"New" PF Hat Group Buy: Feeler

[RJ]

I'd like to suggest a Group Buy for consideration.

Currently, there is a single Pistol-Training ball cap available in the web store:

http://shop.spreadshirt.com/p-tc/

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Now, I'm sure this is a nice hat, but I spend MUCH more time on Pistol Forum than Pistol Training. And I'm not a fan of the logo (there, I said it.). I'm also not a fan of black.

Ok, so I would like to suggest a different option.

Picture an all orange hat, with the same PF logo currently used on the Tapatalk home page. Like this:

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...but in the shape of a hat.

So, the reason I like this design is that first, it is not immediately recognizable as a 'gun' hat. Meaning, it promotes Gray Man. I could wear it to the mall food court, and not get made by the general public.

Second, if you *are* on P-F.com, it will be immediately seen for what it is.

Third, it's orange, which increases visibility.

Fourth, it would not require a lot of fiddling around with a logo, it's just two letters, on an orange background.

Since ya'll probably aren't thrilled with putting up the cash to commission a run of these for a future "maybe" sale, I'd like permission to run a Group Buy thread, solicit interest, and somehow work out payments.

I would volunteer to help curate the Group Buy, take comments, keep a list of interested parties, and bring the Group Buy back to the Leadership to decide if they want to pursue.

Thoughts?

Yes?

No?

Maybe?

[RoyGBiv]

P-F.....

[JDM]

I'm into it.

With the one stipulation being that it needs to be a good quality hat.

Think New Era 39thirty or similar.

http://shop.neweracap.com/new-era/style_blank-39thirty-cap/20651366

[WobblyPossum]

In for one if its a snapback or Velcro adjustable. My head is small and even those s/m flex fit hats are too large and look weird


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[orionz06]

I almost never wear hats but would grab one because reasons, assuming it is not a cheap ass party favor hat with velcro or snaps.



In for one if its a snapback or Velcro adjustable. My head is small and even those s/m flex fit hats are too large and look weird


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Get a large?

[helothar]

I'd be in for one as long as it's bigger than whatever bravo company sends out with their stuff

[MGW]

I would prefer a gray hat with an orange logo but that's just me. The only time I wear an orange hat around here is hunting. In my area hunters aren't always looked upon favorably. Not for PETA reasons but because of "dumb ass hunter" reasons. Kind of hard to explain.


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[LittleLebowski]

Interested.

[Totem Polar]

Interested, with similar caveats: high quality, not cheap ass generic and (if I may be so bold) a slightly longer than typical bill, since I'd probably be, you know, shooting on a line with it and all.

[Mike C]

I'd rock one.

[ReverendMeat]

the only hat I've ever liked was the one BCM sent with my upper. If it were similar to that and NOT all orange (jimbo in south park wears an all orange hat. c'mon.) I'd be interested.

[karmapolice]

Count me in as interested for sure. I like snap backs and or Velcro adjustments though, so maybe two versions. Orange front with grey mesh in the back would be cool like black palms range hats. http://www.blackpalm.net/Range-Day-Hat--Multicam-Tropic_p_81.html I love that hat but it's too Timmy for anything but the range/classes.

[MVS]

Wow, I am sorta bummed they sell this hat. I got mine taking a class with Todd years ago and thought that made me a special snowflake.:D

[GMSweet]

I'm in for a good lightweight material orange hat. Orange is my color!

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[voodoo_man]

I despise wearing a hat with a center button thing. Makes my head hurt when I wear ear protection.

[RJ]

Right, I'll take that (^^^ all the above comments) as a yes.

Let me get with the Leadership and see what vendors are available within their current eCommerce system, linked in the OP.

It occured to me the orange PF logo would also make a cool velcro morale patch; I'll leave that idea as a homework assignment for another day.

Be back in a day or three with some options.

Mods: if there is a Group Buy forum, please could this thread get towed there. Or, I'm fine if it sits here if you'd prefer.

Actually I'm not sure if we *have* a group buy forum...?

[miller_man]

I'm in if its not all orange.

[RJ]

I despise wearing a hat with a center button thing. Makes my head hurt when I wear ear protection.

Agree. I remove it on mine with pliers.


the only hat I've ever liked was the one BCM sent with my upper. If it were similar to that and NOT all orange (jimbo in south park wears an all orange hat. c'mon.) I'd be interested.

Noted. Maybe gray as an option?


Interested, with similar caveats: high quality, not cheap ass generic and (if I may be so bold) a slightly longer than typical bill, since I'd probably be, you know, shooting on a line with it and all.

Unfortunately I'd guess it will be a one style suits many deal.


I would prefer a gray hat with an orange logo but that's just me. The only time I wear an orange hat around here is hunting. In my area hunters aren't always looked upon favorably. Not for PETA reasons but because of "dumb ass hunter" reasons. Kind of hard to explain.


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Ok, second vote for a gray option.


In for one if its a snapback or Velcro adjustable. My head is small and even those s/m flex fit hats are too large and look weird


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Agree. I have a nice cloth upwardly mobile German car hat with velcro. It's nice.


I'm into it.

With the one stipulation being that it needs to be a good quality hat.

Think New Era 39thirty or similar.

http://shop.neweracap.com/new-era/style_blank-39thirty-cap/20651366

As noted, it might depend on what they offer.


P-F.....

Ha! Yeah, maybe, but the logo is a good simple one. Ultimately, the branding of what is decided will be up to the owners (Tom et al) since they own the copyright.

[El Cid]

I'm interested and agree all orange is less than desirable.

What about putting TLG somewhere discreetly on it? Maybe on the back under an American flag or something?

ETA: I recently picked up a '47 brand hat and it is very good quality as is the Geissele hat I received after an order (not home at the moment to see what manufacturer they use).

[Clobbersaurus]

Interested. I would rock it at my club matches to counter the doodie project shirts I see there. :cool:

[taadski]

Interested. I would rock it at my club matches to counter the doodie project shirts I see there. :cool:

One does not counter the other, fine Sir! They embellish one another. 😈

I like Les' idea for a design, personally. :cool: Maybe better suited for a shirt though I guess...


http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/taadski/Mobile%20Uploads/D33F6E3A-524D-4FA2-884B-BFF6EFA28EEC_zps5bozuxfh.jpg (http://s388.photobucket.com/user/taadski/media/Mobile%20Uploads/D33F6E3A-524D-4FA2-884B-BFF6EFA28EEC_zps5bozuxfh.jpg.html)


Regardless, Rich, you can count me in for whatever design prevails.

[hiro]

I'm not much of a hat guy but I'm in. Prefer low key, grey with logo in whatever colour. Am in for TLG on the hat and will happily pay extra/donate to Rampage if offered as an option.

If you want to do a (merino) beanie for the winter I am definitely in.

:)

[Duelist]

Interested.

[FNFAN]

Grey would be cool. In.

[The Apprentice]

I'd be in my vote would be for gray.

[hufnagel]

In. In.

[da6dspanburg]

Count me in.

