Bad ideas you just cant let go of....(gun related)

[Jared]

When I was a kid, just getting old enough to be shooting regularly with my dad without him having to help hold the gun up, I had a Colt catalog. In that catalog, which I stared at until I nearly looked the letters off of it, was the Delta Elite. I so wanted that pistol, for all the reasons often cited by 10mm fanboys, and Delta Elite fanboys, and whatever else. It was my grail. Before I was old enough to buy one, supply had dried up around my parts (this was also before Gunbroker really became a thing).

In time, thanks largely to sites like this one and folks like DocGKR, I realized that I really didn't need a 10mm. Besides, even though Colt was making Delta's again, they lacked most of the modern 1911 features, and I hate GI grip safeties in particular. Then I heard they were making a newer, better version. Still though, no gun shop around here would have one, it'd never sell.

And then yesterday, while out running with a good friend, I saw it. One of the new Deltas, right there were those red triangles staring back at me. It was everything I thought a Delta should be, sitting there, with a beavertail grip safety, Novak sights, grip panels instead of the wrap around mess Colt had been using. Just perfect. Lord I have no use for a 10mm. None. Not even as a field pistol. The most vicious wild animal around here is a coyote, or a feral dog. And so I'm proud to say I never even picked it up, never haggled on price, nothing. I held firm.....

But while I was staring at that Colt all googley eyed, my riding partner for the day scored a Ruger GP100 unlike any I've ever seen. Blued, fixed sights, short lug, factory compact grips. Even had a usable DA trigger pull. To me, it is an awesome GP100, and if I hadn't been staring at that Colt like a little kid, it'd probably have been mine....

[MistWolf]

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[OlongJohnson]

I'm glad Sig doesn't make the P220 10mm with a 6 inch barrel and slide to match. I really don't want to add 10mm to the ammo supply.

[Jared]

http://www.gandrtactical.com/PDGImages/O2020XE_FP.png

Yup, that's the one I was staring at.

[Jared]

I'm glad Sig doesn't make the P220 10mm with a 6 inch barrel and slide to match. I really don't want to add 10mm to the ammo supply.

They had a SIG 220 in 10 too. And three flavors of Glock. I've never seen a local shop so well stocked with 10mm guns in this area. Fortunately, 10mm isn't really a weakness for me, just the Colt Delta Elite.

[JDM]

Underfolding AKs.

HK91s

S&W 610s

Carbon slide SIGs

Anything in .357SIG

[Arbninftry]

Opening a new gun shop that sells quality firearms in HICKTARD CENTRAL!

Now everything I sold I sold at less than a 5% mark up.

So a Glock that wholesales at 475, I sold at 500. Yet I still averaged less than 2 guns a month. Yes we did the Internet, online social media etc.

When a customer asks, and I am not kidding, "What does H&K mean, I never heard of them? Are they like H&R? I really just want to look at yur six shooters, Immmm a cowboy!"
Most of the local farmers don't own horses, but still believe their farming counts as being a cowboy. I moved here from Texas. Why? I don't know!

We are closing our door after three years.

I now live in the land of Flatbeads and dumbasses.
My zip code is EI EI O

[JDM]

Opening a new gun shop that sells quality firearms in HICKTARD CENTRAL!

Now everything I sold I sold at less a 5% mark up.

So a Glock that wholesales at 475, I sold at 500. Yet I still averaged less than 2 guns a month. Yes we I'd Internet, online social media etc.

When a customer asks, and I am not kidding, "What does H&K mean, I never heard of them? Are they like H&R? I really just want to look at yur six shooters, Immmm a cowboy!"
Most of the local farmers don't own horses, but still believe their farming counts as being a cowboy.

I now live in the land of Flatbeads and dumbasses.
My zip code is EI EI O

Solid hate. 7/10. Would read again.

[Matt O]

Friggin' FAL's. No one makes a quality version anymore, parts are scarce, parts kits ain't cheap, etc. But sex appeal? Through the roof. I have successfully managed to talk myself out of one for years now, but the struggle is real.

[Jay585]

Friggin' FAL's. No one makes a quality version anymore, parts are scarce, parts kits ain't cheap, etc. But sex appeal? Through the roof. I have successfully managed to talk myself out of one for years now, but the struggle is real.

Oh man... I still want a FAL like the one Ian Yule used in The Wild Geese.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4520448161_cd945e258b.jpg

Read about it here: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/12/03/mystery-of-the-short-barreled-fal-is-solved/

[Bigghoss]

10mm anything

Underfolder AKs

Mini-14 tactical

Pistol-caliber carbines

carbines without pistol grips

"something different"

Big stupid revolvers in .410, .454, and .500. But those are more for fun anyway.

[Willard]

From a purely functional perspective, any and all current/past social purpose guns that prevent(ed) me from standardizing on Glock 17/19/26 (probably even better to go to the 17 or 19 only), AR-15, and 442/642. At this stage, I view them as added expense in ammunition, holsters, magazines, spare parts, parts upgrades, fitted barrels, etc with no real benefit over aforementioned 'platforms' other than "variety" or "something different" while simultaneously precluding commonality of parts/accessories and simplified logistics and training. On the other hand, there is the "passion of the gun" thread...

[Malamute]

Don't know if bad ideas, but perhaps not always practical.

1873 Winchesters (current rave). 1894 Winchesters. 1886 Winchesters. 1892 Winchesters. 1866 Winchesters. Colt single actions. Ruger single actions. Blued anything, over anything else except maybe nickel. N frame Smiths. WWI era 1911's. P08 Lugers. Shooting longer distances with all sorts of rifles, some perhaps not assumed to be long range shooters (like 94 Winchesters, also didn't realize for a long time how much fun an AR is to shoot at 600-900 yards). Shooting one handed. At distance (300 yards etc). Shooting stuff in the air. Black powder cartridges. Percussion conversion guns (Colt type).

[HCM]

http://www.gandrtactical.com/PDGImages/O2020XE_FP.png

Do it. All Glock and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

You will either shoot it for a while and finally learn it's not all that or you will keep it forever. If option B, you can always have a 40 Smith & Wesson barrel fitted.

There were two guns I saw on the cover of Guns and Ammo as a kid which struck a nerve. S&W 586 and HK P-7. I kept the P7 for about 20 years and finally sent it down the road when the prices went up and I realized I could shoot the Glock and 1911 better for practical purposes. I still have the 586

Long guns: a FAL Para - Congo model with the 16" barrel and the full length gas system. Because/ reasons.

[Gray222]

Mini14 with a silver stock, a tan leather jacket and a cigar in my mouth.

Mp5k in a shoulder sling, triple mags on the other side.

Whatever gun Arnold had in that movie he played the Russian cop in the US.

Glock 26 with a rail mounted light laser combo

While I don't like 1911s whatever guns were in the Romeo and Juliet movie with DiCaprio, those were cool.

Sr25 with rail mounted high power optic which sits behind a large nvg optic. Not to use, just to look at.

[Bigghoss]

Whatever gun Arnold had in that movie he played the Russian cop in the US.


The movie was Red Heat and the gun was a modified Desert Eagle.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Red_Heat

[Gray222]

The movie was Red Heat and the gun was a modified Desert Eagle.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Red_Heat

Whatever looks awesome

[deputyG23]

My main distraction from Austrian plastic is fixed sight .38 six shot snubs and 4" service guns. Picked up five in the last couple of years and still have and shoot them all. Still on the lookout for more at the right price. I really want a shooter grade 5" M10 and a 3" M64.

[Joe in PNG]

1911's in .38 Super
3rd gen S&W autos in 9mm
FAL's and Uzi's
And those really oddball pre-WWI automatic pistols... or any pre-WWII pocket gun for that matter.
(If anyone like Tam ever wants to trade a seldom used Bayard .32, Colt New Line .38, or Roth-Steyr 1907 for my Glock 19... please let me know)

[serialsolver]

Enabler alert


My dad told me this, "you work hard all your life, you ought to get something you want."


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[Hambo]

.280 Ackley Improved, .416 anything, Remington Model 48 like the one in my avatar, and yes, a .50 Desert Eagle.

[Bigghoss]

Enabler alert


My dad told me this, "you work hard all your life, you ought to get something you want."


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That's the reason I didn't include many "fun guns" in my stupid ideas list. Except a BFR in .454. I totally need that for grizz. :rolleyes:

But yeah, .45-70 BFR, .500 magnum, Desert Eagle, matched set of .38 super 1911's, matched set of .44 mag single action Ruger Blackhawks (actually those need to be in my first list, I have delusions of actually carrying those) lot of stuff I want just for the fun of it.

[Jay Cunningham]

Trijicon SRS.

Been back to the factory twice, but it's still on my 11.5".

I love the damn thing, but that doesn't mean I'll recommend it.

[nalesq]

Double/barreled, side-by-side, SBS with the buttstock cut off, carried in a holster, Mad Max style...

[shane45]

.338 Lapua Magnum.... on rifle # 5 :eek:

[Hi-Point Aficionado]

1911's in .38 Super
3rd gen S&W autos in 9mm
...
And those really oddball pre-WWI automatic pistols... or any pre-WWII pocket gun for that matter.


