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Gray222
08-27-2016, 09:46 AM
I know it's late in the summer and we have a thread from 2012 which isn't exactly what I'd like to start a discussion on so yeah..
I recently broke my Edge Torque (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XC0LK2) sunglasses on duty two weeks ago during a foot pursuit and have been looking to replace them. They worked really well and I wish I didn't throw them out so I could have done a review on them. I am looking for a new set of sun glasses for duty work, not oakley's because they are just too expensive to wear on duty since stuff tends to break quickly and constantly.
I have a pair of Smith Optics (https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_il_tl?ie=UTF8&keywords=smith%20optics%20black%20polarized) black polarized sunglasses that I've worn to outdoor range classes a few times and they are fantastic. I don't remember the exact name as I got them for free last summer, will do a review on them soon.
A lot of guys default to aviator style glasses for duty work, they are comfortable and work well but you can't find any of them that are sturdy enough for duty work which leaves me with two options - buy a super cheap pair knowing they are going to break and disregard all protection ability or buy a higher end pair and baby them or buy a good pair of proven ballistic-grade sunglasses which can double as range glasses.
Don't really want to look like this but it would be funny:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SwveuIRWxBo/maxresdefault.jpg
I have a pair of ESS Cross (https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_il_tl?ie=UTF8&keywords=ESS) that I use only for range work with the three lens swap-ability and they work really well and are ballistic rated but I don't know if I want to risk taking them on duty where the likelihood of breaking them or losing them is fairly high.
Considerations? Opinions? Experiences? Get bent copper?
I'm a Rudy Project and Oakley guy. The Standard Issue Oakleys are significantly cheaper than retail prices. Have you looked at the SI line? I've been considering some new SI Flak Jackets.
Kyle Reese
08-27-2016, 10:48 AM
I use prescription Oakley gas cans, and an am very happy with them.
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BillSWPA
08-27-2016, 10:49 AM
No experience with that type of duty, but before I switched from contact lenses to glasses, I wore Wiley X sunglasses that I really liked. Only caveat is to always use a case when not wearing them. If carried in a pocket without a case, the earpieces could scratch the lenses.
He tint on the Wiley X is not as dark as many other brands. It is enough to take the edge off the sun but not so much that your visibility is limited when you go indoors and have not yet had a free hand to remove them.
JohnO
08-27-2016, 11:47 AM
I'm an Oakley guy. I wear tinted lenses for driving and anytime the sun is out and strong. However I wear clear lenses all the time when shooting. I discovered years ago that tinted lenses changed my zero with iron sights on a pistol. It actually was in a Northern Red pistol class when the sun came out and I switched to dark lenses in my Oakleys. We were shooting a lot of Bulls and my point of impact shifted. Initially I thought is was just me. When I switched back to the clear lenses I was right back on.
One of the guys from Northern Red either J.D. Potynsky or Chris K. I don't remember which one it was said that when his team went out on hits no matter the conditions they always wore clear lenses for the same reason. Ever since that class the clear lenses in my shooting array is all I use. It was the precision work we were doing that made the shift apparent.
Regarding cheap sunglasses, I learned my lesson years ago when I picked up a cheap pair of glasses in Wal-Mart. It took me a few days to realize the headaches I was experiencing were being caused by the crappy lenses. Never again!
Mike Pannone also has some good information on lighting conditions and how you perceive your sights. He doesn't specifically address glasses but it applies and I've discussed it with Mike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzSHXemDSm0
taadski
08-27-2016, 12:29 PM
I've used Oakleys through the SI program for a bunch of years. They can be had at some pretty reasonable prices. A year or so ago, they jacked up the program prices substantially though. The replacement lenses pretty much doubled (or more) in cost. Left a bad taste in my mouth, given how often I fuck them up.
In frustration, I searched around and wound up ordering some aftermarket lenses from a company called Revant Optics. They had lenses available for virtually any brand and model you wanted. And they were inexpensive ($20-$30 depending on type), so I tried a set. I wound up ordering 3 more replacement sets the following month and I've been using them for about 8 months now. They seem to hold up to abuse a bunch better than the original Oakley lenses do. I'm not an optics geek, but they sure seem to have better clarity than the original Oakleys also. They come in all sorts of available tints, both polarized and not. They're definitely worth a look.
https://www.revantoptics.com
ubervic
08-27-2016, 03:33 PM
Another vote for Wiley X.
