Tuckable IWB . Deep concealment holster

[Robert Mitchum]

A friend lives in a very anti gun State ... needs a deep concealment Tuckable holster.
His job frowns on carrying a pistol during work hours .. but he works in some bad places and is willing to risk carrying at work ... better getting fired than dead if he had nothing on him .
Shirt has to be tucked in at work. Best pistol and holster set up ?
He has a FS M&P 9 which is to big .. also has M&P Shield and XD-s 3.3 9mm.
The dude is 6 Feet 5 inches 265 pounds
Thanks for any help !!

[BillSWPA]

A tuckable IWB holster does not provide a level of concealment I would want for non-NPE carry, and I certainly would never bet a job on one. Tucking in the shirt almost invariably creates a gun-shaped bulge, and there is almost always a visible belt attachment.

The Shield is about the biggest thing that might be workable, and might be pushing the limits. If carried in a front pants pocket using a DeSantis Superfly with the anti-print panel left on the holster, it could work. If there is ANY doubt about whether it will work, go with something smaller like a Kel-Tec P3AT.

Carrying at work means carrying for 40-50 hours/week, being observed by the same people all day, including women who will spot details that men will miss. Any irregularity will become the subject of gossip as they try to figure out what it is. Job loss could be very costly. With all of this in mind, the gun must be smaller and better concealed than would be necessary in other circumstances.

[orionz06]

Smaller gun, Smart Carry. Tuckable holsters don't fool anyone.

[voodoo_man]

Vanguard 2.

Ive tucked it into a suit several times no one ever knew.

[UNK]

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?20978-Zorn-Skinny-Rig-Holster Maybe this one. I'd like to see them do something to make the wing taper away from the trigger guard instead of ending abruptly. It creates a questionable bulge as noted in the thread pics but that could b be remedied easily enough if it is indeed a problem. I would add Velcro inside the belt as the attachment point and get a thin pistol like a walther PPS 2 or a Kahr P9. Wedges if needed can be bought from Keepers concealment. Blouse your shirt and no one will ever know.
I was originally going to recommend the RCS ACR but it looks like they don't offer it anymore. It needed modifications anyway.

[Robert Mitchum]

I will pass along the info to him .. Thanks to all who posted!!

[MD7305]

I've been using JMCK Tuckable AIWB for a few months now with my Glock 43 and I really like it. http://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/AIWB-TUCKABLE.html

[Duces Tecum]

What Orionz06 said: a SmartCarry and a small gun.

A J-frame (whose "roundness" is helpful) or a PPS-2 (reload-ability) might work well. Few, very few people look for a gun on an obviously employed and appropriately dressed person in a place where he is supposed to be. Those things (not looking like a thug and not being out-of-bounds) are almost as important as a SmartCarry worn very low.

[BillSWPA]

What Orionz06 said: a SmartCarry and a small gun.

A J-frame (whose "roundness" is helpful) or a PPS-2 (reload-ability) might work well. Few, very few people look for a gun on an obviously employed and appropriately dressed person in a place where he is supposed to be. Those things (not looking like a thug and not being out-of-bounds) are almost as important as a SmartCarry worn very low.

While I agree with the suggestion of a Smart Carry, I respectfully disagree with the premise that signs of a gun will not be noticed. We typically spend 40-50 hours/week at work, being observed by the same people day after day. Few men appreciate how much more women notice than men. That slight bulge or belt attachment that we think will go unnoticed WILL be noticed by someone. While we might accept a 1% chance of getting caught with a gun at the local shopping mall, once one of the ladies at the office notices that out of place detail, she will mention it of her co-workers. They will then look for it and try to figure out what it is. That 1% chance now becomes 5%, then 10%, and keeps getting worse from there until the gun is discovered. All it takes is one person noticing one out of place detail, and job loss can result.

Will one ever be standing in a place where a seated colleague might be eye level with the gun? Is there a plan to secure the gun during a trip to the post office or other place where it cannot be carried, as well as to transition it to and from one's person? Is one ever going to be seated in a place where one's ankle will be exposed as the pants leg rises up to reveal an ankle holster). Is there an easy way to work things out in a men's room? Is your workplace one in which you might be asked to empty your pockets? Is there any likelihood that a co-worker might place their hand on one's back and come in contact with the gun? If the gun carrier is female, do the ladies in the office typically give each other hugs?

These issues need to be given careful consideration before one carries at work. I have yet to see a tuckable holster I would trust to fill this need.

[Kennydale]

Smaller gun, Smart Carry. Tuckable holsters don't fool anyone.

Deep conceal not the fastest draw but DOABLE.

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My 3Speed Holster (http://3speedholster.com/#oid=1003_1) I have worn mine in DEEP CONCEAL at formal events.

