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HCM
11-24-2016, 12:47 PM
Man, 69, sets himself on fire in Highland Square moments after ranting about President-elect Trump


A 69-year-old Akron man wearing a U.S. Marines uniform doused himself in gasoline and set himself ablaze on a Highland Square street Saturday morning.

Witnesses said the self-immolation occurred moments after the man became increasingly agitated while ranting to strangers about the need to protest President-elect Donald Trump.

It was unclear whether the man, who had not been publicly identified, would survive. Police said he was taken to Akron Children’s Hospital with severe burns. A passer-by who tried to save the man by extinguishing the flames with his coat was not injured.

The incident unfolded about 2 miles west of downtown Akron in a neighborhood that hosted an anti-Trump rally late Tuesday night that drew several hundred people.

Kyle Reese
11-24-2016, 01:25 PM
Derp.

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Gray222
11-24-2016, 02:24 PM
Have you ever wondered what the thought process would be in order to consider setting yourself on fire a good idea?

Me either.

hufnagel
11-24-2016, 02:28 PM
Have you ever wondered what the thought process would be in order to consider setting yourself on fire a good idea?

Me either.

I liken it to this...

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/087/996/gNVkN.png?1318992465

Lost River
11-24-2016, 02:51 PM
Let's see:

Hillary supporter throws tantrum.

Lights himself on fire.

Gets taken to a "Children's Hospital".

Oh, the Iron Knee.

Gray222
11-24-2016, 03:07 PM
I liken it to this...

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/087/996/gNVkN.png?1318992465

I like the one wearing a lifejacket shooting an AK...

RevolverRob
11-24-2016, 03:24 PM
Failing to see the problem here.

A Baby Boomer set himself on fire in protest and hopefully is removed from our system. Considering Baby Boomers are one of the primary reasons we have a shit financial situation governmentally and a massive government teat...I'm happy to see them taking it upon themselves to improve our overall welfare as a society.

hufnagel
11-24-2016, 04:32 PM
I like the one wearing a lifejacket shooting an AK...

http://i.imgur.com/DUpyj.png

I like his war face.

blues
11-24-2016, 04:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DUpyj.png

I like his war face.

He seemed more relaxed and I liked him better when he played in the NBA...

https://cbswcbsfm.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/81352141_8.jpg

Totem Polar
11-24-2016, 05:18 PM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BuwqdISNvn8/SGE-4u3CXlI/AAAAAAAAAHM/Ne8GqzohfLI/s400/rs002.jpg

okie john
11-24-2016, 05:26 PM
Man, 69, sets himself on fire in Highland Square moments after ranting about President-elect Trump

How do we get more of these folks to follow his lead?


Okie John

hufnagel
11-24-2016, 05:31 PM
How do we get more of these folks to follow his lead?


Okie John

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4376982/images/o-COLLEGE-STUDENT-HAND-CLASS-facebook.jpg

tell 'em if 1 million of them do it, Donald Trump will hand the election to Hillary. For the children.

easter egg: if anyone stares at the blonde, you're a pervert

Hambo
11-24-2016, 06:43 PM
Let's see:

Hillary supporter throws tantrum.

Lights himself on fire.

Gets taken to a "Children's Hospital".


That's the regional burn unit for adults and kids.

HCM
11-25-2016, 12:03 AM
I'm thinking this particular case is more a mental health issue.

RoyGBiv
11-25-2016, 12:37 AM
I'm thinking this particular case is more a mental health issue.
Progressivism?

Robert Mitchum
11-25-2016, 01:21 AM
How do we get more of these folks to follow his lead?


Okie John

I would love to see more liberals do this.. maybe a song might help get this going.

ARTHUR BROWN - FIRE ( 1968 )

https://youtu.be/zdLSfXnxahs

HCM
11-25-2016, 01:43 AM
Progressivism?

That too.

Glenn E. Meyer
11-25-2016, 11:07 AM
Person was suicidal for some reason and wanted to end his life. In some suicides, the person wants to make a statement about how they were mistreated to evoke guilt in people. Or they justify their suicide by thinking their gesture will change society to right some wrong. These are rationalizations for their death wish.

