View Full Version : Let's talk about SIG's red dot sights
I just played with the Romeo, 5,7, and the RMR one (forgot number). They feel beef, they look awesome, and I want them.
The RMR version had a HUGE field of view, it was so clear I had to run it around to make sure it had glass in it.
Anybody have any experience with these yet? I know they are new..
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taadski
07-07-2016, 05:25 PM
I'm waiting for the Golden Dragon version myself. :cool:
SGT_Calle
07-07-2016, 05:44 PM
Did I hear correctly that they are going to offer some sort of milled 320 with their rmr as a package?
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gtmtnbiker98
07-07-2016, 06:45 PM
Did I hear correctly that they are going to offer some sort of milled 320 with their rmr as a package?
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Mark Housel told me he thought the Romeo 1 looked like a great pistol optic, when he handled it at SHOT.
Are they available for purchase yet without a slide attached to them, and do they work with a plate supplied with the Glock MOS?
El Cid
07-07-2016, 08:00 PM
The Romeo 4 interests me - a micro style red dot with a larger ring (similar to EOCrap).
Didn't see the 4. The RMR interested me enough that I want to shoot carry optics with it.
El Cid
07-07-2016, 09:33 PM
Didn't see the 4. The RMR interested me enough that I want to shoot carry optics with it.
Looks promising. I'm hoping to let others be beta testers. Lol!
http://www.sigoptics.com/model/romeo4b-1x20-mm/
Luke, here is your new Carry Optics rig:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/569835695
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The red dot I saw was a different shape then that one GJM? That's odd... Might go back tomorrow and get pictures.
If I get a CO gun it will be a 320. I wish team sig would notice my mediocrity and offer me a spot on the team so I could just have free SIG's. Until then I'll save my pennies like a good little shooter.
Luke, here is your new Carry Optics rig:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/569835695
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Dear god I want that.
The red dot I saw was a different shape then that one GJM? That's odd... Might go back tomorrow and get pictures.
If I get a CO gun it will be a 320. I wish team sig would notice my mediocrity and offer me a spot on the team so I could just have free SIG's. Until then I'll save my pennies like a good little shooter.
I would look hard at the 320 carry, if it is anything like the Glock MOS pistols. I have two 34, two 17, and more 19 MOS. The shorter slide 19 definitely out shoots the 17 and 34 in my hands, despite my preference for the full size grip.
I will! I hope they make a optic ready carry size.
SteveB
07-08-2016, 07:37 AM
I would look hard at the 320 carry, if it is anything like the Glock MOS pistols. I have two 34, two 17, and more 19 MOS. The shorter slide 19 definitely out shoots the 17 and 34 in my hands, despite my preference for the full size grip.
The Carry (stupid name) is the sweet spot of the 320 lineup. An equivalent Glock would have a 19 slide on a 17 frame. On the timer, the Carry yields faster recovery and transitions than the FS. The FS was better at 25, but Mark Housel installed a DP on my Carry slide and I am nailing my 6” steel at 25; way better than irons. For me, this pistol beats the G19 MOS or ATOM guns. The setup seemed a bit tall at first, but a bunch of DF practice solved the first shot dot issue.
The red dot I saw was a different shape then that one GJM? That's odd... Might go back tomorrow and get pictures.
Was it the Romeo 3 that you saw? I think that is the one that looks like a C-more RTS2.
Was it the Romeo 3 that you saw? I think that is the one that looks like a C-more RTS2.
Yep! That's it. Pretty little feller.
okie john
07-08-2016, 10:56 AM
Anyone coonfingered the Romeo 1 or 3 yet? I know it constitutes crossing the beams, but I could easily see one of those on a MOS G19.
Okie John
The T2 competitors look A LOT like Holosun optics to me.
The T2 competitors look A LOT like Holosun optics to me.
