other rear sight option that will work with the front on the HK's.
I had the same issue with my HK45 and while I never went this route I remember reading the 10-8 rear sight can work - the wider of the options. I chose to use a dremel with a grinding wheel and some testors paint to get it to stop ripping undershirts.

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[SLG]

My Glock XR's will be here anyday now, and if they are too sharp (I've heard they fixed that, but IDK), I intend to dull them myself, if I like the rest of what they offer.

[EM_]

Please report back SLG I'm very interested in this new combo.

[AMC]

Three threads on these damn sights. Every time I come to this site there's a new one! You people hate me having money in my wallet, don't you?

[backtrail540]

In Stock at g&r


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[Steve f]

have had these the past 2.5 years myself and will petty requested them they didn't make them we had one of my buddies their make us 2-3 sets
they were tabled till a Fed agency saw them SIGH ours were dehorned by the way, Id like them with a square notch personaly

[Chipster]

In Stock at g&r


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HOLY COW!!!!! $175????

[Rick62]

HOLY COW!!!!! $175????

Good guy pricing is a slightly more manageable $148.

I'm hesitant to bite ; I don't have any experience with that wide of a rear with a thin front. Looking forward to hearing the thoughts of those who pick a set up though.



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[Pima Cty Five-O]

MidwayUSA has them in stock for Glocks now:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018309321/trijicon-hd-xr-night-sight-set-glock-17-17l-19-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-31-32-33-34-35-37-38-39-steel-matte-3-dot-tritium-green

I ordered a set two days ago. Should have them on my G17 by the end of the week.

Gary

[Chipster]

Ordered a pair through Midway. Does anyone want a set of Vickers Battle sights for the cheap, cheap price of $149?

[AMC]

Haven't been able to locate a pair for a SIG 226 .40 anywhere but Trijicon's site. Anyone seen them for that combo yet?

[John Hearne]

Haven't been able to locate a pair for a SIG 226 .40 anywhere but Trijicon's site. Anyone seen them for that combo yet?

No - the sights option universe loves to hate Sig shooters.....

[SLG]

I just put a set on my 17. Doesn't seem that thin, and the light bars seem pretty normal. I had to mike the front sight to be sure it was the .122 It is.

I'll shoot it tomorrow and see how it does for me.

[Pima Cty Five-O]

I received my set this afternoon. I waited as long as I could before I went to the range today, hoping to be able to throw the XRs on first, but no such luck.

I installed them a couple hours ago and I think I will really like these. The front sight is noticeably narrower and like SLG, I think the light bars are fine. I am wondering if the published .169 wide rear notch dimension is really .160 wide as the light bars seemed normal to me with the standard .144W HD front sight, not appearing like the rear notch was .025 wider than the front sight. Maybe the u-notch design has something to do with it.

I don't have a micrometer to check the front sight width, but I rested a .115W Defoor sight on top of the XR front sight & the XR was barely wider.

I can't wait to test these out. And I opted for the orange colored front. Going to get the yellow front when they become separately available for another 17 I have that has HDs on it, to compare.

Gary

[El Cid]

Ordered a pair through Midway. Does anyone want a set of Vickers Battle sights for the cheap, cheap price of $149?

You're LE... you know Trijicon sells their sights with a generous discount through Promotive?

[blues]

You're LE... you know Trijicon sells their sights with a generous discount through Promotive?

Does that apply to only active or retired as well?

[El Cid]

Does that apply to only active or retired as well?

I'm not sure. It's for LE and mil, and maybe Fire/EMS too. Website is www.promotive.com

[blues]

I'm not sure. It's for LE and mil, and maybe Fire/EMS too. Website is www.promotive.com

Apparently it's now experticity.com (https://www.experticity.com/)

It looks like there's a category for retired LE but I'll hold off before giving any of my personal info until I know more. Thanks for the info.

[El Cid]

Apparently it's now experticity.com (https://www.experticity.com/)

It looks like there's a category for retired LE but I'll hold off before giving any of my personal info until I know more. Thanks for the info.

I've been a member for years and bought lots of gear from a variety of companies there. Very reliable in my experience.