[punkey71]

In


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[RJ]

Ok, it seems that there are enough folks interested in a gray PF logo hat to make some enquiries.

This is for the Admins / Mods

1) It would seem easiest to have a new hat option added to the available selections on the Spreadshirt web site. How does that work? Will an Admin need to contact Spreadshirt and arrange to have this new hat option added?

2) I don't know / can't tell whether the existing $18.99 black hat option if of good quality to serve as a 'like' product. I.e., say we want to "just add a new hat to the catalog, change the color to gray, add an orange "PF" as per the attached *.jeg". Can we do that?

3) About the design, how would we go about getting a *.jpeg of the orange "PF" logo to the hat company anyway?

4) Some have mentioned the addition of a "TLG" or "Rampage" embroidery (on the back?). How do we find out if this is possible?

[BehindBlueI's]

I would tentatively be in for a gray hat for range use.

[BJXDS]

Short answer yes, depending what it looks like. I have no idea of the quality of the PT hats, but I like the design/color combo.

IMHO, when I see an Orange hat I think either Hunter or Highway worker.

[mark7]

Mark me as interested in a grey one also.

[Irelander]

I'm interested. What about Flexfit? I have a Mystery Ranch Flexfit haft and it fits me the best of any other hat I have. Most L/XL hats are too small for me but this one fits great.

[Peally]

I'd like to just throw out there that button top hats need to be shot and extinct (so do flat brims but that's another conversation). Velcro tab for comfy earpro FTW.

[RoyGBiv]

Funny watching all the "how about...... "...
I'm as guilty as the rest...

Another option on the logo...... p-f (lower case).
+1 on gray cap instead of all orange.

ETA: If it's just a simple square-ish shape with some letters, you can easily make the logo yourself using free tools.
I like Paint.NET (http://www.getpaint.net/download.html)
Most online print shops can work from JPG or PDF files saved from Paint.NET.
Just be sure to check with the shop about minimum resolution required.

[TAZ]

I'd be in. Either orange or grey, prefer grey though if given a choice. IMO the logo should be embroidered instead of screen printed. Just make for a nicer hat.

[Luke]

How did a random website get a bunch of PF clothes?

[BehindBlueI's]

The next person who confuses PF with PTC (for the eleventy billionth time) is getting banned. Or at least a new username background adornment. A really, really, bad one.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPW2wZ4D2s

[Luke]

:(

I just did a quick look and thought it was PF and not PT. Sorry Tom :/

[Totem Polar]

It happens. A lot. :)

All you mods/staffers/plankowners look alike to us. ;)

[s0nspark]

In for one or more, especially if grey and (ideally) with an orange and white velcro PF patch ;-)

Same caveats expressed above: high quality, adjustable from no hair to 'fro hair, etc.

[s0nspark]

I'm in if its not all orange.

Orange with orange letters to stay under the radar LOL

[Al T.]

Tagged, very interested if it's somewhat "under the radar"....

[PearTree]

In for a grey one

[RJ]

Ok fellas, I don't want a new username background adornment :cool:, so I could use some help.

I don't mind doing this, but we need to locate a suitable logo hat maker, and work out the details on the hat order. If anyone wants to help with this, let me know.

I feel like a good retailer will:

- Accept orders from 1 to 1,000 units
- Be able to manufacture a user-supplied design, once approved by the P-F admin team
- Be able to 'store' the agreed design/details for subsequent purchases, for say up to six months
- Offer a secure checkout, and reasonable production and shipping times

Let me know if you'd be willing to head this up.

We also need to work on the hat design itself. Based on the feedback in this thread, it seems folks want:

- A gray (generally) hat, with the orange "PF" logo.
- Be of high quality, i.e. not one of those "hold my beer and pull my finger" plastic mesh caps
- Have a one size fits most style, with Velcro adjustment
- Optionally have custom embroidery i.e. 'TLG'
- Not have a steel center top "button" to avoid pressure when wearing ear pro

For me, I like cloth hats, and could see a nice medium gray with the orange "PF" logo embroidered on it.

Whatever design is drawn up, it needs to be run by the Admin team for approval, who's say will be final. So, if you want to help in this role, let me know.

Since the design of the hat may be guided by what the retailers have to offer, it seems to me the first step is to locate a reliable hat logo maker, then work on the specifics.

I'll be working on this over the next couple days, and report back on what I've found; but if anyone else wants to help push, let me know.

Rich

[Luke]

There is a place at my local mall called "hat shack" they make good stuff.

[RJ]

The next person who confuses PF with PTC (for the eleventy billionth time) is getting banned. Or at least a new username background adornment. A really, really, bad one.



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[MVS]

9607

Call me a hick. Loved that movie. The wife and I even ventured into the big city (Chicago) to see the Down From the Mountain tour of the music from the movie. Sorry for the thread drift.

[DamonL]

These guys are a huge on-line custom-logo retailer. We have done t-shirts from them, but not hats. Search around their site. They have a section where you can create and submit a design.

http://www.customink.com/categories/hats/1

[JCS]

I would want one. I'm not worthy to wear it but I would want one.


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[JDM]

Call me a hick. Loved that movie. The wife and I even ventured into the big city (Chicago) to see the Down From the Mountain tour of the music from the movie. Sorry for the thread drift.

Chicago is one of those geographical oddities...it's two weeks from everywhere.

[voodoo_man]

http://www.customink.com/styles/outdoor-cap-kryptek-camo-hat/267300?PK=267301

Something like this....

[Luke]

http://www.customink.com/styles/outdoor-cap-kryptek-camo-hat/267300?PK=267301

Something like this....


Kryptec??? I so didn't have you pegged as one of "those" guys. *sad face*

[Tamara]

No black no care.

[Tamara]

http://www.customink.com/styles/outdoor-cap-kryptek-camo-hat/267300?PK=267301

Something like this....

As I read somewhere else today, Kryptek is the Nickelback of camo patterns... ;)

[BehindBlueI's]

As I read somewhere else today, Kryptek is the Nickelback of camo patterns... ;)

...I've no idea what that means. I know Nickelback is a band...but that's about it.

[ReverendMeat]

As I read somewhere else today, Kryptek is the Nickelback of camo patterns... ;)

Then what's multicam?

[MichaelD]

I don't know how or if you can find out who made the tan P-T hats that Todd used to give out at classes, but I'm of the opinion a hat of that quality is perfectly adequate. The hat should be black with "P-F" text in orange, if you ask me.

[HopetonBrown]

As I read somewhere else today, Kryptek is the Nickelback of camo patterns... ;)

James Yeager loves him some Kryptek.

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[voodoo_man]

Kryptek is awesome...you guys are just going to get around to figuring it out....eventually...

[JAD]

As far as non-fitted caps go, I really like the hats sold by go ruck. They have a buttonless crown and a big Velcro field. If y'all just did a morale patch I'd be set.

http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-mesh-black-/p/GEAR-000081
http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-ripstop-cotton-full-panel-black-/p/GEAR-000093

[RJ]

James Yeager loves him some Kryptek.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! !!!