This guy knows what's up. :cool:

On my end, I've got no use for pistol caliber carbines and certainly not enough to drop money on them. So the Hi-Point carbines call to me as cheap range toys that are fun enough to enjoy and cheap enough to use as the base for stupid projects. Bonus points if they are chambered in 380 ACP:

http://i.imgur.com/XINcmNWl.jpg

I hated them and refused to own one until a buddy made me try his Eoteched 4595TS. And promptly enjoyed the stupid thing. Now my seven pound mousegun follows me on almost every range trip. It's like shooting a 10/22 only launching big, fat bullets. And I have yet to hand it to someone who didn't wind up smiling so the insanity is infectious.

Beretta 96 series. I don't care that the frames take a pounding. I don't care what anyone says about 40 S&W in general. I don't care about the relatively low capacity. The Short & Weak shoots so pleasantly out of them and you can't stop me. Nor can you stop me working up Trail Boss loads under 155 grain cast lead once my minimal weight Wolff recoil spring comes in.

DA/SA and DAO Ruger autos. Ugly and low capacity but I like the triggers, they shoot softly, and are plenty accurate. The day I trip over a 9mm prison trade-in DAO or a P89x with the 30 Luger barrel included, I'll trade another gun to fund it.

Evans repeating rifle with dustcover. They were made right next door in Maine and are a hilarious mechanical contraption. I'd take up handloading their wonky cartridges and actually shoot it rather than hang it on the wall next to the old Winny '87. Luckily, I can't afford one. But could have when I passed on a nice condition model at a shop in Maine while vacationing. Would like to kick young me square in the nadgers sometimes.

Bolt-action smoothbore shotguns. Dunno, they just call to me and I apologize for nothing.

[ASH556]

The notion of a home defense shotgun. I can't think of a single scenario where I wouldn't grab my pistol or carbine first/instead, but I just love the idea of a simple 870P or Benelli. Gah!

[Hi-Point Aficionado]

The notion of a home defense shotgun. I can't think of a single scenario where I wouldn't grab my pistol or carbine first/instead

Someone's never lived next to a campground and regularly had a bruin at their sliding glass door with a bunch of stragers' trash strewn all over the yard. My 590 or a medium bore rifle lived next to the bed for years. Luckily for all involved, I was running shift coverage with an ambulance at the other end of the county the day it actually tried to come in to see what my wife was cooking before being run off by our cantankerous old yellow lab. Not all threats are human.

[Jared]

Enabler alert


My dad told me this, "you work hard all your life, you ought to get something you want."


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In all honesty, I have plenty of guns that I just enjoy having. The problem with this particular gun is that I've done a very nice job of standardizing on 9, 45, and 38 special. That way "serious" stuff and fun stuff can all eat from the same trough. This is what keeps me away from the Delta Elite and various 38 Super 1911's. Well, as a side note, none of my 45 stuff is for "serious" use either. So I've already got one just for fun cartridge in use. Still a struggle sometimes not to add more...

[Totem Polar]

Do accessories count? Anyone's custom version of the Gallagher "Miami Classic" shoulder holster.


And 5-shot .44 specials.

[Bigghoss]

Bolt-action smoothbore shotguns. Dunno, they just call to me and I apologize for nothing.

I have four. Every so often I make rounds to all the gun shops in town. Bolt action shotguns are almost always dirt cheap and they're just unusual enough to be interesting. I do kinda wish I had grabbed that Marlin Goose Gun but I don't know if it would have fit in the safe. Stupid long barrel on that thing.

[karmapolice]

The only suppressor I have and building an upper or rifle to use it on. I have an AAC SPR/M4 I got 9 years go that has about 500 rounds through it lol. I had it on a SAM-R build and an old school M4 build back in the day. I have a 12.5' upper that I originally built for it with a 9.5" rail. I'm now thinking of running it under a PRI rail or building a 223 bolt gun to use it on so it actually gets used.

[Trooper224]

Don't know if bad ideas, but perhaps not always practical.

1873 Winchesters (current rave). 1894 Winchesters. 1886 Winchesters. 1892 Winchesters. 1866 Winchesters. Colt single actions. Ruger single actions. Blued anything, over anything else except maybe nickel. N frame Smiths. WWI era 1911's. P08 Lugers. Shooting longer distances with all sorts of rifles, some perhaps not assumed to be long range shooters (like 94 Winchesters, also didn't realize for a long time how much fun an AR is to shoot at 600-900 yards). Shooting one handed. At distance (300 yards etc). Shooting stuff in the air. Black powder cartridges. Percussion conversion guns (Colt type).

Sounds like an ideal battery to me.

I swear, some of you guys must think fun and cancer are the same thing. :)

[Welder]

Spanish Destroyer Carbine in 9mm Para, if I can ever find one. Plenty of Bergmanns / Largos out there.

Ruger No. 1 in .25-20. Would have to be a custom build but I luv that caliber.

Ruger 77/357 in .256 Win Mag - another custom.

Ruger No. 1 in .450/400. I do have one of these in the heavy barrel variant which is quite rare.

Add me to the list of those who lust after a Delta Elite 10mm for no good reason.

A Winchester 54 or commercial Mauser in 7.65 Argentine to go with my '09 Mausers. Would have to sell my house to buy one, though.

Finally, I'd like a modern, small bolt rifle in either 9mm Luger or .25-20. Easy to carry, not tactical, with open sights...something like a CZ 527.

[Drang]

A lot of these guns being listed are only bad ideas if you're spending the mortgage money on them.

I think of "bad ideas" guns as, you know, packing a 1911 with no round chambered, or carrying a Judge. Or using one of those stupid OG FAM holsters, with a trigger lock through the trigger guard.

[Clobbersaurus]

Pistol Calibre Carbines.

I have irrational lust to make them something they are not.

Damn their common mags and handiness!

[Drang]

A lot of these guns being listed are only bad ideas if you're spending the mortgage money on them.
Why, oh why did I post that? The FLGS has a S&W 327 R8 in the used case...

[Jared]

A lot of these guns being listed are only bad ideas if you're spending the mortgage money on them.

I think of "bad ideas" guns as, you know, packing a 1911 with no round chambered, or carrying a Judge. Or using one of those stupid OG FAM holsters, with a trigger lock through the trigger guard.

In fairness to myself, it was late when I wrote the OP. I agree with your sentiment, I was just trying to be a bit humorous.

[Drang]

Well, spending the mortgage money on a Delta Elite -- or an M&P R8 -- would be a bad idea, just not as bad as only carrying when you "think" you'll need it...

[Jared]

Don't know if bad ideas, but perhaps not always practical.

1873 Winchesters (current rave). 1894 Winchesters. 1886 Winchesters. 1892 Winchesters. 1866 Winchesters. Colt single actions. Ruger single actions. Blued anything, over anything else except maybe nickel. N frame Smiths. WWI era 1911's. P08 Lugers. Shooting longer distances with all sorts of rifles, some perhaps not assumed to be long range shooters (like 94 Winchesters, also didn't realize for a long time how much fun an AR is to shoot at 600-900 yards). Shooting one handed. At distance (300 yards etc). Shooting stuff in the air. Black powder cartridges. Percussion conversion guns (Colt type).

Just because I'm in danger of a lever gun affliction myself, are we talking original 92, 94, 73 Winchester rifles or reproductions from Italy, or the current production Winchester rifles made in Japan, or all of the above?

Once upon a time I had a Browning B92 in 44 Mag that I sold because I'm an IDIOT and it wouldn't feed SWC's. Since I would not load 44's back then unless they had a SWC on top, that rifle and I never meshed. Sold it to a guy that was big into SASS competition. He eventually got rid of it. No idea where it is now.

[okie john]

Mausers. Just...Mausers.


Okie John

[Paul D]

A double rifle in 500 N.E. Yep....not good.

[BehindBlueI's]

That anything new probably sucks and/or will get you killed in the streets....but only because it's true. :D

[JR1572]

While I don't like 1911s whatever guns were in the Romeo and Juliet movie with DiCaprio, those were cool.

I think it was a Para Ordinance (sp) P13.

JR1572

[fatdog]

Pistol caliber carbines and gen 2/3 Smiths.

[Gray222]

I think it was a Para Ordinance (sp) P13.

JR1572

googled it and didn't come up...

these are the guns i'm talkin about

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ld80.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/71/0e/91/710e91df3590af2ee4034e6a867a4640.jpg

cool before it was cool

http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/88/RJ-00749.jpg

[farscott]

Revolvers chambered for rimless cartridges. I have owned S&W M547, S&W M610, three (2", 3", and 5") different S&W M625, S&W 646, Ruger SP-101 in 9x19, Ruger Security-Six in 9x19, and a Ruger Blackhawk in 10mm/.38-40. Great on paper, but less that great execution. The best one was the Buckeye Blackhawk.

[Hambo]

googled it and didn't come up...

these are the guns i'm talkin about

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ld80.jpg


Taurus 92 that had a bad run in with a milling machine.

[Joe in PNG]

Taurus 92 that had a bad run in with a milling machine.
Yeah, but still just a Taurus. Carry on!

[Bigghoss]

Pistol caliber carbines and gen 2/3 Smiths.

Forgot about the Smith 4506. Add that one to my stupid list. Almost had one a while back but the dealer and I just couldn't find a middle ground. Shoulda just coughed up the extra $50.



Revolvers chambered for rimless cartridges. I have owned S&W M547, S&W M610, three (2", 3", and 5") different S&W M625, S&W 646, Ruger SP-101 in 9x19, Ruger Security-Six in 9x19, and a Ruger Blackhawk in 10mm/.38-40. Great on paper, but less that great execution. The best one was the Buckeye Blackhawk.