[Chipster]

You're LE... you know Trijicon sells their sights with a generous discount through Promotive?


I am a member there but I always seem to forget that there's Trijicon there. I rarely check that website. Shame on me.

[SLG]

I just went and shot 100 rounds through my G17 with the XR sights.

I'm not a fan of U notch sights at this time, but I'm willing to give them an honest, extended try. My 25 yard accuracy did not seem to suffer, and was better than yesterday with the 19M. The POI is basically dead on at 25, and I wish they hit 2" higher, but oh well.

So far, all I can say is they work. I'll give them a few thousand rounds at least, and then go from there.

[Gray222]

Saw these today on a SIRT at a show.

No, thank you, I will pass.

[MGW]

Why is that?

[Gray222]

Why is that?

Front is shorter width,cool.

It looks like an ameriglo pro I dot. Rear is still sharp as hell.

[MGW]

Good to know. I'll pass too then.

[Pit]

Front is shorter width,cool.

It looks like an ameriglo pro I dot. Rear is still sharp as hell.

Looking for a clarification. I thought the front sight was just thinner but same height. But as you've actually had eyes on them. Front sight is thinner? or shorter? Both? I'm thinking the new front sight with a 10-8 rear.

JW

[blues]

https://www.trijicon.com/images/general/HDNS_front2.jpg

HD XR:

Blade Width (A) Blade Height (B) Overall Height (C)
0.122 in. 0.230 in. 0.283 in.

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL601-C-600836

HD:

Width 0.144 Blade Height 0.215 Overall Height 0.268

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL101O

So, according to the Trijicon site the HD XR sight is narrower but taller.

[Pit]

https://www.trijicon.com/images/general/HDNS_front2.jpg

HD XR:

Blade Width (A) Blade Height (B) Overall Height (C)
0.122 in. 0.230 in. 0.283 in.

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL601-C-600836

HD:

Width 0.144 Blade Height 0.215 Overall Height 0.268

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL101O

So, according to the Trijicon site the HD XR sight is narrower but taller.

Thx brother!

[AMC]

https://www.trijicon.com/images/general/HDNS_front2.jpg

HD XR:

Blade Width (A) Blade Height (B) Overall Height (C)
0.122 in. 0.230 in. 0.283 in.

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL601-C-600836

HD:

Width 0.144 Blade Height 0.215 Overall Height 0.268

https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL101O

So, according to the Trijicon site the HD XR sight is narrower but taller.

I'm wondering if this is just unclear website info. Could this simply reflect the height difference between the #6 and #8 sight heights? After all....Rear is supposed to be the same, right?

[AMC]

Just checked the Trijicon site myself......Looking at the HD versus the HD XR set for a .40 SIG Sauer 226......Height (including overall) of both sights is identical, front and rear. Width of the front blade is the only difference (.122 versus .144). Maybe different for pistols with a different front sight mount like the Austrian Tupperware?

[Gray222]

The Trijicon rep I talked to referred to them as "Extended Range" HD sights, "made for an FBI contract." Then went on to say they have new "iron sight manager in the company, who only deals with sights."

The rears are sharp as the normal HD sights. The U notch appeared to be exactly the same as the normal HD sights, probably some geometry changes (maybe?) but essentially the same. Price tag still 2-3x what the ameriglo pro-i operator sights cost for essentially the same thing.

[blues]

Just checked the Trijicon site myself......Looking at the HD versus the HD XR set for a .40 SIG Sauer 226......Height (including overall) of both sights is identical, front and rear. Width of the front blade is the only difference (.122 versus .144). Maybe different for pistols with a different front sight mount like the Austrian Tupperware?

That would certainly make the most sense. I simply copied the info from the Trijicon site regarding the size for a G17.

Perhaps they just screwed up their numbers. If someone has a contact with them perhaps they can check.

[AMC]

Looking at Ameriglo's site, the Pro Operators for SIG's only come with a .140 inch front....That .125 front is still only listed for Glock, far as I can tell. And the price is $140......Only like $35 cheaper than the HD XRs full price. They still look like the best option for what I want, but $175 to put sights on my department gun that I'm only gonna have for a few more years is sticking in my craw.