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160802/f62c452b92b9a037515d9400ad2b3a3e.jpg

[JCS]

http://www.customink.com/styles/outdoor-cap-kryptek-camo-hat/267300?PK=267301

Something like this....

I like the American flag on the side.


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[RJ]

As far as non-fitted caps go, I really like the hats sold by go ruck. They have a buttonless crown and a big Velcro field. If y'all just did a morale patch I'd be set.

http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-mesh-black-/p/GEAR-000081
http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-ripstop-cotton-full-panel-black-/p/GEAR-000093

Ok...this actually is very interesting.

Add a 'PF' morale patch and I'd wear that all the time.

What do y'all think about switching this hat concept to simply a run of PF morale patches?

I think this idea has legs...

[orionz06]

What if they're just stickers instead for those who don't wanna commit to a morale patch?


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[JAD]

What if they're just stickers instead for those who don't wanna commit to a morale patch?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160802/57c56eb915b26d616fb4bd0eff153b00.jpg

[JDM]

I would be in for a patch or 5, where as I would maybe buy one hat.

[voodoo_man]

I like the American flag on the side.


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I want the flag on everything.

[s0nspark]

...I've no idea what that means. I know Nickelback is a band...but that's about it.

Ignorance is certainly bliss...

[GMSweet]

I think a morale patch would be better. I was all in for an orange hat, would likely buy a grey hat, and would absolutely not buy a black hat.

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[RJ]

What if they're just stickers instead for those who don't wanna commit to a morale patch?


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Well, you know, a patch would have multiple uses, though.

You could put it put on a range bag, hat, your IDPA vest...:cool:

[RJ]

Ok, lets run with the patch for a bit.

Same deal: Any good morale patch makers? I'd give preference to Military or LEO owned businesses, if known.

Size / type of patch?

I am guessing 2" x 2"? Since gray seems popular, what about a gray patch with orange embroidery?

Price point? What would you pay for one?

Admins: Would you see this as a fund raiser for Rampage, the site in general, or both? (Point Being as p-f.com owns the IPR of the logo.)

[s0nspark]

Ok, lets run with the patch for a bit.

Same deal: Any good morale patch makers? I'd give preference to Military or LEO owned businesses, if known.

Size / type of patch?

I am guessing 2" x 2"? Since gray seems popular, what about a gray patch with orange embroidery?

Price point? What would you pay for one?


http://www.mutinyshop.com/order-patches.html

My preference is for a rectangular patch - 2" x 3" - in orange with white lettering... or grey with white lettering and an orange outline around the patch and letters.

Price-wise, I am flexible... but I do certainly agree that I'd get more use out of a patch and would probably buy more than one.

Oh yeah, reflective lettering might be cool as well. And maybe a "blackout" version with grey lettering on black... for night ops ;-)

[JAD]

There will, eventually, be PF swag.
You got a good MIM supplier for that?

[orionz06]

http://www.mutinyshop.com/order-patches.html

My preference is for a rectangular patch - 2" x 3" - in orange with white lettering... or grey with white lettering and an orange outline around the patch and letters.

Price-wise, I am flexible... but I do certainly agree that I'd get more use out of a patch and would probably buy more than one.

Oh yeah, reflective lettering might be cool as well. And maybe a "blackout" version with grey lettering on black... for night ops ;-)

Combat Swag has done good by myself and a few other P-F members and I believe has better pricing, but that's all Tom's call as what folks want will likely change a bunch.


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[Irelander]

Definitely in for a patch or two.

+1 for Combat Swag.

[s0nspark]

Combat Swag has done good by myself and a few other P-F members and I believe has better pricing, but that's all Tom's call as what folks want will likely change a bunch.


Cool - thanks for the tip - hadn't dealt with them as of yet :)

[Ronin_Jedi]

My 2¢

Color: black, white, green (as in Hunter Green), or grey, in that order. No camo
US flag on backside
Material: breathable, stain resistant, bleed/fade resistant. No beanie button (maybe mil-syle cap?)


Check suppliers: given today's manufacturing, it may not be necessary to have only one color cap. Small batches may be allowed depending on how the PF / flag patches are applied.

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[Ronin_Jedi]

http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-mesh-black-/p/GEAR-000081
http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-ripstop-cotton-full-panel-black-/p/GEAR-000093

Okay by me.

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[RoyGBiv]

I like the morale patch idea... Makes it mucho easier for everyone to have the hat they prefer...

Just playing....


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My very limited experience with embroidering patches is that letters need to be a minimum size in order to be legible after embroidering.
Size depends somewhat on font and on equipment used. Easy to tweak.

[hiro]

OK, I'm getting kinda iffy about this. I thought the idea was to fly under the radar? Morale patches and I guess therefore velcro on hats to stick them too seem to fail the radar test.

Did this thread get real complicated, real quick?

[Irelander]

OK, I'm getting kinda iffy about this. I thought the idea was to fly under the radar? Morale patches and I guess therefore velcro on hats to stick them too seem to fail the radar test.

Did this thread get real complicated, real quick?

I agree that I'd rather have a nice hat without the velcro stuff, but I'm happy to get a patch as an alternative.

[Irelander]

My very limited experience with embroidering patches is that letters need to be a minimum size in order to be legible after embroidering.
Size depends somewhat on font and on equipment used. Easy to tweak.

This shouldn't be an issue with PVC patches.

From the Mutiny site:
http://www.mutinyshop.com/uploads/1/8/7/4/187476/1681067.jpg?896

[Luke]

Rich I think the only way to do stuff like this is make a hat you like, have it made, get prices for more and then post them for sale. There is just no way to please everybody.

[FNFAN]

OK, I'm getting kinda iffy about this. I thought the idea was to fly under the radar? Morale patches and I guess therefore velcro on hats to stick them too seem to fail the radar test.

Did this thread get real complicated, real quick?

Affirmative!

[orionz06]

Did this thread get real complicated, real quick?

Hasn't even gotten to the appropriate shade of grey yet either. Can't be too light because it would stain easy, can't be too dark because then it would just be black. Needs to be just right.



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[hiro]

Hasn't even gotten to the appropriate shade of grey yet either. Can't be too light because it would stain easy, can't be too dark because then it would just be black. Needs to be just right.

The Goldilocks Cap!

[NickA]

Hasn't even gotten to the appropriate shade of grey yet either. Can't be too light because it would stain easy, can't be too dark because then it would just be black. Needs to be just right.



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I'll take 5 in black, and 5 in a slightly darker shade of black.

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[RJ]

You got a good MIM supplier for that?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160802/6681719c4d39685d5dfa05559c689d4c.jpg

[JCS]

Forget hats, let's get p-f tattoos :)


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[Luke]

Forget hats, let's get p-f tattoos :)


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I'm down

[ReverendMeat]

Forget hats, let's get p-f tattoos :)


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I'd do it if Tom pays me

[miller_man]

OK, I'm getting kinda iffy about this. I thought the idea was to fly under the radar? Morale patches and I guess therefore velcro on hats to stick them too seem to fail the radar test.

Did this thread get real complicated, real quick?

