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Mr_White
04-08-2016, 09:08 AM
Week 159: Bill-Zambique

Results may be posted until May 8th, 2016.

Designed by: backtrail540
Range: 7 yards
Target: USPSA Metric or similar, see below
Start Position: Holstered and/or ready, see below
Rounds Fired: 18

backtrail540 has generously contributed his Bill-Zambique for use as a Drill of the Week, inspired by the recent discussions of different body-to-head transition ideas. Thank you backtrail540! Let's use this as a shooting exercise to practice cold, 100% hits.

The target needs to have a larger body zone - lower A-zone, 8" circle, 8-1/2x11" paper, etc. - and a smaller CNS zone in the head - 2" circle, 3x5", upper A-zone, etc.

This Drill of the Week is intended to be shot cold. At the start signal, draw and shoot three shots to the larger body target, then transition and shoot three shots to the smaller CNS target in the head. Record your time and hits. Repeat twice, for a total of three attempts. If your range doesn't allow drawing from the holster, start in a ready position instead.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Gun and targets used
Holster and concealment (optional), or ready position start
Total time to get all 18 hits
Observations: anything you noticed

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

Clobbersaurus
04-08-2016, 09:36 PM
Looks like a fun and challenging drill!

JAD
04-08-2016, 10:51 PM
You don't mention scoring -- pass / fail I presume?

JAD
04-09-2016, 12:28 PM
P30v1; fam transtar
Milt sparks ex-rso, jacket
20.33 scored as a FAST.
I suck. I should have shot make-ups

ssb
04-09-2016, 12:56 PM
Pistol-Training target (FBI Q, 8" circle + 3x5" card)
G26L w/ 10-round magazine inserted, Raven Eidolon w/ single soft loop
Concealed AIWB, closed button-down shirt

Run 1: 4.96s -0B -0H
Run 2: 4.82s -0B -0H
Run 3: 4.85s -0B -1H

14.63s raw, 16.63s with 2s penalty for the dropped headshot.

Dropped the first headshot slightly low on the third run. Figured this would be a good way to work out my "new" pistol. Draw is a tad slower to the body (~1.45s vs ~1.35s) with the 26L than the 19, but otherwise very manageable. Split times didn't seem to suffer (low .2s on the body).

ssb
04-09-2016, 02:02 PM
Pistol-Training target (FBI Q, 8" circle + 3x5" card)
G26L w/ 10-round magazine inserted, Raven Eidolon w/ single soft loop
Concealed AIWB, closed button-down shirt

Run 1: 4.96s -0B -0H
Run 2: 4.82s -0B -0H
Run 3: 4.85s -0B -1H

14.63s raw, 16.63s with 2s penalty for the dropped headshot.

Dropped the first headshot slightly low on the third run. Figured this would be a good way to work out my "new" pistol. Draw is a tad slower to the body (~1.45s vs ~1.35s) with the 26L than the 19, but otherwise very manageable. Split times didn't seem to suffer (low .2s on the body).

I should probably note now that I'm sometimes not very good at following directions, and also that I fired six rounds into each body target.

MVS
04-09-2016, 03:40 PM
G19 w/RMR IPSC target
Fricke AIWB Pullover concealment
12.78 total time

backtrail540
04-11-2016, 05:35 PM
Glock 17 rtf2 under a polo in a Dark Star Gear aiwb
paper plate, 3x5 card

Run 1 - 4.32 1.91, .35, .33, .6, .62, .51 -1h

Run 2 - 3.85 1.81, .33, .32, .46, .5, .43 -1h

Run 3 - 3.62 1.53, .29, .26, .5, .57, .47 clean

11.79 raw time
Fail
15.79 adjusted for FAST scoring


I shot fairly conservatively at first and ended up dropping a head shot about a 1/2" low on the first two runs. It wasn't a particularly good day shooting for me, and it didn't really improve but this was cold as intended above.

Column of Lead
04-13-2016, 10:07 PM
G34, AIWB JMCustom, pull over concealment, hands at side. Standard IPSC target.

6.87: -1H
6.45: clean
6.86: -2H

20.18 Total.
Failed due to 15/18 hits.

Observations: All shots were center but slightly high. The 3 misses were just a bit too high on lower A-Zone. Time for me to work on some sight alignment practice!

Mr_White
04-14-2016, 04:57 PM
Sorry it has taken me so long to get back in here and clarify scoring. This is the part of the year where I am very spotty on forum participation, and some threads I get literally months behind on...

backtrail540's drill as he wrote it did not specify a scoring system. Because it was a pretty simple drill, I chose for the DotW version to emphasize 100% hits cold as the aspect of the drill that would be challenging. So the intention was that one shoot cold, 100% hits (don't especially care how long that takes), or there would be no score to post. This prevents people like me from trying something really hard a whole bunch of times until we succeed (like in that other DotW that required three successful consecutive attempts, but it didn't have to be cold - then I want to work on shooting that 3/4" spot under two seconds until I manage to do it three times consecutively, even though I was most commonly ~2/3 on it...)

But I do think that the most important part of the Drills of the Week, is that people participate! So I don't personally have any problem with people altering or misinterpreting a drill if that enables them to participate instead of sitting out.

zml342
04-15-2016, 01:13 PM
M&P Shield, AIWB, Dark Star Gear casual carry, untucked polo, 8.5x11 sheet of paper and 3.5x11 card

1. 5.59 (-2H)
2. 5.53 (-3H)
3. 5.52 (-1B)

Total = 16.56 (27.56)

This was truly shot cold and the first time in a year since I shot my shield. Apparently I need a lot more practice with it.