Sssshhhhhhh!!! Don't say that :(
I thought that myself, and really the primary arms dots are pretty good, they are no aimpoint, but for what they are they be good. Hopefully this is a step above the primary arms. I really want to buy one and try and break it. Just need $150 to break.
SteveB
07-09-2016, 06:35 AM
Here's the 320DP:
8999
Drang
07-10-2016, 01:34 AM
Did I hear correctly that they are going to offer some sort of milled 320 with their rmr as a package?
As seen at #NRAAM 2015!:
9050
And currently (maybe) in stock at a Cabelas near you!: SIG Sauer® P320 Pistol : Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/handguns/semiautomatic-pistols|/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/105526980/i/105529680/sig-sauer-reg-p320-pistol/2358450.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fsemi automatic-pistols%2F_%2FN-1114851%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105529680)
okie john
07-10-2016, 10:45 AM
As seen at #NRAAM 2015!:
9050
And currently (maybe) in stock at a Cabelas near you!: SIG Sauer® P320 Pistol : Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/handguns/semiautomatic-pistols|/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/105526980/i/105529680/sig-sauer-reg-p320-pistol/2358450.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fsemi automatic-pistols%2F_%2FN-1114851%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105529680)
$799 ready to go is not a bad deal.
Okie John
archangel
07-11-2016, 02:50 PM
Don't need another SIG. Don't need another SIG. Don't need another SIG.
9050
Crap.
My lgs just got a "sig store". I've been a Glock guy and after visiting I really appreciate the beauty of a sig. If I ever stray from Glock it'll be for sig.
That said, they had a bunch of sig optics and I snapped some pics but it turns out they didn't have any of the new ones.
Anyways here's pics http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/dcb39ae218e4120d85f7648c434183ea.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/0c460d01644a2fa54ca4f74b9f103011.jpg
And just another picture because it's cool http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/a147686fbfbec8320a16c5189b35e82b.jpg
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45dotACP
07-11-2016, 09:30 PM
As seen at #NRAAM 2015!:
9050
And currently (maybe) in stock at a Cabelas near you!: SIG Sauer® P320 Pistol : Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/handguns/semiautomatic-pistols|/pc/104792580/c/553829580/sc/105526980/i/105529680/sig-sauer-reg-p320-pistol/2358450.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fsemi automatic-pistols%2F_%2FN-1114851%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_105529680)
Hmmm...now that's a cool looking setup...I may need to test fire a Sig 320 soon.
One simply does not "test fire" a P320.. The P320 test fires you..
Default.mp3
07-11-2016, 10:07 PM
FYI, SIG optics are available on Promotive, should you qualify.
El Cid
07-11-2016, 10:10 PM
My lgs just got a "sig store". I've been a Glock guy and after visiting I really appreciate the beauty of a sig. If I ever stray from Glock it'll be for sig.
That said, they had a bunch of sig optics and I snapped some pics but it turns out they didn't have any of the new ones.
Anyways here's pics http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/dcb39ae218e4120d85f7648c434183ea.jpghttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/0c460d01644a2fa54ca4f74b9f103011.jpg
And just another picture because it's cool http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160711/a147686fbfbec8320a16c5189b35e82b.jpg
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Were you able to look through the Romeo 4? I'm curious how the image looks since it appears to be a melding of EOTech and Aimoount style reticles.
Were you able to look through the Romeo 4? I'm curious how the image looks since it appears to be a melding of EOTech and Aimoount style reticles.
Yes I did. I don't have much knowledge on optics or red dots but I was surprised at how crisp the dot was and how small it was. I've looked through some cheap red dots before and they always had a starburst appearance to them because I have astigmatism.
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El Cid
07-12-2016, 07:16 AM
Yes I did. I don't have much knowledge on optics or red dots but I was surprised at how crisp the dot was and how small it was. I've looked through some cheap red dots before and they always had a starburst appearance to them because I have astigmatism.
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Thanks. How about the 65moa ring? Was it grainy like EOTechs?
Thanks. How about the 65moa ring? Was it grainy like EOTechs?