[PNWTO]

I'm encounter some of the same hurdles trying to roll with my G19 and a reload in business casual. I will be ordering a 3 Speed but I took a risk and ,after verifying the return policy, ordered a Cherries "Below-the-waistband" holster (http://www.cherriesapparel.com/collections/all/products/medina-below-the-waistband-bwb-deep-concealment-holster). After I have it a few days I will post some impressions.

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[orionz06]

I'm encounter some of the same hurdles trying to roll with my G19 and a reload in business casual. I will be ordering a 3 Speed but I took a risk and ,after verifying the return policy, ordered a Cherries "Below-the-waistband" holster (http://www.cherriesapparel.com/collections/all/products/medina-below-the-waistband-bwb-deep-concealment-holster). After I have it a few days I will post some impressions.

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I've been waiting to hear feedback on those...

[PNWTO]

I've been waiting to hear feedback on those...

I'll let you know.... color mw very skeptical.

[GuanoLoco]

A MIC (Minimal Inside Carry) kydrx trigger guard holster with a smaller gun like a Shield or P3AT is IMHO quite do-able without a visible attachment device. Then again I have a slim waistline and have little difficulties concealing even a Glock Subcompact/extended mag a tucked/slightly bloused T or dress shirt.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Depending on the type of work he does and the type of shirt he wears, perhaps one of the holster shirts, kangaroo carry, or pistolwear's offerings might be workable?

http://www.511tactical.com/mens/mens-shirts/mens-holster-shirts.html

https://www.kangaroocarry.com/

http://www.pistolwear.com/trump-card-concealment-holster/

A shirt that was a little loose around the chest area might make concealment easier.

[Irelander]

I'm encounter some of the same hurdles trying to roll with my G19 and a reload in business casual. I will be ordering a 3 Speed but I took a risk and ,after verifying the return policy, ordered a Cherries "Below-the-waistband" holster (http://www.cherriesapparel.com/collections/all/products/medina-below-the-waistband-bwb-deep-concealment-holster). After I have it a few days I will post some impressions.

8941

Interested in your review.

[Irelander]

Anyone have experience with the Dale Fricke - Jonathan© Deep Concealment IWB Holster? Not tuckable but looks like it could work well for deep concealment.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47624012/DF_Jonathan.JPG (http://dalefrickeholsters.com/product/jonathan-deep-concealment/)

[41magfan]

A guy that big could probably wear a decent size gun above the waistline and next to the body in a bellyband rig of some sort, but presenting the gun will be slow and the movement associated with bringing the gun to bear isn't likely to go unnoticed.

His best alternative is likely to be a pocket gun and he would have to decide what gun is doable based on the style of pants he routinely wears.

I remain more convinced than ever that if you're just an average Joe, with no significant or particular risks to manage, pocket carry makes it possible to satisfy Rule #1 in a practical way with any manner of dress.

[Robert Mitchum]

Thanks again to all who responded ! Passing along all the words of wisdom!
Much appreciated !

[BobLoblaw]

I'm encounter some of the same hurdles trying to roll with my G19 and a reload in business casual. I will be ordering a 3 Speed but I took a risk and ,after verifying the return policy, ordered a Cherries "Below-the-waistband" holster (http://www.cherriesapparel.com/collections/all/products/medina-below-the-waistband-bwb-deep-concealment-holster). After I have it a few days I will post some impressions.

8941

I also look forward to a review. Thunder thighs here is a no go on the pant pocket holsters.

[BillSWPA]

Much like IWB holsters, pocket holsters are somewhat dependent on good selection of pants. I generally prefer dress slacks made from a heavier fabric. I hate to say Dockers because Levi Strauss Co. is anti-gun, but they work well. Lately I wear a similar dress slack from Eddie Bauer. You need to buy either relaxed fit and/or an extra 2" in the waistband, just as you would for an IWB holster. Pleats help.

I am average size, and as I type this from my office, I have a Glock 26 in my pocket in a DeSantis Superfly holster. I am self-employed so I get to do what I want. I would pick something much smaller for a true NPE.

The nice think about pockets is that people expect people to carry things in them. A bulge is no surprise. It just can't be too prominent or gun-shaped.

Re: pocket holster selection: In addition to picking a holster for minimized bulk, I also try to have an anti-print panel, even for front pocket carry. Something that covers the rear sight as well as the grip is helpful not only for concealment but also for minimizing pocket wear and tear. A DeSantis Superfly generally works well for a Glock 26, but does not allow a full firing grip for this gun. A fast draw is still possible with practice, and other models of this holster for other guns do allow for a full firing grip. For something smaller like a Kel-Tec P3AT, I use a C. Rusty Sherrick Dirty Doug holster. Rusty can make his holsters to accommodate this gun with a Crimson Trace LaserGuard.