Flashlights in 2016

[Eastex]

What are you carrying? I'm looking at a Olight S1 Baton, any opinions on those? I currently have a Eagletac and I like it okay but the tail cap is rough as a cob and I like the look of the Olights magnetic tail cap. I've never used it for any tactical purposes but the daily utility of having a flashlight handy was really surprising to me.


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[Leroy Suggs]

I EDC the Fenix PD32. Check it out at the Fenix store.

[spinmove_]

I currently carry a Streamlight Stylus PRO. Currently looking for something significantly brighter that comes with a good sturdy pocket clip.

[Le Français]

I carry a Surefire LX2 (discontinued), which has a great user interface - press the momentary tailcap slightly for 15 lumens, and press further for 200. The clip is the weak point; it breaks too easily when it snags on a chair or vehicle seat.

My Fenix TK11 has worked very well also.

[blues]

For EDC...an Olight i3s EOS (1 x AAA) or Malkoff MDC 16650 Neutral depending on the day and needs. The Olight gives off .5, 20, and 80 lumens. The MDC provides 20, 100, 500 lumens.

For a tactical light, a Surefire 6z with a Malkoff M61 drop-in or a Surefire E2e with Malkoff E2 head. (These provide 325 lumens out the front for over an hour.)

[Sadmin]

Lenslight Mini TAD edition in Sequoia, Elzetta Mini CQB on rifle, Surefire on pistol. I have some Eagletacs in drawers that are super bright, unsure on durability.

[Randy Harris]

EDC - Surefire E2D LED Defender and Streamlight Micro Stream.

[ragnar_d]

Coast HP1 w/ Nitecore 14500 Li-Ion battery is my EDC light. Beam is comparable to my early E2DL without the CR123 price point for batteries.

Only gripe about the HP1 is the sliding head for making the beam go from flood to spot and back. Wish there was one like that that was like the spot only.

[breakingtime91]

I have a EB1 backup I have carried for years. It has help up good, the pocket clip can snag and bend but is easy enough to bend back. The thyrm works with it, which is nice to have for a number of reasons.

[BillSWPA]

Terralux TT1-EX (400 lumen) for pocket carry, or a Klarus XT2C (1,100 lumen) for belt carry. The new Klarus XT1C, with 400 lumens on CR123 or 700 lumens on 16340, is on order and should be in to the dealer soon.

I usually have a FourSevens MLR2 on my keychain but after a fee years of use, including multiple 3 foot drops, it is at FourSevens for warranty repair. Using a Titanium Innovations coin cell light on the keychain until I get it back, and this light does the vast majority of what I use a keychain light for.


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[Mr_White]

Can't say I am very aware of all the current options, but some months ago I did just move to a couple of new lights after using Streamlight PT 1 and 2 Ls for several years (which were just great.)

Currently using the Klarus XT2C as my primary light, pocket carried, and the Terralux TT1-EX as my keychain backup light. Very happy with both of them.

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[scott]

I carry either an eb1/eb2 with the momentary/twist switch, or a 4sevens quark tactical 2x123a cell(I bought 5 when I heard they had to change the switching because of the lawsuit).
I'm not very happy about the current state of the market, so I found what works and got a bunch of them.

[PearTree]

For edc off duty I carry the four seven preon p1. 100 lumens from a light that takes one AAA and is tiny is hard to beat.

[JCS]

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I've been carrying this protac 1 exclusively. It's a great size for an EDC but not sure how it fits into a "tactical" role. Their new protac models take aaa or cr123. I have that on my radar if I ever upgrade.

[davisj]

Elzetta Alpha.

There are 155 responses in this thread...some even stay on the topic of EDC flashlights. :cool:
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?19081-Looking-for-a-good-EDC-flashlight

[orionz06]

Can't say I am very aware of all the current options, but some months ago I did just move to a couple of new lights after using Streamlight PT 1 and 2 Ls for several years (which were just great.)

Currently using the Klarus XT2C as my primary light, pocket carried, and the Terralux TT1-EX as my keychain backup light. Very happy with both of them.

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I'm with Gabe, save for the Klarus may alternate with a Nitecore P10 as I have a few of each.


The new Klarus XT1C will be here tomorrow and as a single cell at 700 lumens with instant strobe, same as the Terralux and other Klarus/Nitecore a few of those may do the trick for me as well. Time will tell.

[Clusterfrack]

I'm using a Nitecore MT10C (https://amzn.com/B013GS9JGS) with an unprotected 18350 rechargeable. Up to 920 lumens in a 1 x CR123 size.
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[voodoo_man]

I am still carrying my streamlight protac 2aa (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GXF9OA) edc off duty. It's just perfectly what I want (a thin light that has enough lumens for daily use). Review is on my site...

For work I carry a streamlight stinger DS LED HL (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD9OKC6), its rechargeable.

Though I am leaning towards getting a usb chargeable flashlight I am just trying to figure out if I should pull the trigger on the streamlight version or give one of the china-brand types.

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I ended up with the streamlight pro tac 2aa also. I have to agree with VDM. It is perfect.
I am still carrying my streamlight protac 2aa (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003GXF9OA) edc off duty. It's just perfectly what I want (a thin light that has enough lumens for daily use). Review is on my site...

For work I carry a streamlight stinger DS LED HL (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BD9OKC6), its rechargeable.

Though I am leaning towards getting a usb chargeable flashlight I am just trying to figure out if I should pull the trigger on the streamlight version or give one of the china-brand types.

[blues]

The 2xAA light I leave downstairs in the basement for when I need to run into the workshop, garage or outside is a Malkoff MDC 2AA (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/products/mdc-ha-2aa-flashlight). It gives 3 settings of 3, 25 and 250 lumens.

