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03-15-2016, 06:54 AM
ToddG passed away today. (https://pistol-forum.com/announcement.php?a=11) We can remember him here. I'm not quite ready to talk about it publicly yet.

Todd and I with our matching rebuilt elbows.

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03-15-2016, 06:55 AM
I will miss him, greatly.

Whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. (Rom 14:8)

03-15-2016, 06:57 AM
RIP friend.

David S.
03-15-2016, 07:04 AM
Godspeed brother! My thoughts and prayers for those he left behind.

03-15-2016, 07:05 AM
RIP. You will be missed.

03-15-2016, 07:09 AM
You fought it to the end, Todd. You were a fighter!

I only had one class with you and I was thoroughly humbled. I learned much though. Thank you.

RIP. Thoughts and prayers go out to his friends and family.

Chuck Haggard
03-15-2016, 07:15 AM
I'm glad to have met him, I never got to take one of his classes, sadly, but he did quite a bit for me, none of which I ever got to repay.

RIP brother

Mr Pink
03-15-2016, 07:20 AM
Thank you for your impact on the community. In the end, you fought well, now Rest in Peace brother!

03-15-2016, 07:21 AM
RIP buddy. Gonna' miss all the rich discussion we had.

Matt O
03-15-2016, 07:22 AM
This is incredibly sad news. My thoughts and prayers are also with his family.

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03-15-2016, 07:24 AM
Rest in Peace and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family.

03-15-2016, 07:25 AM
Very sorry to hear about his passing.

RIP Todd. Sad to have never met him, however, his impact on my shooting safety, knowledge and awareness has been profound.

Prayers and sympathies to his family.

03-15-2016, 07:27 AM
RIP and my condolences to his friends & family.

I remember going out to eat with him and a few members here after completing his class talking about guns, training, life, etc. He genuinely cared about his students and had a great sense of humor.

03-15-2016, 07:33 AM
My condolences to so many on this board who were close to him. It's got to hurt bad.

Even via the distance of the virtual relationship I grew attached to him. I really appreciated his application of his logic to his arguments. I will miss his contributions greatly.


03-15-2016, 07:35 AM

I never got to meet you. I discovered P-T/P-F after you stopped teaching and shortly before you stopped posting.

But you've changed my life in some pretty massive ways...

I fear I owe you a debt I can never repay...but I'll do my best to find my own ways to do so in your absence.

...now rock on and go school some fools in the afterlife. I'll seek you out when I get there. I trust I'll find you smiling, shaking your head, watching some macho man fail to get a FAST coin after their 1,000,000,000th attempt.

03-15-2016, 07:37 AM
Very sorry to hear this news. My heart goes out to Todd's family and all those who knew him well. RIP.

03-15-2016, 07:39 AM
This is one guy I wanted to take a class from and never got the chance to. Even with the occasional comment in my training journal, I enjoyed his mentorship and guidance. I've read about him and his tests numerous times, just finishing a 24 page thread last night on his press out technique. I never even knew him like some of you do and I sense a void has been created. Hear and his family are in my thoughts and prayers.

03-15-2016, 07:40 AM
Damn. Just damn. Going to the range today and he will be on my mind. Never met him but through PMs we had a couple discussions and I learned from him.

RIP ToddG!

03-15-2016, 07:43 AM
Todd's analytical and love to debate personality, combined with his methods (training journal, DOW, FAST), his interest in performance driven product development (like AIWB holsters), and changing internet practices and technology (forums like PF), caused him to have an enormous impact on performance oriented defensive shooting.

03-15-2016, 07:46 AM
Thank you for all the inspiration Todd. Godspeed and fair waters.

03-15-2016, 07:48 AM
RIP Todd. I was looking forward to training with you again. You will be missed.

03-15-2016, 07:50 AM
RIP our thoughts and prayers are with your loved ones through this time.

03-15-2016, 07:57 AM
Rest easy Todd. I never got to meet you in person but you helped me become a better shooter in many ways and I will forever be grateful. My condolences to your wife, family, and the dog that you loved dearly.

Jay Cunningham
03-15-2016, 08:01 AM
Todd and I shared some fun scheming together!

I hosted him three times, and was a student in two of those classes. He inspired me to become an instructor and gave me a lot of very valuable advice along the way. He was gracious enough to ask me to be staff on this forum when it first started.

Goodbye Todd. I'm going to miss you. Every time I stand beside a student's gun with my nose a half inch away from it, I'm going to think of you.

03-15-2016, 08:02 AM
Thanks for everything, Todd.

Especially shooting know-how and grammar/spelling jabs.

03-15-2016, 08:08 AM
Like many of us here on the forum, I never got the chance to meet Todd but I'm grateful for his contributions to the shooting community. I would like to think that some of what I learn here gets passed along to those I teach both in and outside of law enforcement.

Thank you Todd.

03-15-2016, 08:09 AM
Prayers for Todd's family and friends.

03-15-2016, 08:09 AM
From 2010: http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2010/04/

(credit to Massad Ayoob who is a forum member here)

Todd Green winning the Polite Society match. Arrow points to spent casing from his HK .45 auto. Note that muzzle is still on target: excellent control.


03-15-2016, 08:11 AM
Very sad and shocking news to receive this morning. Never got to meet Todd or take one of his classes, had hoped to be able to do so though. RIP Todd. My condolences to his friends and family.

03-15-2016, 08:14 AM
I'm at a loss for words. I remember shooting my first KSTG and how Todd kept giving me helpful pointers to make me a better shooter. He'll be deeply missed.

03-15-2016, 08:15 AM

03-15-2016, 08:17 AM
Farewell, you fought a good fight and will be remembered.

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03-15-2016, 08:18 AM
I never met ToddG, but he has had an incalculable influence on my shooting and, more importantly, how I think about my shooting. I especially was touched by how ToddG argued his positions without diminishing the opinions of others.

My condolences to his friends and family.

03-15-2016, 08:28 AM
I never met ToddG, but he has had an incalculable influence on my shooting and, more importantly, how I think about my shooting. I especially was touched by how ToddG argued his positions without diminishing the opinions of others.

This. A thousand times this. Todd was a calm island of rationality in a storm of trainers who mistake ego for skill. I also never took one of his classes, but that doesn't mean I didn't learn from him. He will be sorely missed.

03-15-2016, 08:28 AM
RIP Todd.......honored to have been part of your inaugural Aim Fast Hit Fast class


Kevin B.
03-15-2016, 08:28 AM
Sad news. My condolences to his family.

03-15-2016, 08:30 AM
So sad. I had hoped he would beat the disease.

03-15-2016, 08:30 AM
I had the opportunity to train with Todd twice. He did more to improve my pure shooting preformance than anyone else. For that I thank him.

I'll also thank him for his efforts against cancer such as Rampage For The Cure and against prostate cancer.

My prayers go out to his wife, family, and friends.

Farewell Todd.

03-15-2016, 08:33 AM
My condolences to Todds family, friends and the extended community he led here.

Godspeed TLG...

Randy Harris
03-15-2016, 08:34 AM
RIP Todd. Thanks for your contributions to the industry and all the things you taught others either through classes or through the site here. Prayers out for the family and friends.