I'm right there with you. I have a 625 now and would like an LCR 9mm, though I guess the LCR isn't really that impractical. I would turn tricks in an alley for a Security-Six in 9mm though. Kinda have the urge to have a GP100 rechambered for 10mm. And for some reason I want a 5-shot .45acp.


I just sent Ruger a comment stating my desire for them to sell a GP100 and SP101 cut to work with 9mm in moon clips like their .45 redhawk can do .45acp in clips.

[jondoe297]

FLGR in 1911s.

[Jared]

Bumping my old thread because I caved today...

That Delta I'd been ogling, they sold it, then the guy traded it back in because he really wanted a 10 mm Sig. And they were blowing out used guns this weekend, so I got a much better price on the thing than I would have if I'd impulse bought earlier when I first saw it. And what the hell, my birthday is right around the corner.

I also bought a case of Sellier and bellot ammo for it. At the rate I'll likely shoot it, that should last me a long time.

[theJanitor]

2011's.

[Drang]

Not really a bad idea, so much as a waste of time: Trying to convince colleagues to spend their money on ammo and training instead of new guns. especially guns of marginal quality.

[El Cid]

Mine was the PS-90 that I wanted to SBR and run with a can. I knew the ammo sucked for anti-personnel purposes... it was just so cool to see a 50 round shoulder weapon that could fit in a tool box. It was fun as hell to shoot, but I ended up trading it away during a moment of clarity. I'll confess though I had stocked up on mags and still have a stash of them "just in case" I ever head back down that road. lol!

[RevolverRob]

Revolvers.

Submachine Guns.

Any kind of magazine fed shotgun.

Any handgun not a Glock or HK.

Any AR-pattern rifle not a Colt or HK

[JSGlock34]

A Bren Ten...in a leather shoulder holster.

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In my defense, I was a teenager when Miami Vice was at its height, and Galco's advertising inspired all kinds of bad ideas.

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h434/Lifeguard2005/IMG_0089_zpsd89d9c8b.jpg

[LHS]

I have a bayonet mount for an 870.

[Patrick Taylor]

Still waiting for a SIG MPX with .40 and .357SIG barrels.

[busdriver]

Beretta with an SGS comp. Like in "Leon the Professional."

[peterb]

A Springfield Trapdoor Carbine.
http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda-prodotto.asp/l_en/idpr_223/rifles-springfield-trapdoor-springfield-trapdoor-carbine.html

I have absolutely no use for one, but it's a great-looking gun.

[TDA]

I finally went Delta when I found this first edition stainless in a local shop. Turns out the owner had dropped it in the parking lot and maybe kicked it, so the price was right. I drove it back over to Colt, which is a fun thing you can do here, and asked them to redo it in high polish for stainless. And I can't lie, I have ZERO rounds through it, I'm an awful person, but I'm definitely getting around to it.


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[abu fitna]

Baby Browning.

HK P7.

Sig P232 and Walther PPK

[TDA]

In my 1980's fantasy, the Delta was blued with the red triangle grips and came with an AR15A2 Delta HBAR with the factory cheek rest. What I got instead was an A2 Government Carbine, which I did not proceed to Camp Perry with. it's a good gun for hunting paper at 50 yards, really makes it a challenge.

[Lester Polfus]

I watched way too much Miami Vice at exactly the right age for it to make a big impression. I'm mostly over it but still have a love for the 10mm. If I were in the same room as a Bren Ten and had entirely too many $100 bills in my pocket, something stupid could happen though.

My Miami Vice upbringing, coupled with the fact that the agency I worked for issued 3rd gen Smiths, has made it difficult to walk away from 4506's and 4566's.

[pangloss]

I have a stainless Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk in .44 mag with a 10.5" bull barrel. I bought it when I was in high school, but now I rarely shoot it. It would make sense to sell it and buy a more practical revolver, but I keep telling myself that some day I'll kill a deer with it. Maybe this year...

[Malamute]

Just because I'm in danger of a lever gun affliction myself, are we talking original 92, 94, 73 Winchester rifles or reproductions from Italy, or the current production Winchester rifles made in Japan, or all of the above?

Once upon a time I had a Browning B92 in 44 Mag that I sold because I'm an IDIOT and it wouldn't feed SWC's. Since I would not load 44's back then unless they had a SWC on top, that rifle and I never meshed. Sold it to a guy that was big into SASS competition. He eventually got rid of it. No idea where it is now.


A double rifle in 500 N.E. Yep....not good.

Yeah, all of the above. Most of the older stuff has crept up out my my budget. Wish Id kept some of the original 86s I sold off in the past. The Brownings are excellent guns though. Older 94s can be had somewhat reasonably if they aren't perfect collectibles. Either altered guns, or parts guns can still make good shooters and working guns. You can occasionally stumble across parts that are buildable into a gun again, like a complete receiver and barrel. I think I had enough parts sitting at home to complete that one. It has the early type carbine leaf sight, usually called a ladder sight. I managed to ding the 600 yard plate with it first time trying it at that range. Had a spotter to work me in on it, it was getting on towards dusk, I couldn't see my own hits.

My Browning 92 works OK with the Lyman 429421 loaded in spl cases, they are too long loaded in mag cases. The cartridge stop on the carrier can be cut back, but its going to get pretty short of cut enough to feed the Lyman bullets in mag cases. I also decided there was more than one kind of bullet worth using. Going to fool with 200 gr JHPs some at medium velocities. Also want to get a Lyman 429215 mold. I think they work OK in the mag cases in the Browning, the nose isn't as long. Also, less lead evaporating at every shot. Wheel weights are getting harder to find free or cheap.

Nice bullet and load in the Browning 92 is a commercial 200 gr RNFP cast bullet with 9 grs Unique. It runs about what the original 44-40 loads did in carbines, around 1300 fps, very pleasant to shoot and feeds very well.

I had a brief infatuation with a pair of Keighoff double rifles at Cabelas in Sidney Neb once. The guns were 470 NE and 500 NE, and about $12K each. Ammo was about $200/box of 20. Sort of cooled my jets pretty quick.

[Paul D]

Yeah, all of the above. Most of the older stuff has crept up out my my budget. Wish Id kept some of the original 86s I sold off in the past. The Brownings are excellent guns though. Older 94s can be had somewhat reasonably if they aren't perfect collectibles. Either altered guns, or parts guns can still make good shooters and working guns. You can occasionally stumble across parts that are buildable into a gun again, like a complete receiver and barrel. I think I had enough parts sitting at home to complete that one. It has the early type carbine leaf sight, usually called a ladder sight. I managed to ding the 600 yard plate with it first time trying it at that range. Had a spotter to work me in on it, it was getting on towards dusk, I couldn't see my own hits.

My Browning 92 works OK with the Lyman 429421 loaded in spl cases, they are too long loaded in mag cases. The cartridge stop on the carrier can be cut back, but its going to get pretty short of cut enough to feed the Lyman bullets in mag cases. I also decided there was more than one kind of bullet worth using. Going to fool with 200 gr JHPs some at medium velocities. Also want to get a Lyman 429215 mold. I think they work OK in the mag cases in the Browning, the nose isn't as long. Also, less lead evaporating at every shot. Wheel weights are getting harder to find free or cheap.

Nice bullet and load in the Browning 92 is a commercial 200 gr RNFP cast bullet with 9 grs Unique. It runs about what the original 44-40 loads did in carbines, around 1300 fps, very pleasant to shoot and feeds very well.

I had a brief infatuation with a pair of Keighoff double rifles at Cabelas in Sidney Neb once. The guns were 470 NE and 500 NE, and about $12K each. Ammo was about $200/box of 20. Sort of cooled my jets pretty quick.

1. I traded a Sebenza knife to get a Browning 92. Best. Trade. Ever.
2. The price for a double is jet cooling....but not as frigid as the cost to use it for its intended purpose...in Africa.

[Malamute]

Yeah, if Africa was in the program, a double is probably not outrageous. For anything Id do in the Rockies, a 45-70 or 338 would take care of it, just not with quite as much panache.


Good trade for the Browning. Very nice little carbine. I keep thinking of having it trimmed to 17", same OAL as the chopped 94 carbine with 16 1/2" barrel. That makes a nice truck gun size. Should be less blasty with the 44 rather than the 30-30 in that length.

[Paul D]

Yeah, if Africa was in the program, a double is probably not outrageous. For anything Id do in the Rockies, a 45-70 or 338 would take care of it, just not with quite as much panache.


Good trade for the Browning. Very nice little carbine. I keep thinking of having it trimmed to 17", same OAL as the chopped 94 carbine with 16 1/2" barrel. That makes a nice truck gun size. Should be less blasty with the 44 rather than the 30-30 in that length.

I have the .44 MAG Browning 92. I want to cut it down and replace the sights but I want to replace the sights. Alas not a lot of aftermarket stuff beyond reusing the old front sight and old buckhorn rears.

[Drang]

Jungle Carbine.

Sounds great, until you discover the damned things can't hold zero worth a damn. (I realize this fact is in dispute, but I've never met anyone who actually shot one who claimed they were a rifleman's rifle, so...)

If the Gibbs Rifle Company were still turning Ishapore SMLEs into Number 5's, though...

[Malamute]

I have the .44 MAG Browning 92. I want to cut it down and replace the sights but I want to replace the sights. Alas not a lot of aftermarket stuff beyond reusing the old front sight and old buckhorn rears.

I drilled and tapped mine for a Lyman receiver sight. It had a tang sight, but about 10 minutes and I decided I was done with that.