[Leroy Suggs]

The Fenix PD32 I edc.
900 lms 1hr 55 min
400 lms 4 hr
150 lms 10 hr
50 lms 37 hr
5 lms 260 hr
on one 18650 battery tail clicky switch

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[Duelist]

I have a couple of good lights, but actually carry the Surefire 6P with an aftermarket LED head. Gives about 300 lumens or so.


I like my Fenix, mostly. But it's too long for the pocket, and the tail switch isn't bullet proof reliable, like the Surefire. Plus, the Surefire was NOS cheap - $30 for the incandescent, brand new light, and $15 or so for the LED head. The Fenix was like $90.

[OnionsAndDragons]

EDC it is a Four7s Preon2. I have a couple different ones from a special run with more powerful and white emitters. I replace the tail caps with Streamlight Microstream rubber caps. I hate the Preon clicky caps, they accidentally actuate way too often.

[Dropkick]

I've been carrying the TerraLux TT1-EX since December 2015, and I'm really happy with it. It rides nicely clipped in my front left pocket. Easy to manipulate with my weak hand, while having a pistol in my strong hand.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012V0K4AW/

Premium CREE LED, delivering a maximum output of 400 ANSI lumens; 3 Light modes plus strobe
Easy to use dual button tail-switch for quick, one-handed operation; Mode switch provides instant access to Strobe at all times
Requires 1 x CR123A

[Irelander]

I have been carrying a 4sevens Quark Tactical QTA since I won it in a Karma thread. Using an XTAR protected 14500 cell. I need to get the PRO head to give me burst mode.

Before this I was carrying a 4sevens Quark Tactical 123 which is a great light and now belongs to my wife.

[ssb]

Can't say I am very aware of all the current options, but some months ago I did just move to a couple of new lights after using Streamlight PT 1 and 2 Ls for several years (which were just great.)

What's the point of the rubber band on the Klarus?

[oldtexan]

I carry either a Surefire P2X Fury, or a Surefire C2L fitted with a Malkoff M61 LED, which is rated at about 325 lumens.

[ragnar_d]

Not to add any thread drift, has anyone had any experience with high lumen (500+), single stage (not programmable), 18650 powered light? Bonus points if it's a 1" body/tube

[Paul Sharp]

What are you carrying? I'm looking at a Olight S1 Baton, any opinions on those? I currently have a Eagletac and I like it okay but the tail cap is rough as a cob and I like the look of the Olights magnetic tail cap. I've never used it for any tactical purposes but the daily utility of having a flashlight handy was really surprising to me.


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At work, I've been using the Klaus XT12 - 930 lumens for a little over a year or so. I really like it, the ability to charge it using a USB was a big plus. When not at work I've been using the Klaus XT1C XP-G. The only downside to the XT1C is it's not rechargeable.

I have zero experience with the Olight S1 Baton.

[Malamute]

I have a couple of good lights, but actually carry the Surefire 6P with an aftermarket LED head. Gives about 300 lumens or so.


I like my Fenix, mostly. But it's too long for the pocket, and the tail switch isn't bullet proof reliable, like the Surefire. Plus, the Surefire was NOS cheap - $30 for the incandescent, brand new light, and $15 or so for the LED head. The Fenix was like $90.

What aftermarket LED head are you using? Id like to upgrade my incan 6P, Nitrolon and the E2E.

[BillSWPA]

What aftermarket LED head are you using? Id like to upgrade my incan 6P, Nitrolon and the E2E.

Dropins for the 6P and Nitrolon below. For the Nitrolon, get one of the low output dropins, since polymer does not conduct heat away from the dropin as well as aluminum.

https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/surefire-drop-ins-for-6p-g2-c2-etc-6-9-volts

For the E2E:

https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/surefire-drop-ins-for-e1-e2-and-scout-lights/products/e2-scout-m600-2-3-cr123-head

I have a 6Z and G2Z with the M61 dropins (M61L in the G2Z) and the E2/Scout head on my E2E, and all work well.

[Malamute]

Cool. Thank you.

[Duelist]

What aftermarket LED head are you using? Id like to upgrade my incan 6P, Nitrolon and the E2E.

My daughter's G2 has a Surefire 150-ish LED in it that replaced the original incan head. My 6P, I bought a Cree LED head from an eBay vendor because it was cheap and I wanted to see if I could put together a super-cheap, high powered carry light together. It works really well, but I can't remember which vendor was selling it.

If it stops working, or i decide to upgrade, I'll probably start shopping Malkoff.

[That Guy]

What are you carrying? I'm looking at a Olight S1 Baton, any opinions on those?

The Olight S1 Baton is an excellent utility light. It is entirely unsuitable for any kind of defensive or tactical use, but as long as that doesn't matter it is one of the neatest lights I've ever owned.

My EDC light is an older Klarus XT1C. I actually got it for low light IDPA use, intending to use an entirely different light for daily carry. But this thing turned out to be much better in that role as well. My only gripes are: a) In order to get to a low output mode you first have to turn the light on in high output mode. I understand why they made it that way, but for daily use it's just a tad inconvenient. No biggie. b) If you hold down the strobe button for a few seconds, it stays on when you let go of the button. This feature is not documented anywhere. I find that to be very irritating. Fortunately I don't really use the strobe much.

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(The rubber band is there for use with a handgun - like I said, my original use for this light was low light shooting. Being left handed, I find the cigar grip works well for me, as long as the light is narrow enough. The older 1" diameter lights were really awkward, but this little guy fits my hand really well.)

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[Casual Friday]

I don't like busy switches, and I'm only interested in all the lumens with a momentary on clicky switch. I've been using Streamlight Polytac LED's for daily use since around 2009 or so. I have several, PSA was selling them on Black Friday a few years ago for $20 with batteries so I bought 5 more. I have one in each vehicle, and a couple around the house, and a couple out in my shop. Being plastic, they are pretty lightweight for a light their size. The only downside is they're only 150 lumens, the older ones are only 100 lumens I think, so if you have to have moar lumenz there's better choices. I was told I'd break them because I'm the reason we can't have nice things, but I haven't yet.

