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jnc36rcpd
03-26-2016, 12:11 AM
We just banned EOTech sights and no one (including the rifle instructors) coulkd manage to make hits with my Aimpoint PRO so the shotgun is my only long gun for at least the next month. Any thoughts on a rig for carrying multiple shotgun rounds? I could switch the rifle magazines on my plate carrier for shotgun rounds, but I usually just grab my BFG bandoleer when I deploy the rifle. Thanks and be safe.

HCM
03-26-2016, 02:44 AM
We just banned EOTech sights and no one (including the rifle instructors) coulkd manage to make hits with my Aimpoint PRO so the shotgun is my only long gun for at least the next month. Any thoughts on a rig for carrying multiple shotgun rounds? I could switch the rifle magazines on my plate carrier for shotgun rounds, but I usually just grab my BFG bandoleer when I deploy the rifle. Thanks and be safe.

Velcro shot gun cards fit in your m4 pouches.

http://www.skdtac.com/Esstac-Shotgun-Card-p/ess.106.htm

Alternatively dumping a 25 round box of shells into a maxpedition roily poly dump pouch works surprisingly well.


Honestly, I'm more interested in the Aimpoint pro situation and why they wouldn't just let you qual with iron sights ?

KeeFus
03-26-2016, 07:02 AM
Tha shotgun cards have been on my radar forma few months. Allegedly Im getting an AR in July so Im holding off.

Also interested in the Aimpoint PRO issue...we are also getting rid of the EOTECH and replacing them with the PROs...although I'm going to be using a Trijicon Accupower because of an astigmatism.

GJM
03-26-2016, 08:12 AM
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/tactical-apparel/gear/12-ga-micro-rig-prod45031.aspx

SOE micro rig


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Cookie Monster
03-26-2016, 08:44 AM
16 round OSOE shotgun cards would fit into your bandoleer.

jnc36rcpd
03-26-2016, 09:03 AM
Thanks for the responses, guys. I've been using the Esstac shotgun cards for sometime. Adding a couple more and carrying them in my rifle pouches would be a simple solution. That said, the SOE micro rig looks viable as well.

Regarding the Aimpoint/iron sights issue: Like many agencies, we have limited use of range facilities. With the ban on EOTech sights instituted just before spring qualification/training started, my only "zeroing" of the Aimpoint or irons on a new rifle occurred the night before qualification on a twenty-five yard indoor range. Given time, I'm sure the rifle instructors and I would have unscrewed the issue. Unfortunately, we had two sifts who we needed to get through duty and off-duty daylight and low light courses, shotgun, rifle, classroom, and drills. I wouldn't hesitate purchasing a PRO based on my post here.

pablo
03-26-2016, 10:35 AM
I usually have two five round cards on the gun, one on the reciver and one on the stock. If I deploy the shotgun, I usually tear the one of the stock and stick it in my back pocket. I picked up a Chalk bag and an extra keeper/key clip for a grab and go option. I took the belt off the chalk bag, put a big key ring on it, and it takes all of two second to clip on my belt. As an added bonus i can use the key clip for my gas mask carrier or a carbiner with flex cuffs.

My shotgun "active shooter" rig is three AR mag chest harness, 3 seven round cards, IFAK with just a single strap and carry it like a murse. I never use it, the only time it sees the light of day is going from my locker to trunk of the car.

If you're OCD 7 round cards could drive you bat shit crazy

Crusader8207
03-26-2016, 01:26 PM
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/tactical-apparel/gear/12-ga-micro-rig-prod45031.aspx

SOE micro rig


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I placed an order for one of those with SOE back in Nov of 2014. Still hasn't shipped. I spoke with them and they said they don't have enough orders to do a run. So if you do order one, expect a long delay. If I didn't get a huge discount I would ask for a refund.

nycnoob
03-26-2016, 01:43 PM
\Any thoughts on a rig for carrying multiple shotgun rounds?

http://www.aridusindustries.com/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_6e5zJ1gcg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=ztsHEiqtamo

Adam Roth is a member here and is very responsive to questions. (I wish he had called it "the Roth device").
I now own several but am still getting the shotguns set up for them.


This is the thread where he announced the product and several prominent PF members endorsed his product after beta testing it"

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?15252-ARID-Products-Quick-Detach-Carrier-(Q-DC)

HCM
03-26-2016, 03:41 PM
http://www.aridusindustries.com/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_6e5zJ1gcg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=ztsHEiqtamo

Adam Roth is a member here and is very responsive to questions. (I wish he had called it "the Roth device").
I now own several but am still getting the shotguns set up for them.