[blues]

Looking at Ameriglo's site, the Pro Operators for SIG's only come with a .140 inch front....That .125 front is still only listed for Glock, far as I can tell. And the price is $140......Only like $35 cheaper than the HD XRs full price. They still look like the best option for what I want, but $175 to put sights on my department gun that I'm only gonna have for a few more years is sticking in my craw.

I know they're not the XR's...but fwiw I just purchased two sets of the HDs at DSG Arms via their LE/MIL program for $118 each, no tax, free shipping. Ordered on Monday and they were here today. (My thanks to El Cid who turned me on to them.)

I don't recall seeing the XR's when I ordered but you might want to check with them.

[Chipster]

I just went and shot 100 rounds through my G17 with the XR sights.

I'm not a fan of U notch sights at this time, but I'm willing to give them an honest, extended try. My 25 yard accuracy did not seem to suffer, and was better than yesterday with the 19M. The POI is basically dead on at 25, and I wish they hit 2" higher, but oh well.

So far, all I can say is they work. I'll give them a few thousand rounds at least, and then go from there.

Are you "driving the dot", or using the top edge? I've got mine installed but not sighted in yet. I wish they had a set screw as mine felt just a bit easy to get centered with the MGW tool I've got. I'll be interested to see if they shoot loose. The boy took the Vickers gold bead to put on his. Much tighter fit in the dovetail.

[John Hearne]

Just spoke to Trijicon and they advised that they have the Sig sights in-stock. Also, they will allow LE firearms instructors to purchase one magnified optic and/or one set of iron sights per year at a 40% discount. That drops the HD XR's to around $105 per set.

Link: https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/application/page.php?id=176

[SLG]

Are you "driving the dot", or using the top edge? I've got mine installed but not sighted in yet. I wish they had a set screw as mine felt just a bit easy to get centered with the MGW tool I've got. I'll be interested to see if they shoot loose. The boy took the Vickers gold bead to put on his. Much tighter fit in the dovetail.

I'm using the top edge, but I'm told that the sights were designed for drive the dot. Frankly, that doesn't make sense on several levels, but I'm not going to go into why that is in public.

Using the top edge, my 17 shoots POA/POI at 25. I just put 368 rounds through it this morning, and I have to say, I like the sights. My accuracy was quite good, and they are pretty fast.

Testing continues, but if I could raise the POI 2" or so at 25, I'd likely never look for other sights.

[LSP552]

I'm using the top edge, but I'm told that the sights were designed for drive the dot. Frankly, that doesn't make sense on several levels, but I'm not going to go into why that is in public.

Using the top edge, my 17 shoots POA/POI at 25. I just put 368 rounds through it this morning, and I have to say, I like the sights. My accuracy was quite good, and they are pretty fast.

Testing continues, but if I could raise the POI 2" or so at 25, I'd likely never look for other sights.

Since the HDs come in different heights, wondering if these will also? With my old guy vision, I will be staying with the HDs but these look like a great option for those who can see. I personally need all of the bright orange I can get:)

[El Cid]

I'm using the top edge, but I'm told that the sights were designed for drive the dot. Frankly, that doesn't make sense on several levels, but I'm not going to go into why that is in public.

Using the top edge, my 17 shoots POA/POI at 25. I just put 368 rounds through it this morning, and I have to say, I like the sights. My accuracy was quite good, and they are pretty fast.

Testing continues, but if I could raise the POI 2" or so at 25, I'd likely never look for other sights.
Which ammo? I ask because I've found 147gr to impact 5 or so inches higher at 25 yards than 115gr pills. Drives me nuts when I have to train with one yet carry the other.

[SLG]

El Cid,

Both training and duty ammo seems to hit to the same POI. I haven't shot a ton of duty through it yet, I'll try to compare again next time. Also just got another gen 4 17 issued, so I have to get that one squared away as well.

[Chipster]

So I was getting 50% on the 3x5 during the FAST drill on Sunday with the HD XR's. Switched to my Gen4 w/Heines and hit 76/80 running a 2.0 par time (averaging 2.07) on Monday. Did some slow fire accuracy drills today between both and grouped 1/2 the size with the HD XR's. I think I am dropping the dot into the bottom of the "U" notch when I speed things up. Ran a couple of magazines of ball and dummies just to make sure I wasn't dumping shots. I'm beginning to think the "U" may just not be my cup of tea after having problems with both the Vickers and the HD XR's.