I have a couple Surefire 6P's, the Defender doesn't get carried because it's the Trijicon HD's of flashlights, it tears holes in clothing, it resides in an IWC mount on my home deefense carbeen. The 6P's are really good lights, but I can't say that I would pay retail for them.

[Casey]

Not to add any thread drift, has anyone had any experience with high lumen (500+), single stage (not programmable), 18650 powered light? Bonus points if it's a 1" body/tube
Malkoff Devices M61HOT MD2 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-led-flashlights/products/m61hot-md2). Love this light. High-low is optional, but if you elect for it, you switch outputs from high to low by loosening the bezel 1/4 turn. It's genius. Leave it snug and you'll always get max output from the tailcap. Takes 2x CR123 or a 18650.

[Clusterfrack]

I was at a party last night, and started feeling like my ass was really hot. Somehow my Nitecore MT10C got turned on. That "hot" warning is for real.

[ragnar_d]

Malkoff Devices M61HOT MD2 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-led-flashlights/products/m61hot-md2). Love this light. High-low is optional, but if you elect for it, you switch outputs from high to low by loosening the bezel 1/4 turn. It's genius. Leave it snug and you'll always get max output from the tailcap. Takes 2x CR123 or a 18650.

This looks promising. Was looking like at a Nitecore P20 and P10, but I'm leary of programmable lights on rifles. one momentary/clicky switch and no modes.

[H&KFanNC]

I carry a Streamlight ProTac 2L. It works well for an all-around pocket light.


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[Mr_White]

What's the point of the rubber band on the Klarus?

It lets me use the Rogers/syringe technique if I want. I don't typically use a flashlight that way, but it's easy to put the rubber band on there and have the option.

[blues]

It lets me use the Rogers/syringe technique if I want. I don't typically use a flashlight that way, but it's easy to put the rubber band on there and have the option.

Exactly why I still use my Surefire 6z with the Malkoff drop-in. I can use it with the Rogers technique or any of a handful of others appropriate to the circumstances. My first good tactical light and still useful after all these years.

[BobM]

Exactly why I still use my Surefire 6z with the Malkoff drop-in. I can use it with the Rogers technique or any of a handful of others appropriate to the circumstances. My first good tactical light and still useful after all these years.

I won one of those in a drawing at a sniper school several years ago. I put a Malkoff in it a year or so ago and carry it daily. It's bulkier than I'd like for an EDC light but totally dependable.

[blues]

I won one of those in a drawing at a sniper school several years ago. I put a Malkoff in it a year or so ago and carry it daily. It's bulkier than I'd like for an EDC light but totally dependable.

Good stuff, Bob. Mine is relegated to nightstand duty alongside the G19 as I have other lights for EDC...but like you say, it's a workhorse.

[ubervic]

Streamlight ProTac 1L

[BillSWPA]

My new Klarus XT1C arrived today.

Pros:

1) Very small - good for carry in a pocket that also contains keys, possibly a spare magazine for the gun in a strong side pocket, change, and a knife clipped to the top.

2) The switch appears rather well protected from accidental activation in a pocket. We'll see how it works in practice.

3) The clip is the first useful pocket clip I have seen from Klarus.

4) Impressively bright, especially for its size.

Cons

1) A little too small for 100% comfortable use.

2) The main switch is a clicky without a momentary on option. It is either off or constant on. Something resembling momentary on requires quick simultaneous clicks of the switch.

This is also the first time I am using 16340 in a 1xCR123 sized light. I have previously used 16650 and 18650 in 2xCR123 lights, and replacing two CR123 with 1 Li-Ion increases the runtime. However replacing a single CR123 with a single 16340 reduces the runtime. Stated runtime on a 16340 is long enough that I thought it would still be worth trying. We'll see how it goes. At least my worst case scenario is likely recharging and switching cells frequently.

[kobuksonhwacha]

I'm with Gabe, save for the Klarus may alternate with a Nitecore P10 as I have a few of each.

Do you think there's any particular reason to go with the Nitecore over the Klarus? I had an older generation XT2C up through the beginning of the year and loved it, but the rubber tail cap cover worked loose and I never got around to replacing it. Seems like the new paddle design on both would fix that.

[Blades]

Do you think there's any particular reason to go with the Nitecore over the Klarus? I had an older generation XT2C up through the beginning of the year and loved it, but the rubber tail cap cover worked loose and I never got around to replacing it. Seems like the new paddle design on both would fix that.

Klarus has the newest LED(CREE XP-L HI V3). Nitecore has the three different modes(Tactical, Law Enforcement, General). No reason to pick one over the other beside preference.

[jeep45238]

Same old 2xAA FourSevens flashlight I've had for years for daily use. Twist head, no clicks, no buttons, 3 brightness settings (and those crazy things you get). Simple, cheap, thin, light, effective, and not likely to break for years. I like them more than mini-mags with LED's onboard.

I think it's the M2A now, though higher lumens than what mine is rated at (180). http://www.foursevens.com/products/M2A-AE

[Blades]

Currently using the Klarus XT2C as my primary light, pocket carried, and the Terralux TT1-EX as my keychain backup light.

What pocket do you carry your Klarus XT2C? Cargo, front, or back pocket? I assume the split rings hang out of your pocket.

[BillSWPA]

After less than a week of carrying the new XT1C, minimal use, and one accidental activation in my pocket, the 16340 is already down to 3.6 v. This is definitely not a light for anyone who is not familiar with Li-Ion and who would be unlikely to check and charge cells frequently. Of course, as long as it is checked frequently, the ability to use rechargeable cells keeps the cost down even if they have to be swapped and charged frequently.