I hope not, I really want the PF hat. Pretty much what ever comes out of this - I will want one.

[voodoo_man]

I'd do a PF vinyl or pvc patch

[Al T.]

Forget hats, let's get p-f tattoos :)


You don't have one yet? (Newbie!)

(no ink on me, too scared of needles.....)

[hufnagel]

http://www.theteebagnj.com

On my phone so typing sucks.
I've used them for my business polos and they're good quality. Will try and find out what hat chices they have.

[Ronin_Jedi]

You don't have one yet? (Newbie!)

(no ink on me, too scared of needles.....)
You know there's a word for that, can't remember it though. Too much time spent in a foreign land. Think it begins with a "w". LOL

If you don't like needles, I can send ya pics of my scars! Or maybe an xray of the long stainless steel "railroad" track under the main scar.😵

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[BehindBlueI's]

As I said, there will be an assortment of PF swag. I'm all about low key and under the radar so expect much of it to that way, but I'll probably make some stuff that's a little more in your face for people who dig that sort of thing.

I'm guessing the hat thing will be sorted shortly after the wrist watch thread.

I'll be standing by for the officially official PF hat of officialness.

[MGW]

...I've no idea what that means. I know Nickelback is a band...but that's about it.

Let me help you with that.

https://youtu.be/sIlNIVXpIns


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[BehindBlueI's]

Let me help you with that.

https://youtu.be/sIlNIVXpIns


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:confused:

[MGW]

:confused:

It's a Nickleback song that's been doctored. But they sound about that bad and listening to their songs drops IQ points.


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[DI1]

I'm not really into a combo PF/TLG logo -- mostly because I don't think Todd would have been into it. But maybe we can do a special edition thing if it's fair subdued and not too garish (and I can get his wife to sign off on the idea).

Here are a few versions of an idea that I very quickly threw together. If the letter forms look "off" that's because I drew everything by hand and they aren't fonts (at the very least I probably need to round off some of the outer corners of the G). These aren't meant to be finished products, just a quick demonstration of an idea.

9654

9655

9656

The P and F are supposed to look like the P and F from the watch face.

These are something I'd envision fairly small (maybe an inch tall) on the back of the hat or as a small patch.



Tom,
I like the second one. Would be great to have a subdued gray hat with that logo.

[RJ]

Did some web searching today for a web site that offered hats and embroidery.
T
Ended up here:

http://www.customizedwear.com/

Anyone have experience with them?

[voodoo_man]

I think the best thing to do is focus on finding a good base hat first and not looking for a place to embroider the hat. Shitty hats are everywhere. So are embroidery services. Focus on the hat I'm not going to sign off on a hat with a button on top (unless it comes with a check large enough to qualify as fuck you money -- and that amount gets smaller and smaller every day so who knows). That's how much I hate buttons on hats. Additionally, we're going to need at least two sizes even if they are adjustable. One size will NOT work.


I despise wearing a hat with a center button thing. Makes my head hurt when I wear ear protection.



Twelve pages and I had already posted this on page #2.

You are slacking.

[RJ]

I think the best thing to do is focus on finding a good base hat first and not looking for a place to embroider the hat. Shitty hats are everywhere. So are embroidery services. Focus on the hat. I'm not going to sign off on a hat with a button on top (unless it comes with a check large enough to qualify as fuck you money -- and that amount gets smaller and smaller every day so who knows). That's how much I hate buttons on hats. Additionally, we're going to need at least two sizes even if they are adjustable. One size will NOT work.


As far as non-fitted caps go, I really like the hats sold by go ruck. They have a buttonless crown and a big Velcro field. If y'all just did a morale patch I'd be set.

http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-mesh-black-/p/GEAR-000081
http://www.goruck.com/tac-hat-ripstop-cotton-full-panel-black-/p/GEAR-000093

Tom, so far, the Goruck hat posted by JAD is the only one I've seen with no button.

It is a black hat with a velcro patch friendly front.

9676

If the "patch" concept was reconsidered, I'd be good with the goruck+patch combo.

Goruck also appears to be veteran owned, but I don't know anything about the owner.

[RJ]

Button-free hats are pretty common. SKD has a couple. So does Arc'teryx. RE Factor does too. Even Condor. Several manufacturers have button-less hats (I know Magpul does, and so does Daniel Defense). Lots of options for button-free.

Ok, I'll look into those and see if they fit the criteria.

So far, I have:

- Buttonless
- Two sizes
- Gray or nondescript
- Not be shitty

Question: If the goruck hat was available without a velcro patch base, would that fit the bill?

[orionz06]

Question: If the goruck hat was available without a velcro patch base, would that fit the bill?

No because it's GoRuck.

[RJ]

No because it's GoRuck.

Not tracking.

Is this another case of an online supplier having a bad reputation?

[RJ]

Honestly, I'd have to try a sample hat first but probably "yes" as far as I'm concerned.

ETA: I see that it only comes in one adjustable size. Perhaps they've cracked the code on making a one-size-fits-most/all that doesn't suck.

Ok, that helps. I''ll use it as a yardstick in evaluating the other options.

[RJ]

I have no idea what anyone is talking about.

Sorry Tom, I clarified my post #119. I was not sure what Orizon06 meant about GoRuck being unacceptable.

[orionz06]

Not tracking.

Is this another case of an online supplier having a bad reputation?

All the douchebag vaping clowns I know drive Subarus. I don't own a Subaru.

[JDM]

All the douchebag vaping clowns I know drive Subarus. I don't own a Subaru.

I know a guy with a Subaru. It's silver.

[Irelander]

All the douchebag vaping clowns I know drive Subarus. I don't own a Subaru.

Crap. Just when I thought my Impreza was cool. :(

[voodoo_man]

All the douchebag vaping clowns I know drive Subarus. I don't own a Subaru.

Vape and drive a Scooby?

Oh man...

[UNK]

What about something like this?

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[orionz06]

Vape and drive a Scooby?

Oh man...

Levels of douchebaggery so high they likely already have a GoRuck bag anyway, and a fedora, and white sunglasses.


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[voodoo_man]

Levels of douchebaggery so high they likely already have a GoRuck bag anyway, and a fedora, and white sunglasses.


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careful with the goruck comments...

some of us who own the bags actually did the rucks...

[EricM]

I took a look at the various no-button hats I wear to the range to see if there was any manufacturer info on them. My Geissele hat came from Lighthouse Branding and Merchandising Agency (800-481-4276, lhbma.com). One of my Hornady hats is from Outdoor Cap, the other from BSW Headworks. Vertx hat is from Quake City Caps. An old HK hat, unique for being a lightweight ripstop fabric, had the phone number 919-212-3796 on a tag, which Google matches to Reggie Matthews Promotions. My LaRue hat did not have any other info on it. Just a few possibilities to throw out there.

[orionz06]

An old HK hat, unique for being a lightweight ripstop fabric, had the phone number 919-212-3796 on a tag, which Google matches to Reggie Matthews Promotions.

They've done quite a few hats for gun related companies without buttons. Not sure they offer fitted though.