I'd been running RayBan for many years and then, about a year ago, my dozen-year-old pair bought the farm. Searched around and settled on Wiley X Rebel. they're lightweight, tough frame, comfortable, decent polycarbonate lenses that are not too dark yet give great glare protection, look good, and not crazy expensive.
Wheeler
08-27-2016, 06:04 PM
Super Dave Harrington recommends using the clearest lenses you can get with the most UV protection available so as not to wash out certain colors. I've yet to give it a whirl.
One more vote for the Cossbows. Used to be a die hard Oakley guy until I went away from contact lenses and need rx on the shooting glasses. Just can't afford to drop $400+ each year that my scrip changes. The Crossbows have rx inserts that can be had direct for ESS for cheap. Think I paid like $120 for a set. I have a set of clear and dark grey. I do find myself shooting. With the clear most of the time. Unless I'm shooting directly into the sun or something a cap offers enough shade for my eyes. Anyway, the CB fit my noggen and busted nose well and you can't beat the price. Only negative thing I can list is the RX insert has a somewhat limited FOV vertically. When running a carbine I find that the upper wire on the insert getting into my sight picture. I do have some flexibility issues in my neck coupled with probably poor stance so it may not really be an issue for anyone else.
pr1042
08-27-2016, 07:23 PM
I've used Oakleys through the SI program for a bunch of years. They can be had at some pretty reasonable prices. A year or so ago, they jacked up the program prices substantially though. The replacement lenses pretty much doubled (or more) in cost. Left a bad taste in my mouth, given how often I fuck them up.
In frustration, I searched around and wound up ordering some aftermarket lenses from a company called Revant Optics. They had lenses available for virtually any brand and model you wanted. And they were inexpensive ($20-$30 depending on type), so I tried a set. I wound up ordering 3 more replacement sets the following month and I've been using them for about 8 months now. They seem to hold up to abuse a bunch better than the original Oakley lenses do. I'm not an optics geek, but they sure seem to have better clarity than the original Oakleys also. They come in all sorts of available tints, both polarized and not. They're definitely worth a look.
https://www.revantoptics.com
Thanks, just ordered a set as I needed new lenses and recently wasn't able to renew my SI membership
Shoresy
08-27-2016, 09:03 PM
Revision is also worth a look. My Hellflys outlasted my Half Jackets, and their customer service is excellent.
wilco423
08-27-2016, 09:23 PM
I'm on my second pair of Under Armor Rangers (lost the first). They're ANSI rated and polarized, with pretty full coverage. I've snagged them on sales for about $60.
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Unisex-Ranger-Sunglass/dp/B00I92BN6G
Drang
08-28-2016, 01:13 AM
I think this was discussed before, elsewhere, but what do folks think about using these sort of glasses with a prescription? Do prescription adapters work well with specs like the ESS?
OnionsAndDragons
08-28-2016, 04:06 AM
I have trouble with contacts so only use rx inserts on shooting glasses.
Previously used Oakley SI but they are used to the point of having delamination.
I picked up some ESS suppressors and have found them as awesome as Tom describes. I don't like the head lanyard thingie as it seems poorly designed and digs into my gourd though.
Otherwise, I'm very happy with the ESS and they seem much more affordable than Oakley. My set cost like 35$ w prime.
I have found I really like the HD copper lens. It is very crisp and better for medium light conditions than a more grey tint, imo.
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Every lens I have purchased to Oakley SI program has delaminated. Oakley says I am doing something wrong to cause it to happen. I was at a class for work and heard several guys complain of the same thing. I switched to ESS and haven't had any problems.
BillSWPA
08-28-2016, 09:20 AM
I wear bifocals. One limitation imposed by a bifocal prescription is the inability to use wraparound lenses. I found a pair of Ray-Bans that sit close enough to my face so that they are effectively as good as wraparound. The original nonprescription lenses were glass, but the prescription lenses put in by the glasses store are polycarbonate, providing some impact protection.