[secondstoryguy]

Although I love my 4sevens I've been carrying the new Streamlight 1L-1AA. It's a great little light that can run off 1 AA or one 123 battery(no parts to add when switching over, it's has a spring loaded sleeve inside it) and is plenty bright for its size(350 lumens with a 123).

[Sasage]

Although I love my 4sevens I've been carrying the new Streamlight 1L-1AA. It's a great little light that can run off 1 AA or one 123 battery(no parts to add when switching over, it's has a spring loaded sleeve inside it) and is plenty bright for its size(350 lumens with a 123).
Gonna snag one of these one my 2L bites the dust.

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[voodoo_man]

Decides to buy the protac hl USB charging jobber off Amazon. $100 for it, figure I'd try it out.

[SD]

EDC since Oct. 2014. Gerber Cortex Compact. For years I carried a Surefire Outdoor (EL1). I gave it to the wife to carry in her purse when she moved out of State. Went shopping for single battery 123/AA replacement. Found this at Gander MNT. Has a CREE XPG-RG led puts out about 125 lumens on high. Paid on sale around $48.00 including tax. I now prefer it over the Surefire. One con I have had a couple of accidental "holy crap my pocket is on fire" incidents. Because of the extension tube for the bigger battery it's not as simple giving it a quarter turn lock out that you find on some of the other brands. For those that care it is Made in USA. 11403

[JCS]

I put my Streamlight protac 1l through a(n) (accidental) torture test. I left it in my pants pocket through a wash and dry cycle. It spent about 30 mins in the dryer on high before I heard a loud clanging. I opened up the dryer to find I had left it in my pocket. It was too hot to touch. After letting it cool down for awhile I was surprised to find it still worked.

[johnson]

Currently carry older generation FourSevens QTL (1xCR123) or QT2L (2xCR123) and I don't notice the size difference between the two while in pocket. When at the park I have an incandescent SureFire M6 with either MN15 (~200 lumen) or MN21 (500 lumen) lamp assembly for the extra throw and 10x better color rendition compared to cold LED lighting.

[BillSWPA]

Currently carry older generation FourSevens QTL (1xCR123) or QT2L (2xCR123) and I don't notice the size difference between the two while in pocket. When at the park I have an incandescent SureFire M6 with either MN15 (~200 lumen) or MN21 (500 lumen) lamp assembly for the extra throw and 10x better color rendition compared to cold LED lighting.

I suggest trying the QT2L on a single Keeppower 16650 Li-Ion cell. These cells are about 2 mm. less in diameter than the more common 18650, which will not fit in the QT2L. You will not notice any difference in brightness, but you may get better runtime and will definitely save money by running a rechargeable cell.

[johnson]

I suggest trying the QT2L on a single Keeppower 16650 Li-Ion cell. These cells are about 2 mm. less in diameter than the more common 18650, which will not fit in the QT2L. You will not notice any difference in brightness, but you may get better runtime and will definitely save money by running a rechargeable cell.

I don't use flashlights/primaries enough to justify going rechargeable since I get over at least a couple months use with a set of batteries. They're usually a backup to a Lumintop 2aa pen light unless I'm out and about at night which hasn't been often recently.

[johnson]

25% off Klarus for Black Friday. The XT1C (1x16340 or 1xCR123A) is $40.

http://goinggear.com/index.php/new?manufacturer=1296&utm_source=Black+Friday+Preview+20161121&utm_campaign=Black+Friday+Day+0+20161121

[BillSWPA]

Battery Junction has the XT1C and XT2C on sale.

[SLG]

I didn't read the thread.

I'm currently using a Streamlight ProTac 2L. Very happy with it. I've been a hardcore Surefire fan my whole adult life. A few of you gave me a nice gift some years ago, and I still use that 4Sevens as well. For now though, the Streamlight has replaced my Surefire. We'll see if it lasts.

[Cypher]

Fenix UC35 Rechargeable LED Flashlight - Fenix-Store (http://www.fenix-store.com/fenix-uc35-rechargeable-led-flashlight/?gclid=CNH9wNuD_ssCFQEJaQodUWQDHQ)

Fenix UC 35 This is the light that I carry at work, It's the only light I have that doesn't run on AAs (It runs on 2 CR123s or a rechargeable 18650 battery) but it IS rechargeable and it charges through a USB port which means I can recharge it with my phone charger at work if I need to.

It has 5 brightness levels and a strobe (that I never use)

14 lumens
50 lumens
180 lumens
480 lumens
960 lumens

This light "remembers" the last setting you put it on so I keep it on turbo and step it down if I need to.
According to the website it will run an hour and a half on "Turbo but since I almost never leave it on full for more than a minute or two I usually only have to recharge it twice a week or so.

It's also regulated so it will run evenly until it hits about 30% charge then it steps down to the 180 lumens setting. It also light a red warning light to let you know it's time to charge.

Cost 89(ish)

http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix...FYSAaQodB1UFGQ

As a back up or when I'm not at work I carry a Fenix E12. This the light I carried when I was working straight days and occasionally asked to stay over after dark. It has 3 settings 8 lumens, 50 lumens and 130 lumens. It runs off of 1 AA battery which is widely available and its small enough to fit in my pocket. Now that I'm working straight nights it's my back up. The one drawback to this light is that it doesn't "remember" the setting so you turn it on at the lowest setting and you have to click it up and sometimes you turn it off.

Cost 25 (ish)

[rob_s]

I carry the little Protac 1aaa light for work.

Odds>stakes

[23JAZ]

I'm liking this little guy. 350 lumens on 1 CR123 and just a tad smaller than my Protac 2L. Also takes AA batteries in a pinch.
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[Peally]

Still using an LED upgraded Surefire 6P, because I'm a cheap bastard.