If you have it cut, its simple to dovetail the barrel, but I like the old type sights. The front sight on mine was dimpled on its rear face by a former user, it had white paint, it now holds bright orange paint nicely. The same base can be split like the original ones were and a blade pinned in. Once that's done, you can do a bit more with it. I ground down a Sourdough blade in my 94.

If you get it cut and dovetailed, save the front sight and I'll give you something for it.

[gkieser92]

I keep daydreaming about:
Ruger Gunsite Scout
Remington 760P
Tiger SP101 in .327
Desert Eagles

Currently have:
Kel-Tec Sub 2000 (Like most Kel-Tecs, this gun could be good if it was made by someone else.)
DSA STG-58 (Beautiful gun with no practical application.)

[Rex G]

Compact 1911 pistols. After a run of bad luck with several, in the Eighties and Nineties, I had sworn-off anything smaller than a Government Model by the Twenty-First Century. Now, however, the Colt New Agent keeps beckoning. It will not stop. I have a reliable G26. Yet, the New Agent calls out to me.

N-Frame, big-bore revolvers, especially Magnums. My hands are long, but my fingers are not, so getting enough finger on the trigger, to shoot double-action, required using skimpy grip panels, and and an undortunate tendency to default to an imperfect, off-center grip. The resulting recoil and torque adversely affected the base joint of my right thumb, and wrecked my right wrist. By the Nineties, I realized the error of my ways, and used K/L-Frames and GP100 sixguns, but the cumulative damage had been done.

I have now remedied the N-Frame Magnum error. My relatively new .454/.45 Colt Super Redhawk Alaskan will probably never see a .454 Casull cartridge enter the cylinder, and if so, I will not be firing it right-handed. I can reach the trigger properly, with this one, so it is not a bad idea, and fortunately, I am relatively ambidextrous with handguns. We do plan to travel to places where big brown things walk the earth, so this was a practical purchase.

[HCountyGuy]

A Legion P229 in .357 SIG

One has been sitting in the LGS for a while now, I can't help but eye-hump it every time I'm in there.

Could I afford to run it regularly? Hell no.

[Hambo]

OK, here's another one: stupid large flame throwing calibers in TC Encore barrels. I already have 15" barrels in .223, 7mm-08, .30-06, and .358 Winchester, but they just don't provide the earth shattering kaboom or scorched earth fireball I'm looking for. Among the candidates: .460 S&W, .445 Supermag, .475 JDJ.

[HCM]

A Legion P229 in .357 SIG

One has been sitting in the LGS for a while now, I can't help but eye-hump it every time I'm in there.

Could I afford to run it regularly? Hell no.

All it needs is a .40 barrel or better yet a Bar sto 9mm conversion barrel - best of both worlds.

[HCountyGuy]

All it needs is a .40 barrel or better yet a Bar sto 9mm conversion barrel - best of both worlds.

True enough, but lately for some reason I've had some stupid gravitation towards wanting something in .357 Sig. I could just buy a conversion kit for my current P229, but it'd wind up an expensive shelf-weight for most of the year.

[Greg]

Don't know if bad ideas, but perhaps not always practical.

1873 Winchesters (current rave). 1894 Winchesters. 1886 Winchesters. 1892 Winchesters. 1866 Winchesters. Colt single actions. Ruger single actions. Blued anything, over anything else except maybe nickel. N frame Smiths. WWI era 1911's. P08 Lugers. Shooting longer distances with all sorts of rifles, some perhaps not assumed to be long range shooters (like 94 Winchesters, also didn't realize for a long time how much fun an AR is to shoot at 600-900 yards). Shooting one handed. At distance (300 yards etc). Shooting stuff in the air. Black powder cartridges. Percussion conversion guns (Colt type).

There is not even a trace of a bad idea in this list.

[Dagga Boy]

If the Gibbs Rifle Company were still turning Ishapore SMLEs into Number 5's, though...

So.....I "know a guy" who has one he has never shot sitting in the bottom of the safe, and is always up for interesting trades, especially on revolvers......just sayin .

[Drang]

If I ever come up with any trade-worthy revolvers I am willing to part with, I'll let you know. :)

[jetfire]

I was just posting about my favorite dumb idea that I can't let go of today on Facebook.

Back when I was running and carrying wheelyguns exclusively, I was a big fan of the "one cartridge" concept, which was basically get a good revolver in .357 and a good levergun in the same cartridge. The idea was to keep logistics simple and have a pistol/rifle combo that could share ammo and be good for pretty much everything from CCW to harvesting meat. With the right bullet a .357 is even in the conversation for defense against dangerous game in North America.

I still like that idea for a lot of reasons, as I'm formulating my shooting project for 2017 I've really thought hard about revisiting and modernizing the idea. Partly because leverguns are low capacity and slow to reload, but the idea of a modern self-loading rifle that share magazines with my EDC pistol is cool.

But that leads me to the question of what cartridge? It needs to be something that's versatile and legal to harvest deer with, at least in South Dakota. For service caliber pistol cartridges, that leaves me with three choices: .45 ACP (loaded hot), .357 Sig and the ubiquitous .40 S&W. Since I want this project to be about as close to a "do anything" pairing, that cuts out .357 Sig because it's worthless as a competition round outside of Open.

That leaves me with .45 ACP and .40 SW, and to be honest my carbine choices in .45 are pretty slim. I could shell out 1500 bucks for a KRISS but I've already done that road in the past. The KRISS is neat but I don't feel like the juice is worth the squeeze. Plus, I really like the idea of a 180 grain JHP from a .40 carbine at like 1200 FPS. I don't know why I like that, I just do. It mimics the velocity of a .357 Magnum but with a heavier bullet.

Maybe I'm just trying to talk myself into a .40 AR carbine. Anyone know if those Just Right Carbines are worth a crap? My options for a 40 carbine are limited to things that take Glock mags and I won't touch another Sub-2000 as long as I live since I saw one in .40 SW blow itself up.


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[fatdog]

A Springfield Trapdoor Carbine.
http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/scheda-prodotto.asp/l_en/idpr_223/rifles-springfield-trapdoor-springfield-trapdoor-carbine.html

I have absolutely no use for one, but it's a great-looking gun.

I have it, it is a blast, I actually compete with mine as the branch of cowboy action stuff I compete in (NCOWS) now has a division at the local club level that limits you to a single shot breach loading black powder carbine and a single action pistol. Of course you have to load black powder cartridges only, and it would be crazy to feed a trap door anything smokeless.

I find it challenging to hit stuff past 200 yards with the carbine, but talk about making a steel plate sing...that little carbine will do it. When I show up at the range to practice it generates so much attention I have to let everybody have a go with it. "Italian Firearms Group" who ever that is has been importing them the last few years at lower prices than some of the other cowboy brands that go on the Pedersoli's. It is a well made gun with a very good .458 barrel and a decent trigger for its type.

[RevolverRob]

I was just posting about my favorite dumb idea that I can't let go of today on Facebook.

Back when I was running and carrying wheelyguns exclusively, I was a big fan of the "one cartridge" concept, which was basically get a good revolver in .357 and a good levergun in the same cartridge. The idea was to keep logistics simple and have a pistol/rifle combo that could share ammo and be good for pretty much everything from CCW to harvesting meat. With the right bullet a .357 is even in the conversation for defense against dangerous game in North America.

I still like that idea for a lot of reasons, as I'm formulating my shooting project for 2017 I've really thought hard about revisiting and modernizing the idea. Partly because leverguns are low capacity and slow to reload, but the idea of a modern self-loading rifle that share magazines with my EDC pistol is cool.

But that leads me to the question of what cartridge? It needs to be something that's versatile and legal to harvest deer with, at least in South Dakota. For service caliber pistol cartridges, that leaves me with three choices: .45 ACP (loaded hot), .357 Sig and the ubiquitous .40 S&W. Since I want this project to be about as close to a "do anything" pairing, that cuts out .357 Sig because it's worthless as a competition round outside of Open.

That leaves me with .45 ACP and .40 SW, and to be honest my carbine choices in .45 are pretty slim. I could shell out 1500 bucks for a KRISS but I've already done that road in the past. The KRISS is neat but I don't feel like the juice is worth the squeeze. Plus, I really like the idea of a 180 grain JHP from a .40 carbine at like 1200 FPS. I don't know why I like that, I just do. It mimics the velocity of a .357 Magnum but with a heavier bullet.

Maybe I'm just trying to talk myself into a .40 AR carbine. Anyone know if those Just Right Carbines are worth a crap? My options for a 40 carbine are limited to things that take Glock mags and I won't touch another Sub-2000 as long as I live since I saw one in .40 SW blow itself up.


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Stop shooting .40 and go back to .357 Magnum. Problem solved.

Actually, I think this is, as you suggest, a "bad gun idea". To be fair and honest, I love my little 9mm AR, it's a hoot to shoot, cheap to feed, and "simplifies" my life. But the pistol-caliber carbine isn't anything grand when it comes to longer-distance engagements or even close distance engagements unless you can use high volume.

At this point in my life, I intend to keep the 9mm AR, because it is handy, but my next rifle is just going to be an 5.56 AR combined with my 9mm handgun. I'm actually thinking about selling off some more revolvers to fund it...but I feel dirty thinking about that...

[HCM]

True enough, but lately for some reason I've had some stupid gravitation towards wanting something in .357 Sig. I could just buy a conversion kit for my current P229, but it'd wind up an expensive shelf-weight for most of the year.