03-15-2016, 08:36 AM
Sorry to hear :(

03-15-2016, 08:36 AM
I never met ToddG, but he has had an incalculable influence on my shooting and, more importantly, how I think about my shooting. I especially was touched by how ToddG argued his positions without diminishing the opinions of others.

My condolences to his friends and family.

This says what I feel better than I can say it.

03-15-2016, 08:39 AM
Only knew Todd through his posts here. Learned a lot and will continue to learn from those. I know he had many friends here, some very close. While I did not know Todd personally I know what it is like to loose family and friends so be assured my thoughts and heart goes out to you all.

Now I think I will take his advice and head to the range. Will shoot a F.A.S.T. in his honor.

03-15-2016, 08:40 AM
Goodbye my friend.

You were the single most helpful person in the industry to me.
I am glad to have known you, and will ever hold you in the highest regard.

May you be at peace.

03-15-2016, 08:43 AM
RIP Todd. I never got to meet him but always enjoyed reading what he posted. He will be missed.

03-15-2016, 08:44 AM
Very sad news. Thoughts and prayers for his close friends and family. I never had the opportunity to take a class from him but learned a lot from his online presence. Always appreciated his frank and open discussions about a variety of topics. Rest in peace.

03-15-2016, 08:45 AM
RIP, Todd, and condolences to his family and those here who knew him as a friend.
I had the pleasure of training with him back in 2011, and am thankful for the solid foundation he provided.
He kept us all up until midnight in his room, just BS'ing about guns, shooting, and telling stories about his time in the industry. I remember thinking that he was truly a teacher, not just an instructor.
You will be missed, TLG.

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03-15-2016, 08:49 AM

I'll miss you, TLG.

I'm opposed, both in concept, and in practice, to you being gone.

03-15-2016, 08:49 AM
I am proud to have been able to call you a friend. You will be missed and so many will not even know what a loss this is to the community.

Till Valhalla brother. You fought the beast for over 10 years.

Cancer Sucks!

03-15-2016, 08:55 AM
Most of the speakers and instructors at the Rangemaster Conference talked about the huge influence that Todd Green has had on the concealed carry industry. I will remember his passion and his excitement about training with a pistol, but also his friendliness and willingness to help.
Godspeed to a pistol master and a good man.

03-15-2016, 08:55 AM
Todd may you have rest and know the embrace of our sweet Creator. May your family know Gods peace and comfort through this difficult time.

03-15-2016, 08:56 AM
Thoughts and condolences to his family and friends.

03-15-2016, 08:59 AM
Good bye, dude. Yours was as loud and resilient "f... you" to death as I've ever heard anyone say that. Many would've folded two years ago. I am honored to have known you.

03-15-2016, 09:08 AM
Thoughts and prayers go out to Todd's family and friends.

I owe him a debt of gratitude in how he has helped shape my development as a new shooter through P-T and P-F, though his impact on others is clearly much greater than simply that of a good shooting instructor. I only wish I could have thanked him in person some day. He will be missed.

Savage Hands
03-15-2016, 09:11 AM
Rest well my friend...

03-15-2016, 09:12 AM
Rest in peace, Todd. Condolences to his friends and family.

Cosmo M3
03-15-2016, 09:15 AM
RIP Todd

made a tribute on my instagram and hopefully everyone donated #rampageforthecure

03-15-2016, 09:18 AM
I had the privlege of taking Speed Kills / Get SOM with TLG in Indiana, as well as Aim Fast Hit Small in Wilmington. He will be missed, but he leaves behind a great community within this forum.

Maple Syrup Actual
03-15-2016, 09:19 AM
That's a real loss. His influence on the shooting game is going to be felt for a very long time. Sad news.

03-15-2016, 09:19 AM
Never trained with him but would have liked to.

When we lose one of our own we are saddened but strengthened at the same time. Those who knew him should strive to remember him in the lessons he taught and knowledge he conveyed.

03-15-2016, 09:19 AM
I am so sorry to hear this. RIP Todd.

03-15-2016, 09:22 AM
He will be missed and may he rest in peace. Donation will be made to Rampage for the Cure.

03-15-2016, 09:22 AM
I never met him or spoke with him, but over the years his ideas had a significant impact on my shooting. RIP.

03-15-2016, 09:23 AM
I never got to meet Todd face to face but started conversing with him over the internet beginning with M4C and Jim Davis’s old Firearms Training and Tactics Forums. His class was on the top of my bucket list.

I have lost many close friends and family in my life time to cancer and I have never seen anyone fight it the way Todd did.

I am; we are diminished.

RIP my friend, my prayers are with you and your family.

Dagga Boy
03-15-2016, 09:23 AM
I will greatly miss one of my favorite debate partners. Todd and I shared a gene that we learn through vigorous debate. I liked going back and forth with him because he was such a worthy adversary. Wicked smart, witty, and most importantly...never took it personally. In the end we found ourselves agreeing an awful lot. I figured it was either the cancer drugs, or we had convinced each other of enough stuff that we had finally met in the middle. I think the most important aspect to Todd was that he was a good man....period. He fought cancer like a warrior, he helped anyone who needed it, and he loved to share knowledge. What more can I say.
See you on the other side pal, you were a good mensch .

Erick Gelhaus
03-15-2016, 09:23 AM
Rest in peace Todd. Thank you, truly, for all you have done.

PT Doc
03-15-2016, 09:25 AM
I am truly saddened to hear this. I knew he was sick, but that's all. Glad to say that I trained with him. My prayers to his family.


03-15-2016, 09:26 AM
I hate waking up and reading sad news like this. I never had the chance to meet Todd in person and I always wanted to take AFHF. We discussed Mals frequently and I always laughed at what Frejya was doing.

RIP Todd. My condolences to your family and close friends.

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03-15-2016, 09:27 AM
Todd had a significant impact on my life and will be missed terribly.

03-15-2016, 09:28 AM
Never met him in person but he and the community he founded here have taught me an incredible amount about shooting. One of the few shooting 'celebrities' whom I felt was a truly admirable person. You'll be missed, Todd.

03-15-2016, 09:34 AM
When I hosted Todd's October 2011 class here in Utah, I was going through a personal transformation of sorts. He (and SecondsCount) very patiently listened as I told my personal story at dinner the night before the class. He was a man of good humor and a truly good guy. I will miss him. My condolences to all who care about him.

Glenn E. Meyer
03-15-2016, 09:34 AM
My condolences to his family. Sad day.

03-15-2016, 09:34 AM
Tough to measure the impact he's had as he's influenced so many of my friends and people I train under, as well as a gear segment I've found myself in part time.

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03-15-2016, 09:41 AM
Rest in Peace, Todd. Know your legacy will live on through all the lives you have obviously touched.

03-15-2016, 09:47 AM
Quite a shock to read this on the book of faces just now. Todd was one of a kind and has departed way to soon. Prayers to his family. He will be remembered and missed.

Mitchell, Esq.
03-15-2016, 09:48 AM
I really wish I had the opportunity to get to know him in person rather than through online messages.