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[UNK]

I did it with paint on a break. :-) An artist I am not!


i think that would make a fine DIY tattoo. Luke?! :)

[JAD]

careful with the goruck comments...

some of us who own the bags actually did the rucks...

I own the bag, dig it, and hate fedoras, white sunglasses, and vape. I am agnostic about rubies.

[Casey]

I took a look at the various no-button hats I wear to the range to see if there was any manufacturer info on them. My Geissele hat came from Lighthouse Branding and Merchandising Agency (800-481-4276, lhbma.com). One of my Hornady hats is from Outdoor Cap, the other from BSW Headworks. Vertx hat is from Quake City Caps. An old HK hat, unique for being a lightweight ripstop fabric, had the phone number 919-212-3796 on a tag, which Google matches to Reggie Matthews Promotions. My LaRue hat did not have any other info on it. Just a few possibilities to throw out there.


They've done quite a few hats for gun related companies without buttons. Not sure they offer fitted though.

I have a couple hats from Reggie Matthews (http://www.reggiematthewspromotions.com/Products.html). Good quality, as I recall. I'm definitely more interested in a hat than a patch. Patches are cool, but I despise patches on hats for reasons I cannot rationally articulate.

[voodoo_man]

I own the bag, dig it, and hate fedoras, white sunglasses, and vape. I am agnostic about rubies.

Vape?

...and here I thought I couldn't lose respect for someone so quickly....just sad.

[JAD]

Sorry. Not my first language as far as you know. "Hate... Vape."

[voodoo_man]

Sorry. Not my first language as far as you know. "Hate... Vape."

It's ok dude, just say you vape, we are very accepting of your kind here...

:cool:

[RoyGBiv]

It's ok dude, just say you vape, we are very accepting of your kind here...

:cool:

I'd rather be caught driving a Subaru.

[voodoo_man]

Are you sure?

my sarcasm didn't transfer over well...

[Luke]

Tell us about your mods bruh

[Duelist]

I'd rather be caught driving a Subaru.

Lady I work with drives a Forester. Silver.

[RJ]

I have a couple hats from Reggie Matthews (http://www.reggiematthewspromotions.com/Products.html). Good quality, as I recall. I'm definitely more interested in a hat than a patch. Patches are cool, but I despise patches on hats for reasons I cannot rationally articulate.

I looked for a buttonless hat at their click-through web site, here:

http://www.companycasuals.com/reggiematthews/b.jsp?id=126&parentId=1

I can't seem to find a cap that does not have a button, unless I missed it.

[RJ]

I took a look at the various no-button hats I wear to the range to see if there was any manufacturer info on them. My Geissele hat came from Lighthouse Branding and Merchandising Agency (800-481-4276, lhbma.com). One of my Hornady hats is from Outdoor Cap, the other from BSW Headworks. Vertx hat is from Quake City Caps. An old HK hat, unique for being a lightweight ripstop fabric, had the phone number 919-212-3796 on a tag, which Google matches to Reggie Matthews Promotions. My LaRue hat did not have any other info on it. Just a few possibilities to throw out there.

For follow up:

The lhbma.com site redirects to a corporate "image" website, no direct ordering, that I can see.

The Quake City Cap web site is another custom site, mostly structured ball caps and so forth, but no "buttonless" caps that I can see.

Also looked at BSW headworks, no obvious buttonless options here, either:

http://www.bswheadworks.com/products.html

[JDM]

Lady I work with drives a Forester. Silver.

I posted the exact same thing just a few posts above. Verbatim. :)

[taadski]

FWIW, I wouldn't worry too much about finding a "buttonless hat". The folks selling them without are (in most cases) purchasing them as a normal hat with a button, then removing it and adding a velcro patch, their embroidery, etc... They're all sewn the same way underneath.

There's a company called Competition Headwear in Denver that sells USA made caps in a variety of styles with custom embroidery. They're of good quality and supply a few different known entities in the industry with their base hats. Crye Precision is one example. I'd bet they'll even pull the buttons off a custom order if folks felt that was needed to pass the mustard. ;)

Their website is http://www.marnergroup.com

[RJ]

FWIW, I wouldn't worry too much about finding a "buttonless hat". The folks selling them without are (in most cases) purchasing them as a normal hat with a button, then removing it and adding a velcro patch, their embroidery, etc... They're all sewn the same way underneath.

There's a company called Competition Headwear in Denver that sells USA made caps in a variety of styles with custom embroidery. They're of good quality and supply a few different known entities in the industry with their base hats. Crye Precision is one example. I'd bet they'll even pull the buttons off a custom order if folks felt that was needed to pass the mustard. ;)

Their website is http://www.marnergroup.com

Nuh uh.

If you pick a hat with a button, the mods here will turn you into a newt. :cool:

PS thanks, will look into that site.

[taadski]

So as to not ignore the hipster conversation going on.... In all seriousness, I'm actually a fan of vaping. Primarily because I've seen it help a handful of buddies kick their smoking habits and their nicotine addictions in relatively short order. And because I'd much rather smell the majority of the special snowflake scents in passing than the stink of burning cigarettes. I say the above never having officially "vaped", but whatever.







Oh...and I like Subarus. :cool:

[orionz06]

Are you sure?

Vaporizers are probable cause. :cool:

[JDM]

I think Subarus are fantastic cars, and the next time I'm inclined to have a car payment, it will be on a WRX wagon.

[taadski]

I think Subarus are fantastic cars, and the next time I'm inclined to have a car payment, it will be on a WRX wagon.



http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/taadski/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zpscxav1jss.jpg

[FNFAN]

Nuh uh.

If you pick a hat with a button, the mods here will turn you into a newt. :cool:

PS thanks, will look into that site.

This hat thing is complex... Mebbe start out with hats with buttons and when you reach journeyman p-f skilz levels you shoot the button off. Tom could sell a mini p-f 1% patch to replace the button.... Kind of a right-of-passage thang like the Hells Angels do, but with less bodily fluids...

[JDM]

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/taadski/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zpscxav1jss.jpg

I have such an unbelievable hardon for fast wagons Tom is going to need some steel toes.

If I ever have fuck you money, the first thing I'm buying is an E63 Wagon.

[RJ]

I have such an unbelievable hardon for fast wagons Tom is going to need some steel toes.

If I ever have fuck you money, the first thing I'm buying is an E63 Wagon.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/b0ef9079212970f1f570e11c6852f074.jpg

[H&KFanNC]

The cup is about the right color. We putting the letters directly on it? Or Velcro with a patch?

Oh! Sorry. Lost track. We sticking with the grey hat? Im in....undeserving but in.


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[JDM]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160805/b0ef9079212970f1f570e11c6852f074.jpg

I dig that, and I dig the RS6 Avant too, but I can't buy either of those in Albuquerque. :)

Edit, as awesome as that M5 wagon is, no AWD, no want.

[JDM]

I'll stop derailing this thread. I'm an asshole. Bye now.