I'm wondering if I can put the HD XR front on the Heinie rear? Ain't helping that I'm switching between a RTF2 and a Gen4 but my hand tends to slip a bit more on the Gen4 and I feel like I get a more solid grip with the RTF2. Starting to feel like my wife and color schemes.

This was about halfway through my 80 w/Heinies. The three high ones were from the XD's as well.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/Chipster_1974/C929E06F-CFEA-4AC3-9C95-054A45C731B7.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/Chipster_1974/media/C929E06F-CFEA-4AC3-9C95-054A45C731B7.jpg.html)

[SLG]

So I was getting 50% on the 3x5 during the FAST drill on Sunday with the HD XR's. Switched to my Gen4 w/Heines and hit 76/80 running a 2.0 par time (averaging 2.07) on Monday. Did some slow fire accuracy drills today between both and grouped 1/2 the size with the HD XR's. I think I am dropping the dot into the bottom of the "U" notch. I'm beginning to think the "U" may just not be my cup of tea after having problems with both the Vickers and the HD XR's.

I'm wondering if I can put the HD XR front on the Heinie rear? Ain't helping that I'm switching between a RTF2 and a Gen4.

Sights, and their regulation, are a pain when you stray from proven contract specs or you demand more performance.

There was a thread somewhere talking about adjustable sights for duty use. I'm still against the idea, but I have to say, between factory G issues and personal preferences, it is a real pain to get my sights regulated. But once they are, they are.

[kev8287]

Does anyone know the size of Heinie rear sight.

[LSP552]

Does anyone know the size of Heinie rear sight.

For the 9mm guns, they use a .215 front sight. They do make different heights for the front if you issues with zero. Overall, I find the G34/35s to shoot higher and need a taller front.

[Sherman A. House DDS]

Whenever I feel like trying out a new type/brand of sights, I shoot the Heinies I already have, and then I worry about something else. I know they aren't high tech, but they work on everything I have them on (Glock, Smith, HK, 1911).


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[Kevin B.]

For the 9mm guns, they use a .215 front sight. They do make different heights for the front if you issues with zero. Overall, I find the G34/35s to shoot higher and need a taller front.

My G17s and G22 needed taller front sights as well.

[SLG]

Which ammo? I ask because I've found 147gr to impact 5 or so inches higher at 25 yards than 115gr pills. Drives me nuts when I have to train with one yet carry the other.

I only shot my new 17 today. Duty ammo was a hair left and ball was a hair right. Basically poa, poi at 25 for elevation, and then a hair either way. Kind of annoying, but close enough, I suppose. :-(

I pushed my sights a round a bit, trying to get it all lined up, but the ball was always right and the duty was always left, so I split the difference.

[El Cid]

I only shot my new 17 today. Duty ammo was a hair left and ball was a hair right. Basically poa, poi at 25 for elevation, and then a hair either way. Kind of annoying, but close enough, I suppose. :-(

I pushed my sights a round a bit, trying to get it all lined up, but the ball was always right and the duty was always left, so I split the difference.

Damn. I don't think I've experienced that before. I don't even know what to suggest. Lol!

[SLG]

Damn. I don't think I've experienced that before. I don't even know what to suggest. Lol!

Tell me about it. Usually its an elevation issue. This is weird and annoying, but its literally like an inch left and and inch right.

[GJM]

My Berry's 124 reloads shoot 2.5 inches higher and 2.0 inches left of American Eagle 124 in my MOS 19 pistols at 25. In my USP 45 FS, Buffalo Bore 230 FMJ-FP Super ammo hits two inches left of my 230 ball and HST, at 25. In my AR9 PCC, Lawman 147 hits higher and 1.5 inches left of PMC 115. I see windage variation all the time, even in service pistols and service pistol calibers.

[BobLoblaw]

Tell me about it. Usually its an elevation issue. This is weird and annoying, but its literally like an inch left and and inch right.