If your current P229 is a 40 all you need is a factory .357 barrel.

[LHS]

Jungle Carbine.

Sounds great, until you discover the damned things can't hold zero worth a damn. (I realize this fact is in dispute, but I've never met anyone who actually shot one who claimed they were a rifleman's rifle, so...)

If the Gibbs Rifle Company were still turning Ishapore SMLEs into Number 5's, though...

I have an Ishy SMLE that Century turned into a No.5, does that count?

[LHS]

A double rifle in 500 N.E. Yep....not good.

Having shot several doubles in various calibers, up to and including .600NE, I am a firm believer in the .450-400 3". It gets you plenty of oomph for killing damn near anything that moves in Africa, but is easier on the shoulder and the wallet than the truly big-bores. Plus, there's factory support now, Hornady is making brass, dies, projos and loaded ammo.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I bought a NAA 22S minirevolver because it looked cute. There is a cuteness metric that makes babies and puppies look cute. The math can be applied to objects to make them look cute. Done with cars, etc. So by chance the NAA looked cute so I bought it for $120. Can't hit a thing with it at any distance. I've put in a pocket for grins. So that's a bad idea gun.

The other is the new http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/11/11/pedersoli-howdah-45410-double-barrel-pistol/ . I just like the looks of it. Mad Max - apocalypse gun. Load it the self-defense 410s developed for the Judge and what more could you want?

Stop me before I do it.

[LockedBreech]

I'm sure it has already been posted, but I want a Beretta CX4 Carbine SO BAD. I have factory 30-round Beretta 92 magazines for one, they have a good rep as reliable (albeit with a bad trigger) and they'd match my Beretta sidearms.

The reason it makes no sense is that I own a Daniel Defense AR-15. If I'm going to be carrying a carbine-length weapon, I should be shooting a round with rifle-grade ballistics. If I'm in my home, there's practically no situation where a pistol-caliber carbine makes more sense than my handguns, my 870, or my AR-15.

But the Colonial Marines used them in the Battlestar remake and they look SO COOL.

[serialsolver]

A mule ear coach gun in 12 bore.

Crazy joe approved and all his fault.

Well, not really but that's the story I'm sticking to.


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[Robinson]

A mule ear coach gun in 12 bore.

I must confess I keep thinking about a side-by-side 12 gauge myself. Not sure if I want a coach gun or something a bit longer, and also not sure I'd opt for exposed hammers. Maybe though.

The Stoeger Uplander Youth Shotgun in 20 gauge with 22" barrel looks handy.

It is very unlikely I will ever go forward with this idea.

[Malamute]

A double with ejectors could be a fairly useful item.

I believe Cooper or somebody mentioned that some bodyguards in 3rd world places were sometimes given single shot shotguns. They were thus armed, but if the gun was turned against them, or captured, was of limited usefulness. Not sure how valid the reasoning is to us today, but with knowledge (and spare loads), the gun would be useful for defense, and if "captured" by an intruder, theyd have limited use of it. I do consider what arms are laying about if I were out of the cabin in the yard or doing something and wasn't paying full attention to the door.

I kind of like the idea of having a stash gun in an outbuilding when I'm in that building or outside and away from the cabin or my vehicle.

Just some random thoughts. Does it help rationalize getting a double?

[jetfire]

A double with ejectors could be a fairly useful item.

I believe Cooper or somebody mentioned that some bodyguards in 3rd world places were sometimes given single shot shotguns. They were thus armed, but if the gun was turned against them, or captured, was of limited usefulness. Not sure how valid the reasoning is to us today, but with knowledge (and spare loads), the gun would be useful for defense, and if "captured" by an intruder, theyd have limited use of it. I do consider what arms are laying about if I were out of the cabin in the yard or doing something and wasn't paying full attention to the door.

I kind of like the idea of having a stash gun in an outbuilding when I'm in that building or outside and away from the cabin or my vehicle.

Just some random thoughts. Does it help rationalize getting a double?

IIRC, Cooper was a pretty big fan of the lupara as a general purpose defensive weapon.

[ASH556]

I'm not sure if they're "bad" ideas or not, but I was reading through this thread again and realized I've built the "same" gun over again with at least 3 different platforms. I decided I didn't need or want that particular configuration and then later re-built nearly the exact same thing.

The first is a heavy-barreled Remington 700 in .308. I'm on my 4th version of the setup now. The problem is there's not so much of a place to shoot long range where I am, but I appreciate the capability. So, I sell them when I get sick of them sitting in the safe not doing anything and want to put the money into something else, but then build another one 6 months later when I want it back, lol.

24" 700 varmint, HS PSS takeoff stock with factory DBM, Leupold Custom Shop 4.5-14X40 AO Vari-X III with turrets added.
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/P1030164-1.jpg

20" 700 SPS Tac, HS LTR takeoff stock. Leupold 3.5-10x40 M3, USMC (oval) mil-dot, Vari-x III LR

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/10222011279.jpg

20" 700 LTR. Leupold 3.5-10x40 TMR, Mark 4

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/94FE9FF9-6AC0-471D-8C9C-DEC0448B736C.jpg

16" 700P (chopped and threaded), Leupold Custom Shop VX3i 3.5-10x40, TMR, capped .10 mil turrets

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/0B6CA3A8-69D8-4760-8C8E-1CB4E07EA0C2.jpg

The second is a 21" Benelli M1. I had this setup, then did a barrel swap to a 28" with a longer tube for 3gun.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/Benelli%20m1%20resize.jpg

After deciding to re-direct less time and energy into 3gun, I determined that the 21" was a better overall practical length, so I sold the 28" gun and bought another 21".

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/0540961E-6B3B-49D6-8A33-0E097E0A74EE.jpg

Finally is the MK18. I like the 10.3" + suppressor. I feel like it's a handy, convenient package that can get a lot of work done whether hunting or defense. I had a factory DD MK18 for about 4 or 5 years and talked myself out of it so I sold the upper.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/IMG_8106_1.jpg

6 months later I built this around a Colt SOCOM barrel. Better profile and gas port sizing combined with the lighter Geissele rail make it a better setup, but still nearly identical:

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab104/ASH556/2B4C91AF-909D-469D-8E62-61AE0C045BDF.jpg

[Wondering Beard]

IIRC, Cooper was a pretty big fan of the lupara as a general purpose defensive weapon.

I believe so.

Which makes me want a bird's head pistol grip lupara for no practical purpose other than to wink at my Sicilian godfather.

Also, a Mare's leg in 45-70 with the belt rig like Josh Randall, aka Steve McQueen.

[jetfire]

I believe so.

Which makes me want a bird's head pistol grip lupara for no practical purpose other than to wink at my Sicilian godfather.

Also, a Mare's leg in 45-70 with the belt rig like Josh Randall, aka Steve McQueen.

And if you get the lupara made that way from the gate, it's just a cute little AOW not an SBS!

[serialsolver]

I must confess I keep thinking about a side-by-side 12 gauge myself. Not sure if I want a coach gun or something a bit longer, and also not sure I'd opt for exposed hammers. Maybe though.

The Stoeger Uplander Youth Shotgun in 20 gauge with 22" barrel looks handy.

It is very unlikely I will ever go forward with this idea.

I like exposed hammers cause you can load it and not have it cocked.

The thought of a loaded and cocked 12 bore swinging by wires under the table scares me.


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[Jim Watson]

Also, a Mare's leg in 45-70 with the belt rig like Josh Randall, aka Steve McQueen.

The Mare's Leg was built on the ubiquitous Win '92, probably .44-40 or .38-40 to take the standard 5 in 1 blank. The big cartridges on his belt were pure P factor.

[serialsolver]

A double with ejectors could be a fairly useful item.

I believe Cooper or somebody mentioned that some bodyguards in 3rd world places were sometimes given single shot shotguns. They were thus armed, but if the gun was turned against them, or captured, was of limited usefulness. Not sure how valid the reasoning is to us today, but with knowledge (and spare loads), the gun would be useful for defense, and if "captured" by an intruder, theyd have limited use of it. I do consider what arms are laying about if I were out of the cabin in the yard or doing something and wasn't paying full attention to the door.

I kind of like the idea of having a stash gun in an outbuilding when I'm in that building or outside and away from the cabin or my vehicle.

Just some random thoughts. Does it help rationalize getting a double?

I also have had (for a long time) the wild ideal of a over/under 12 ga with ejectors and the barrels cut down to 19 inches. Ya know so ya don't have to take out the trash. It seems to me it would be a more modern coach gun.

It doesn't need to be rational cause crazy joe said we need it.


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[Malamute]

The only down side of an over/under is they need to be broken farther to get the bottom barrel to eject and load compared to a side by side. Not sure if that would be an issue or not.

The "perhaps not modern optimal" shotgun that strikes my fancy is a 20 ga Remington model 11 shortened and perhaps with a slightly extended mag tube, similar to the 12 ga version Lost River posted some time ago. One shortened to legal limit on both ends similar to Miss Parkers may be a fair car gun. Sounds reasonable. Sort of. :D

[Wondering Beard]

The Mare's Leg was built on the ubiquitous Win '92, probably .44-40 or .38-40 to take the standard 5 in 1 blank. The big cartridges on his belt were pure P factor.

I know that's why I specified a real 45-70 in that wish list of sorts.

[Wondering Beard]

And if you get the lupara made that way from the gate, it's just a cute little AOW not an SBS!

