View Full Version : It is legendary in China---Mauser Military Pistol
mj888844
03-22-2016, 04:14 AM
Its official name is the Mauser Military Pistol. In the United States, because the shape of the grip, commonly known as a broom handle (Broomhandle), also known as the Chinese translation of Hezi Bao (Box Cannon) is. When Box Cannon has just successfully developed a semi-automatic pistol has just started, the whole world does not have any military use of a semi-automatic pistol as the standard weapon. German Mauser know that to be successful, we must obtain a power of military contracts, so he named Box Cannon Mauser pistol 1896 military style, hoping to get a military contract. But it did not, until 1939 Mauser plant shutdown Box Cannon far, no country in the world using the Box Cannon as the military standard weapons. The Box Cannon production downturn dragged four decades, Mauser factory production is estimated about one million of a wide range of Box Cannon. While in other countries the number of counterfeit production is several times that. National armed forces do not use Box Cannon gun was not because of poor quality, but because
1. The gun price is too high,
2. When the pistol is equipped European army size is too large,
3. As a submachine gun muzzle jump and difficult to control,
4. Before the fully automatic firing shall wooden gun cartridge combination to the body as the butt of the gun to control the muzzle jump, complex operation, carry more difficult.
It is neither fish nor fowl, a dilemma.
But Box Cannon true in China has been widely welcomed, on the 20th Century Chinese warlord factions urgent need to combat weapons, at a time when Japan controlled the western ban arms exports to China, but as a pistol Box Cannon is not in this column Therefore Mauser choice for armed factions.
The most interesting is that Chinese people came up with a very simple way, not only solved the problem on the muzzle jump, but it will be converted to fully automatic rapid-fire bursts of advantages - the right hand grip gunmen Mauser pistol, rapid fire gear to pull the bolt , palms up his gun, toward the left front, pull the trigger, the muzzle jump action so Mauser fire from gunmen left front to right front; palms down his gun from right to left in front of the fire front; when the left hand gun completely opposite!
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TiroFijo
03-22-2016, 06:39 AM
I would take those stories of running this pistol on full auto (effectively) with a large dose of salt...
The mauser pistol was a mechanical wonder for its time, all the main internal parts are serial numbered and fit perfectly, but: it is too big and cumbersome as a pistol, reloading is slow, recoil is funky due to high bore axis, reassembly is very tricky, and the barrel is integral with the action.
LittleLebowski
03-22-2016, 07:29 AM
I am enjoying your contributions, thank you mj888844. I will take you out shooting if you ever make it out to my part of the U.S. and I'm sure others on this forum would as well.
Great Britain future Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, carried a "box cannon" in 1898 at the Battle of Omdurman in the Sudan.
Churchill participated in the charge of the 21st Lancers during the battle, and shot several of the "Dervish" soldiers with his pistol. It apparently worked very well.
TiroFijo
03-22-2016, 11:56 AM
Great Britain future Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, carried a "box cannon" in 1898 at the Battle of Omdurman in the Sudan.
Churchill participated in the charge of the 21st Lancers during the battle, and shot several of the "Dervish" soldiers with his pistol. It apparently worked very well.
Apparently good 'ol Winston used soft point bullets in Omdurmán, how unsporty... :D
Apparently good 'ol Winston used soft point bullets in Omdurmán, how unsporty... :D
He did. And he had to surreptitiously ditch a clip (not a mag--a clip) of perfectly good soft points when he was taken prisoner by the Boers a few years later. My guess is that soft points worked decently with the Mauser, given the velocity of the bullet.
Drang
03-22-2016, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW2p9gkmHxM
Ian takes a Schnellfeuer full auto at about the 3:50 mark.
Chuck Haggard
03-22-2016, 07:08 PM
Great Britain future Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, carried a "box cannon" in 1898 at the Battle of Omdurman in the Sudan.