[WobblyPossum]

Has anyone tried a Klarus XT2C as a WML on a carbine? I use one as an edc light and love it. The newer ones have even more powerful LEDs in them so the sale at Battery Junction is tempting. 1100 lumens is a little much for an edc light but it would be pretty nice as a wml. I would like to know if they're rugged enough to take the recoil though.


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[Chef]

Currently carry either a 4/7's mini or a maratac copper aaa. Both are twist activated and I am not too happy- had an incident that I needed to identify someone RFN and the twist proved cumbersome one handed. I just ordered a FENIX E12 today. $28 shipped ain't too bad


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[orionz06]

Still using an LED upgraded Surefire 6P, because I'm a cheap bastard.

Someone is using one on an 870 with a tape switch. I'll see if I can't get them to post here.

[Cypher]

Currently carry either a 4/7's mini or a maratac copper aaa. Both are twist activated and I am not too happy- had an incident that I needed to identify someone RFN and the twist proved cumbersome one handed. I just ordered a FENIX E12 today. $28 shipped ain't too bad


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The only thing I don't like about the E12 is it doesn't "remember" it's last setting and you can turn it off trying to turn it up.

[ragnar_d]

Has anyone tried a Klarus XT2C as a WML on a carbine? I use one as an edc light and love it. The newer ones have even more powerful LEDs in them so the sale at Battery Junction is tempting. 1100 lumens is a little much for an edc light but it would be pretty nice as a wml. I would like to know if they're rugged enough to take the recoil though.


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I've been thinking about trying one of those or a Nitecore P10/P12/P20 for a weaponlight. I just don't like lights that are programmable or have modes for a WML application. After doing a night time 2-gun match, that solidified my decision. Too much chance that the program will go to the wrong mode at the wrong time.

[BillSWPA]

My understanding is that, in general, you want a spring on either side of the battery in a weapon mounted light, not just one side. Probably matters a lot less on an AR than a 12 gauge. The XT11 is similar in operation to the XT2C, a bit bigger, and if I recall correctly, has this feature.



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[ragnar_d]

My understanding is that, in general, you want a spring on either side of the battery in a weapon mounted light, not just one side.

Yes, you'd definitely want something like that. At the same 2-gun match I was at there was a shooter on my squad with a 3D cell Maglite zip tied and gaffer taped to an M1 Garand. Every time he pulled the trigger the light blinked off for about half a second.

[WobblyPossum]

Thanks for the info guys!


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[Schmetallurgy]

Surefire EB1 with the discontinued (why?) tactical switch and a Thyrm ring. Only issue is the Thyrm ring prevents the tailcap from screwing down far enough to activate constant High mode, but that's not a big enough deal to outweigh the benefits.

[NH Shooter]

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/qta-7.jpg

For EDC, still this one: Quark QT2L-X, 780 lumens in burst mode on a 14500 (AA size) battery.

For my lightweight carbine I use a Malkoff MD2 with the M61T Head (350 lumens, TIR optic) in a Vltor mount for easy on/off mounting (to be able to use the light both on and off the rifle);

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/wml-1.jpg

[SLG]

Still really like my Protac 2l, but I have been using the HL instead for the last week or so. Much bigger, but still easy to carry. VERY impressive brightness and throw.

Also playing with an Eagletac P200LC2 and a Klarus XT2C. The Eagletac may be the best all around yet.

I have a Protac 1L 1AA coming, as well as some others.

Hard to go wrong with any of them (unless you're in fog or smoke), but the brighter ones are definitely a benefit for me.

[Paltares8]

Anybody have any opinions on Thorfire's stuff? I got one of their lights on sale for $20 that came with a charger for the 18650 battery and some extra parts for it(clicky nuttin thing, belt holster, pocket clip, etc.) 847 max lumens. Seems ok so far, but I've only had it a few days. I do end up using my lights quite a bit throughout the day, so if it's likely to crap out on me I may just throw it in the glove box and get a different one for edc.

[Chefdog]

I'm liking this little guy. 350 lumens on 1 CR123 and just a tad smaller than my Protac 2L. Also takes AA batteries in a pinch.
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I just bought one of these as well to replace an OLD Nitecore defender that still is a very solid and simple 2AA light. But the Protac is just better. 350 lumens in a nice wide, even spill that's great for a pocket light for my uses, perfect size, good clip and the dual battery capability is a useful feature. I'll probably buy another just because.
I also have a Klarus XT2C (slightly older version with "only" 5-600 lumens) that works well for nightstand/household use. I like the 3 output levels and the dual tailcap switch for using as a general purpose light around the house, but for me it's a bit busy for a pocket light. I like the streamlight switch (and the nitecore for that matter) better for a pocket light.

We just recently moved onto almost 10 acres sandwiched between a few farms , so I've been looking for a light with some more punch for seeing at distance outdoors. I just bought a Streamlight Polytac HP to try out since the reflector is designed for maximum throw and it claims to have a 275m beam with only a 275 Lm output. Anyone have experience with this light? I considered the Protac HL (750 lm, 270m throw) or even the HL3 (1100lm 350m throw) since they seem to have all the lumens. But I'm curious as to whether the reflector shape/style or just the pure horsepower have a greater impact on seeing stuff at distance outside? I know lots of you guys have searched for people outside at night and may have some useful insight. To boil it down, will the HL lights be superior given their output advantage or will the HP be comparable due to the specialized reflector despite 1/3-1/4 the total output?

The Polytac lights, besides being inexpensice and available in yellow (I have a bad habit of setting stuff down outside) have solid state electronics which they say regulates the output to maintain constant lumens throughout battery life, which seems like a very useful feature. I can almost watch the XT2C's output fade after a few minutes with a fresh battery. Anyone know if the Protac HL or HL3 hold their output any better than the klarus? Or is that just the way it is with the super high output lights?

To confuse myself further, how does the candela, or beam intensity play into the lumens/throw equation? The HP light (275 lumen) actually has more candelas than the 750 lumen HL light?