G19, JMCK AIWB, untucked polo, 8.5x11 paper and 3.5x5 card

1. 4.49
2. 4.11 (-1H)
3. 4.03

Total = 12.63 (14.63)

This wasn't shot cold as I had just finished practicing with the Shield first, but I still wanted to compare results.

ETA: I didn't see OAK's post until I got home and had already interpreted how to score it.

Range1
04-15-2016, 07:56 PM
Completed on April 15, 2016
Glock 22 with 9mm conversion.
Target: Upper A and B zones and Lower A zone of USPSA metric
Safariland ALS holster and vest
Run 1: 5.70
Run 2: 4.88
Run 3: 5.29
Total time: 15.87

Was ran cold as first drill of the day.

Clobbersaurus
04-17-2016, 09:52 AM
Beretta Elite II, OWB

I ran this cold and have not shot in two weeks. I used an 8" circle for the body and a reduced A zone for the CNS...

1) 4.32 -1H = FAIL
2) 3.82 -1B = FAIL
3) 3.92 - 1H = FAIL

Total Fail: 12.06

Target at the end:
http://i.imgur.com/Cv5QtMil.jpg

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjqVsGoqqXI

That Guy
04-17-2016, 10:05 AM
I did this cold, one week since last firing a handgun. I used an IDPA target with a 3" x 5" post-it note as the target zone in the head. (The -0 was obviously the target in the body.)

The results were not flattering:

5.20 -2h
6.84 -1h
6.45

(Misses were very close to the target zone, but a miss is a miss.)

Total score: failure

JHC
04-17-2016, 12:59 PM
This is a great drill!

This was shot cold from concealment under an open jacket from IWB. Gun is a Gen 3 G19 with a KKM barrel and compensator. Fun thing btw.

All three runs were under 4 sec in the high 3's. But alas, of the 18 rounds - there were two C's on the body and 2 misses of the 3x5. Ergo FAIL.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/78036189@N07/25881135694/in/dateposted-public/

jiminycricket
04-22-2016, 08:06 PM
G19 Gen4 IWB at 3:30 in a Blade-Tech Phantom under a buttoned up shirt.

Targets were the top half of the lower a-zone and the upper a-zone of a USPSA

All my misses were the head shots. My first attempt, one miss sailed clear over the top of the head during the transition. Instead of making a hard stop and shooting the last two rounds, I walked my front sight down resulting in the second miss just too high in the b-zone. The last two strings I'm pretty sure I missed the first shots to the upper a-zone during the transitions. I kept rushing to get to the head. I need to learn to control that tendency lol. Overall I failed because none of the strings I shot clean. I worried too much about picking up my time as I proceeded from first shot to last. My draw to first shot time on all of the strings were achingly slow. For one I was very reserved about the body shots, but I also realized the shirt I was wearing was not conducive to gaming.

3.54sec with -2H
3.53sec with -1H
3.51sec with -1H

10.58sec total with -4H

I like this drill. I feel it gives you a bit more worthwhile practice than the standard Mozambique and I plan to alternate the order from "body to head" to "head to body"

EricM
05-03-2016, 12:04 AM
Shot extra cold...first shots of the day, and I could see my breath. Gen 4 G17 from Blade-Tech OWB, no concealment, USPSA metric target.

First run: 4.23 (-1B, -2H), 4.44, 4.29 (-1H) = 12.96 (-1B, -3H) - FAIL

I suspect the lower hit on the upper A for the third string is a double, I didn't call a miss while shooting and the hole is larger though not elongated, but I'm not going to give myself the benefit of the doubt as it was nearly out anyway. Gave me a good excuse to run it a second time though.

http://icedesigns.com/echo0603/pf/050216/bz1.jpg

Second run: 4.8, 4.22 (-1H), 4.52 (-1H) = 13.54 (-2H) - FAIL

http://icedesigns.com/echo0603/pf/050216/bz2.jpg

If it was a USPSA stage and that one shot was a double, 31A 4B 1C for these two runs combined might not be all that bad, but it was clearly stated that this drill was to be shot for 100% hits, so being 5 or 6 shots down at 7 yards is a major fail. Makes me wonder, would I have shot this differently if the same size targets were drawn on a sheet of blank paper? Or if the smaller target was a 4"x2" object floating in space? (Doesn't excuse the performance, just makes me wonder about how the brain may process different targets.)

Other thoughts: My draw was glacially slow...first time drawing from an OWB holster in months (live or dry) and I was very deliberate about getting a proper grip.

BehindBlueI's
05-06-2016, 04:07 PM
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb183/Docwagon1776/Ruger/20160506_130930_zpsrnusrw0l.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb183/Docwagon1776/Ruger/20160506_114613_zpsfw12qnie.jpg

Shot cold.

1st run I pushed low and missed two head shots
2nd run was clean
3rd run I got on the trigger a LITTLE early and pushed a shot high for the head and for the body.
Times are in the first picture.

Mickey
05-08-2016, 09:30 PM
Glock 34 USPSA metric
JMCK AIWB concealed under T-Shirt

5.19 Clean
6.01 -2 1 body 1 head
5.82 Clean
Total time 17.02 Fail

Draws were pretty slow, well at least the sight acquisition was slow. It seamed like the gun was hovering out there forever before the sights were aligned and I pressed the trigger. I think I need to work on the press out from AWIB, that should give me a little extra time to get locked onto the front sight.