Churchill participated in the charge of the 21st Lancers during the battle, and shot several of the "Dervish" soldiers with his pistol. It apparently worked very well.
Fairbairn noted in 'Shooting To Live With The One Hand Gun' that the Mauser was feared by his troops due to the propensity of the little bullets to tear people up rather badly if bone was hit, even with FMJ ammo.
Bigghoss
03-23-2016, 04:51 AM
If you get the chance you might find Forgotten Weapons on youtube interesting. They have videos of a few different Mauser pistol variants. I think he even did a Chinese model chambered for the .45acp as both the pistol and that cartridge were popular in China way back when.
Hambo
03-23-2016, 06:46 AM
I would take those stories of running this pistol on full auto (effectively) with a large dose of salt...
The mauser pistol was a mechanical wonder for its time, all the main internal parts are serial numbered and fit perfectly, but: it is too big and cumbersome as a pistol, reloading is slow, recoil is funky due to high bore axis, reassembly is very tricky, and the barrel is integral with the action.
Clint Eastwood ran one like a boss in Joe Kidd. That's all the endorsement I need.
Tamara
03-23-2016, 07:16 AM
I miss my 1930s Commercial C96. :( Most of the rest have been "easy come, easy go", but it's the only firearm I really consistently regret getting rid of.
If you get the chance you might find Forgotten Weapons on youtube interesting. They have videos of a few different Mauser pistol variants. I think he even did a Chinese model chambered for the .45acp as both the pistol and that cartridge were popular in China way back when.
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
When I'm there I use Bing.
I mean, Bing, man...
Matt O
03-23-2016, 07:32 AM
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
When I'm there I use Bing.
I mean, Bing, man...
And in addition the internet speed for any websites outside of the country is atrociously slow due to the great firewall.
By contrast, when you pop over the border to the Kong show, you're back to proper internet speed and access again.
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Matt O
03-23-2016, 07:35 AM
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
When I'm there I use Bing.
I mean, Bing, man...
Oh and I forgot to comment on the irony of using a search engine that when pronounced phonetically in China basically means disease or fault/defect. For a company that supposedly prioritized the China market, that was a rather large oversight.
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Bigghoss
03-23-2016, 09:31 AM
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
When I'm there I use Bing.
I mean, Bing, man...
I wasn't sure what got through over there. I've never been. Alternatively Forgotten Weapons is also on Full30.com.
Drang
03-23-2016, 01:00 PM
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
Plus, when my nephew sent my sister a link to an article about Chinese child labor or something, they blocked everything for a month.
Trooper224
03-23-2016, 04:50 PM
Regardless of it's idiosyncrasies, or maybe because of them, there are few pistols cooler than the C96. Besides, Han Solo used one, so there you go.
Drang
03-23-2016, 07:58 PM
Han Solo used one, so there you go.
Be like Han! (https://danielmiessler.com/blog/be-like-han/)
mj888844
03-23-2016, 10:22 PM
China blocks Youtube, Facebook, and Gmail. And google anything.
When I'm there I use Bing.
I mean, Bing, man...
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Yes. But I have VPN. So I can successfully access YOUTUBE FACEBOOK etc.
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Yes. But I have VPN. So I can successfully access YOUTUBE FACEBOOK etc.
Fight the power! Last time was over I tried a few VPN and had no luck. Stay safe!
Sero Sed Serio
03-24-2016, 12:11 AM
I am enjoying your contributions, thank you mj888844. I will take you out shooting if you ever make it out to my part of the U.S. and I'm sure others on this forum would as well.
I am enjoying your posts, as well, and would be happy to take you shooting if you are ever in my part of the United States.
I also enjoy your posts. You might find this interesting. There is a website called The Firearm Blog. They have many posts from a. Nigerian Named Y Man who is interested in guns and shooting shooting but guns and shooting are very restricted in his country. So Y man goes shooting in the U.S. when he visits for business.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/author/y-man/
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