Nightforce 1-4 IHR (picture request)

[Unobtanium]

Does anyone have one? If so, can you be troubled tk take a reticle pic on 1x? Looking for a dynamic background (your livingroom, back yard, whatever. Not just a whitewall shot). Further, in your experience is this reticle suited to cqb/shoot house type use? Is it fast up close day or night?

[Unobtanium]

Noone?

[Luke]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/682044_Opinion_pictures_of_Nightforce_1_4_reticles ___IHR_vs__FC_3G_.html

Found that. I googled "nightforce 1-4 IHR" and there is more in google images.

[CS Tactical]

We haven't had one in awhile or else I'd have helped you out...

[Unobtanium]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/682044_Opinion_pictures_of_Nightforce_1_4_reticles ___IHR_vs__FC_3G_.html

Found that. I googled "nightforce 1-4 IHR" and there is more in google images.

Still nothing of it on 1x.

[Unobtanium]

We haven't had one in awhile or else I'd have helped you out...

Noone in Austin, Dallas, or San Antonio did, either :( Noone has one *frustrate*

[SteveB]

I shot one of these last year (1-4X) on a friend's DG rifle. One of our DG drills is shoot the 50 yard target, run the bolt, shoot the 25 yard target, run the bolt, shoot the 10 yard target, timed. I found the IHR to be a very good reticle for this application, but I've always been a fan of the German #4. Great glass, uncluttered reticle, I liked the floating lit crosshair. All in all, a very good hunting scope. It wouldn't be my first choice for a PD or gamer rifle. If you want NF, the FC-2 reticle is way better for those applications. I did not care for the FC-3G; I've seen several examples and the illumination is unacceptably dim, IMO.

[Unobtanium]

I shot one of these last year (1-4X) on a friend's DG rifle. One of our DG drills is shoot the 50 yard target, run the bolt, shoot the 25 yard target, run the bolt, shoot the 10 yard target, timed. I found the IHR to be a very good reticle for this application, but I've always been a fan of the German #4. Great glass, uncluttered reticle, I liked the floating lit crosshair. All in all, a very good hunting scope. It wouldn't be my first choice for a PD or gamer rifle. If you want NF, the FC-2 reticle is way better for those applications. I did not care for the FC-3G; I've seen several examples and the illumination is unacceptably dim, IMO.

I already have an FC-2, and love it. I want an IHR with Zerostop for more "precise" work, but I also want it to be FAST up close. Is the IHR that much slower than the FC-2? Harder to lose in "clutter" significantly?

[SteveB]

I already have an FC-2, and love it. I want an IHR with Zerostop for more "precise" work, but I also want it to be FAST up close. Is the IHR that much slower than the FC-2? Harder to lose in "clutter" significantly?

It is a fine crosshair; more precise, slower, easier to lose in clutter. I like the Swaro 1-6 better; precise aiming point, very bright dot when you need it.

[Unobtanium]

It is a fine crosshair; more precise, slower, easier to lose in clutter. I like the Swaro 1-6 better; precise aiming point, very bright dot when you need it.

I have owned Kahles (K16i), and prefer the NF 1-4 platform.
How "easier to lose" is it compared to the FC-2? Is it to the point where if someone slapped it on a patrol carbine you would call it "a bad decision", or would you simply say "Meh, maybe they have a different preference from me..."? Basically, the FC2 is FAST for me, but I also want zerostop, and ability to use it a little further out. I don't want to give up much in the speed dept.

Is this comparing a Z06 to a Viper, or are we comparing a Z06 to a Miata, here, in the speed dept?

[SLG]

I don't buy NF scopes for their reticles, until you get above 10X. I buy them for their bombproofness, in every way.

I have been using the standard mil-dot reticle in a 2.5-10 for a while, and find it as fast as any other NF reticle in the 1-4 or 2.5-10 family.

I find the IHR to be just fine, but if I wanted longer range ability (which I do) as well as close up speed, I would choose the Mil-dot for now.

[Unobtanium]

I don't buy NF scopes for their reticles, until you get above 10X. I buy them for their bombproofness, in every way.

I have been using the standard mil-dot reticle in a 2.5-10 for a while, and find it as fast as any other NF reticle in the 1-4 or 2.5-10 family.

I find the IHR to be just fine, but if I wanted longer range ability (which I do) as well as close up speed, I would choose the Mil-dot for now.

Roger that. I simply don't want something I have trouble picking up in the woods, house, etc rapidly.

[Unobtanium]

I FINALLY tracked down a photo of the IHR on 1x.
Now I just wonder...will this be fast enough up close for a home defense/wooded area rifle?

http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r775/bornSINNERintermediates/NXS5_zpsa488b14b.jpeg

[Unobtanium]

Can the ZS turrets be used without locking the clutch? Simply remove the caps after zeroing, orient them to "zero", and then use the turrets to dial for whatever your needs are, relying on the visual orientation of them vs. a physical "hard stop"? Basically ignoring the 4 screws under the cap.

Someone told me the ZS HAS TO BE used on the 1-4...but then how do you zero it?

[Unobtanium]

I had a line on an fc2, but it fell through. Still have zero hands on with the IHR. Anyone actually use one? Is it fast up close?

[Unobtanium]

Laugh if you want, but I drew both of these reticles to spec, for 10 meter viewing, and looked at the FC-2 one through my FC-2 NF, and it was bang-on, except I suck at making circles, and the circle on my actual FC-2 was VERY SLIGHTLY thicker than the circle I drew. I suspect that NF fudged the spec on it a tiny bit, as at 10 meters, it should be 0.2" thick, as I drew it. The 2 MOA dot in the middle of my drawing was 100% perfectly sized to my actual reticle. as was the diameter of the circle around it. I would wager I got the IHR center hairs pretty damn close to actual.

Anyway, shocking, it was pretty much a wash, in my opinion, just looking at the two. I think the IHR might actually be faster due to the 3rd "main beam" on the horizontal plane providing another reference point to lead the eye to center.

Sadly, I was screwed over by the company I thought I was buying an FC-2 from a month ago, so I will end up getting a refund, or filing with my bank, and buying an IHR NF.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/13950806_829247331141_295409091_o.jpg?oh=08cadcfa3 22a3b6601a218e094408e64&oe=57AC2914

Don't laugh, this is what you do when you understand simple maths yet have no stores within 800 miles that carry the thing you want to fondle.