[Ronin_Jedi]

Can't believe I gone through 17 pages of this stuff. Like watching a movie of me having an argument with myself😵

Hilarious

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[Casey]

I looked for a buttonless hat at their click-through web site, here:

http://www.companycasuals.com/reggiematthews/b.jsp?id=126&parentId=1

I can't seem to find a cap that does not have a button, unless I missed it.
The hats I have from him don't have a manufacturer name, but three of them are buttonless...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/vJtjxM.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/921/6j848q.jpg

[RJ]

^^^ Cool. Can you find me one on their site without a button?

[Casey]

^^^ Cool. Can you find me one on their site without a button?
Probably best to email them. I don't see one on their site without a button, just this from the "Services" page:


Our hats are custom made to your wants. You pick the style, the color, the fabric, and where you want embroidery. We can omit the button on top, do embroidery on the bill, back, sides, or, of course, front. We make unstructured as well as structured, mesh back, fitted, low profiles to high profiles. Our fabrics range from cotton twill, to nylon, waxed, cotton ripstop and alot more. Some of the options we offer are shown but if you do not see what you want then just ask. Chances are we will be able to make it for you.

[MGW]

Tell us about your mods bruh

I'm getting ready to buy a Crosstrek. Do I have to resend my PF card?


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[RJ]

Probably best to email them. I don't see one on their site without a button, just this from the "Services" page:

Thanks, I will. The middle one, is that a D.A.R.K. cap? I like the velcro tab on the back. And the flag, frankly.




Tom_Jones, if you haven't been turned into a toad yet, what do you think of this option?

[Casey]

Thanks, I will. The middle one, is that a D.A.R.K. cap? I like the velcro tab on the back. And the flag, frankly.
Yep, it's this hat from Dark Angel Medical (http://darkangelmedical.com/dark-angel-hat/). It's a nice lightweight ripstop material, and it's an unstructured design, if you're into that sort of thing.

[RJ]

Yep, it's this hat from Dark Angel Medical (http://darkangelmedical.com/dark-angel-hat/). It's a nice lightweight ripstop material, and it's an unstructured design, if you're into that sort of thing.

Cool. By chance do you know what the velcro on the top is for?

I like it.

[RJ]

I'm pretty sure they'll be able to accommodate us.

Ok, el jefe has spoken. :cool:

Right, so let me know what to approach them with, logo wise, as well as preferred details, when you all are ready.

[JDM]

Cool. By chance do you know what the velcro on the top is for?

I like it.

It makes sense to be that it would be for something like an IR reflective square, but that's just a guess.

[Hot Sauce]

Are people super committed to the velcro back design? Because if there is gonna be two sizes anyway to accommodate the diverse variety of targeted noggins, Flexfits come in both small and large, and in my experience to fit better and cleaner than other types of adjustments.

[Drang]

Cool. By chance do you know what the velcro on the top is for?

I like it.

Glint tape, so Spooky doesn't rain pain down on friendlies.

[JDM]

Glint tape, so Spooky doesn't rain pain down on friendlies.

Holy shit! I was right!

[Al T.]

Glint tape, so Spooky doesn't rain pain down on friendlies.

Back in the mid '80's when we were briefed up on that, it was so classified it was almost unusable.

On track, I do like that middle hat from Dark Star...

[voodoo_man]

Cool. By chance do you know what the velcro on the top is for?

I like it.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71cWUZg%2BBbL._SL1359_.jpg

So you don't get shot and/or droned by your own people.

[RJ]

Glint tape, so Spooky doesn't rain pain down on friendlies.

Thanks. Learning has taken place.

[RJ]

Are people super committed to the velcro back design? Because if there is gonna be two sizes anyway to accommodate the diverse variety of targeted noggins, Flexfits come in both small and large, and in my experience to fit better and cleaner than other types of adjustments.

No, and in fact Tom has indicated he would not approve a design that did not come in at least two sizes.

I'm hoping that we can work out a plan to allow multiple or at least a choice of designs. I greatly prefer adjusting a velcro tab to fit and leaving it alone. I really don't like elastic hat bands.

[Duelist]

I don't mind some Velcro type adjustment, but prefer the buckle and sliding cloth or leather type.

[RJ]

I don't mind some Velcro type adjustment, but prefer the buckle and sliding cloth or leather type.

Buckle works too.

[Ronin_Jedi]

I don't mind some Velcro type adjustment, but prefer the buckle and sliding cloth or leather type.
I like sliding leather too, but I digress.

For me, sliding cloth adjustments will, well, slide. I can never get them to stay where I set it.

YMMV

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[Casey]

I'd much prefer a hook and loop or buckle closure to a FlexFit style; the latter never seems to fit quite right.

[orionz06]

It makes sense to be that it would be for something like an IR reflective square, but that's just a guess.

http://i.imgur.com/P1tnVgwl.jpg


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[Drang]

Back in the mid '80's when we were briefed up on that, it was so classified it was almost unusable.
Trust me, there was much artful Googling before I posted that.

[Hambo]

If I ever have fuck you money, the first thing I'm buying is an E63 Wagon.

Wagons are cool, but for me it will be an early '70's Plymouth Satellite wagon with a Hellcat crate motor. :cool:

About the hats, I would prefer a Columbia Coolhead, but in Kryptek camo, brim length between normal and fishing, operator velcro patch on top with IR reflective P-F logo, and choice of velcro or sliding buckle thingy.




Seriously, I'll buy whatever.

[BehindBlueI's]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41blwh4qNWL._AC_UL200_SR160,200_.jpg

Incorporates orange.
Plenty of room for logo.
No one will assume it is firearms related.
Propeller will keep ear pro from slipping off backward if used as range hat.

[H&KFanNC]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41blwh4qNWL._AC_UL200_SR160,200_.jpg

Incorporates orange.
Plenty of room for logo.
No one will assume it is firearms related.
Propeller will keep ear pro from slipping off backward if used as range hat.

The proper makes it too tactical. Maybe without the propeller and in different shades of grey?

Sorry. Couldn't resist but would really LOVE to see a nice hat in gray come out of all this.


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[RJ]

About the hats, I would prefer a Columbia Coolhead, but in Kryptek camo, brim length between normal and fishing, operator velcro patch on top with IR reflective P-F logo, and choice of velcro or sliding buckle thingy.



9722

[RJ]

Sorry. Couldn't resist but would really LOVE to see a nice hat in gray come out of all this.



Soon.

[orionz06]

http://i.imgur.com/oz91klS.png

[UNK]

And you TM'd it. You HAVE been paying attention grasshopper.


http://i.imgur.com/oz91klS.png


I hate you.

[Ronin_Jedi]

How about tan hat?

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[JM Campbell]

http://i.imgur.com/oz91klS.png
On the back of mine I'd like "M&P9 Accuracy"

[emoji41]

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[RJ]

On the back of mine I'd like "M&P9 Accuracy"



Gah dayum, y'all are tough. :cool:

[JM Campbell]

Gah dayum, y'all are tough. :cool:
I actually still carry and shoot M&P9s, went away from P30LS LEM and P30 to shoot the smith.