For those who wear bifocals, there are multiple styles of lenses. For shooting (and for everything else for me) the best ones seem to be the ones with distance on top, reading on the bottom, and a gradual transition in between. That transition region is ideal for front sight focus, at least for me.
matt7184
08-28-2016, 09:43 AM
Every lens I have purchased to Oakley SI program has delaminated. Oakley says I am doing something wrong to cause it to happen. I was at a class for work and heard several guys complain of the same thing. I switched to ESS and haven't had any problems.
My sweat has delaminated EVERY single set of Oakley lenses I have owned...to the point I refuse to buy Oakley. Smith has faired better but my sweat still delaminates them. The only brand that hasn't delaminated on my so far has been Revision.
BaiHu
08-28-2016, 09:51 AM
I have trouble with contacts so only use rx inserts on shooting glasses.
Previously used Oakley SI but they are used to the point of having delamination.
I picked up some ESS suppressors and have found them as awesome as Tom describes. I don't like the head lanyard thingie as it seems poorly designed and digs into my gourd though.
Otherwise, I'm very happy with the ESS and they seem much more affordable than Oakley. My set cost like 35$ w prime.
I have found I really like the HD copper lens. It is very crisp and better for medium light conditions than a more grey tint, imo.
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Are you able to get RX inserts on those ESS? If so, what's the guesstimate cost? I have a pair of RX glasses built from the ground up in a Ray Ban frame that cost me ~$300 about 6 years back and they've served me well, but I learned early on that the arms hurt my head if I wasn't wearing gel caps, so I just use gel now.
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Hot Sauce
08-28-2016, 11:57 AM
Surprised no one has mentioned Numa Optics. I guess they are not that well known. Check out the YouTube videos about these things, the lenses are unbreakable no matter how you bend/twist/step/sit on them. I typically put them in a micro fiber bag so that the lenses don't scratch, and throw them in a bunch of other stuff into backpacks/luggage/range bag/etc. They are that tough and flexible.
I personally have the Numa Flash (https://numaoptics.com/product/flash/) because their nose piece is fully adjustable and they stay put for the ultimate fit. It also helps that they weigh in at only 20 grams. Now keep in mind they are only available in white or orange, so if you're gonna wear them for duty, you will probably have to spray paint them black (I've krylon'd them before, and it works out fine unless you're super anal).
The other option is to check out their other models which are of the "tactical" variety, which come in more traditional colors. They are more expensive, generally, and most don't come with that highly adjustable nose piece that is my favorite part of what makes them fit so well.
OnionsAndDragons
08-28-2016, 12:54 PM
Are you able to get RX inserts on those ESS? If so, what's the guesstimate cost? I have a pair of RX glasses built from the ground up in a Ray Ban frame that cost me ~$300 about 6 years back and they've served me well, but I learned early on that the arms hurt my head if I wasn't wearing gel caps, so I just use gel now.
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The inserts I use are the glasses within the glasses type you will see pretty much any trooper that needs correction have clipped into their Oakley or ESS eyepro. They come with a nosepiece that replaces the original and let's you clip the carrier between your eyes and the ballistic shield. They cost like $15-20 and any old eye doc can put lenses into them.
I believe that ESS does do some prescription lenses, but I expect they would be rather pricey ala rx injected Oakleys.
I might look into these Numa mentioned above as they are available in rx. But they don't seem to be mil spec ballistic rated, which us one are where the mil grade is definitely better than ANSI or other industrial.
The Suppressor line ESS are truly great under muffs. The only issue I have w them is the head strap attaches with posts through holes at the end of the eyeglass arms. The posts dig into my head if I use the strap. The strap is necessary to keep them on your face without ear pro over them for any real period of time. There is probably a strap with a slip over fitting that would remedy this, just haven't found it yet.
