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Cool Breeze
04-10-2016, 04:21 PM
This may sound silly and this post is more impulsive than anything. I was inspired by El Cid's pics in the glock picture thread which showed every color glock. I confess I have 2 original gen 3 glocks in OD. The question is.... Is there any advantage to actually having a different color (and if so which color) besides cool factor? This question is for anyone and any scenario (concealed carry, agency, military, and etc.)

In the 5 min I have been thinking about it I have come up with:

1) easier to clean - it's a lot easier for me to see black carbon on a non-black gun so I know pretty easily it's all perfectly clean.

2) maybe less intimidating if comes accidentally unconcealed?

3) I don't think it has to do with pistols but with long guns they are less hot to the touch in the sun drenched all day training classes.

4) in the desert or forest maybe a brown/od/green could help with camouflaging yourself if you want that look

Other than that, I actually think black is better because if your concealment garment does come up, etc... The black will look more like a shadow then a gun. I could be wrong on all of this. Could be a fun discussion though.... Those glocks are pretty and I'm probably just looking for a reason to buy one!

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LOKNLOD
04-10-2016, 04:26 PM
If you have multiple identically setup guns, it's a quick visual indicator of which one you're using.


Also, "I think it looks cool" is acceptable.

pr1042
04-10-2016, 04:40 PM
The original OD green Gen 3s were worth quite a bit more if/when selling but don't think that is the case anymore now that there are a ton of colors out there

noguns
04-10-2016, 04:42 PM
My fde g26 more closely resembles my skin color in case my cover garment comes up.

Bigghoss
04-10-2016, 04:54 PM
#1 It looks bad ass.

#2 Heating up from sitting in the sun doesn't take very long so having a gun in something like desert tan would be nice in the summer.

#3 It looks bad ass.

Savage Hands
04-10-2016, 05:04 PM
No real advantage, some people just want a different color gun sometime.

voodoo_man
04-10-2016, 05:47 PM
My next glock will have an FDE lower for no other reason than "that's cool" factor.

Kyle Reese
04-10-2016, 06:20 PM
None whatsoever, IMO.

FNFAN
04-10-2016, 07:05 PM
My tactical trivia recollection device seems to recall mention that a ninja black outfit/gun is easier to spot at night in a desert environment when viewed with night vision -than a lighter color. Could be pure nonsense, but I'm thinking someone here will know.

Drang
04-10-2016, 07:20 PM
Black cloth, at least, does show up better -- almost glows, in fact -- when viewed at night through light amplification devices ("starlight scope".) That was the real reason the Army's "Universal Camouflage Pattern" has no black in it, just like the original "night desert" uniforms. (Which were designed to be worn over your regular uniform, and not just for desert use. IIRC, they got labeled a "desert uniform" as a cover during development, but since they were labeled that way that's all they got issued as. I think they'd fallen out of the system by Desert Storm, but I'm not sure, as I spent Desert Storm at Ft Lewis deactivating the 9th ID).

Anyway, I'm not positive that the principle applies to all black objects, or just certain textures.

Odin Bravo One
04-10-2016, 07:37 PM
Just not even sure how to respond at this point.

El Cid
04-10-2016, 07:48 PM
I entered active duty after Desert Storm, but I worked closely with the PJ's. When this subject came up several mentioned they painted anything that was black (think small buckles on the old LBE) in the desert environment because of black standing out under NODS.

For concealed carry I don't know that the color matters at all. For people with missions that require them to be camouflaged in order to avoid being seen and maybe killed... I would expect a black pistol would stick out. If my history is correct the Dark Earth Glocks were developed for a SMU in NC. We have SME's here who may be able to say what if any testing was done but I doubt it. Having the plastic made in those colors beats rattle can IMO.

For me - I like how they look. I grew tired of all black firearms and just wanted some variety. Glad I could inspire a thread without doing something derpy (is there a verb form of derp?). Lol!

orionz06
04-11-2016, 05:29 AM
Black is for squares, FDE is where it's at. It's also more of a coyote.


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VT1032
04-11-2016, 06:09 AM
I've heard that the black glocks are larger then the white glocks.... No first hand experience though...

Nephrology
04-11-2016, 06:42 AM
If you have multiple identically setup guns, it's a quick visual indicator of which one you're using.


Also, "I think it looks cool" is acceptable.

This is probably the best/only real reason unless you're deploying with the gun. I make sure all of my 40-9 conversion barrels are stainless for the same reason.


I've heard that the black glocks are larger then the white glocks.... No first hand experience though...

You know what they say about large backstraps...

GJM
04-11-2016, 07:23 AM
Rule 1 is to look good. The way I was taught by JHC is you wear a black Glock and black holster with a black shirt, and green Glock with green holster with a green or tan shirt.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/GJMandes/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsevwwhvsp.jpeg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/GJMandes/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsevwwhvsp.jpeg.html)

JHC
04-11-2016, 07:26 AM
Color doesn't really matter.

