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Crusader8207
07-24-2016, 02:07 PM
I'm contemplating running an RMR on either (or both) my Remington 870 or the Beretta 1301. I like the RMR as it has a nice low profile. Is there anyone running this setup? If so, do you run the optic closer to the rear or more to the front of the rail? What size dot do you prefer? Also open to other suggestions regarding optics on the shotgun. As a point of reference, the 870 has Vang Comp ghost ring sights and the 1301 is the Tactical version with Beretta's ghost ring sights.


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DocGKR
07-24-2016, 03:06 PM
Have mounted several types of RDS on shotguns; the RMR is nice, but I generally prefer a micro-Aimpoint on gauges.

http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b580/DocGKR2/workandplaytubes_zps379650ec.jpg

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El Cid
07-24-2016, 03:54 PM
Sample size of 2: I have had RMR06's flicker on/off under recoil on a 16" AR and a 9mm Glock (non-reciprocating mount). No way I'd trust one on a shotgun. For the same money I'd go with an Aimpont micro.

SteveB
07-24-2016, 06:41 PM
I have the RMR06 on a Benelli M2 in a Scalarworks mount. I haven't seen any flickering, but, while I've shot some slugs and buckshot, this gun sees mostly #7.5 gamer loads.

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OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor
07-24-2016, 08:40 PM
I'm w/ Gary on the AP, have an H1 on an older VCS 870 which functioned flawlessly during a HITs SG class in Aug. 2014.

Liked that setup so well that I bought a 2nd (current gen) VCS 870 in early 2015, added a T1 to it which has also performed w/ out issues since that time frame, to include a Rangemaster SG class & bi-monthly 2G matches. It will be my primary SG @ a HITs SG tuneup in Nov., w/ the older VCS/H1 serving as my backup.

FWIW my first experience w/ RMRs was in 2011-2012 on a Glock, a lower 4 digit serial # RMR, that I had function issues w/ & turned it. Bought a 2nd RMR in 2014 that is in the 11000 ser. range (kudo's for Gary's tip) & it has performed thru some 4K rds. on my M&P CORE.

Used too much verbiage to say thanks to Gary & DB, AP's are my SG optics w/ some 1500+ rds. down range w/ my minuscule sample of two. That said I'm also looking forward to the new AP optic offering that I hope they intro @ 2017 SHOT for another pistol set aside already.

Maple Syrup Actual
07-24-2016, 10:56 PM
I have a shield PSD on my Valtrex PM-5. Eotech-type reticle.

It's the heat. I strongly recommend checking out the Shield optics just for reticle selection.

Plus we beat the hell out of them and they last. I still use aim points a lot, but I'm not convinced that there's anything unique about their durability anymore.

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GJM
07-24-2016, 11:32 PM
I have a shield PSD on my Valtrex PM-5. Eotech-type reticle.

It's the heat. I strongly recommend checking out the Shield optics just for reticle selection.

Plus we beat the hell out of them and they last. I still use aim points a lot, but I'm not convinced that there's anything unique about their durability anymore.

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Is it this one:


http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/electronic-sights/red-dot-sights/sis-center-dot-red-dot-sight-prod82465.aspx

Maple Syrup Actual
07-24-2016, 11:33 PM
Yes indeed!

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GJM
07-24-2016, 11:34 PM
How does the size of the window compare to a T1/2 and RMR? Do you like this on a carbine as well as a shotgun?

Maple Syrup Actual
07-24-2016, 11:36 PM
The window is similar to a t1; the surrounding frame is much heavier, though. I do have one or two on carbines also.

http://calibremag.ca/shield-red-dot-torture-test/

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GJM
07-24-2016, 11:42 PM
The window is similar to a t1; the surrounding frame is much heavier, though. I do have one or two on carbines also.

http://calibremag.ca/shield-red-dot-torture-test/

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Remind me never to loan you something to do a torture test on!

Maple Syrup Actual
07-24-2016, 11:59 PM
I'm told that Shield uses that as promotional material now.

By far the brutal treatment was when we dragged it behind my 4 runner. It hit potholes and skipped three or four feet into the air...no idea how many Gs we subjected it to.

I still have that one, incidentally. I haven't switched it off yet.

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GJM
07-25-2016, 12:03 AM
where is the most economical place to buy it in the US?

Maple Syrup Actual
07-25-2016, 12:08 AM
That I would not know, unfortunately. I honestly don't think I could answer that even about Canada. I try to stay as far as I can from any retail detail in the hopes that I remain immune to influence of any sort.

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El Cid
07-25-2016, 12:28 AM
The window is similar to a t1; the surrounding frame is much heavier, though. I do have one or two on carbines also.

http://calibremag.ca/shield-red-dot-torture-test/

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Stop trying to make me spend all my money! Lol! ;)

Crusader8207
07-25-2016, 08:35 AM
Thank you for the info on the Shield, the price point looks good and I like the Eotech type reticle. It looks like Brownells is the only place that has them here in the US. I may pick one up.


I have a shield PSD on my Valtrex PM-5. Eotech-type reticle.

It's the heat. I strongly recommend checking out the Shield optics just for reticle selection.

Plus we beat the hell out of them and they last. I still use aim points a lot, but I'm not convinced that there's anything unique about their durability anymore.

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JAD
07-25-2016, 08:41 AM
What's the battery life like on the Shield? The review mentions that Aimpoints are 'better,' but I didn't see that elaborated upon.

Maple Syrup Actual
07-25-2016, 09:01 AM
I think they're seeing around a year or so.

I'll check with the author and see if he has more details.

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GJM
08-02-2016, 10:20 AM
Just bought one of these, that gets a T1 low enough to also use factory irons:


https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=2556


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Totem Polar
08-02-2016, 10:35 AM
That Shield test was great.

Dagga Boy
08-02-2016, 11:01 AM
Just bought one of these, that gets a T1 low enough to also use factory irons:


https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=2556


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You running that on an M2?

GJM
08-02-2016, 12:58 PM
You running that on an M2?

M2 or M4 14.

coldcase1984
08-02-2016, 05:41 PM
Have a photo of your M2? Of course I don't have rifle sights on my 21-in. Field.

GJM
08-02-2016, 05:45 PM
Have a photo of your M2? Of course I don't have rifle sights on my 21-in. Field.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/GJMandes/image_zps4wthczsd.jpeg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/GJMandes/media/image_zps4wthczsd.jpeg.html)

Chuck Whitlock
08-06-2016, 08:10 AM
Just bought one of these, that gets a T1 low enough to also use factory irons:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=2556


You running that on an M2?


M2 or M4 14.

So, it will also fit an M1S90? Obviously, the co-witness would only apply with ghost rings, not rifle sights.