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[GMSweet]

On the back of mine I'd like "M&P9 Accuracy"

[emoji41]

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I want THAT hat. It's the right color and I've been infringing on that trademark at work recently. Besides, it might just be an Apex grade semi-drop in fit!



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[hufnagel]

I actually still carry and shoot M&P9s, went away from P30LS LEM and P30 to shoot the smith.

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http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/pictures/sota/memes/DHOiwog.gif

OT: should I bother visiting the local embroidery place to see what hats they offer? or are we good on choices already.

[martin_j001]

I'd be in for a hat too, if it's not too late to get in on it.

[orionz06]

I'd be in for a hat too, if it's not too late to get in on it.

You mean a button? I thought that's what was decided, a little piece of flair.


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[BehindBlueI's]

On the back of mine I'd like "M&P9 Accuracy"

[emoji41]

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...in a gift box with a matching PF watch.

[martin_j001]

You mean a button? I thought that's what was decided, a little piece of flair.


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How quickly things change. First it's a group buy for a hat, then it's a group buy for a hat without a button on top, now it's a group buy for just the button. :D

More flair will certainly go well with my multicam and kryptek wardrobe. :p

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/martin_j005/button_zpsecv92xip.jpg (http://s226.photobucket.com/user/martin_j005/media/button_zpsecv92xip.jpg.html)

[RJ]

I'd be in for a hat too, if it's not too late to get in on it.

No, not too late.

I think we are finalizing on a hat supplier. I need to PM Tom and check in on that this week. This is the leading candidate:

http://www.companycasuals.com/reggiematthews/b.jsp?id=126&parentId=1

My take, from screening through all the discussion on cars, trademarks, Kryptek, propellers, M&P accuracy, Jimmy Hoffa and 33,000 missing Hillary emails, is that "we" want:

- Generally a cloth unstructured billed cap with no button
- Available in low-impact, Mr. White mall food court gray, tan, or possibly orange for GJM, and Kryptek for VDM.
- Either one size fits pretty much everybody, or two sizes
- Either velcro, leather buckle, or both

This may or may not have a velcro tactical patch on top for Drang to avoid awkward detection by the odd AC-130U orbiting at 1,200 AGL. A special patch design is in work for orizon06's IDPA vest.

Stay tuned.

[orionz06]

...in a gift box with a matching PF watch.

The watches come with hats.


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[BaiHu]

I skipped 17 pages or so and it's still no less confusing.

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[Irelander]

Now we're talkin'. Gray hat.......with orange under the bill. Just get rid of that button and we're golden!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47624012/gray-org%20hat.PNG

Oops...its fitted.

[Ronin_Jedi]

My take, from screening through all the discussion on cars, trademarks, Kryptek, propellers, M&P accuracy, Jimmy Hoffa and 33,000 missing Hillary emails, is that "we" want:

- Generally a cloth unstructured billed cap with no button
- Available in low-impact, Mr. White mall food court gray, tan, or possibly orange for GJM, and Kryptek for VDM.
- Either one size fits pretty much everybody, or two sizes
- Either velcro, leather buckle, or both

USA flag on back?

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[orionz06]

Does the flag code allow?


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[Ronin_Jedi]

Strictly? No. However, saying that gets you labeled as un-American by people who don't care about the flag code (which is advisory only).
As I understand it, after US vs Eichmann, he code is essentially advisory aside from application to government agencies.

And I'm okay with most everything so long as its done out of and with respect.

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[Rich@CCC]

I think I'm going to make my own and just send Tom $5.00 for the TM infringement fee.

[Hambo]

There will be hats. I promise, but I'm certain it will take longer than almost everyone would prefer.

If they come with a gadget can I substitute a Beretta G model lever?

[SSGMike]

I would like a cap, if I'm worthy. I just registered, but I've ghosted this site for years. PF is the best.

[GyroF-16]

I'm in for a hat, too.
My vote's for tan.

Gyro

[Hot Sauce]

Now we're talkin'. Gray hat.......with orange under the bill. Just get rid of that button and we're golden!

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47624012/gray-org%20hat.PNG

Oops...its fitted.

This looks like a pretty solid idea.

[miller_man]

Is this still a work in progress? Would love to see this become an actual thing.

[orionz06]

Is this still a work in progress? Would love to see this become an actual thing.

I would guess no considering it started with a hat, changed colors 3 times, turned into a patch and a different hat with velcro, that hat changed colors 2 times, and then it became folks wearing an orange string on their wrists.

[walker2713]

My head looks like a cue ball...put me down for sure!

George

[H&KFanNC]

I would guess no considering it started with a hat, changed colors 3 times, turned into a patch and a different hat with velcro, that hat changed colors 2 times, and then it became folks wearing an orange string on their wrists.

Did we finalize the string length? I'm waiting to order...


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[miller_man]

I guess I was hoping to hear from the 2 people who seemed to be remotely close to making something happen - Rich Jenkins or Tom. I know myself and probably most everybody else got lost on the details, once everyone throws their input in. But still hoping something will come about - even if just 1.0 version that doesnt meet all the demands.

[RJ]

^^^ See above.

If you recall, Tom has been uh, a bit busy, with the launch of the SCD aka "Gadget".

Tom is a man of his word, and likely wants "to do it right the first time". I'm confident this will happen at some point.

[bkent]

I didn't read through the whole thread but the hat does come with a bulletproof lining, doesn't it? If so, I'm all over this like stink on a skunk.

[H&KFanNC]

No disrespect intended towards Tom. Just need something to cover my rapidly graying hair...[emoji12]. Gray hair from age, not from waiting ...or vice versa?

I just want a hat...


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No disrespect intended towards Tom. Just need something to cover my rapidly graying hair...[emoji12]. Gray hair from age, not from waiting ...or vice versa?

I just want a hat...


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SOON™ Grasshopper could mean this life or the next.

[H&KFanNC]

SOON[emoji769] Grasshopper could mean this life or the next.

You must have missed my age in the other thread....I may not have that long to wait....and I'm not Buddhist (if that's the religion that gives you multiple lives) nor am I a cat. [emoji12]


PS^sarcasm.
PSS. I just want my hat...
PSSS.^not sarcasm


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[UNK]

You must have missed my age in the other thread....I may not have that long to wait....and I'm not Buddhist (if that's the religion that gives you multiple lives) nor am I a cat. [emoji12]


PS^sarcasm.
PSS. I just want my hat...
PSSS.^not sarcasm


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When I asked Tom if I would see Gadgets for the 320 in my lifetime his response was, "How old are you". :p

[Hot Sauce]

I would guess no considering it started with a hat, changed colors 3 times, turned into a patch and a different hat with velcro, that hat changed colors 2 times, and then it became folks wearing an orange string on their wrists.Kaballah?

[UNK]

I can't remember if I actually said that, but if I did I'm a funny MFer. :cool:

You did and you are. :D

[Corey]

My hats from AFHF are all used up. I'm definitely in for a new P-F hat.

[Leroy Suggs]

I am in for one.

[RJ]

I just wanted to add a brand name/company for consideration:

Yesterday at a Gun Range outside of San Antonio, they had these ball cap shooting hats by Condor.