This is the thread where he announced the product and several prominent PF members endorsed his product after beta testing it"

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?15252-ARID-Products-Quick-Detach-Carrier-(Q-DC)

How do they fit in M-4 pouches ?

nycnoob
03-26-2016, 04:53 PM
How do they fit in M-4 pouches ?

by design:

6745

stinx
03-26-2016, 05:02 PM
As far as the Aimpoint Pros: My agency also just took 20 Eotechs out of service. We replaced them with Aimpoint Pros. Ours are zeroed at 50 yards. With duty ammo ours are shooting quarter sized groups for 5 rounds

ST911
03-26-2016, 05:19 PM
We just banned EOTech sights and no one (including the rifle instructors) coulkd manage to make hits with my Aimpoint PRO so the shotgun is my only long gun for at least the next month.

Say more?

pablo
03-26-2016, 06:32 PM
About a year ago SOCOM put out message about Eotechs losing zeros or shifting at extreme temperature ranges, it's finally making the rounds through a lot of LE agencies and Eotechs are getting banned by quite a few folks. It's probably a good thing, but it's kind of like Serpa holsters, despite years of evidence that there is a serious flaw, nothing happens until it turns into a really big deal and some high speed dudes say it's a problem.

HCM
03-26-2016, 06:39 PM
About a year ago SOCOM put out message about Eotechs losing zeros or shifting at extreme temperature ranges, it's finally making the rounds through a lot of LE agencies and Eotechs are getting banned by quite a few folks. It's probably a good thing, but it's kind of like Serpa holsters, despite years of evidence that there is a serious flaw, nothing happens until it turns into a really big deal and some high speed dudes say it's a problem.

Spot on (we finally ditched EO's for Aimpoint H-1's) but I think he was asking about the issue with the Aimpoint PRO.

pablo
03-26-2016, 08:07 PM
Spot on (we finally ditched EO's for Aimpoint H-1's) but I think he was asking about the issue with the Aimpoint PRO.

Reading comprehension is not one my fortes.

jnc36rcpd
03-26-2016, 09:03 PM
I am hopeful the Aimpoint PRO problem was a software problem amongst the rifle instructors and myself rather than an issue with the optic. If we didn't have two shifts waiting for the day to continue, I believe we would have been able to zero the optic (or I could have qualified with irons). As it is, with range scheduling, the shotgun will be my only authorized long gun for at least the next month when we have the range again.

Lon
03-26-2016, 09:24 PM
..... As it is, with range scheduling, the shotgun will be my only authorized long gun for at least the next month when we have the range again.

That sucks. I forget sometimes how fortunate I am to have a PD range I can use any day of the year except for Sundays. And range staff that can qualify me just about any of those days as well.

Lomshek
03-27-2016, 12:08 AM
I am hopeful the Aimpoint PRO problem was a software problem amongst the rifle instructors and myself rather than an issue with the optic. If we didn't have two shifts waiting for the day to continue, I believe we would have been able to zero the optic (or I could have qualified with irons). As it is, with range scheduling, the shotgun will be my only authorized long gun for at least the next month when we have the range again.

Just in case you don't know this already...If the rifle was previously fine and the only that changed was the optic then either the mount, optic or trigger nut ( ;) )needs fixed but you probably have that figured out.

If 25 yards is the only range you have access to and you want a 50 yard zero then adjust the optic for your POI to be 1 1/4" below your POA.

If a 100 yard zero is your goal then set the POI for 1 3/4" below POA at 25 yards.

That'll be close enough for any qualification I could imagine you'd be doing unless you're going past 300 yards until you have time to refine it at full distance.

SpyderMan2k4
03-27-2016, 06:34 AM
How do they fit in M-4 pouches ?
So far they seem to fit in most single and double AR mag pouches. People have had good success using taco pouches and BFG Ten Speed pouches. I've used Tactical Tailor fight light double pouches a lot, and I know they fit in the SOE micro and cop rig pouches. The only pouch I've seen (aside from injection molded and kydex, obviously) that they don't fit in is US Grunt Gear ( there's probably more, but the Q-DC is still new so data is limited).

Chuck Whitlock
04-01-2016, 11:59 AM
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/tactical-apparel/gear/12-ga-micro-rig-prod45031.aspx

SOE micro rig


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We used the micro rig at my previous agency. I didn't know that Brownell's was carrying them.


http://www.aridusindustries.com/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_6e5zJ1gcg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=ztsHEiqtamo

Adam Roth is a member here and is very responsive to questions. (I wish he had called it "the Roth device").
I now own several but am still getting the shotguns set up for them.


This is the thread where he announced the product and several prominent PF members endorsed his product after beta testing it"

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?15252-ARID-Products-Quick-Detach-Carrier-(Q-DC)

If you want something that mounts to the gun, I'd go with this. If not, the SOE.