Dagga Boy
08-28-2016, 01:06 PM
I am pretty loyal to Oakley for two reasons. First, long exposure. I first started using them Mountain biking and have used them ever since. Second, Oakley's have literally saved my left eye twice. On both incidents I should have been blind or had severe eye damage at the minimum. The frames I was wearing my last day at work were on display at the Oakley headquarters. Part of the Airlines thread.....my full set of multiple prescription Oakley lenses and frames was stolen out of my gun bag by an American employee. They refused to replace them. I have not pony' up the funds to replace them, but it was close to a $1000 worth of glass. I still wear Oakley's exclusively and just got my exam done so I will likely replace my one set of lenses that delaminated. No matter what brand you choose, you need to be using something with a high level of protection for your eyes, and for the cops, that is a full time thing when working. You should always have big protective eye wear on at all times on the job,
23JAZ
08-28-2016, 05:10 PM
I am pretty loyal to Oakley for two reasons. First, long exposure. I first started using them Mountain biking and have used them ever since. Second, Oakley's have literally saved my left eye twice. On both incidents I should have been blind or had severe eye damage at the minimum. The frames I was wearing my last day at work were on display at the Oakley headquarters. Part of the Airlines thread.....my full set of multiple prescription Oakley lenses and frames was stolen out of my gun bag by an American employee. They refused to replace them. I have not pony' up the funds to replace them, but it was close to a $1000 worth of glass. I still wear Oakley's exclusively and just got my exam done so I will likely replace my one set of lenses that delaminated. No matter what brand you choose, you need to be using something with a high level of protection for your eyes, and for the cops, that is a full time thing when working. You should always have big protective eye wear on at all times on the job,
Can your u elaborate how they saved your eyesight?
Dunno about DB, but Oakley's saved mine when the jacket from a .45 came back off steel and stuck in the lens directly in front of my eye. Knocked the glasses askew and scared the hell out of me but my eyes are fine. Sent me a replacement lens with no problems.
I'm loyal to Oakley for life after that.
Off duty I like Aviators. I have a pair of Randolph's with polarized lenses that are great, but would be far too delicate to wear at work.
Hot Sauce
08-28-2016, 05:32 PM
I might look into these Numa mentioned above as they are available in rx. But they don't seem to be mil spec ballistic rated, which us one are where the mil grade is definitely better than ANSI or other industrial.
You can try emailing them. Most often you'll get a response from the owner of the company. I think they used to have MIL spec models available, but they also had a ton more models in general on their site. So I don't know if this is just what is in stock, or some other reason that only those 4 models are currently listed.
Gray222
08-28-2016, 05:59 PM
So a huge +1 for ESS?
I like the company and what they seem to offer...
OnionsAndDragons
08-29-2016, 03:12 AM
I'd say so.
Also, I'm pretty sure that ESS is a subsidiary of Oakley. Pretty sure they were bought up like 7-8 years ago but I could be wrong. ESS are definitely issued to a lot of troops that Oakleys had been in the past.
The biggest thing for me, and probably ought to be for your purpose VDM, is the mil rated ballistic shield. It really is a high standard.
Dagga Boy
08-29-2016, 06:00 AM
Can your u elaborate how they saved your eyesight?
One of my guys accidently loaded a Brenneke slug on a "birdshot" drill on the range. I took that on a direct ricochette off a steel target at seven yards into the top of my Oakley glasses over my left eye. I stayed conscious out of sheer will to not pass out in front of my guys until I got treated by our SWAT Medic. I could have probably used a stitch or two but the medic did a great job of stopping the bleeding. It was pretty bad.
The second was my last day on the job. I took a fist loaded crescent wrench with the tines open directly into the left eye. The Oakley glasses were destroyed (Oakley said the force was greater than getting hit with a steel ball at 120 mph to do the damage that was done to the lenses.) and I had significant damage to my orbital area and inside my nose, but my eye is intact with no issues other than losing my binocular version.
23JAZ
08-29-2016, 06:57 AM
One of my guys accidently loaded a Brenneke slug on a "birdshot" drill on the range. I took that on a direct ricochette off a steel target at seven yards into the top of my Oakley glasses over my left eye. I stayed conscious out of sheer will to not pass out in front of my guys until I got treated by our SWAT Medic. I could have probably used a stitch or two but the medic did a great job of stopping the bleeding. It was pretty bad.
The second was my last day on the job. I took a fist loaded crescent wrench with the tines open directly into the left eye. The Oakley glasses were destroyed (Oakley said the force was greater than getting hit with a steel ball at 120 mph to do the damage that was done to the lenses.) and I had significant damage to my orbital area and inside my nose, but my eye is intact with no issues other than losing my binocular version.