I was able to examine one very closely.

Condor Mesh Tactical Cap (Tan, One Size Fits All) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O2GUPE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_U.u4yb8AXWTWN

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170402/9a9357da6ce831379625666388443b9a.jpg

They appear to be imported, but of decent quality. The mesh back allows air flow, and there was Velcro on front, rear, and back. It had no top button.

The ones I saw were logo'd, and about $20 retail.

Just wanted to put this in the thread as an option down the road, before I forgot about it.


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[walker2713]

Put me down for at least one.......

[GOTURBACK]

The Condor hats actually fit my man-sized head pretty well. Having said that, I'm not interested in selling an imported hat at this time. I do currently have a tab open in my browser for place that makes (cuts, sews, assembles, and embroiders) hats here in the US. I'll likely get some samples from them in the next few weeks.
That sounds great Tom, I fully support sourcing it from an American based company count me in.

[PNWTO]

I'm in for one or two. Only thing would be I wear a true size 8 hat and like a deep fit.

[Clobbersaurus]

I'm bumping this thread because I really need a new competition hat and probably a shirt too.

:cool:

[NETim]

I just wanted to add a brand name/company for consideration:

Yesterday at a Gun Range outside of San Antonio, they had these ball cap shooting hats by Condor.

I was able to examine one very closely.

Condor Mesh Tactical Cap (Tan, One Size Fits All) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004O2GUPE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_U.u4yb8AXWTWN

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170402/9a9357da6ce831379625666388443b9a.jpg

They appear to be imported, but of decent quality. The mesh back allows air flow, and there was Velcro on front, rear, and back. It had no top button.

The ones I saw were logo'd, and about $20 retail.

Just wanted to put this in the thread as an option down the road, before I forgot about it.


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I have some. They are a good value. Fortunately, they are tactical.

[FNFAN]

Yes, time for a quality hat!

[Irelander]

Just in time for Christmas??

[hufnagel]

just in time before net neutrality kills all gun related internet content? :D

[RJ]

As the OP, given a chance for a hat to come out, or a chance for a Gen 5/G43 Gadget, I think I’d rather have a chance on the SCD.

[FNFAN]

Yeah, no hats this year. Sorry. Next year. Soon™. Whatever. :)

I will have some (probably too many) t-shirts/sweatshirts/hoodies available any day now. They're actually on the taudevgroup website now (https://taudevgroup.myshopify.com/collections/pistol-forum-com) (because I'm too cheap/poor to pay for another web store), I just need to alter the copy from the default. Unfortunately, they are produced on demand (on super fancy high-end DTG printers) so there's no inventory. I have no idea what the order deadline to have them by Christmas is, but I'm sure it's rapidly approaching.

Just ordered one of the coolio black on black items. Great choice to offer those. Will be back for some short sleeve stuff in the spring!

[walker2713]

Count me in.....

[Cory]

So I know this thread is lengthy, and a lot of things have changed. Another hat has been on my mind for a few months, and I was trying to think of something that I would like to represent by wearing a hat. This forum is definitely something I would wear a hat for.

American made, no button, unstructured, with Velcro size adjuster would be pretty much my ideal set up. But I've lived with a button on my hat for along time and could continue to do so, I've worn structured hats before and it's not the end of the world, as long as it fits the Velcro sizing isn't that important. I've never had a mesh back, but would be cool with or without mesh.

Basically, I'm not picky about the hat to much as long as the final product comes together well. The only thing I am picky about is having a hat that doesn't scream gun, but is a subtle hint to those who know. I also wouldn't go for blaze orange...

More or less just wondering if this is still in the works.

-Cory

[blues]

Soon-ish™...

[RJ]

Annual bump...:cool:

[Medusa]

Heh. I’d wear one if it has enough room for a pony tail. All the Motorsports hats I have and just one is comfortable for women w long hair.

[awp_101]

I don't wear hats that often anymore but I'd be in for a quality PF hat.

[donlapalma]

Only if it's a fedora.

[Cory]

Black with an orange PF, unstructured, strap back? Kinda like 47brand?

Or Soon™?

-Cory

[FNFAN]

Just the PF in ultra high quality embroidery like the logo in Mr. Jones forum icon. Or even better the same logo in a black-on-black.

[Clark Jackson]

I'm down.

[okie john]

I'm down.

Same.


Okie John

[blues]

Something with just the P-F (without .com or the words pistol-forum) would be excellent...especially since only the cognoscenti would be the wiser. You know who you are.

(And we could wear it whenever and wherever we wanted.)

[RJ]

Something with just the P-F (without .com or the words pistol-forum) would be excellent...especially since only the cognoscenti would be the wiser. You know who you are.

(And we could wear it whenever and wherever we wanted.)

37018

[Cory]

Maybe the hat should actually say Soon™ somewhere on it. I'm thinking on the back, with a plain PF front.

-Cory

[blues]

Maybe the hat should actually say Soon™ somewhere on it. I'm thinking on the back, with a plain PF front.

-Cory

Inside it should be embroidered: "Smile when you say that."

[Mobettadefense]

Certainly. I can never have too many ball caps.

[FNFAN]

Only if it's a fedora.

37036

[donlapalma]

37036Take my money. Now.

[Drang]

Something with just the P-F (without .com or the words pistol-forum) would be excellent...especially since only the cognoscenti would be the wiser. You know who you are.

(And we could wear it whenever and wherever we wanted.)

"What does 'PF' stand for?"

"Poovey Farms."

[JAD]

Take my money. Now.

If your pimp game is strong enough to wear that hat, you have plenty of money to give.

[RevolverRob]

Something with just the P-F (without .com or the words pistol-forum) would be excellent...especially since only the cognoscenti would be the wiser. You know who you are.

(And we could wear it whenever and wherever we wanted.)

I love this idea. My black-on-black P-F t-shirt is good, but I admit to not liking wearing it without an over-shirt to make it harder to read.


"What does 'PF' stand for?"

"Poovey Farms."

Principal Finger

Pimp Force

Positive Fire

Positional Force

Power Five

Proper Fucked

I can come up with these all day, but I have this sick sense that misanthropist will come up with the best ones.

[Drang]

"What does 'PF' stand for?"

"Poovey Farms."


Principal Finger

Pimp Force

Positive Fire

Positional Force

Power Five

Proper Fucked

I can come up with these all day, but I have this sick sense that misanthropist will come up with the best ones.

Dude, really, it has to be an Archer reference. Think of it as a recognition code, like "The chair is against the door" or "John has a long mustache."

[Stephanie B]

Poverty Firearms

[blues]

Poppin' Fresh

https://www.pillsbury.com/-/media/PB/Images/doughboy/encouragingBalt2.jpg

[Cory]

Personal Foul.

[blues]

Painfully Forward

Potentially Fatal

Pisgah Forest

Pretentious Fraud

Punning Fogie

[fwrun]

Pigeon Forge?

[Stephanie B]

Pigeon Forge?

Start forging pigeons and PETA’s going to be on your ass.