03-15-2016, 09:51 AM
What terrible news. I didn't know him personally, but was profoundly influenced by him. I am so thankful for the gift of this community he left us. He brought immeasurable class and intelligence to the study of pistolcraft and I know he will live on through our efforts to carry the torch for smart, analytical training. RIP.

Jason Burton
03-15-2016, 09:52 AM
RIP Todd... I'll have a good thought for your loved ones.

03-15-2016, 09:55 AM
Rest easy, Todd. You fought it all the way.

03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
Man. :(

No one has had a bigger impact on my shooting than Todd; I had the good fortune to attend AFHF in '10, and then AFHF/ACW in '11, but I'll never forgive myself for missing the last AFHF here in OKC in '12.

But the best part of Todd wasn't just the shooting and training, it was Todd. I'm just some dork nobody from Oklahoma, but Todd was always great to me, or at least masked his disdain very well ;p Whether joking here on the forum in the early days, or on Facebook later, Todd was a fun guy and always in good spirits. TLG was just flat out "good people".

As saddened as I am by this, I can only imagine the hurt for those of you who knew him so well for so long. My prayers out to you folks and his family.

Dr. No
03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
We are diminished.

03-15-2016, 09:56 AM
I wandered across this site and ToddG's words a long time after I thought I was a decent shooter. It was then that his typed words and those of others started me on the path to the 'beginning' of knowledge about this sport. One of the elite has left us. I believe it was either Precision Shooting or The Accurate Rifle magazine that had a, "Left the Range" post where those who were most noted in their sport would have a page of remembrance. The last sentence was often, "We are diminished." Very true words in Todd's case as well.

03-15-2016, 09:57 AM
Fair winds and following seas.

03-15-2016, 10:00 AM
I did not know Todd. I know of him through Pistol-Training.com blogs and his Pistol-Training forum. From what I know of him, he was a great instructor and put out a lot of good information on his blog. I learned a lot from reading his work. Rest in peace. My thought and prayers are with the Green Family and their friends.

03-15-2016, 10:15 AM
I never met him in person, but the community he brought together has come to mean a lot to me. I'm very sad to hear of his passing, but I will continue to learn a lot from him far into the future.

Rest easy, Todd.

03-15-2016, 10:17 AM
I never had the opportunity to take a class from him or meet him. I was drawn to this site based on his postings (and soon enough, many others here). This site is different than others, in a good way, and I think he was the reason for that. Anyway, I was trying to figure out how to run an LEM trigger gooder/faster/mo better, and his postings on the matter (along with nyeti) really put the whole system into another light for me. He did the same with high round counts on pistols and expecting them to go 2000 rounds between cleanings. He crushed a lot of pre-conceived notions, and did it in a humorous way. I will regret not being able to take a class with him. Godspeed TLG.

03-15-2016, 10:19 AM
One of my biggest training regrets is not having had the opportunity to train with Todd. Such a character and what an amazing contributor to the gun culture. My thoughts are with his family and friends in their time of hardship.

Rest easy, Todd. You helped and affected more people than you'll ever know.

okie john
03-15-2016, 10:22 AM

Prayers out.

I'll be on the range.

Okie John

Totem Polar
03-15-2016, 10:24 AM
What a sad way to start the day. I only knew Todd through his posts and PMs, but he was a wise and good man in all his comms. His wisdom and goodness lives on: one only needs to research, read and listen. We are absolutely diminished, and I'll miss him.

03-15-2016, 10:25 AM
I'll be on the range.

Okie John

I think that's a good idea right now.

Rodney Ledbetter
03-15-2016, 10:27 AM
Sad day. Rest in Peace. Thank You for all the knowledge and wisdom you passed on to others.

03-15-2016, 10:28 AM
Shocked. The moment I read this on FB, I started thinking of the Vikings and Valhalla and I came upon this poem (http://allpoetry.com/poem/2481861-Dedication--The-Halls-of-Valhalla-by-Lord-Merlynn) and this stanza stood out:

Back to the beginning...
And lo, they do call me,
In the halls of Valhalla
Where the brave may live forever!"

I'm lucky enough to have trained with Todd in '12 at AFHF. I'm lucky enough to have been a part of this community since '11. I'm lucky enough to have met many of you and traded thoughts online for so long. I'm lucky, b/c it was Todd who brought us together. May his lessons, skills and intellectual vigor live on and thrive in this forum and through its teachers and students.

Thank you Todd and thank you for bringing us together in your life and keeping us together in your after life.

RIP brother.

ETA: I'm so flabbergasted I forgot to send my thoughts and prayers to his wife, and his family. Sad day.

03-15-2016, 10:29 AM
Rest in Peace, Todd. You are an inspiration and always had a kind word of advice or a witty comment to lift up those around you. You will be greatly missed and the KSTG days will live on in our memories.

03-15-2016, 10:38 AM
On this occasion, words are truly inadequate .

Vaya Con Dios, Todd Green. You are missed.

03-15-2016, 10:41 AM

You fought the good fight, you finished your race, you kept the faith. Thank you for all your assistance and guidance over the years, from IALEFI to MTOA to AFHS. Your impact on our craft is significant and we are diminished. Prayers for your friends and family. Rest easy.


03-15-2016, 10:43 AM
I never got the chance to meet Todd, but his posts on pistol-training made me into the shooter I am today. His blog got me actually thinking about my shooting, his drill page gave me the tools to improve, and his forum is an invaluable resource and rally point for serious shooters. Never getting to one of his classes is something I seriously regret.

Thank you, Todd. You are missed.

03-15-2016, 10:47 AM
Rest in Peace, Todd.
I am deeply saddened by this news, Todd fought the good fight valiantly. I was thoroughly aware of his struggle with cancer it is such an insidious disease I had always hoped he would beat it AFHF style. I never had the opportunity to train wth Todd, or speak with him personally but I have learned so much from him, and the dedicated members here. TLG you will be missed greatly, my condolences to your entire Family and to all your friends.

John Hearne
03-15-2016, 10:47 AM

Thanks for posting that. I didn't think there was a picture of Todd and I together but that's me on the far right with the yellow tape on the ear pro. My thought bubble was probably "No way I'm winning it this year...."

03-15-2016, 10:48 AM
Crap, crap, crap. That's about all I can think right now. We are truly diminished!

03-15-2016, 10:52 AM
Last week, I took an old camera out of my desk and was going to toss it but decided I should pull the SD card. Found some pics from the one class that Todd hosted at our range. Todd was a fine diagnostician and had an honesty that not all appreciated but those who did benefited greatly. 6537

03-15-2016, 10:53 AM
I never had the pleasure of meeting Todd in person, only through PF and a few exchanged PMs. I cannot put into words what P-T.com and P-F.com have meant to me. Thank you for all you did Todd. This is a very sad day.

Prayers for his family and friends. RIP TLG

03-15-2016, 10:56 AM
I never met the man, but his writings here on pistolforum have been a big influence on the way I train. Condolences to Todd's family and friends.

03-15-2016, 11:04 AM
Todd you will be missed. You made the firearms community a better place for all.
Rest in Peace.

Condolences to his family.