In some rampage shooters, they want to die but want to punish folks for the actions that drove them to the rampage. This will change society, so in their mind it is an act of altruism. Suicide by cop can be a mix of these motives.

They fantasize the reaction of people after their action and have observed the social outrage/sympathy/etc. from similar incidents - this motivates their actions in a form of vicarious reinforcement.

So one can chortle about this but without knowing the individual - it can quite possibly be a disturbed individual who acted out in this manner.

hufnagel
11-25-2016, 03:16 PM
Lighting ones self on fire pretty much confirms the "disturbed" component.

abu fitna
11-25-2016, 04:19 PM
Person was suicidal for some reason and wanted to end his life. In some suicides, the person wants to make a statement about how they were mistreated to evoke guilt in people. Or they justify their suicide by thinking their gesture will change society to right some wrong. These are rationalizations for their death wish.

In some rampage shooters, they want to die but want to punish folks for the actions that drove them to the rampage. This will change society, so in their mind it is an act of altruism. Suicide by cop can be a mix of these motives.

They fantasize the reaction of people after their action and have observed the social outrage/sympathy/etc. from similar incidents - this motivates their actions in a form of vicarious reinforcement.

So one can chortle about this but without knowing the individual - it can quite possibly be a disturbed individual who acted out in this manner.

Spot on assessmemt.

What concerns me most about these incidents is emotionally disturbed individuals reacting to what is essentially mere media input, no matter how slanted. (And the internet fever swamps can get very slanted indeed as we all know.).

The ability to spam dangerous ideas to a large auidence and count on some percentage reacting in a way that drives violent incidents is at the heart of so many of the problems we discuss here. Whether Daesh lone wolves / known wolves; BLM ideological cop killer ambush, or foreign fighter recruitment flow... now to this is added the fatal idea that some can react to an election they did not like through political violence.

Some percentage may do so through self harm. Others will be externally directed. And when those external orientations cannot realistically act against hard targets like the man himself, they may seek out vulnerable points and employ whatever capability they can muster that they believe will reach the threshold of media or other attention.

This could just have easily have been one of the old NTI scenarios had the actor just been influenced by the utoya targeting option, using only what he demonstrated here. Not a movie any of us want to be caught in as it plays out in their heads.

Duelist
11-25-2016, 09:40 PM
When I read this the other day, it reminded me of those monks in Tibet protesting the Chinese occupation.

Self-immolation seems a bit extreme, no matter what you are protesting.

Peally
11-26-2016, 12:15 AM
Seems like the whole issue sorted itself out what with the fire and all.

Wondering Beard
11-26-2016, 11:13 AM
When I read this the other day, it reminded me of those monks in Tibet protesting the Chinese occupation.

Self-immolation seems a bit extreme, no matter what you are protesting.

He was old enough to remember the Buddhist monks self immolating in Vietnam protesting the South Vietnamese Government (supported, for a while, by the Kennedy administration). Maybe that's what he had in mind.

rauchman
11-29-2016, 01:31 PM
As much as this sad to see, I really have to wonder sometimes if this nature's way of culling the herd....aka Darwinism.

Peally
11-29-2016, 01:53 PM
As much as this sad to see, I really have to wonder sometimes if this nature's way of culling the herd....aka Darwinism.

Burning yourself to death over something definitely qualifies for the derp award.

hufnagel
11-29-2016, 02:58 PM
ok I gotta ask...
did no one find the easter egg in my hand raising post?

Wondering Beard
11-29-2016, 04:39 PM
Didn't look until now.

The orange pen?

JackRock
11-29-2016, 05:03 PM
ok I gotta ask...
did no one find the easter egg in my hand raising post?


Didn't look until now.

The orange pen?

Well, there's an orange pen NEAR the subject of the easter egg.

And apparently I am one, Hufnagel. :D

hufnagel
11-29-2016, 07:58 PM
Well, there's an orange pen NEAR the subject of the easter egg.

And apparently I am one, Hufnagel. :D

https://media.giphy.com/media/D6WuLOKOpR2fK/giphy.gif