Sorry, I don't know what that is. I'm a total newb at all this.
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El Cid
07-12-2016, 09:55 AM
Sorry, I don't know what that is. I'm a total newb at all this.
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Scroll down to the reticle image here: http://www.sigoptics.com/model/romeo4b-1x20-mm/
On EOTechs the ring was fuzzy, especially as you made it brighter. I'm hoping Sig has a better way of creating it.
psalms144.1
07-12-2016, 10:35 AM
Disclosure: I don't know poop about poop about Sig's optics, how/where their made, or how they operate. Having said that, if the ring/dot reticle is produced through holography, like the EOTech, I would run, not walk, away from it, unless you want to have never ending issues with thermal drift. And, no, I'm not an expert on holography or an engineer of any kind, but I've spoken to quite a few over the last couple of years.
If they're projecting that ring image onto the lense with a direct projection like Aimpoint's dots, I'd be much less worried.
El Cid
07-12-2016, 10:39 AM
Disclosure: I don't know poop about poop about Sig's optics, how/where their made, or how they operate. Having said that, if the ring/dot reticle is produced through holography, like the EOTech, I would run, not walk, away from it, unless you want to have never ending issues with thermal drift. And, no, I'm not an expert on holography or an engineer of any kind, but I've spoken to quite a few over the last couple of years.
If they're projecting that ring image onto the lense with a direct projection like Aimpoint's dots, I'd be much less worried.
Hmm. So it wasn't so much a problem with EOTech being shady as the technology isn't there yet? Luckily I'm not in a hurry. The rifle I want this for is still in pieces and I expect the Form 1 to clear in a year. Lol! I can let others be beta testers.
Scroll down to the reticle image here: http://www.sigoptics.com/model/romeo4b-1x20-mm/
On EOTechs the ring was fuzzy, especially as you made it brighter. I'm hoping Sig has a better way of creating it.
Interesting. The one I looked into was a single dot. I didn't mess with any settings.
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El Cid
07-12-2016, 10:56 AM
Interesting. The one I looked into was a single dot. I didn't mess with any settings.
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Roger that. Thanks.
Wayne Dobbs
07-12-2016, 11:17 AM
Does anybody know who makes Sig's optics and where? Could it be......CHINA??
There are some eeeeeeerie similarities between the Sig Romeo 4 series and some of the Holosun series RDS. That doesn't mean the Sig's are crap and will get you killed. If it's a good scope it's a good scope no matter who made it. iPhones are made in a China as is 99% of the stuff we consume.
HopetonBrown
07-12-2016, 01:09 PM
Does anybody know who makes Sig's optics and where? Could it be......CHINA??
I was surprised to read at least some of them were made in Japan.
Sig Romeo 4 = $160
aimpoint T-2 = $700
Some people (me) don't need the aimpoint. I've shot 20 rounds through my rifle this year.
spinmove_
07-13-2016, 11:56 AM
Sig Romeo 4 = $160
aimpoint T-2 = $700
Some people (me) don't need the aimpoint. I've shot 20 rounds through my rifle this year.
Some of us want quality inexpensive items to try before committing to something of far better quality and robustness to figure out what they do and do not like. Personally I keep going between wanting an MRO and an AccuPower, but snagging something like a Holosun and Burris MTAC works to give me a better idea of what works for me and which I'll ultimately go with. That and I can always move the budget optics to the "training gun" and keep the GOOD stuff for my go-to gun.
I think the primary arms/holosun are worth every penny. That's what I was saying. For $160 I still think you will get your monies worth.
spinmove_
07-13-2016, 12:27 PM
I think the primary arms/holosun are worth every penny. That's what I was saying. For $160 I still think you will get your monies worth.
Exactly. I'm not expecting to get Aimpoint or Trijicon quality out of a Primary Arms or Burris inexpensive optic. Ultimately I know how to aim with irons, but I'd rather have an example of each to screw around with to determine what works for me before dropping good money on something that I'll ultimately end up not liking and then try to sell off and lose more money than what I would have spent on a PA or Burris.