03-15-2016, 11:09 AM
Go with God, amigo.
Until we meet again.

03-15-2016, 11:10 AM
Condolences to his family and his friends. I never met the man, but between his blog and this forum, he's definitely had an impact on my shooting.

Again, my deepest sympathies for those that knew and loved him.

03-15-2016, 11:10 AM
I appreciated Todd. I enjoyed his company in person the few times I saw him and his unfailing courtesy in our correspondence. I always enjoyed his writing and thinking. I did not always agree with his conclusions but you could tell that he reasoned to them instead of emoting to them, and they were always worth serious consideration. They did my shooting, and my thinking about shooting generally, a world of good. My thoughts are with his family and friends today.

Dave J
03-15-2016, 11:19 AM
Todd's determination to keep fighting to the end was an inspiration, and his influence as a trainer will be felt for decades in this community.

I just made a donation to Rampage, and think I'll head out to the range this afternoon to shoot the FAST a few times.

My sincerest condolences to his wife and family.

CS Tactical
03-15-2016, 11:22 AM
We are diminished...

03-15-2016, 11:24 AM
I never had the privilege to know the man like some of you here, but his site, this forum and his teachings are a part of me....that's for sure. Rest in peace.

03-15-2016, 11:27 AM
Prayers for his family; what a rich community and knowledge based he fostered and left behind.
He will live on as a doer-

“If you would not be forgotten as soon as you are dead, either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.”
~ B.Franklin

03-15-2016, 11:32 AM

Have a pleasant trip West my friend.

Josh Runkle
03-15-2016, 11:35 AM
F***, that sucks.

I took Speed Kills/Get SOM from him. He was a great instructor, teacher and coach. I have learned far more about shooting over the last 5-6 years, very slowly, through P-T/P-F, had the honor of being one of many to help test the Gadget...but the most I ever gained from Todd was a 5 minuto conversation about instructing. He told me that you couldn't just be an instructor. You had to be a teacher and a coach as well. You needed to understand adult learning theory just as well as being able to diagnose what a shooter is doing wrong, or coming up with/running a good drill. Essentially: the ability to communicate a skill in a variety of ways was more important than just being able to show the skill and ask someone to repeat it.

He profoundly impacted my shooting and teaching, as well as my general level of humor. This forum was really funny with him here. He will be sorely missed.

03-15-2016, 11:35 AM
Condolences to his family and friends.
His influence will be remembered.

03-15-2016, 11:39 AM
I had the good fortune to host Todd three times in Indiana, great instructor and a great guy. When I was screwing up, Todd always materialized out of thin air for a quick correction.

We have lost a true inspiration, Rest in Peace Brother, prayers to your family.

03-15-2016, 11:43 AM
Condolences to family and friends, prayers going out for them.
I had the opportunity to take AFHF twice, and saw big improvement in my skills. He was the one who really taught me how to practice pistol shooting to see real improvement. I was hoping he would get well enough to be able to teach again so I could learn more from him.

03-15-2016, 11:45 AM
RIP and my condolences to his friends & family.

I remember going out to eat with him and a few members here after completing his class talking about guns, training, life, etc. He genuinely cared about his students and had a great sense of humor.

He was definitely a class act. The conversation at dinner was very memorable.

Rest in peace, Todd, and my sincere condolences to his family and friends.

03-15-2016, 11:55 AM
I remember a bunch of things about you, Todd. I remember your spirited and fiery debating that made me think so much. I remember how you thought I hated your method of shooting on the move, but I actually loved it, think it's great, and teach it now. I also remember how you trolled me in AFHF. ;)

Most of all, I remember how you inspired me, Todd. I was just starting to seriously pursue technical skills, and I saw posts detailing your FAST performance. At the time, I didn't know that such shooting and gunhandling was possible with carry gear from concealment. Thank you for providing the example that inspired me so much. I'll never forget you.

Rest In Peace, Todd Louis Green.

Gabriel White

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Foxy Brown
03-15-2016, 11:55 AM
RIP Todd.

Condolences to your family and your loved ones (including your furry family member).

03-15-2016, 12:09 PM
Back in the early 2000s, Todd and Ernie Langdon came down to AZ for the state IDPA match, run for the first time by our friend Kurt Von Rice. Kurt had some ambitious ideas for the match, including night stages. Unfortunately things started dragging and we were unable to do the night shoot. Todd and I roamed the range, collecting all the night stage scorecards from the shooters. Then we got spare keys to Kurt's SUV from his wife. We wrote DNF in big letters across the score sheets, Scotch taped them to the vehicle's windows, and drove it onto the range to rib Kurt (who took it in the friendly vein in which it was intended). That was a fun match, and one of the last times I saw Todd in person.

03-15-2016, 12:10 PM
My sincere and deepest condolences to Todd's family and loved ones. We are truly diminished.

Cecil Burch
03-15-2016, 12:12 PM
This sucks.

I remember when I first encountered and interacted with Todd online, we did not just go at it, we went at with hammer and tongs. Back and forth on a couple of forums, with vitriol and immature anger (on my part). Then, when we met in person over dinner, I realized that his sarcasm that I despised so much online was almost always first directed at himself, and he was the first one to laugh when the joke was on him. Not only did we become friends then and there, he immediately took it upon himself to offer advice, moral support, and public encouragement on my efforts to teach and do seminars. He always had time to pat me on the back or push me to get myself out there more.

Some people slotted Todd in the non-tactical category because he never served mil or LE. I am telling anyone who will listen that he was a warrior to the bone. No one kicks cancer's ass for so long like he did without being a bad ass MoFo. I hope that I can face the Reaper like he did and say out loud "bite me buddy".

RIP TLG. Thank you for your friendship, inspiration, and your writing. Hold a spot on the line for me.

03-15-2016, 12:18 PM
I first met Todd in early 2005, when he was my Sig rep. I called him up in a fit of frustration and said "Your guns effing suck. I hate Sigs." Todd's reply: "let's meet at the range and work through it". Todd became my training partner for the next three years and a good friend for more than a decade. I met Todd when I had been carrying a gun for a living for nearly a decade, but Todd taught me how to shoot and how to train. More than that, he was my friend.

Cheap Shot
03-15-2016, 12:18 PM
RIP and condolences

Mike C
03-15-2016, 12:19 PM
My deepest condolences to his family and those of you here who knew him well. It's a sad day for certain, great loss to the community here. Rest in peace ToddG.

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03-15-2016, 12:35 PM
I regret not having the opportunity to meet and train with Todd. While we never met, I've learned much from his writings.

I will keep his family and friends in my prayers.

RIP Sir.

03-15-2016, 12:38 PM
I've always admired how Todd brings people together and his dedication to serving others. We've never met but I will definitely miss him. If he can impact a guy like me in such a great way, I can only imagine what he's done for others. Thanks for being Todd.

03-15-2016, 12:40 PM
RIP Todd.
Prayers and condolences go out to your family and friends. I never knew you, but the stories here speak volumes.

03-15-2016, 12:47 PM
Thank you Todd for your efforts with pistol-training.com and pistol-forum.com. You turned me on to AIWB.

