Glock 30s and Glock 30 gen4

[WOLFIE]

I am having trouble deciding between the Glock 30s and the Glock 30 gen4. I am thinking of using a JM Custom Kydex IWB holster with a 25 % cant and a Surefire XC1.

The 30s slide is not as wide but does that matter when concealing the firearm considering the frame is the same width (an assumption)? A 30s holster may be slimer in one area due to the slide compared to a 30 gen4 holster but the same width in another area due to the frame size.

Trigger pull is important to me. I like to put an oem minus connector in my gen3 glocks. I have tried some nice trigger pulls on gen4 45 guns and some that were stiff (all with the new dot connector). Does anyone know if the 30s has gen4 trigger internals? (Detailed info. is what i am after). I tried the trigger pull on a 30s today and it "felt" like a gen4 trigger. I was unable to check to see if it had a dot connector.

If anyone has carried both IWB, please advise if the 30s was more comfotable or not than the 30 gen4. And thanks in advance.

[DGI]

Its my understanding that the 30S slide is similar to the 36 slide (which is similar to the 19 slide). When I had my SME holster made, I still had a 36 and told John to make both guns work with the same holster. Retention is EXCELLENT with my 19 and just as good with the 36 (that i've since sold). I keep telling myself that I'd like to try a 30S but havent picked one up yet.

I carried a G30 previously and the grip frame was completely manageable, actually carried alot like my G19. Take that for what its worth.

[L-2]

The G30S is a Gen3 (SF) frame and will come with a standard 5.5 pound unmarked connector. A "minus" connector will drop the pull down to ~4.5 pounds.

The G30Gen4 comes with a "dot" connector, resulting in ~5.5 pounds. A "minus" connector will drop the pull to ~5.0 pounds.

[Lost River]

I had a G30 for a while, and currently have a G30S.

The short version is that while the actual measurements may differ only slightly, to me the G30S feels substantially better in the hand, and I very much like the slimmer slide. It is very close to a G19 overall. I knocked down the finger grooves a bit and undercut the trigger guard on mine, and really like the feel. While I prefer a G19 for defense against humans, I find the G30S makes a BUNCH of sense for a sportsman who wants a dual purpose gun for both animals and people.

For me, the G30S is hard not to like.

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[WOLFIE]

Thank you LOST RIVER, L-2, AND DGI. I like the idea of the heavier slide on the g30 regarding durability and recoil but the people who own a g30s seem to really like it. This is a logical win win question.

[JonInWA]

I had a G30 for a while, and currently have a G30S.

The short version is that while the actual measurements may differ only slightly, to me the G30S feels substantially better in the hand, and I very much like the slimmer slide. It is very close to a G19 overall. I knocked down the finger grooves a bit and undercut the trigger guard on mine, and really like the feel. While I prefer a G19 for defense against humans, I find the G30S makes a BUNCH of sense for a sportsman who wants a dual purpose gun for both animals and people.

For me, the G30S is hard not to like.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg.html)

Better pic of mods:

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Lost River, not to intentionally derail the thread (well, not too much), what cartridges are you using for your wilderness carry with your G30S?

Best, Jon

[serialsolver]

I had a G30 for a while, and currently have a G30S.

The short version is that while the actual measurements may differ only slightly, to me the G30S feels substantially better in the hand, and I very much like the slimmer slide. It is very close to a G19 overall. I knocked down the finger grooves a bit and undercut the trigger guard on mine, and really like the feel. While I prefer a G19 for defense against humans, I find the G30S makes a BUNCH of sense for a sportsman who wants a dual purpose gun for both animals and people.

For me, the G30S is hard not to like.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg.html)

Better pic of mods:

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Lost river, does your g30s show signs of the firing pin dragging on the primer while the barrel is camming down?


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[pastaslinger]

It hurts me that Glock has not made a flush G30s mag

[MGW]

It hurts me that Glock has not made a flush G30s mag

Meant to quote that not hit like. They make 9 round magazines that are flush.

[GJM]

Lost River, not to intentionally derail the thread (well, not too much), what cartridges are you using for your wilderness carry with your G30S?

Best, Jon

I would run two loads -- Hornady Critical Duty .45+P as a tough JHP and the Underwood +P load with the Lehigh Extreme penetrator bullet for penetration.

[serialsolver]

Here's three empty cases fired from my g30s. From the look of the firing pin drag marks on the primers it looks like it may be unlocking early. The fired rounds are Speer 230gr gold dots, wolf and federal 185gr +p hydoshocks. I don't remember my previous g30 or g36 leaving a firing pin drag and my other glocks are not leaving this mark. I'm wondering if I should contact glock?

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[Lost River]

Lost River, not to intentionally derail the thread (well, not too much), what cartridges are you using for your wilderness carry with your G30S?

Best, Jon

Jon,

Sorry for the delayed response, I just now saw that follow up questions were posted.

Generally speaking I run 230 grain Gold Dots. When I do another batch of .45 hand loads, I will load up some heavy for caliber, wide meplat hard cast flat points that are roughly 250-255 grains. If they prove reliable in the gun, they will end up being the ammo of choice for the mountains.

That said, I don't feel the least bit handicapped with Gold Dots or even the old 230 grain Hydra-shoks. Having shot animals with both, I have no doubt that if my marksmanship is up to the task, the projectiles will be as well.

[Lost River]

Lost river, does your g30s show signs of the firing pin dragging on the primer while the barrel is camming down?


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I have not noticed that at all, but then again, I was not looking. The next time I take it out, I will inspect the spent cases a little closer.