Unless it Battlefield Green. Then it's always Battlefield Green. ;)

Chuck Haggard
04-11-2016, 08:42 AM
Maybe someone else here knows more on the subject, but I have heard from several sources that the colors of plastic other than black for things like this, pistol frames, MagPul mags, etc., are less durable than the black plastic.

If I wanted a Glock that wasn't black I'd get it coated. It's pretty easy to do.

Peally
04-11-2016, 09:03 AM
Just not even sure how to respond at this point.

Like this:

Spring colors will cut your FAST times by about .6 give or take. Darker fall colors tend to get less results, maybe only .3 on a good day.

Chuck Haggard
04-11-2016, 09:31 AM
Rule 1 is to look good. The way I was taught by JHC is you wear a black Glock and black holster with a black shirt, and green Glock with green holster with a green or tan shirt.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/GJMandes/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsevwwhvsp.jpeg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/GJMandes/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsevwwhvsp.jpeg.html)



What sights do you have on those guns?

EVP
04-11-2016, 09:35 AM
Honestly the only "advantage" is from the manufacture side. Eveytime they come out with another color is seems to produce another surge of interest or sales.

orionz06
04-11-2016, 09:39 AM
Maybe someone else here knows more on the subject, but I have heard from several sources that the colors of plastic other than black for things like this, pistol frames, MagPul mags, etc., are less durable than the black plastic.

If I wanted a Glock that wasn't black I'd get it coated. It's pretty easy to do.

Lighter plastic colors in some plastics have been weaker. In the case of the Glock frame it matters far less. The frame doesn't really do much that would cause concern.

Chuck Haggard
04-11-2016, 09:50 AM
Lighter plastic colors in some plastics have been weaker. In the case of the Glock frame it matters far less. The frame doesn't really do much that would cause concern.

I'm thinking more like 20 years down the road........

orionz06
04-11-2016, 09:55 AM
We've had the old baby shit Glocks for some time now as well as many others, not sure there have been issues to speak of.

If we're talking Pmags that are gonna have to be long term items I'm buying black all day. The Glock frames don't excite me though, even long term.


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Peally
04-11-2016, 09:58 AM
Does this mean we're officially out of stuff to talk about?

Cool kids cerakote everything. You could even get flannel if you need public camo.

Default.mp3
04-11-2016, 10:04 AM
What sights do you have on those guns?Looks like Heinie Ledge rears.

GJM
04-11-2016, 11:34 AM
What sights do you have on those guns?

Default is correct -- Heinie Ledge tritium, .156 rear paired with a .230 front Trijicon HD orange front. The Heinie is easier on my stomach, even after sanding the edges on the HD rear.


We've had the old baby shit Glocks for some time now as well as many others, not sure there have been issues to speak of.

If we're talking Pmags that are gonna have to be long term items I'm buying black all day. The Glock frames don't excite me though, even long term.


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Plus, Glock has, in my experience, been terrific about replacing frames and slides, even when shot beyond normal life.


Does this mean we're officially out of stuff to talk about?

Cool kids cerakote everything. You could even get flannel if you need public camo.

We generally are out of stuff to talk about after page one of a thread on PF.

Page one, the questions get answered fully, or 98% answered.

Page two, the wise cracks start.

Page five, the butthurt starts.

BillSWPA
04-11-2016, 11:42 AM
At the last NRA Basic Pistol class I helped teach, a female student did some really nice shooting with her lavender-colored Glock 42. If it makes a lady we care about that much more likely to like, train with, and carry the gun, it is a good thing.

GJM
04-11-2016, 11:48 AM
At the last NRA Basic Pistol class I helped teach, a female student did some really nice shooting with her lavender-colored Glock 42. If it makes a lady we care about that much more likely to like, train with, and carry the gun, it is a good thing.


Just not even sure how to respond at this point. :)

rob_s
04-11-2016, 11:57 AM
I'm in the market for several Glocks since I want to go all-Gen-4. I considered messing with the colored ones, but the cost and the hunt (wanting to have them all be one color, or mismatched, or whatever) just wasn't worth it for me.

Knowing a couple of Cerakoters I'm sure I can change my mind later if I want to. Plus I gotta do that Nintendo-blaster treatment to a G34.

I might yet consider another color down the road if I went with a different caliber. I've done different colored plastic on ARs before just to make it easier to tell them apart in the safe, but that's had a zero-cost affect on the purchasing of parts in one color vs. another.

Kram
04-11-2016, 01:58 PM
In a safe full of black guns, I would like a FDE or OD 17/19. Being that colored frame guns are not available in the Blue Label program, it isn't worth the extra $.

Drang
04-11-2016, 03:26 PM
At the last NRA Basic Pistol class I helped teach, a female student did some really nice shooting with her lavender-colored Glock 42. If it makes a lady we care about that much more likely to like, train with, and carry the gun, it is a good thing.

If, OTOH, the lady we care about promises to end us if we buy her what we regard as a "pretty" "girly" gun...?

ffhounddog
04-11-2016, 03:32 PM
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My wife went fde and chrome on the gen4 22. As soon as I buy a gen4 17 in black she wants to trade frames so this can match her Khar K40 and P9.