03-15-2016, 12:51 PM
I first encountered Todd a long while back. A great deal of knowledge was gained on my part from that experience.

All my thoughts and condolences to his wife and family.

Fair winds and following seas...

John Ralston
03-15-2016, 12:54 PM
I first met Todd and SLG at the SHOT Show, back in 2008 I would guess. That first quick meeting spawned the SME. Really saddened by the news.

03-15-2016, 01:00 PM
I didn't know Todd aside from the odd interaction here and there on his sites. I'm pretty new to these parts.

What I do know was that I have spent hours reading and watching his contributions to the shooting sports I love, and I know that he shared in the creation of this community, which has been an invaluable resource.

My genuine condolences to those of you who counted him as a friend or family, and my respectful farewell to someone who, by all accounts, was a grand ambassador of our shared passion.

03-15-2016, 01:07 PM
I never met Todd in person, but I surely nagged him enough via email years ago with questions about drawing technique. I was an utter noob at the time, and he didn't know me from Adam. He could very easily have told me to come see him during a paid course, and he probably should have. But he responded to every single one of my dumb questions with patient, positive guidance. What a gentleman, and what a professional.

Deepest condolences to all his loved ones.

Odin Bravo One
03-15-2016, 01:15 PM
Goodbye my friend. I will miss our conversations, philosophical differences, arguments, range sessions, and after range shenanigans.

Thank you for always pushing me to push faster and farther. And no, I never thought I was invited because I have unlimited 9mm......

03-15-2016, 01:19 PM
I never met Todd. Don't recall that he and I ever interacted even here on the Forum. Yet I'm sitting here gasping like I've been gut punched.

Damn it.

Cookie Monster
03-15-2016, 01:22 PM
I never met Todd but I know the world is a better place because of him, his teachings, and the community he built. God bless him, condolences to all his friends and family.

03-15-2016, 01:36 PM
He will be missed across the spectrum. Never made it to a class of his, large regret on my part. Bon voyage Todd.

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Wondering Beard
03-15-2016, 01:37 PM
Oh Hell.

RIP, you are already missed

The planet is missing a leading light.

Condolences to his family,

03-15-2016, 01:38 PM
My sincerest condolences to his family, friends, and all of those who have been fortunate enough to receive Todd's wisdom, humor, and love. I will miss him terribly.


03-15-2016, 01:49 PM
I feel a sense of loss.
I took 1 of his classes and got a lot from it.
He and his friends and associates created this forum which is a beacon of: skill, intelligent discourse, vetted information, drills etc....
Much of what I do and use is due to the climate established by Todd, his associates and this forum.
Todd, Thank You.

03-15-2016, 01:56 PM
TLG, changed the way I shoot for the better. Feel a lot of gratitude for him and his skill set. Don't know anyone that didn't get better when shooting with him. Thank you Todd, God Speed brother - see you on the other side.

03-15-2016, 02:25 PM
Todd-You will, and already are, deeply missed. Many thanks for our detailed discussions and internet correspondence over the years, and your interest and help with my experiences and testing. My heartfelt condolences to your wife and family.

Best, Jon

03-15-2016, 02:33 PM
I never got a chance to meet Todd or train with him. I first discover pistol-training.com in college and read everything Todd posted. I liked the way he reasoned through problems. If something potentially better came along, he gave it an honest try. I can't begin to describe all that I learned just from reading his posts. This forum he helped found taught me even more and I'm still learning.

My condolences to his friends and family.

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The Apprentice
03-15-2016, 02:33 PM
Rest easy Todd. I sadly never got a chance to train with you but the community you built has had a tremendous influence on my shooting. Thankyou for everything you did for the shooting community. Thoughts and preyers are with your family.

03-15-2016, 02:37 PM
There's just no adequate way to say thanks for all of it, Todd.


03-15-2016, 02:44 PM
Goodbye, Todd, and thank you for everything you've created. I've spent the last few years reading and re-reading your posts, articles and drills, and I've learned something from every single one of them. Your world class shooting advice, perspective, and knowledge will live on for a very long time to come.

03-15-2016, 02:47 PM
I never met Todd, though I hoped to. He seemed a true gentleman. Condolences to his friends and family.

03-15-2016, 02:47 PM
Thoughts and prayers for the family and friends

03-15-2016, 02:48 PM

03-15-2016, 02:56 PM
I am another internet consumer of Todd's methods who regrets not having had the opportunity to take his classes. Nevertheless, his writings, videos, and the great community he has created here have been of great value to me. I will think about the guy everytime I put my thumb on a gadget or run a FAST.

03-15-2016, 03:00 PM
Todd was a good friend and one of the finest instructors I have known. He was intelligent, observant, committed, and knew how to teach far better than many "big" names in the industry. I am going to miss him.

Although he was wrong re. his irrational love of 357 Sig...

03-15-2016, 03:03 PM
Lots has been said that reflect the positive impact on what ToddG has done for the defensive pistol shooting community. For me, it completely changed the way I thought about carrying a gun for defense and being prepared to use it if that day comes.

My condolences to his family during this time.

Here is a happy memory of Todd challenging my son, 13 at that time, to a duel on the plate rack back in 2011.


Andy in NH
03-15-2016, 03:08 PM
I am another internet consumer of Todd's methods who regrets not having had the opportunity to take his classes. Nevertheless, his writings, videos, and the great community he has created here have been of great value to me. I will think about the guy everytime I put my thumb on a gadget or run a FAST.

That's exactly the way I feel.

Some worthy men are denied the privilege of growing old.

Condolences to his friends and family.

03-15-2016, 03:17 PM
In about 2011/2012 I decided to get serious about shooting. A search of the internet for drils, technique and I came upon Todd's blog. Soon thereafter the forum....

During this time I kept seeing Origami's videos and I noticed something very distinct. He was training in my range! Then one day he posted he planned to take the plunge and shoot USPSA. I had literally shot just a match or two myself but sure enough I spotted him at a match. I recognized him from his videos. No joke, he was looking to download all his carry guns. Origami and I have been friends since.

A couple matches later Origimi told me that some friends of his were bringing in Todd for AFHF and there was an opening if I wanted it! This was the first time in my life I ever paid for training with my own money.

I shot the class in duty gear with a P30 LEM!

Todd was an amazing instructor and I learned so much. He really was a huge inspiration at a pivotal moment in my "career." He was a good guy. His class was top notch. He was a great instructor and had good information. For somebody who wasn’t a top level competitor or prior military/LE he was able to build a successful brand.

03-15-2016, 03:26 PM
"Death had to take Todd sleeping, for if he had been awake, there would have been a fight."

Thank you Todd for helping me when I first started shooting with your writing, information and this forum. If you're close to Todd and his family, please make sure his wife has whatever she needs in her time of need and let us know if she needs anything.

fuck cancer.

03-15-2016, 03:32 PM
LL, thank you for this thread. I'm very saddened by this news. Prayers to his family.

03-15-2016, 03:37 PM
I shot the class in duty gear with a P30 LEM!

You did the LEM proud that weekend.

03-15-2016, 03:42 PM
Today's Earworm:

Especially verse two...