I guess I will be keeping my gas cans! Thanks for the info.
I guess I will be keeping my gas cans! Thanks for the info.
Was he wearing regular sun glasses or those ballistic things?
taadski
08-29-2016, 09:50 AM
I'm pretty sure that ESS is a subsidiary of Oakley. Pretty sure they were bought up like 7-8 years ago but I could be wrong. ESS are definitely issued to a lot of troops that Oakleys had been in the past.
Yep. Oakley snatched up ESS in 2006. The year before Oakley themselves were purchased outright by the Italian eyeglass giant Luxottica.
:-/
Tamara
08-29-2016, 01:10 PM
Fortunately, /I don't have any duties, so I don't need duty sunglasses. The sunglasses I pick only need to stand up to the rigors of being carried on a palanquin to and from my chauffeured car to and from the range. Since I'm too lazy to change into shooting glasses at the range, they need to be ballistic rated, and since I'm too lazy to order one of my bearers to pick them up if they fall from my head while I'm in the palanquin, they need to not fall off my head. Also, I want the lenses to be mirrored in an icy, cold, heartless blue to match my eyes.
So far, a pair of Wiley-X AirRage sunglasses has managed to hold this job for the last four years without being lost or broken.
Dagga Boy
08-29-2016, 01:34 PM
I guess I will be keeping my gas cans! Thanks for the info.
Gas Cans are my normal daily wear and I am going to try to get some prescription lens put in a set.
Fortunately, /I don't have any duties, so I don't need duty sunglasses. The sunglasses I pick only need to stand up to the rigors of being carried on a palanquin to and from my chauffeured car to and from the range. Since I'm too lazy to change into shooting glasses at the range, they need to be ballistic rated, and since I'm too lazy to order one of my bearers to pick them up if they fall from my head while I'm in the palanquin, they need to not fall off my head. Also, I want the lenses to be mirrored in an icy, cold, heartless blue to match my eyes.
So far, a pair of Wiley-X AirRage sunglasses has managed to hold this job for the last four years without being lost or broken.
As a sophisticate of the firearms community, I like how you roll.
jetfire
08-29-2016, 01:41 PM
I've been rocking a pair of Under Armour Reliance Tactical eyepro on and off duty for about a year and a half now. They just now finally picked up a scratch on the lens when an errant .223 case slammed 'em from point blank range. Whoopsie doodle.
Plus they look cool, and I'm not wearing Oakleys like everyone else at the job.
https://www.underarmour.com/en-us/ua-tactical-reliance-sunglasses/pid1245312
vcdgrips
08-29-2016, 04:01 PM
I have used to be a dyed in the wool Oakley guy with the original M series. They saved me from a serious eye injury due to an ammo double charge at Gunsite in 2007. I have since moved on to the ESS Cross Bow series. The 2x set allows me to keep both a clear and shade sets ready to go without having to swap out lenses. Their ear pieces ( both standard and thin) play well with my hearing protection (OD Green Howard Leights).
Note, as mentioned above, ESS is owned by Oakley. The ESS Cross Bow series is avail at a sig LEO/GOVT/MIL discount and passed ANSI Z87.1 and MIL-PRF-31013 clause 3.5.1.1 unlike some early model Oakleys to include my Original M-Series. Indeed, if it were me and I was buying anew, if it were not on the Army appoved list, I would keep walking unless my mission precluded the look and I guess the above stds would have to be enough. I would avoid anything made in China re my eyepro i.e. the UA stuff described above ( made in China as per the Amazon website)
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-Mens-Reliance-Sunglass/dp/B00C4RN4C8
Army Approved List
http://www.peosoldier.army.mil/equipment/eyewear/
Hot Sauce
08-29-2016, 04:14 PM
The second was my last day on the job. I took a fist loaded crescent wrench with the tines open directly into the left eye. The Oakley glasses were destroyed (Oakley said the force was greater than getting hit with a steel ball at 120 mph to do the damage that was done to the lenses.) and I had significant damage to my orbital area and inside my nose, but my eye is intact with no issues other than losing my binocular version.
Holy hell.
Chuck Whitlock
08-29-2016, 09:11 PM
So far, a pair of Wiley-X AirRage sunglasses has managed to hold this job for the last four years without being lost or broken.