Hmm, now you got me thinking. Not a good thing.

[jetfire]

Hmm, now you got me thinking. Not a good thing.

A dangerous pastime

[serialsolver]

The only down side of an over/under is they need to be broken farther to get the bottom barrel to eject and load compared to a side by side. Not sure if that would be an issue or not.

The "perhaps not modern optimal" shotgun that strikes my fancy is a 20 ga Remington model 11 shortened and perhaps with a slightly extended mag tube, similar to the 12 ga version Lost River posted some time ago. One shortened to legal limit on both ends similar to Miss Parkers may be a fair car gun. Sounds reasonable. Sort of. :D

I had not considered the swing down to clear the bottom barrel. I'll cross it off the list. That's ok, I like the side by side coach gun better anyway.

[Bigghoss]

...selling off some more revolvers to fund it...but I feel dirty thinking about that...

That's a bad gun idea if I ever heard one.




A double with ejectors could be a fairly useful item.

I believe Cooper or somebody mentioned that some bodyguards in 3rd world places were sometimes given single shot shotguns. They were thus armed, but if the gun was turned against them, or captured, was of limited usefulness. Not sure how valid the reasoning is to us today, but with knowledge (and spare loads), the gun would be useful for defense, and if "captured" by an intruder, theyd have limited use of it. I do consider what arms are laying about if I were out of the cabin in the yard or doing something and wasn't paying full attention to the door.

I kind of like the idea of having a stash gun in an outbuilding when I'm in that building or outside and away from the cabin or my vehicle.

Just some random thoughts. Does it help rationalize getting a double?

If someone would actually make a legit defensive double barrel shotgun I would probably buy one. It would be a very niche gun but could be useful. Problem is they only make regular coach guns colored black. Current "double defense" guns pair well with a Taurus.

[Malamute]

https://www.google.com/search?q=ithaca+double+barrel+shotgun&biw=1188&bih=546&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSw9qn-szQAhUI_WMKHRg9B1kQsAQIJw


http://www.gunbroker.com/item/601448073


http://www.gunbroker.com/item/602108892


http://www.gunbroker.com/Double-Barrel-Shotguns/BI.aspx?Keywords=ithaca&SearchType=1&NoReserve=1&Condition=4

[Corey]

Scout rifles, but only with a true pedestal barrel. Stupid amounts of labor to make but so cool.

The FN FiveSeven pistol. But hey, I got it for under $500 and it is a way fun jackrabbit killer.

[ragnar_d]

A mule ear coach gun in 12 bore.
Same here. There's something that I just like about those old side-by-side coach guns. Maybe it's just all the cowboy movies I watched growing up. It's on my list of my "Guns that I want because I want them, damnit!" Along with:
• 300 Blackout Handi Rifle
• .38/.357 Handi Rifle with a 16" threaded barrel like the AAC Handi Rifle
• A shorty .45-70 lever gun
• Semi M2HB
• MP5 in 10mm

[fatdog]

A mule ear coach gun in 12 bore.

FWIW, I am shooting the Cimarron reproduction of the Colt 1878 double hammer 20" in CAS and love it. Mine was had NIB for about $400. Well executed, and the the hammers don't tear up my hands like the Century and Chiappa attempts at producing a double hammer coach gun, I owned both and those were awful.

If I did not compete with one I would agree it fits the category of this thread however....

[RevolverRob]

MRDS on carry guns.

I can't let this go. I know the foundation of the idea is good. I know that some (many?) people here have found successful gains from running MRDS on their guns. But I haven't found them to be the solution I wanted them to be. I can't find that, for me at least, mythical ground where I can track the dot, use the dot, find the dot like I'm supposed to be able to. I can't even get the damn thing to index right all of the time despite weeks and months of practice.

So, I know that for me, they are a bad "good" gun idea that I just can't let go of. The timer doesn't lie, I'm faster with irons, I shoot better with irons, I can track them better, I do better with them...but I feel like there is some pasture that is greener on the otherside. That if I find just the right combination of trigger/sight/gun/caliber I'll suddenly be there in the land of plenty...

But I just dream of easy 100-yard shots with my carry gun with its red-dot on top. Maybe that's dumb, considering I don't have a hard time making 50-yard shots with irons...

[RevolverRob]

That's a bad gun idea if I ever heard one.

I know.

I also keep thinking of selling off a stack of guns and paying off some personal debt. With the argument that the sooner the wife and I are debt free, the easier it becomes to generate wealth. And then I can buy all the guns I want.

But selling guns is hard. In fact that's my bad gun idea I can't rid of...selling guns.

[LHS]

Because why not go full retard?

12024

[Lex Luthier]

Because why not go full retard?

12024

I have a close family member with strong cletii tendencies, and this would be a subtle mod for him.

[LHS]

Sadly, the mount is pretty much shit. There's no mechanical means of keeping the mount fixed in position, so it shifts forward under recoil. It came with some friction tape, but then I wouldn't be able to get the mag tube off or swap barrels. Very dissatisfied with the overall design. C'est la vie.

[JBhunter45]

I know.

I also keep thinking of selling off a stack of guns and paying off some personal debt. With the argument that the sooner the wife and I are debt free, the easier it becomes to generate wealth. And then I can buy all the guns I want.

But selling guns is hard. In fact that's my bad gun idea I can't rid of...selling guns.

^This Exactly
Never sold one, but have some in safe for 10 years unfired by me.

[45dotACP]

Hmm, bad ideas for me? Packing it off to a suppressor friendly state and making like ASH with the suppressed turn bolts.

Even worse...a lever action 45-70 with suppressor...because F=(M)(A).

if you're gonna reduce my (A) I'm gonna have to maximize the (M)

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[Glenn E. Meyer]

A 4 barrel Sharps pattern derringer.

http://iverjohnsonarms.com/

When I was a kid I loved the Yancy Derringer TV show. Jock Mahoney carried a 4 barrel in each sleeve, two in his vest pockets and one in his hat. HJS made a 22 LR version. I never saw one until I was in Florida and went to the local gun show while visiting family. A guy had a table of them for $95 each. However, it wasn't my state and I wasn't going to bother with an FFL transfer.

So while totally ridiculous, I want one. It's like my NAA 22S revolver - just because.

[El Cid]

Sadly, the mount is pretty much shit. There's no mechanical means of keeping the mount fixed in position, so it shifts forward under recoil. It came with some friction tape, but then I wouldn't be able to get the mag tube off or swap barrels. Very dissatisfied with the overall design. C'est la vie.

You could just buy a Mossberg 590 with the 20" bbl. it comes with a Marine Corps approved bayonet mount.

[Wondering Beard]

Well, the link to Bowen Classical Arms in this post (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?23338-Rumor-3-quot-GP-in-44-SPC-Coming-Out&p=533976#post533976) by Tackleberry40SW in the thread about a possible new Ruger in 44 Special, led me to this set of modifications (http://www.bowenclassicarms.com/workshop.html#327FederalMagnumCartridge) to revolvers and right this second, I'm thinking that a S&W 66 snubby in .327 magnum would be the bee's knees.

Purpose unknown, utility unknown, feasibility unknown but fun and easily carryable? Hell yeah.

[OlongJohnson]

Crap, I'm getting old. How is this thread more than two years old?

I keep going down the rabbit hole a couple times a year on a 6mm long range gun. Because coyotes on the high plains 1000 miles from here, and reasons... Mostly, it appeals to my engineer's drive for optimization. I have convinced myself that 6mm Remington AI is probably the best cartridge solution. You can get there by reaming a .243 Winchester, so it's theoretically tantalizingly easy.

Unfortunately, to load the long bullets (over ~95 grains, I believe), a Rem700 has to be a long action, so you have to either go custom barrel or rechamber a short-action take-off .243 barrel. I think the best budget-oriented package for someone who builds things would probably be a receiver-only (Rem sells them minus barrel and lug), then a Remage package from pick-your-barrel-maker, and a Magpul stock. The cheap way would be buy an SPS and rent a reamer, and try not to kitten it up. But you'd have the bullet limitations of the short action.

If you start with a Howa, you're limited in bullet weight by rechambering a 10 twist factory barrel, or going custom again, and have to modify the receiver and feeding for the long ones either way. Stocks I'd want start around $200 for more traditional and $300 for one oriented toward shooting off bags, by the time it's dialed in the way I want it with options.

It ends up being a near $1000 custom build even trying to do it on the cheap, before glass and reloading tooling and consumables. All for a hunting scenario that is very, very far from existing for me, or to punch paper, which I haven't gotten into as much as I could with guns I already have (like a .223 or something else cheap and easy to get started, duh).

There is really no reason for me to have this gun, but I keep getting caught up in the optimized-ness of the solution and thinking about nuts and bolts of how I'd build it. Wasting hours at a time. Starting to be annoying even to me.

[sharps54]

A double with ejectors could be a fairly useful item.

I believe Cooper or somebody mentioned that some bodyguards in 3rd world places were sometimes given single shot shotguns. They were thus armed, but if the gun was turned against them, or captured, was of limited usefulness. Not sure how valid the reasoning is to us today, but with knowledge (and spare loads), the gun would be useful for defense, and if "captured" by an intruder, theyd have limited use of it. I do consider what arms are laying about if I were out of the cabin in the yard or doing something and wasn't paying full attention to the door.

I kind of like the idea of having a stash gun in an outbuilding when I'm in that building or outside and away from the cabin or my vehicle.