03-15-2016, 03:45 PM
I'll offer my prayers for Todd and his family.

What sucks is that I met him once a long time ago, not just in passing, and I was not impressed. When I joined here I wondered, "Is that the same Todd G?" Maybe we'd have never hit it off, but I feel like I missed the best of him. My condolences to all of you who were friends with him.

03-15-2016, 03:55 PM
I posted the below on my TYV FB page.

He and I very often disagreed, disliked one another, talked shit behind each other's backs, fought, argued, and generally did not get along.

But, I do believe he contributed a lot to the training industry, and the firearms community as a whole. The idea that people should be accountable for their training, quantifying & documenting their progress, and defending their opinions based in facts and experiences, were all ideas that he vehemently championed.

In addition the idea that a non-LE, non-military, regular dude has something to contribute to the discussion when the topic is folks of a similar background and their self-defense choices.

He also reached out to me personally at a time when my life was turning itself upside down, which always meant a lot to me and changed my opinion of him as a person for the better.

I'm sorry to see him go, and I will miss our disagreements tremendously.

03-15-2016, 04:21 PM
When I got out of work and saw that BaiHu had contacted me about this, my heart wrenched.

He was a fantastic instructor, and I took 3 of his courses. They were not only the most productive courses I've taken in developing skill, but they were the most fun. He was incredibly influential in where I took my shooting goals/skill development, and I'm glad that I had the chance to interact with him. All of you guys who never got a single class in with him......ya'll really did miss out.

Probably one of the best memories I have of him are sitting in a hotel lobby with BaiHu and Todd, and the ensuing horribly unPC conversations that developed...which prompted hotel guests give us looks as they walked by. God damn, his conversations were great.

In his afterlife, I hope heaven accepts his Archer innuendos and puns, because otherwise Heaven is in for a shock. I'm sure he won't have time for it though, because he's probably already found a Belgian Mal that is eating up his time.

03-15-2016, 04:32 PM
I've known Todd since the early days of IDPA. He was at a lot of the same major matches as me. I remember that a few of the usual suspects, Todd among them, would go out to dinner with much conversation.

The last time I saw him was a few years ago at Fort Harmar. Todd had come to Ohio to visit with Ken Hackathorn and was at one of the Sunday Study Groups. Todd was in his Glock phase and he had a New York trigger spring in his G-17. I had a spare regular trigger spring in my bag that he used to improve the trigger. I am sorry he is gone. The world is a better place for his being here.

03-15-2016, 04:35 PM
I never had the pleasure of meeting you in person, but I can honestly say you changed me for the better. Thank you and God bless you and your family. R.I.P.

PD Sgt.
03-15-2016, 04:38 PM
My thoughts and condolences to his family.

Rest easy sir, everyone you touched will carry on from here.

03-15-2016, 04:45 PM
I am a long time lurker. Todd's articles and posts and drills have helped me a lot. My deepest condolences to Todd's family and friends.

Jewish Blessing of the Mourners

Those who are worn out and crushed by this mourning, let your hearts consider this:
this is the path that has existed from the time of creation and will exist forever.
Many have drunk from it and many will yet drink.
As was the first meal, so shall be the last.
May the master of comfort comfort you.
Blessed are those who comforts the mourners.

03-15-2016, 04:56 PM
Damn...RIP brother...

Never ,et you in person but you have made a profound impact on our community

03-15-2016, 04:59 PM

My condolences to his family and friends. He will be missed.... GREATLY.

03-15-2016, 05:15 PM
Man. I felt like I was slapped in the face when I saw this thread today. Probably 95% of what I do with a pistol relates directly back to what I've learned from Todd's influence on his site and this forum, and like many here, I never had the privilege of meeting the man personally. I was fortunate enough to interact with him once or twice on his site.

My wife was surprised at my sadness for what she described as an "online friend", which is a generous term because Todd never knew me. I had to explain to her that for the last 8+ years, other than email, pistol-training and pistol-forum are the only sites I visit and I check them daily. So yeah, Todd has had a major impact on my life. Truly saddened and thinking of his family.

Kyle Reese
03-15-2016, 05:20 PM
Todd was a true friend & a great mentor. He was loyal, generous and more than willing to impart his considerable knowledge to his students. I was truly blessed to have Todd in my life, and will miss his wisdom, wit, counsel and friendship. We are truly diminished with his passing.

I miss you, bro.

Hansohn Brothers
03-15-2016, 05:25 PM
I'm very sorry to hear this and sincerely regret not meeting nor training with him. Peace be with him and his family.

Joe in PNG
03-15-2016, 06:10 PM
Wish I had the chance to meet with him IRL. You will be missed.

03-15-2016, 06:10 PM
Here you go Todd, last drill of the day:

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg251/GJMandes/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpscg0ggqcz.jpeg (http://s250.photobucket.com/user/GJMandes/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpscg0ggqcz.jpeg.html)

03-15-2016, 06:20 PM
I took my Beretta 92D to the range this afternoon, partially to re-confirm zero after Tooltech re-lamped my tritium sights, partially to prep for this weekend's IDPA match, and partially in thought of Todd. He and I had some good discussions on Berettas-he disagreed with my choice of the Wolff TCU trigger return assembly (which is in it to this day), I in turn disagreed with his disagreement-but as in all things, I appreciated his discussion, and how my, and others' lives were enriched (and skill-sets increased) due to our interactions.

While I wasn't thinking of Todd when I strapped the Beretta on this morning, it turned out to be a commemoration of sorts that I think he'd appreciate...

Best, Jon

03-15-2016, 06:28 PM
I never knew Todd, met Todd, or spent any significant amount of time with him other than being on this forum and following his posts and articles for years. I would've loved to have taken a class but just simply wasn't able to when he was still teaching.

I had a sick feeling the last few days; I lost a dear friend to Leukemia a few months ago and he kind of dropped out of things (facebook, etc.) after making some rebounds and definite hard times. I only say that to say; I'm glad Todd took the time away and I hope that it was fruitful. He always seemed to know the right thing to do at the right time. I went through a lot of life (ups, downs, and otherwsie) surfing these and other forums he contributed to, and I genuinely enjoyed the guy, his perspective, abilities, articles, tests, and great attitude. I'll miss him and his contributions dearly, and I just pray for his family and friends through this process for peace and comfort.

You'll be missed.

God Bless,


03-15-2016, 06:34 PM
I met Todd in 2009. I was that "dude" in Ohio. I hosted his AFHF twice and the second and last AFHS class. It may have been his last class before he relapsed. He influenced me and those around me profoundly and I will forever be grateful having known him. I have yet to know somebody else who could piss as many people off as he could, based on forum posts and overall snark. I never met anybody who could top his intellect and verbal judo. I am sad, today.

Chuck Whitlock
03-15-2016, 06:36 PM

I, too, wish I had known him in person. I enjoyed the discussions that he had participated in here....words fail me.

Vaya con Dios

03-15-2016, 06:37 PM
I didn't know Todd, but judging from the comments here, he was a man who gave more than he took. That's the best any of us can hope for.

03-15-2016, 06:38 PM
Todd, I am glad to have met you, and privileged to have trained with you. I am a better shooter because of you. RIP.