[rob_s]

We just recently moved onto almost 10 acres sandwiched between a few farms , so I've been looking for a light with some more punch for seeing at distance outdoors. I just bought a Streamlight Polytac HP to try out since the reflector is designed for maximum throw and it claims to have a 275m beam with only a 275 Lm output. Anyone have experience with this light? I considered the Protac HL (750 lm, 270m throw) or even the HL3 (1100lm 350m throw) since they seem to have all the lumens. But I'm curious as to whether the reflector shape/style or just the pure horsepower have a greater impact on seeing stuff at distance outside? I know lots of you guys have searched for people outside at night and may have some useful insight. To boil it down, will the HL lights be superior given their output advantage or will the HP be comparable due to the specialized reflector despite 1/3-1/4 the total output?

The Polytac lights, besides being inexpensice and available in yellow (I have a bad habit of setting stuff down outside) have solid state electronics which they say regulates the output to maintain constant lumens throughout battery life, which seems like a very useful feature. I can almost watch the XT2C's output fade after a few minutes with a fresh battery. Anyone know if the Protac HL or HL3 hold their output any better than the klarus? Or is that just the way it is with the super high output lights?

To confuse myself further, how does the candela, or beam intensity play into the lumens/throw equation? The HP light (275 lumen) actually has more candelas than the 750 lumen HL light?

I'm on 1.25 acres, so much smaller than your lot, but I love my Polytac HP! And, I also like that it comes in yellow for the same reasons.

I've bought a ton of the ProPolymer Streamlights and scattered them around because of the "normal" batteries they take. I have an easy half dozen of the 2AA (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-67101-ProPolymer-Battery-Powered-Flashlight/dp/B0012S62JC/ref=sr_1_9?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580429&sr=1-9&keywords=streamlight+aa), 2-3 of the 4AA (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-68201-ProPolymer-Flashlight-Yellow/dp/B00069PJLA/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580429&sr=1-11&keywords=streamlight+aa), and am considering a couple of the 3C (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-33202-ProPolymer-C-Cell-Flashlight/dp/B00008BFS9/ref=sr_1_15?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580476&sr=1-15&keywords=streamlight+propolymer) for th elonger runtime. They don't appear to be as drop-proof as the Polytacs though as I've had a couple of the 2AA stop working, strangely after the kids have been using them as toys.

[Chefdog]

I'm on 1.25 acres, so much smaller than your lot, but I love my Polytac HP! And, I also like that it comes in yellow for the same reasons.

I've bought a ton of the ProPolymer Streamlights and scattered them around because of the "normal" batteries they take. I have an easy half dozen of the 2AA (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-67101-ProPolymer-Battery-Powered-Flashlight/dp/B0012S62JC/ref=sr_1_9?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580429&sr=1-9&keywords=streamlight+aa), 2-3 of the 4AA (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-68201-ProPolymer-Flashlight-Yellow/dp/B00069PJLA/ref=sr_1_11?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580429&sr=1-11&keywords=streamlight+aa), and am considering a couple of the 3C (https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-33202-ProPolymer-C-Cell-Flashlight/dp/B00008BFS9/ref=sr_1_15?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1484580476&sr=1-15&keywords=streamlight+propolymer) for th elonger runtime. They don't appear to be as drop-proof as the Polytacs though as I've had a couple of the 2AA stop working, strangely after the kids have been using them as toys.

Thanks for the reply rob, I appreciate it. Kid tested durability is always a factor to consider around here as well.

[Inebriated]

I'm carrying a Surefire Sidekick for utility stuff, an EB1T for gun stuff.

Never been happier with a carry combo. I might grab myself an EB2, I like the performance a lot, but it's so difficult to give up the size of the EB1.

Anyone know if an EB1 "tactical" switch will work on an EB2?

[Dropkick]

Flashlights in 2017...
Streamlight released a few new products this week:
http://www.streamlight.com/products/explore-products/new-products

[Chefdog]

Flashlights in 2017...
Streamlight released a few new products this week:
http://www.streamlight.com/products/explore-products/new-products

Damnit man! Just when I thought it was safe to place an order for a Nitecore P12GT you have to show me this! The HL-X is almost exactly the same light for all practicals purposes. Virtually identical power and beam figures, both takes 123's or 18650, both trusted brands. Anyone have good reason to choose Streamlight over Nitecore ($15 cheaper) all else being equal?

[rob_s]

Flashlights in 2017...
Streamlight released a few new products this week:
http://www.streamlight.com/products/explore-products/new-products

The Dualie line looks very interesting, price depending.

[WobblyPossum]

The Protac Rail Mount XL-X looks pretty good. I need a couple of rifle lights.


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[ford.304]

I use the Olight S1 and love it. I wouldn't use it as a dedicated tactical light, but I'm planning on the "leave it on and index hold" anyway which it will do just fine. I would recommend going for the rechargeable one for the higher output and not having to order more CR123A's. I do use my constantly.

[BillSWPA]

Flashlights in 2017...
Streamlight released a few new products this week:
http://www.streamlight.com/products/explore-products/new-products

I would love to see some holster makers offering some Kydex IWB models for TLR-6 equipped guns as well as perhaps a DeSantis Superfly or other pocket holster for guns so equipped.

[SLG]

I would love to see some holster makers offering some Kydex IWB models for TLR-6 equipped guns as well as perhaps a DeSantis Superfly or other pocket holster for guns so equipped.

JM can do that right now.

[SLG]

The streamlight 2LX and HLX both look really good. I'm going to get them to mess with. I imagine they will replace my current ones, the 2L and HL.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

JM can do that right now.

SLG I've been using Tony since Pat (RIP brother) sent me there in 2011 but I'm UNC @ this time if Tony is still doing light holders.

Stated as a close friend/fellow LFer like me emailed him about one for his EAG Fury & his response is below.