Just some random thoughts. Does it help rationalize getting a double?

I know you didn’t state definitively that you would leave it in the outbuilding when you aren’t there but this story always comes to mind when I hear about leaving guns in the barn. This drifter staked our theor property, kept them under observation and ambushed the husband (former Marine) in the barn with a rifle left out there. Sad story.

http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/death/US/langford441.htm

As far as the thread goes I constantly fight the gun of the week club looking for that next pistol that will be the perfect carry gun. My current desire is to get another 1911 (I’ve had nice customized Colts in the past, none currently) but I know that I’m much better off just sticking with my Tactical Tupperware.

Still I’m awfully tempted to pick up a CCO of some sort, ideally in .38 Super and I’m not even set up to reload anymore... :rolleyes:

[Gun Mutt]

Glock 26. I don't want to go down that rabbit hole again...not a fourth time. I mean, seriously, there's not enough different about the gen 5 to change my opinion, right?

To qualify; I'm a long time, unabashed, Glock guy, the platform works quite nicely for me, please and thank you. When I used to carry a 26.3 as my daily npe at work pistol, I did so grudgingly and if I'd been smart enough to stay j for that role, I'd have been a lot happier the whole time. The 43 replaced it and I still wore a 19 when I was off the clock in comfy clothes. I should add that I'm an AIWB guy, too, and maybe 2x year I'd run the 26 in a 19 holster for deeper concealment, but it's rare that the 26 hides much better than a 19 for my build and manner of dress and I've no plans to go back to IWB.

And this is all a moot point, I'm pretty much all j-frame/LCR all the time anyway, save for bedside 19/WPL, ya feel me?

Wife and I are going to a very nicely appointed range soon, I'm totally renting a 26.5, you know, just to help myself remember why I've sold/traded every 26 I've ever had...fuck.

[Casual Friday]

AK's. Even though an AK was my first a-salt rifle, I've found myself uninterested in shooting or training with them anymore...yet I hang onto a couple of them for some reason. I have 5-6K rounds of 7.62x39 ammo so I'm thinking of putting together an AR upper chambered in it and burning the rest of it up.

[MGW]

Crap, I'm getting old. How is this thread more than two years old?

I keep going down the rabbit hole a couple times a year on a 6mm long range gun. Because coyotes on the high plains 1000 miles from here, and reasons... Mostly, it appeals to my engineer's drive for optimization. I have convinced myself that 6mm Remington AI is probably the best cartridge solution. You can get there by reaming a .243 Winchester, so it's theoretically tantalizingly easy.

Unfortunately, to load the long bullets (over ~95 grains, I believe), a Rem700 has to be a long action, so you have to either go custom barrel or rechamber a short-action take-off .243 barrel. I think the best budget-oriented package for someone who builds things would probably be a receiver-only (Rem sells them minus barrel and lug), then a Remage package from pick-your-barrel-maker, and a Magpul stock. The cheap way would be buy an SPS and rent a reamer, and try not to kitten it up. But you'd have the bullet limitations of the short action.

If you start with a Howa, you're limited in bullet weight by rechambering a 10 twist factory barrel, or going custom again, and have to modify the receiver and feeding for the long ones either way. Stocks I'd want start around $200 for more traditional and $300 for one oriented toward shooting off bags, by the time it's dialed in the way I want it with options.

It ends up being a near $1000 custom build even trying to do it on the cheap, before glass and reloading tooling and consumables. All for a hunting scenario that is very, very far from existing for me, or to punch paper, which I haven't gotten into as much as I could with guns I already have (like a .223 or something else cheap and easy to get started, duh).

There is really no reason for me to have this gun, but I keep getting caught up in the optimized-ness of the solution and thinking about nuts and bolts of how I'd build it. Wasting hours at a time. Starting to be annoying even to me.

I’m doing some research for you. I know a guy that’s been shooting a varmint barrel 700 in 6mm for over 30 years. He has a pet load with a lighter bullet that he swears by.

[Malamute]

I know you didn’t state definitively that you would leave it in the outbuilding when you aren’t there but this story always comes to mind when I hear about leaving guns in the barn. This drifter staked our theor property, kept them under observation and ambushed the husband (former Marine) in the barn with a rifle left out there. Sad story.



I dont leave guns anywhere unlocked, and I dont tend to leave outbuildings unlocked, I lock my cabin door when away from it and cant see it even if in the yard. One of the small gun lockers that fit between wall studs and are unobtrusive would be useful in that context (outbuildings) to add another level of concealment and inaccessibility to an unauthorized person. My own preference as an outbuilding gun probably wouldnt be a shotgun unless I moved somewhere more populated though.

I have seen barn guns that farmers left around for birds and pests. They also leave guns in glove boxes of farm vehicles. I knew two farmers that had been chased by skunks with rabies, so they tended to keep guns available after that, but werent very concerned with others laying hands on them.

[sharps54]

I dont leave guns anywhere unlocked, and I dont tend to leave outbuildings unlocked, I lock my cabin door when away from it and cant see it even if in the yard. One of the small gun lockers that fit between wall studs and are unobtrusive would be useful in that context (outbuildings) to add another level of concealment and inaccessibility to an unauthorized person. My own preference as an outbuilding gun probably wouldnt be a shotgun unless I moved somewhere more populated though.

I have seen barn guns that farmers left around for birds and pests. They also leave guns in glove boxes of farm vehicles. I knew two farmers that had been chased by skunks with rabies, so they tended to keep guns available after that, but werent very concerned with others laying hands on them.

Agreed on all counts. There are some very good reasons to have a gun handy and it isn’t always convenient to have it on you but these days there is no excuse it can’t be secured and still readily accessible.

[Cypher]

In spite of all the research I've done and in spite of the fact that almost no one here recommends them I keep thinking I want a Gun chambered in .40 S&W

[Nephrology]

In spite of all the research I've done and in spite of the fact that almost no one here recommends them I keep thinking I want a Gun chambered in .40 S&W

I bought a Gen4 Glock 35 for this reason and don't regret it. If you can find one for ~$400 or less I say do it.

[Mitch]

I bought a Gen4 Glock 35 for this reason and don't regret it. If you can find one for ~$400 or less I say do it.

That or a P229. Softest shooting 40 I’ve ever shot, and plenty of used ones out there.


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[Cypher]

I bought a Gen4 Glock 35 for this reason and don't regret it. If you can find one for ~$400 or less I say do it.


I actually own a Model 4006 which was the .40 S&W. I have a couple thousand rounds of .40 ammunition and a box of SD on hand just in case but it gets zero carry time and because of that I only take it to the range once or twice a year.

When I buy a gun I tend to go down the rabbit hole. If I bought a .40 it would be a 22 or 23 and I'd want (essentially) every magazine I could lay my hands on for it (thank you Jared Polis) and all the ammunition I could talk my wife out of for a gun I'd probably never carry and that wouldn't give me any discernible advantage over a 9mm if I did.

I have limited discretionary income and I think I'd be better off continuing to stock 9mm ammunition and magazines than chasing another rabbit.

[willie]

In spite of all the research I've done and in spite of the fact that almost no one here recommends them I keep thinking I want a Gun chambered in .40 S&W
Nothing wrong and a lot good about a 40. Complaints pertain to wear when issued to pd's. They are less trendy now.

[BehindBlueI's]

In spite of all the research I've done and in spite of the fact that almost no one here recommends them I keep thinking I want a Gun chambered in .40 S&W

There's nothing *wrong* with a .40 S&W. I just don't know it's worth branching out in to if you don't already have the logistics in place. I've still got my Sigs chambered in .40 and a metric butt ton of magazines and ammunition. I'm not going to dump them, but I'm not buying any more of them either. The P229 is a very nice option if you really want a .40.

[JodyH]

.308 > 5.56 and you won't convince me otherwise.

Proud member of the 7.62 master race.
:cool:

[JodyH]

And the Steyr Scout.
Cooper was right and your lightweight AR's are not and never will be a rifleman's rifle.
So there.
:p

[Drang]

Cooper was right and your lightweight AR's are not and never will be a rifleman's rifle.
So there.
:p

The Singularity is due any year now, so there's a good chance we'll still be around when kids playing "Get Bin Laden" today are bitching about how the M47 Phased Plasma Weapon just can't match the good old M16...

[Cypher]

There's nothing *wrong* with a .40 S&W. I just don't know it's worth branching out in to if you don't already have the logistics in place. I've still got my Sigs chambered in .40 and a metric butt ton of magazines and ammunition. I'm not going to dump them, but I'm not buying any more of them either. The P229 is a very nice option if you really want a .40.


It's not so much that there's anything wrong with the .40 S&W cartridge it's just that I don't see enough of an advantage over the 9mm to make me want to chase the rabbit. To make a long story short I simply don't have money to waste on a range toy.

[Duelist]

It's not so much that there's anything wrong with the .40 S&W cartridge it's just that I don't see enough of an advantage over the 9mm to make me want to chase the rabbit. To make a long story short I simply don't have money to waste on a range toy.

I don't really, either, but I have a couple. They are a .357 and a .22. .40 is only tempting because I can get a cool gun I like for cheap.

Maybe someday, after I have a real job again for a while.

[CleverNickname]

.308 > 5.56 and you won't convince me otherwise.