The AirRage sunglasses fit me better than most of the others I've tried. I currently wear the black pair on duty, and the silver flash ones off duty.
Several years ago, I was wearing a pair of AirRages when a suspect punched me in the side of the head about three times during an arrest. That arm broke at the mount hole for the T-stud lanyard 2-3 years after the incident.
I have a set of ESS glasses with 2-3 lens sets in my range bag, but haven't used them a lot.
Gray222
08-30-2016, 03:33 PM
So another niche requirement is that if I put them up on top of my head they stay there...I've considered a neck band but not for duty.
Hot Sauce
08-30-2016, 05:43 PM
So another niche requirement is that if I put them up on top of my head they stay there...I've considered a neck band but not for duty.
Stay there while roughhousing or what?
Gray222
08-30-2016, 06:31 PM
Stay there while roughhousing or what?
I mean if they do that cool but just normally
Hot Sauce
08-30-2016, 11:44 PM
I mean if they do that cool but just normally
Sounds like pretty much any flexible frame with a close fit and rubber nose pieces will do, in that case.
SamuelBLong
08-31-2016, 05:15 AM
I went through all the options recently.
Have used Oakley extensively.
Settled on Rudy Project Rydon's with the Impact X Clear to Black Photochromic lenses.
They are awesome. Earpieces and nose pieces are fully adjustable. That means I can finally position the center of the lens in front of my eye... It allows you to shoot pistol, rifle, shotgun in any position without the top of the frame obstructing vision.
I've only had one scuffle since getting them but they stay in place once you adjust them.
I can wear the same pair all day from the dark of 0500 till whenever I get off at night. They are clear in the early morning. As the sun comes up they get dark, but if I walk inside to take a report they clear right back up.
Especially for LEO's, we are in our vehicles all the time. It is to our benefit to protect our eyes because of glass and glass particulate (accidents and shooting through glass).
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rdtompki
08-31-2016, 07:09 AM
I went through all the options recently.
Have used Oakley extensively.
Settled on Rudy Project Rydon's with the Impact X Clear to Black Photochromic lenses.
They are awesome. Earpieces and nose pieces are fully adjustable. That means I can finally position the center of the lens in front of my eye... It allows you to shoot pistol, rifle, shotgun in any position without the top of the frame obstructing vision.
I've only had one scuffle since getting them but they stay in place once you adjust them.
I can wear the same pair all day from the dark of 0500 till whenever I get off at night. They are clear in the early morning. As the sun comes up they get dark, but if I walk inside to take a report they clear right back up.
Especially for LEO's, we are in our vehicles all the time. It is to our benefit to protect our eyes because of glass and glass particulate (accidents and shooting through glass).
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Not in LE, but we're talking sunglasses. The clear to black photochromics are "light years" ahead of what we could get 4-5 years ago. I have a single prescription pair for competition that I can use in a dark indoor range and the brightess outdoor conditions. I don't drive with these since they are focused at 24", but they do darken somewhat inside a car; the UV energy that activates the photochromic effect is diminished by the auto glass. For reference, my Project Rudy cycling glasses from 5-6 years ago have a much smaller transition range. My wife had used Wiley-X with Rx inserts, but switched to Project Rudy since their Rx insert is much less intrusive.
SmokeJumper
08-31-2016, 09:54 PM
I'm an Oakley fan here as well, Flak Jackets, Gas Can and M-Frames for wearing with a helmet and range work/training. I really dig the Oakley SI site and access they provide for public safety. I've also used the ESS CDI, not bad, kinda like Oakley Half Jackets or Flak Jackets. ESS is owned by Oakley and operated out of the same office I believe as Oakley SI. ESS also offers a pro account/govt. pricing as does Smith Optics. The Oakleys have performed well on and off duty, protected my eyes a few times when needed, nothing crazy...yet, plus it's nice to be able to buy new lenses to swap out scratched ones with. Want to try the new Oakley Shocktube, digging the new style.
Hot Sauce
08-31-2016, 11:28 PM
Want to try the new Oakley Shocktube, digging the new style.