03-15-2016, 07:06 PM
Other than a few emails/pm's I only knew ToddG via this forum and PT.com. I had hoped to one day train with him. Even though I never met him, he definitely influenced my shooting in ways it needed. I spend much more time now focusing on accuracy in addition to speed. And he got me hooked on Archer.

My sincere condolences to LL, SLG and everyone else who were close with Todd.

03-15-2016, 07:42 PM
God damnit. I am so sorry to hear.

Rest in Peace, Mr. Green.

03-15-2016, 07:56 PM
I first met Todd a million years ago when he was at Beretta and managing the old Beretta_L email list before firearms forums were really a thing. Over the years his impact on my shooting and training has been subtle but significant, and the FAST is now and will probably always be the drill I teach to shooters as the "if you're only going to run one drill, it needs to be this one" drill. We are certainly diminished. Rest in peace, TLG, you will be missed.

03-15-2016, 08:00 PM
My condolences to his many friends. May your memories someday bring nothing but smiles and chuckles, and replace the sadness you currently feel.

My thoughts and prayers are with the Green family. May they receive comfort and strength during this difficult time.

Tony Mayer
03-15-2016, 08:09 PM
My favorite Todd story. I was in a AFHF class in Sacramento, 2012 I think. So it was the second day of class and the students were paired up doing action vs. reaction with a partner. Me and my partner decided to challenge ourselves and choose a different target than what Todd had told us to shoot at. He was walking down the line checking students progress, pointing out issues or faults. As Todd walked up to us, my partner had told me nice job (I had beat him on that string). Todd, in his most "snarky" (I am pretty sure that the term snarky was invented because of Todd) way of pointing things out says "Yeah, nice job, except you didn't hit the target". Neither of us told him we had picked different targets, we just smiled as he shook his head and started back down the line. As he was walking away, he heard us say "Let's shoot at this target now". He turns around, comes back to us and says "I am a deuche-bag, I didn't realize you were shooting at different targets, that was a nice job".....He didn't have to come back and say that, but he did. He instantly earned my respect at that point and that simple gesture told me what kind of person he was. Love him or hate him, he impacted a lot of people in his too short life, and he had a huge impact on me for sure. I wish I could have known him better, but am grateful for the few moments I had with him. RIP Todd, you will be missed and remembered.

03-15-2016, 08:26 PM
A novena for your soul, and the litanies of Mary and Joseph for the comfort and strength of those who were close to you.

I first started arguing and agreeing with Todd in '97 on the idpa list (or uspsa, or some other place where I didn't know what I didn't know). Years later GJM sent me here, and I'm very sorry I didn't manage to train with Todd though I came to admire him. The community he formed is now important to me.

I hadn't read the forum today until I went to post today's range report. In it, I describe shooting a cold FAST with a P30LEM. Honest to God, I dropped the first head shot and screamed 'DAMN IT!'

Todd and I are the same age. Memento, homo, quia pulvis es, et in pulverem reverteris.

03-15-2016, 08:30 PM
Though I never met Todd face to face, he has been an enormous influence in my personal and professional life.

The people I have met through Todd and the training I have received from those people are far from the least of the gifts he gave me.

Several times I had the opportunity to take a class with him and for various reasons did not. I will regret those decisions for the rest of my life.


El Cid
03-15-2016, 08:31 PM
I never met Todd but I'm grateful for this place. One of the few worthwhile firearms and training sites. My condolences to his friends and family. F*ck cancer.

03-15-2016, 08:32 PM
I had the chance to meet and train with Todd at Ernest Langdon's class last September in VA. Todd had a good laugh watching me do a thumb-over-slide press check on a very hot Beretta 92...exposed barrels get hot quick...lesson learned. Later that night at dinner, we had a good time laughing about that teaching moment over some Mexican food. Todd was with friends that weekend and I got the vibe real quick that he meant a great deal to them. He truly made a huge impact on many people doing something he loved. I hope we all could be so lucky in this often too cruel and short time on earth.

03-15-2016, 08:34 PM
So sad... We are diminished. RIP.

03-15-2016, 08:41 PM
I never had the pleasure to meet Todd. I feel connected to him through the many posts of his I've read here and on the blog. His writing inspired me to work to be a better shooter.
Rest in peace Todd.

03-15-2016, 08:42 PM
RIP Todd.

I first e-met Todd many years ago on the old Tactics-L, Glock-L, and Beretta-L list-servs prior to his time at BUSA. Much accomplished, and contributed since then. Thank you, Todd.

03-15-2016, 08:57 PM
RIP Todd Green. I never got to take one of his classes but ironically in a sense he's probably had the biggest impact on me as a pistol shooter, based on his posts at m4c, his blog and this forum. I really appreciated his great intellect and insight. One could tell that he was a renaissance man, and he cultivated a kind of elevated pistol culture of knowledge, training and awareness that stripped away the bullshit and elevated one's understanding. There is no other way I can put it. This forum is a further testament to this elevated pistol culture of knowledge and awareness he created and if I could I would get all shooters to come and learn from here. Thank you Todd Green.

03-15-2016, 09:06 PM
I have lots of things to say, but none of them are coming out right. So instead, here's a fun story about me and Todd getting up to some shenanigans:

We both attended separate classes at the same facility. Todd took a beginner's level class to see how they did things as he was briefly flirting with doing beginners instruction.

In Todd's class there was a young man from Chicago with absolutely no experience with firearms whatsoever. He was struggling and wasn't getting enough individual attention to really help him given the size of the class. So after class on the second day Todd calls me and says "Tim, this guy needs individual help and I've seen what you can do with new shooters...you're the perfect guy to help him, dude. These other guys aren't going to." The man knew how to play on my sympathies.

So I grab my trust range-bag Glock 17 that goes with me to just about every class just-in-case, and we ambush him outside his room. "Hey! This is my friend Tim. And he's going to help you get sorted out."

And then for the next two hours we basically forced this kid to dryfire. Pretty much against his will. He did it, but he wasn't exactly enthusiastic about this development. After 2-2.5 hours of this...with the kid pouring sweat by the end of it...he asked for a break. As he left to go smoke a cigarette I told Todd "You know he's going to go out there, dial 911, and tell the cops that he's being held against his will by two armed white dudes." We both found the prospects of explaining to the local constabulary that we had been forcing this kid to learn marksmanship fundamentals to be utterly hilarious. We both ended up on the floor laughing our ass off. "He could have left at any time! We actually GAVE him a gun! Sure, it was unloaded but that didn't matter for Patty Hearst!"

He came back in after a long smoke break and Todd made a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail that the kid didn't get because he'd never seen the movie. I just happened to have a DVD of that movie in my car, at that time equipped with a DVD player. So then we forced him to watch The Holy Grail for a bit. I threw in the towel personally after a while because at that point I really was concerned that we were bordering on a serious felony.

The next day the kid goes back on the line and where he had been the worst guy there in terms of marksmanship and handling, he was suddenly one of the top shooters. He actually contacted me sometime later asking if he could get a picture Todd took of him in that class, and thanking the both of us for Shanghai-ing him into a better shooter.