" I don’t make light pouches at this time. Thanks

John “Tony” Mayer

JM Custom Kydex "

So w/ Tony not an option, my bud elected to buy one from Brian @ KyTex for $20. shipping included.

[SLG]

SLG I've been using Tony since Pat (RIP brother) sent me there in 2011 but I'm UNC @ this time if Tony is still doing light holders.

Stated as a close friend/fellow LFer like me emailed him about one for his EAG Fury & his response is below.

" I don’t make light pouches at this time. Thanks

John “Tony” Mayer

JM Custom Kydex "

So w/ Tony not an option, my bud elected to buy one from Brian @ KyTex for $20. shipping included.

Bill was asking about an IWB holster to accommodate the TLR6. I know for a fact that JMCustom can do those.

As far as light pouches go, of course it depends on the light as there are so many, but Rich at CCC has always made my light holders and has done an excellent job. You may have to send your light to him if he doesn't have it, but he has quite a few, and does great work.

[Carnifex]

What's the consensus on Nitecore lights? I never carried a flashlight before but am thinking about picking one up.

[blues]

What's the consensus on Nitecore lights? I never carried a flashlight before but am thinking about picking one up.

I've had an excellent experience the past few months with a Nitecore HC30 (http://flashlight.nitecore.com/product/hc30) headlamp which can do double duty as a handheld or clip-on light. (I use it twice nightly when taking the dog out in a wooded environment.)

Mine is the neutral white version. I only need to recharge every few weeks. Judging by the performance of this light I'd not hesitate to use one of their other products. (Though most all of my other lights are Surefire or Malkoffs.)

Edited to add:

I also get good performance from a pair of Nitecore chargers as well as the one 16650 Nitecore battery in my rotation.

[BillSWPA]

Bill was asking about an IWB holster to accommodate the TLR6. I know for a fact that JMCustom can do those.

As far as light pouches go, of course it depends on the light as there are so many, but Rich at CCC has always made my light holders and has done an excellent job. You may have to send your light to him if he doesn't have it, but he has quite a few, and does great work.

The CCC light pouch is really nice in that it takes up very little real estate on a belt. As I type this, I am wearing one to carry a Klarus XT2C. The 1" diameter size works quite well for this light. I believe he offers one other standard size, as well as custom sizing.

The one caution would be not leaving the pouch in a hot car with the light in the pouch. This WILL ruin the retention, an issue I have not had with other Kydex gear. Rich fixed my pouch for free when I made this mistake even though it was my fault. These pouches are inexpensive enough that having more than one is probably wise.

[BillSWPA]

JM can do that right now.

Good to know. Holster availability is probably the single biggest limiting factor re: weapon mounted lights, and I like the fact that JM offers a 10 degree cant option.

I completely agree with your previous post re: the usefulness or lack thereof regarding weapon mounted lights. I always have a handheld light on my person if I am carrying a gun, and that light is more capable than anything I could reasonably conceal mounted to the gun. As non-military, non-LEO, if I have a reason to search something outside of my own home, there are strong reasons to have my gun holstered, and if I really expect to find what I am looking for, calling the police and letting them do it would be wiser. So, for me a WML is a low priority but a nice option to have if I am not compromising something else to have it.

I am at least as interested in the laser as the light. I removed the Crimson Trace LaserGrip from my G26 shortly after I installed it for exactly the reasons you describe in your post. Even though the Crimson Trace lasers work for me on a few other guns, it compromises my grip on a Glock. Since I wear glasses, which could be lost or damaged in a situation that prompts the need for a gun, having that alternative sighting system could be helpful. Even though the activation is not as convenient as Crimson Trace, having the laser without messing up my grip would be nice.

[Irelander]

What's the consensus on Nitecore lights? I never carried a flashlight before but am thinking about picking one up.

I had a MT26 that I was very pleased with but I sold it to fund....something. Wish I still had it.

[ragnar_d]

Flashlights in 2017...
Streamlight released a few new products this week:
http://www.streamlight.com/products/explore-products/new-productsSince I've been on a quest to remove the CR123 lights from my inventory, the Dual Fuel 18650/CR123 models are exactly what I've been looking for. I've been pondering a Nitecore P12 or Streamlight ProTac HL USB as a new EDC light, but the ProTac 2L-X is up at the top right now. As it is right now, before the end of the year, the only CR123 lights I'll have will be my X300s and an older Surefire G2 (halogen) that I keep around for really foggy nights.


The Dualie line looks very interesting, price depending.

I asked Streamlight about pricing and availability and this was the reply I got via social media (believe this was MSRP, but I forgot to ask):


HL-X is $200, available end of March; 2LX is $85, available mid-February; headlamp is $145 or $155 depending on the model and will be available in April. Hope this helps!

Given the MSRP vs. Street Price of their other lights, things are looking pretty good on that front.

EDIT: I might have gotten the Dual Fuel mixed up with the Dualie models in your post. Disregard if that is the case.


The Protac Rail Mount XL-X looks pretty good. I need a couple of rifle lights.


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Yup, I'm looking at those instead of Scout Lights I was looking at, big bonus that the ProTac rail mounts take Scout mounts. I'm a Surefire fanboy, but they're falling behind (IMO) on the rechargeable front.

[Chefdog]

...a 4sevens quark tactical 2x123a cell(I bought 5 when I heard they had to change the switching because of the lawsuit).
I'm not very happy about the current state of the market, so I found what works and got a bunch of them.

If you could elaborate on the features 4sevens had to eliminate due to Surefire's lawsuit? I couldn't find any trustworthy explanation as to what's missing on the later (current) versions that make them less desirable for this role. I'm liking the Protac 1L-AA I just bought, but the 2x123 quark lights are barely a 1/4" longer with the benefit of twice the capacity in a light barely 1/4" longer. But I don't want to buy one of the new ones if it's flawed in some way not obvious to me.