[11B10]

I had a G30 for a while, and currently have a G30S.

The short version is that while the actual measurements may differ only slightly, to me the G30S feels substantially better in the hand, and I very much like the slimmer slide. It is very close to a G19 overall. I knocked down the finger grooves a bit and undercut the trigger guard on mine, and really like the feel. While I prefer a G19 for defense against humans, I find the G30S makes a BUNCH of sense for a sportsman who wants a dual purpose gun for both animals and people.

For me, the G30S is hard not to like.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b109/IV_Troop/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/IV_Troop/media/Handguns/IMG_1170_zpsgtrjjcgj.jpg.html)

Better pic of mods:

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LR, you (and a few others) are killing me, damn near bringing me back to a pistol I carried for 2 years and absolutely loved. Why am I using past tense? I sold it because I couldn't find a solution to my inability to reach the mag release. Naturally, since I sold it, I have found more than one solution. Others here have answered your technical questions, but I have yet to find a firearm chambered in .45ACP that carries, conceals, and shoots as well as the G 30 S, dammit.

[L-2]

The G30S is a Gen3 (SF) frame and will come with a standard 5.5 pound unmarked connector. A "minus" connector will drop the pull down to ~4.5 pounds.

The G30Gen4 comes with a "dot" connector, resulting in ~5.5 pounds. A "minus" connector will drop the pull to ~5.0 pounds.
I'm thinking I erred in the G30Gen4 coming with a "dot" connector.
Unfortunately, I don't have a new, untouched G30Gen4 available to me.
If someone has a G30Gen4 which hasn't had any connector substitutions or just knows for sure what connector came with their G30Gen4, I'd like to hear what connector came in their G30Gen4.

My G30Gen4 has been taken apart many times with various connector substitutions.
As the G30SF and G30Gen4 use the same trigger mechanism housing I'm thinking the G30Gen4's connector was probably a regular unmarked connector.
10 months later, after making my initial post in this thread, I measured the trigger pull after putting in a "Dot" connector into my G30Gen4 and it was 5.0 pounds or less.
I put in a standard unmarked connector which brought my G30Gen4's pull to the specified 5.5 pounds which is making me doubt my original comment about the G30Gen4 coming with a "Dot" connector as a stock part.

[serialsolver]

According to a reference thread on glocktalk about all things g30, the gen4 30 has the dot connector from the factory.


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[JonInWA]

Pretty sure all Gen4s now, and have for a long time, come with "dot" connectors.

Best, Jon

[Duces Tecum]

I find the G30S makes a BUNCH of sense for a sportsman who wants a dual purpose gun for both animals and people.

Brief pause in the thread before the drinks arrive: Every once in a while somebody knowledgable writes that, but no matter how many times I try it's just not fathomable. Why a 9mm is sufficient for humans, but animals require a .45?


Cordially,
Duces

[Duelist]

Brief pause in the thread before the drinks arrive: Every once in a while somebody knowledgable writes that, but no matter how many times I try it's just not fathomable. Why a 9mm is sufficient for humans, but animals require a .45?


Cordially,
Duces

Range cattle, I think.

[45dotACP]

Man if the G30 shoots as well as the G21 I may strongly consider purchasing one. Not sure what it is about those .45 Glocks but holy crap do they put bullets where you want.

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[WobblyPossum]

Brief pause in the thread before the drinks arrive: Every once in a while somebody knowledgable writes that, but no matter how many times I try it's just not fathomable. Why a 9mm is sufficient for humans, but animals require a .45?


Cordially,
Duces

Some animals you might encounter have bones that are much stronger and denser than those of humans. While .45 is generally better at breaking through bones than 9mm, that doesn’t really matter with humans because a 9mm does well enough with human bones. When talking about animals with stronger bones, that slight advantage may make a difference. Or, it may not. Who knows for sure?

[WOLFIE]

I never did buy a G30. I should though since i have a G41. One NEEDS a pair of pistols……

[WobblyPossum]

I wish Glock would release a G30 with a G19 height frame that holds 10 rounds in a flush fitting magazine. I never liked the idea of a G26 style frame with optional flush fit or pinky extension mags. Does anyone here actually carry a G30 with the flush fit magazine?

[pangloss]

I wish Glock would release a G30 with a G19 height frame that holds 10 rounds in a flush fitting magazine. I never liked the idea of a G26 style frame with optional flush fit or pinky extension mags. Does anyone here actually carry a G30 with the flush fit magazine?Don't you like the Glock 38?

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[WobblyPossum]

Don't you like the Glock 38?

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.45 GAP is pretty much dead.

[Mitch]

Man if the G30 shoots as well as the G21 I may strongly consider purchasing one. Not sure what it is about those .45 Glocks but holy crap do they put bullets where you want.

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Sample of 2, but my 30SF shoots better than my 21SF.

That gun doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for me, but I really do love it.

[45dotACP]

Sample of 2, but my 30SF shoots better than my 21SF.

That gun doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for me, but I really do love it.Ah man, I don't need another gun and I REALLY don't need another .45

But I guess now I do.

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[Mitch]

Ah man, I don't need another gun and I REALLY don't need another .45

But I guess now I do.

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I’ve had a 30SF and a 30S. I didn’t like the 30S, it was noticeably more snappy. The 30SF though is one of those guns that is just way better than it should be. With a 9 round magazine it conceals almost as well as a 26. 10 round mag gets you a 19 sized gun. Recoil isn’t bad and it’s a super accurate gun. If you need/want to launch a 45 it’s a fantastic pistol. Honestly probably my favorite Glock.