Max Michel, team sig team captain, just uploaded a picture to Instagram of his 320 wearing a Cmore....... You would almost think he would have a Romeo.
HopetonBrown
07-14-2016, 01:45 PM
Some might call that a clue.
Max Michel, team sig team captain, just uploaded a picture to Instagram of his 320 wearing a Cmore....... You would almost think he would have a Romeo.
taadski
07-14-2016, 02:12 PM
Some might call that a clue.
LOL. That's exactly what I was thinking. :)
http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/hook_setter/C0937A76-C697-46CA-80C9-B22B97D197D3_zpsjadjrfoy.png (http://s400.photobucket.com/user/hook_setter/media/C0937A76-C697-46CA-80C9-B22B97D197D3_zpsjadjrfoy.png.html)
I guess when your that good you can do what ever you want.
He also shoots a dan badell open gun with "SIG" wrote across the slide LOL.
HopetonBrown
07-14-2016, 03:55 PM
I'm sure Max still uses C-More's on his Open guns.
Let's just pretend for a moment that Sig optics were truly junk and fell apart every time Max used one.
Would he say that as his reason for using a C-More on his Instagram? His response was about the only one he could use without creating a firestorm.
I thought the same thing too. No mention of sig stuff is great I just prefer this. Lol he's doing s heck of a job promoting sig.
OnionsAndDragons
09-25-2016, 03:18 PM
I wanna bump this up. I know some of these are out in the wild now.
Anyone had experience with these yet?
Paul D
09-25-2016, 04:49 PM
I wanna bump this up. I know some of these are out in the wild now.
Anyone had experience with these yet?
Has anybody seen the Romeo1 out yet either?
LOKNLOD
09-25-2016, 05:11 PM
I looked through the Romeo 4 (same one 1776United looked at, same shop) and I thought it was really slick. I've never been an EOtech guy, but if you like that circle-dot, it seemed like a winner. Very crisp reticle.
NCmtnman
09-26-2016, 09:40 PM
Just at a casual glance at my LGS, I like the Romeo 4 better than the Trijicon MRS. The Trijicon gives me some awkward magnification and blue hue. Maybe it's just me. Is the Trijicon more durable? I would think so.
Anyways, http://www.guns.com/2016/08/31/new-hampshire-staties-buy-sig-optics/
David S.
09-14-2017, 12:43 PM
Any update on these, particularly the Romeo4?
Any update on these, particularly the Romeo4?
I accidentally dropped a Romeo 4 on a tile floor, from a few feet, when I was mounting it last spring. Cracked the lens, making it unusable. Sig replaced it, after a few months, but an Aimpoint seems much tougher.
David S.
09-14-2017, 01:07 PM
Cool thanks. Not going to be a hard use gun, and I don't have aimpoint $$ for this project.
How did you like it while it worked?
Considering a PA Micro Advanced, Vortex SPARC II or this to go atop a HD 870. A couple hundred rounds per year in Bolke's Shotgun class is likely all it will ever see. I don't have any red dot experience yet, but the circle dot seems like it would suit the role well. (Fast pick up at close range, not because I think 65MOA is how my shotgun patterns.)
Cool thanks. Not going to be a hard use gun, and I don't have aimpoint $$ for this project.
How did you like it while it worked?
Considering a PA Micro Advanced, Vortex SPARC II or this to go atop a HD 870. A couple hundred rounds per year in Bolke's Shotgun class is likely all it will ever see. I don't have any red dot experience yet, but the circle dot seems like it would suit the role well. (Fast pick up at close range, not because I think 65MOA is how my shotgun patterns.)
My wife and I prefer the single dot mode on a carbine, but the big reticle could be good on a shotgun. It is decent but you know it is not an Aimpoint when you handle it.
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