Is it just me, or does the hex deal look more like a styling rather than practical feature. I haven't heard of Oakleys with more easily interchangeable lenses coming apart and not protecting people from impact like they are supposed to, so what is the hex feature for besides for looking tough?
The ESS adapters are pretty cheap. They have a couple of versions. One the URX looks like GI birth control glasses that works with both M frames and the Crossbows. The other is a thin wire and monofilament jobber called the vice. This is the one I have. They both run under $45 from ESS direct. I got mine with the rx lenses direct from ESS for like $130 and change. Single vision. Not sure how much your local optometrist charges for lenses so you may get a better deal. It's worked well enough for me aside from the top of the rim occasionally getting in the way when the glasses slide down. They do add a bit of weight to the glasses though.
SmokeJumper
09-02-2016, 01:26 PM
Is it just me, or does the hex deal look more like a styling rather than practical feature. I haven't heard of Oakleys with more easily interchangeable lenses coming apart and not protecting people from impact like they are supposed to, so what is the hex feature for besides for looking tough?
I think you are correct, more for style....I want to try some on first, but thought they would work for me at work.
Gray222
09-12-2016, 07:08 PM
Anyone have experience with these?
https://www.striyker.com/
Hot Sauce
09-12-2016, 11:14 PM
Anyone have experience with these?
https://www.striyker.com/
$129? GTFO
Gray222
09-13-2016, 04:02 AM
$129? GTFO
I mean it's right on par with the other upper entry level glasses from Oakley, Smith, etc. The Rudy project pair that were mentioned above with the changing lenses are almost $300
Nephrology
09-13-2016, 06:35 AM
I spent ~$110 on my Smith Optics .... worth every penny. Out here in CO the sun is no joke and you need real-deal polarized glasses to drive, full stop. I wear mine every day.
Hot Sauce
09-13-2016, 02:02 PM
I mean it's right on par with the other upper entry level glasses from Oakley, Smith, etc. The Rudy project pair that were mentioned above with the changing lenses are almost $300
Except we're talking about well-tested brands with a certain reputation. And brand value price inflation that comes with that.
Is there any features about them you find special? I didn't read any on that site that I noticed.
Also, I thought you were asking for cheaper alternatives to Smith/Oakleys. If price is no longer a factor and you like Smiths a lot, seems like that's a good resolution.
Gray222
09-13-2016, 02:22 PM
Except we're talking about well-tested brands with a certain reputation. And brand value price inflation that comes with that.
Is there any features about them you find special? I didn't read any on that site that I noticed.
Also, I thought you were asking for cheaper alternatives to Smith/Oakleys. If price is no longer a factor and you like Smiths a lot, seems like that's a good resolution.
I was merely asking if anyone had any experience with them. No need to extrapolate anything further.
vcdgrips
09-13-2016, 02:39 PM
A review of their own website re Striyker:
No info re place of manufacture (company claims to be located in PA)
Claim of ANSI Z87compliant but admitted that the product is not marked as such
No claim to meet the much more stringent US MIL-PRF-31013 clause 3.5.1.1
While sold on Amazon, they were only reviewed by 4 total users who collectively have less than 20 reviews. I would acknowledge that they carry a 5 star rating from Amazon.
129.00 for a pair of fashion sunglasses with a spotty pedigree at best...I would take a pass given the quality choices at or below the price point, let alone the MIL/GOVT/LEO discount you can likely garner on Oakley, ESS and Smith for sure.
YMMV Greatly.
Cool Breeze
10-21-2016, 04:25 AM
I use ESS. The ballistic specs are not only the best I have seen but also the best I have see for the lowest price. Also, if you do break something, you can buy just the parts you break instead of the whole set.
Suppressors for range use because they are so thin under muffs. They can not be used standalone without muffs (unless you use the strap). They will also not sit on top of your head.
CDI max for everyday sport life kind of situations or in your case on duty. The max gives more coverage. Interchangeable lenses if you severely scratch or break them. Same ballistic protection as suppressor.
I don't like skimping on eye pro and ESS seems to give high value and high protection.
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10-21-2016, 09:48 AM
I'll note that ESS, Oakley, Smith, and Rudy Project all offer pro deals. You can get a pair of ESS Crossbows for less than 30 USD, while replacement lenses are less than 20 USD.
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