That one's setup for gangsters. Turn it sideways, problem solved.

[El Cid]

Tell me about it. Usually its an elevation issue. This is weird and annoying, but its literally like an inch left and and inch right.

Sounds like a citizens academy demo gun to me. Definitely not for shooting hostage takers in the face. Lol!

[SLG]

Sounds like a citizens academy demo gun to me. Definitely not for shooting hostage takers in the face. Lol!

It's a brand new program gun. Minus connector, if you get my meaning. Shoots very well, just not the same with both loads.

GJM,

The difference here though is that the ball load is 115 plus P, and the duty load is 147, so you would expect some vertical difference. With same weight loads, I've seen what you describe as well.

[Chipster]

Shot dot torture at 7 yards and scored 48/50. Dropped two at the 5 SHO as I played a bit with my angle. Both shots went low at the 6 o'clock. Totally my fault and not the sights.

Started running my draw, 2 shots to the 3x5 at 7 yards with a 2 second par time. While I could occasionally get a sub 2 second set off, it was rare and it was never clean. To keep it clean I had to slow down to 2.20-2.30. My fastest time clean was a 2.15. For some reason I can't seem to keep both shots in the card when I push the gas a bit with these sights. Shooting again tomorrow so I'll push it some more and see. 60 degrees in N. Indiana in February is a gift from the shooting Gods!

[Greg]

I've been waiting for the FBI Ameriglo sights, but these Trijicons are tempting.

Good thing I spent my February gun money on holsters and reloading stuff :p

[SLG]

I've been waiting for the FBI Ameriglo sights, but these Trijicons are tempting.

Good thing I spent my February gun money on holsters and reloading stuff :p

I slightly prefer the xr sights, but they are close enough to each other that it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.

[AMC]

Aaaaaaand......There goes my birthday money.

[John Hearne]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a set or two but have a question: How well do the HD's match with the factory Sig sight numbers?

I ask because my long slide P220 is zeroed well with an 8 at the front and an 8 on the rear. This is different from what Trijicon recommends which is a 6 front and an 8 rear. Any insight?

[UNK]

No insight on your question however if you want a different height front sight than what you originally bought you have to send your slide back to them OR buy a different height front if you will install it yourself. Per Sig CS yesterday.


I'm about to pull the trigger on a set or two but have a question: How well do the HD's match with the factory Sig sight numbers?

I ask because my long slide P220 is zeroed well with an 8 at the front and an 8 on the rear. This is different from what Trijicon recommends which is a 6 front and an 8 rear. Any insight?

[LSP552]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a set or two but have a question: How well do the HD's match with the factory Sig sight numbers?

I ask because my long slide P220 is zeroed well with an 8 at the front and an 8 on the rear. This is different from what Trijicon recommends which is a 6 front and an 8 rear. Any insight?

John,

It's a small sample size but I have HDs on a 226, 228 and 239. All are 8/8 9mm guns. Each set duplicates POI for the factory night sights that were on them. The 226 is behind the dot with 124 +p and almost top of blade for 147s. The 239 is top of blade with 124+P and high with 147s, the 228 about the same as the 226. No change in POA/POI going from sig night sights to the HDs for these 3 guns.

Need to add these are the standard HDs and not the XR.

[MSparks909]

Just swapped the factory Sig XRays on my P226 Legion for the orange HD XRs. Hopefully I'll get to the range Saturday. I'll give an update if I have one. If the trip goes well and the sights continue to hit behind the dot, I'm going to swap my other 2 Sigs to the orange HD XRs.

[JSGlock34]

ETA: HD XR front sights available here...

http://www.opticsplanet.com/trijicon-hd-xr-front-sight.html

[JSGlock34]

New HD XR sights for MOS pistols. These are not suppressor height and so will not co-witness with MRDS sights, but they won't overhang the back of a MOS slide. Similar in concept to the Ameriglo Troopers.

GL614-C-601091: Trijicon HD XR™ Night Sight Set with MOS Fit Rear - Yellow Front Outline - for Glock® Pistols
(https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=GL614-C-601091)

https://www.trijicon.com/images/product_masters/GL614-C-601091.jpg