Women and bling.

Odin Bravo One
04-11-2016, 03:46 PM
If it was just women who care more about how something looks, this topic would have never been started, let alone kept on as long as it has.

I like sexy shit too. But damn........

NETim
04-11-2016, 04:31 PM
My latest acquisition sports a steel blond frame to match my hair.

I am slow, but fashionable.

LSP552
04-11-2016, 05:25 PM
Glocks as fashion accessories.....who knew.

CS Tactical
04-11-2016, 06:07 PM
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Wondering Beard
04-11-2016, 06:10 PM
Glocks as fashion accessories.....who knew.

Why not?

If a blinged out Glock makes it to a NY fashion runway, we'll know our side has made it. ;-)

GJM
04-11-2016, 06:52 PM
I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the appeal of the non-black Glock stemmed from Delta having FDE, or a similar color Glock 22, that was unobtainium to the general public. Then Glock started releasing some colors, intermittently, and they used to bring a big premium.

As I understood it, the really cool thing was the matching magazines, or magazine base plates, that went with the Delta pistols?

HCM
04-11-2016, 09:07 PM
The funny thing is, 10 years ago when I picked up my OD green Glock 26, it was a bargain because at the time nobody wanted the baby poop green ones. Of course, as soon as Glock drop them they started to become "popular ".

Nephrology
04-11-2016, 10:11 PM
I may be remembering wrong, but I thought the appeal of the non-black Glock stemmed from Delta having FDE, or a similar color Glock 22, that was unobtainium to the general public. Then Glock started releasing some colors, intermittently, and they used to bring a big premium.

As I understood it, the really cool thing was the matching magazines, or magazine base plates, that went with the Delta pistols?

I think Delta got FDE Gen 4 G22s. Pretty sure there were "OD" Gen 3 Glocks that came out much earlier than that and weren't really olive drab but more of a cross between coyote and baby poop

matt7184
04-13-2016, 06:15 AM
The funny thing is, 10 years ago when I picked up my OD green Glock 26, it was a bargain because at the time nobody wanted the baby poop green ones. Of course, as soon as Glock drop them they started to become "popular ".

Yep. Exactly. I (and of course now regret) had a terribly hard time selling an OD Glock 19...because it wasn't black a decade ago... :rolleyes:

Bigghoss
04-13-2016, 10:42 AM
Default is correct -- Heinie Ledge tritium, .156 rear paired with a .230 front Trijicon HD orange front. The Heinie is easier on my stomach, even after sanding the edges on the HD rear.



Plus, Glock has, in my experience, been terrific about replacing frames and slides, even when shot beyond normal life.



We generally are out of stuff to talk about after page one of a thread on PF.

Page one, the questions get answered fully, or 98% answered.

Page two, the wise cracks start.

Page five, the butthurt starts.

Can we get to the butthurt early? I have stuff to do.

Peally
04-13-2016, 10:46 AM
Can we get to the butthurt early? I have stuff to do.

Glocks suck. Something something grip angle.

Nephrology
04-13-2016, 10:47 AM
Glocks suck. Something something grip angle.

Came for the wise cracks, staying for the butthurt.

Bigghoss
04-13-2016, 10:54 AM
Glocks suck. Something something grip angle.

Something something police departments, butthurt response, asking if you even operate.

spinmove_
04-13-2016, 11:28 AM
Something something police departments, butthurt response, asking if you even operate.

But Glocks are uncomfortable and they feel like you're holding a 2x4 and they're ugly and they're generic and have no soul and its not Made in 'Murica and it doesn't have a safety so you'll get killed in the streets and it doesn't have a hammer and the magazines aren't metal and they just shoot left.

Did I miss anything?

Drang
04-13-2016, 11:33 AM
But Glocks are uncomfortable and they feel like you're holding a 2x4 and they're ugly and they're generic and have no soul and its not Made in 'Murica and it doesn't have a safety so you'll get killed in the streets and it doesn't have a hammer and the magazines aren't metal and they just shoot left.

Did I miss anything?
Pulling the trigger to disassemble is unsafe.

Bigghoss
04-13-2016, 11:49 AM
But Glocks are uncomfortable and they feel like you're holding a 2x4 and they're ugly and they're generic and have no soul and its not Made in 'Murica and it doesn't have a safety so you'll get killed in the streets and it doesn't have a hammer and the magazines aren't metal and they just shoot left.

Did I miss anything?


Pulling the trigger to disassemble is unsafe.

You guys don't know what you're talking about. Glock is the most reliable gun evar. I've had mine for 50 years and have 12 flawless round through it, never had a jam. It's perfect.

spinmove_
04-13-2016, 11:56 AM
Pulling the trigger to disassemble is unsafe.

Oh yeah, and it lacks double strike capability.

psalms144.1
04-13-2016, 12:54 PM
And (wait for it!) LIMP WRISTING.

/end thread

Seriously, I like the OD frames just because I like them. No advantage/disadvantage I can think of. They're not available on Blue Label sales, so, I don't own any.