[Chefdog]

A little PSA for my fellow flashlight addicts: Foursevens still has NOS QP2L-X lights on eBay for $25. I just got two and have to agree with all of you who praise this light, it's awesome. Perfect size-output ratio and great switching for a "tactical" light that also excels at utility tasks. With a 16650, no need to burn up all of your 123's either.
Also, Armytek has some pretty good deals on their site right now. Just received one of their Viking V3 lights for $55 right off their website. It seems to be a VERY well built light. We'll see how it holds up over time, but for an outdoor/camping/hiking light it seems like a good fit. 50m waterproof, 30m impact resistance should be enough to stand up anything I can do.

[ragnar_d]

I asked Streamlight about pricing and availability and this was the reply I got via social media (believe this was MSRP, but I forgot to ask):

HL-X is $200, available end of March; 2LX is $85, available mid-February; headlamp is $145 or $155 depending on the model and will be available in April. Hope this helps!

Given the MSRP vs. Street Price of their other lights, things are looking pretty good on that front.
They finally dropped on LAPG, I'm liking what I'm seeing here for street price:
Streamlight ProTac 2L X Flashlight, $54.99 (http://www.lapolicegear.com/st-88063-protac-2lx.html)
Streamlight ProTac HL X Flashlight, $89.99 (http://www.lapolicegear.com/st-88065-protac-hlx.html)
Streamlight ProTac Railmount HL X Long Gun Light, $119.99 (http://www.lapolicegear.com/st-88066-protac-railmount.html)

Soon as the cash is available, a couple Railmount HL X and 2L X/HL X lights will be in my hands. Already have the 18650 batteries waiting for them.

[punkey71]

A little PSA for my fellow flashlight addicts: Foursevens still has NOS QP2L-X lights on eBay for $25. I just got two and have to agree with all of you who praise this light, it's awesome. Perfect size-output ratio and great switching for a "tactical" light that also excels at utility tasks. With a 16650, no need to burn up all of your 123's either.


I have several of these already - using 16650s - and I just grabbed 2 more when I saw your post.

FYI, if you want 2 they accepted my offer of $20 each for 2. Charged $7.50 shipping but $47.50 delivered for the pair is hard to argue with.

They had about 20 left an hour or so ago.


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[secondstoryguy]

I've been using the new Streamlight Protac-1L-AAA light since it came out and I'm still liking it. It's been through the wash twice so it's defiantly weather resistant...

[blues]

For those of you who may be looking for good deals on lights, this site (http://www.andrew-amanda.com/) was brought up on another forum. I have no direct experience with them but their constantly updated "deal of the day" (http://www.andrew-amanda.com/catalog/dealoftheday/) is worth a look if you may be in the market.

[Crashpad]

I've been using the new Streamlight Protac-1L-AAA light since it came out and I'm still liking it....

Same here.
I used a PT2L before and may switch back to the new PT2L-X version because of the lumen bump, it accepts rechargeable 18650s and it has the same clip the PT1L-AA has which improves the way it rides in a pocket.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Same here.
I used a PT2L before and may switch back to the new PT2L-X version because of the lumen bump, it accepts rechargeable 18650s and it has the same clip the PT1L-AA has which improves the way it rides in a pocket.

I just got a PT1L-1AA to use while my PT2L is going back to the mothership to have the cracked lens replaced....for the 2nd time.
More lumens, 1/2 the battery expense, and slightly smaller form factor. When the 2L gets back it may well take the backup role.

The -X series look nice, but they don't appear to be available just yet. I'm really liking the idea of the rail mount version.

[Crashpad]

Brightguy.com is showing it as available sometime this month (that is where I purchased my PT1L-AA) and GT Distributors told me that they are expecting the 2L-X to show up late March or April.

[Mirolynmonbro]

Is there another small like that works with the thrym? Something 1AA or 1L?

The thrym doesn't work with my Klarus xt2c so it probably won't work with the XT1C 😫

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[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Just saw that BrightGuy.com has the new SF E1B (5/400 lmn) Backup MaxVision in stock, MSRP is $220. & selling for $199.

Been carrying different gens. of the E1B since they first came out, may have to upgrade to this 400 lumen model primarily b/c they dropped the TIR lens & have now a beam w/ much wider spill.

[Crashpad]

Brightguy.com is showing it as available sometime this month (that is where I purchased my PT1L-AA) and GT Distributors told me that they are expecting the 2L-X to show up late March or April.
GT Distributors Rossville, Georgia store has the 2L-X in stock. I noticed them when I was in earlier today, but was in a hurry and didn't have time to check them out.
I'm assuming that their other locations probably do also.

[Adam]

I've done some bad karma against Streamlight in a past life or something. I've killed clicky switches on 2 Protacs and a Microstream in the past few years with very minimal use. I bought a Thrunite Ti3 to carry as a small general use light 2 years ago and I love that thing. Recently bought a Thrunite Archer 2AA and have been very impressed with it as well. I made a slide from Surefire to Streamlight to now exploring other brands and I have to say I'm more impressed than I expected to be with some of these "other" companies. Serious use stuff though, I look to the big names.

[ragnar_d]

Just got notification that the 2L-X is available at LAPG
http://www.lapolicegear.com/st-88063-protac-2lx.html


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[Chuck Whitlock]

I've done some bad karma against Streamlight in a past life or something. I've killed clicky switches on 2 Protacs and a Microstream in the past few years with very minimal use. I bought a Thrunite Ti3 to carry as a small general use light 2 years ago and I love that thing. Recently bought a Thrunite Archer 2AA and have been very impressed with it as well. I made a slide from Surefire to Streamlight to now exploring other brands and I have to say I'm more impressed than I expected to be with some of these "other" companies. Serious use stuff though, I look to the big names.

I've had very good luck with Streamlight's customer service.