You're wrong. 5.56 - .308 = 5.252

[Radar Love]

That I can do anything more than super basic level "gunsmithing." With the amount of money I've spent on dedicated tools only to do something stupid like not buy a vise or turn on a light before attempting something I saw on a youtube video I could have saved up and paid for some really nice custom work. To be fair half the fun of this hobby for me is in the tinkering, but I've definately gotten over my head a few times and I currently have a ziplock bag full of tiny pieces of what was once a NAA mini revolver to prove it.

[JodyH]

You're wrong. 5.56 - .308 = 5.252


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYhx-QGlotY

[serialsolver]

A s&w m 13 round butt with a 3” standard m10 barrel (thin barrel) dovetail front sight or a 3” m15 barrel with dovetail front sight.

A m13 mountain gun.


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[Cheap Shot]

.308 > 5.56 and you won't convince me otherwise.

Proud member of the 7.62 master race.
:cool:

30-06>.308---------------->5.56 (poodle shooter)

Fixed it for you

[MGW]

Crap, I'm getting old. How is this thread more than two years old?

I keep going down the rabbit hole a couple times a year on a 6mm long range gun. Because coyotes on the high plains 1000 miles from here, and reasons... Mostly, it appeals to my engineer's drive for optimization. I have convinced myself that 6mm Remington AI is probably the best cartridge solution. You can get there by reaming a .243 Winchester, so it's theoretically tantalizingly easy.

Unfortunately, to load the long bullets (over ~95 grains, I believe), a Rem700 has to be a long action, so you have to either go custom barrel or rechamber a short-action take-off .243 barrel. I think the best budget-oriented package for someone who builds things would probably be a receiver-only (Rem sells them minus barrel and lug), then a Remage package from pick-your-barrel-maker, and a Magpul stock. The cheap way would be buy an SPS and rent a reamer, and try not to kitten it up. But you'd have the bullet limitations of the short action.

If you start with a Howa, you're limited in bullet weight by rechambering a 10 twist factory barrel, or going custom again, and have to modify the receiver and feeding for the long ones either way. Stocks I'd want start around $200 for more traditional and $300 for one oriented toward shooting off bags, by the time it's dialed in the way I want it with options.

It ends up being a near $1000 custom build even trying to do it on the cheap, before glass and reloading tooling and consumables. All for a hunting scenario that is very, very far from existing for me, or to punch paper, which I haven't gotten into as much as I could with guns I already have (like a .223 or something else cheap and easy to get started, duh).

There is really no reason for me to have this gun, but I keep getting caught up in the optimized-ness of the solution and thinking about nuts and bolts of how I'd build it. Wasting hours at a time. Starting to be annoying even to me.

Unsolicited but your post peaked my interest in 6mm and I know an SME. I was a little wrong on how long he’s been shooting it. He bought the rifle new in 1967 😲 It’s a 1 in 9 twist varmint weight barrel. I forgot to ask what length. Almost all of his shooting with it has been with his own hand loads.

This is standard 6mm. He said he’s lost track of how many white tails and coyotes he’s shot with it. Said all of his white tails were one shot kills. He said he’s tried just about every bullet and powder combo he could put together and settled on 40 grains of IMR 4350 and an 85 grain jacket boat tail. It’s at the bottom of the load and makes just over 2800 feet per second. He said in that rifle it would shoot dime size groups at 100 yards. This is a bone stock rifle except for a home free float job.

He said he also played with 60 HP’s and was able to get the same accuracy. He didn’t like the load as much because it was at the top of the load and was chronographed at 3675 FPS.

So the potential is there without doing a full custom build. I know you want a heavier bullet but I think the 85 grain will perform just as well on longer range shots as anything else. Should still shoot pretty flat. I shot his rifle a little bit a long time ago and it is as silly accurate as he claims. Way more accurate than I am.

[Duelist]

A s&w m 13 round butt with a 3” standard m10 barrel (thin barrel) dovetail front sight or a 3” m15 barrel with dovetail front sight.

A m13 mountain gun.


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What makes that a bad idea? That sounds like it would be cool. I mean, I like my M13 like it is, but a more svelt barrel profile and dovetail sight would probably both be of the good.

[serialsolver]

What makes that a bad idea? That sounds like it would be cool. I mean, I like my M13 like it is, but a more svelt barrel profile and dovetail sight would probably both be of the good.

Well..... not a bad idea, just an idea I can’t shake off. I’m not a fan of heavy barrels. Maybe I’ll try slab siding the barrel on my m13. Then if I don’t like that try the m15 barrel.

Or get a 3” m60

Or a 3” sp101

Or lcrx

Or get a new king cobra

Too many choices


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[FrankinCA]

Want:
SBR 6920? Like in Heat (not sure the model designation) just know I want one
Sten Gun (WW II variety)
PPSH 41 with drum magazine
Sig P210
Lee Enfield Sporter
Spectre 9mm SMG
Skorpoin SMG
Beretta model 70 (.32)


Why? Hell I don’t know.

[Joe in PNG]

Kind of like my desire for various Century non-AK rifles.

[BN]

My bad idea is when I think I can get a 10-22 to shoot as good as a bolt gun. I'm only a few hundred dollars into this rather than the few thousand some are. ;)

[sharps54]

Well..... not a bad idea, just an idea I can’t shake off. I’m not a fan of heavy barrels. Maybe I’ll try slab siding the barrel on my m13. Then if I don’t like that try the m15 barrel.

Or get a 3” m60

Or a 3” sp101

Or lcrx

Or get a new king cobra

Too many choices


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My understanding is that Colt has a 4” with adjustable sights in the works, maybe wait for that special run of 3” models with adjustable sights (fingers crossed)?

[sharps54]

My bad idea is when I think I can get a 10-22 to shoot as good as a bolt gun. I'm only a few hundred dollars into this rather than the few thousand some are. ;)

I just bought a new 10/22, the third in their collector’s series because it has peep sights, a rail, and a Ruger American style stock with replacement buttpads/combs for length of pull and cheek height. That said the fact it came with a little metal “sign” that has the spitting image of our new puppy didn’t hurt...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/23/ruger-10-22-mans-best-friend/

34685

[Hambo]

I just bought a new 10/22, the third in their collector’s series because it has peep sights, a rail, and a Ruger American style stock with replacement buttpads/combs for length of pull and cheek height. That said the fact it came with a little metal “sign” that has the spitting image of our new puppy didn’t hurt...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/23/ruger-10-22-mans-best-friend/

34685

Buying a rifle because it comes with a Labrador sign makes perfect sense to me. 34686

[sharps54]

Buying a rifle because it comes with a Labrador sign makes perfect sense to me. 34686

Beautiful dogs! Ours is just a mutt, as is his “big sister” in the photo, but we still love them.

[OlongJohnson]

I'm rescuing a cat. Not to get into the details, but it's expensive. But I couldn't get him out of my head. Unbelievably tough little sweetheart.

The gun-related part is that I was working on a Buck Mark when he tried to sneak into my garage, so his name is Moses. There's that other culturally significant figure name Moses who was rescued when young and had a pretty good life, but I didn't think of that for many hours after I'd already decided on Moses.

[Rex G]

I handled a Wilson Combat-ized Gen4 G17 at the local gun enabler. Something about the sunburst-patterned grip texturing. A Gen4 G17 is, already, quite suited for my hands; why, oh why, do I now want a Glock with a $1K texturing job?

[OlongJohnson]

Join us on the DAO dark side. Get a P250 with its revolver-ish trigger. Come shooting with me at the new Shoot Point Blank in Cypress and see how nice it can be. Grip modules are $30.

https://www.amazon.com/Weller-WESD51-Digital-Soldering-Station/dp/B000ARU9PO/

[sharps54]

I'm rescuing a cat. Not to get into the details, but it's expensive. But I couldn't get him out of my head. Unbelievably tough little sweetheart.

The gun-related part is that I was working on a Buck Mark when he tried to sneak into my garage, so his name is Moses. There's that other culturally significant figure name Moses who was rescued when young and had a pretty good life, but I didn't think of that for many hours after I'd already decided on Moses.

Rescue dogs being cheaper is probably my most expensive “bad idea” :rolleyes:

Gadget, the tan one in the photo, was gotten from the sister of someone on ARFCOM who was moving and couldn’t keep her anymore. Of course she had never been to a vet and when we took her she had a heart murmur, stuck flapper valve, that ended with a trip to VA Tech, balloon valvuloplasty, and thousands of dollars within a month or so of getting her. Luckily the stars aligned and the surgery worked beautifully, she isn’t even on blood thinners anymore. That was last January and a few months ago we got Mattie, the little one, (mainly for Gadget) from a Marine vet on ARF whose life work is to save dogs from kill shelters. He has been pretty great but he has some sort of incontinence issue that will probably be expensive. That doesn’t count the cost of the fence we put up in the back yard and the 4Runner we bought to have more room when we all go somewhere...

In one year I think those two have cost more than a lifetime of being a member of the gun of the week club. Probably for the best, lately I’ve been tempted to go back down the 1911 rabbit hole (with a STI Staccato-C no less!) and worrying about his future vet bills will probably convince me to stick to the Glocks I already own.

[Casual Friday]

Want:
SBR 6920? Like in Heat (not sure the model designation) just know I want one

That would be a Colt 733.

[That Guy]

Mini-14. Yes, objectively thinking, the rifle is a turd when compared to a good AR or AK. But I still enjoy taking mine to the range.

[Bigghoss]

It took me a long time to get over my lust for a Mini-14 tactical. I don't really know what finally cured me, I guess all the reasons I shouldn't bother finally sunk in.