03-15-2016, 09:19 PM
RIP TLG. Never had a chance to train with him.

03-15-2016, 09:20 PM
This will always be how I remember shooting the FAST...in the rain, under Todd's expert eye, at the inaugural Aim Fast Hit Small. Thanks, Todd.


03-15-2016, 09:20 PM
RIP Todd. I never knew you, met you or spoke with you, but I wouldn't be where I am at shooting-wise without you. This site and pistol-training, with all the knowledge you poured into them introduced me to whole new, more serious side of shooting; helped me weed out derp from non-derp and set me on the path to shooting righteousness. I'll get there some day.

Plus, any man who founds an Archer themed cancer charity is awesome in my book...

03-15-2016, 09:21 PM
I'm sitting here wondering why I'm so upset about a person I never met passing away and it finally came to me. It's not about whether I met him, it's not about being best buds, it's about the impact, and Todd had a huge impact on me. He is the reason my family is safer, he is the reason I'm not only a better shooter, but a better person who sees all the angles all the possible repercussions of my decisions and actions. Todd Green was a great man not only because he taught me that if I fuck up I will die, but because my actions and my decisions have an impact on a lot more than just me. Todd, I just ordered a shot timer and I will be shooting a FAST drill EVERY time I'm at the range for myself, but also in your remembrance. THANK YOU!

03-15-2016, 09:23 PM
Todd innately understood marketing. The FAST was brilliant, and my recollection is that he modeled it on the Rogers School testing. Think of how many folks took AFHF again, to get a shot at that coin.

Reflect on the unveiling of whatever was his latest test pistol -- where folks might even solve a jigsaw puzzle, a bit at a time, to see what the next pistol Todd was testing, which inevitably might be the pistol they would be running.

Todd understood the concept of a training journal. Ten or fifteen years ago, who would have thunk someone would write down what they were practicing, and that many others would find that interesting.

I think he lived at the perfect time in history, to do what he did so well -- excepting I wish cancer cures were further ahead now.

03-15-2016, 09:24 PM
I had the pleasure of taking 4 classes with Todd and honestly enjoyed the lunches, after class dinners, day before meetings, and just general harassment from Todd almost as much as I enjoyed his style of personal instruction. There are very few people who can "mind fuck" me like he did right before a drill. I like him because of it. I remember most often when we talked about ways of getting better he constantly reminded me to keep learning. But that specifically meant self review and peer review at the point I was rather than just continuing to spend money on returning to his class. For Todd it was always about the road to get to the destination rather than just the means to an end. He talked to me often of how Ernest, SLG, Richard, Dave, and countless others influenced his shooting abilities and shaped him as the shooter he was. If there was one thing I liked most about Todd, it was the fact it was never about Todd. He gave credit out more than he ever claimed and tooted the horns of all those who came up before him and with him.

Although we all sit around and lift him up tonight as he goes to another level far above me/us, Todd would never let the conversation turn to himself. He would defer and praise others so I'll do the same. To all of you that ever had a discussion with Todd, shot with Todd as a friend, taught Todd as an instructor, learned from him as a student, or just knew him in your own special way, Thank You! I feel in some small way, that I have benefitted from the fact that Todd knew you, and I knew Todd. RIP my friend and I will always cherish those talks and times we had. May the LORD comfort all of your family and friends in this time of need. GODSPEED

03-15-2016, 09:25 PM
This will always be how I remember shooting the FAST...in the rain, under Todd's expert eye, at the inaugural Aim Fast Hit Small. Thanks, Todd.


One of my all time favorite photos!

03-15-2016, 09:38 PM
Thoughts and prayers with the family. Todd you are missed.

03-15-2016, 09:40 PM
God bless him and his family. I'm relatively new to this site but it is clear that he has created a great legacy and it's evident by the quality of people who were his friends and participants to this high quality forum he created. God bless you Todd, your legacy and passion will live on. You will be missed.

03-15-2016, 09:43 PM
I have lots of things to say, but none of them are coming out right. So instead, here's a fun story about me and Todd getting up to some shenanigans:

We both attended separate classes at the same facility. Todd took a beginner's level class to see how they did things as he was briefly flirting with doing beginners instruction.

In Todd's class there was a young man from Chicago with absolutely no experience with firearms whatsoever. He was struggling and wasn't getting enough individual attention to really help him given the size of the class. So after class on the second day Todd calls me and says "Tim, this guy needs individual help and I've seen what you can do with new shooters...you're the perfect guy to help him, dude. These other guys aren't going to." The man knew how to play on my sympathies.

So I grab my trust range-bag Glock 17 that goes with me to just about every class just-in-case, and we ambush him outside his room. "Hey! This is my friend Tim. And he's going to help you get sorted out."

And then for the next two hours we basically forced this kid to dryfire. Pretty much against his will. He did it, but he wasn't exactly enthusiastic about this development. After 2-2.5 hours of this...with the kid pouring sweat by the end of it...he asked for a break. As he left to go smoke a cigarette I told Todd "You know he's going to go out there, dial 911, and tell the cops that he's being held against his will by two armed white dudes." We both found the prospects of explaining to the local constabulary that we had been forcing this kid to learn marksmanship fundamentals to be utterly hilarious. We both ended up on the floor laughing our ass off. "He could have left at any time! We actually GAVE him a gun! Sure, it was unloaded but that didn't matter for Patty Hearst!"

He came back in after a long smoke break and Todd made a reference to Monty Python and the Holy Grail that the kid didn't get because he'd never seen the movie. I just happened to have a DVD of that movie in my car, at that time equipped with a DVD player. So then we forced him to watch The Holy Grail for a bit. I threw in the towel personally after a while because at that point I really was concerned that we were bordering on a serious felony.

The next day the kid goes back on the line and where he had been the worst guy there in terms of marksmanship and handling, he was suddenly one of the top shooters. He actually contacted me sometime later asking if he could get a picture Todd took of him in that class, and thanking the both of us for Shanghai-ing him into a better shooter.

That is beyond classic, that's gun geek movie material for me right there. Thank you for sharing that.

03-15-2016, 09:56 PM
RIP Mr Green. 45 is far too young and thanks for all your work.

Maple Syrup Actual
03-15-2016, 09:58 PM
You know, I was thinking about this whole thing earlier today, about Todd mentioning a few years ago that he wondered what role solvent exposure had played in his developing cancer at a young age.

I have no idea if that was ever resolved, or if it could or should be. But one thing that really changed in my life was that after that comment, I began using nitrile gloves when cleaning my guns. And then I started focusing on other sources of chemical exposure, like tumbling brass. And nowadays, when I'm working on boats or cars or bikes, I'm really careful with solvents and oils, and it all traces back to that one comment he made.

So this morning I went on this little rant on FB in which I tagged a bunch of my shooting friends, which I'm just going to allude to here: my personal tribute to Todd is that I have become very conscious about chemical exposure, which is a very real threat in the shooting business, in my opinion.

I think that there's not much better way to honour a guy than to use him as a motivation to keep yourself and your family safe. So all the shooting tips and skills aside, which I might never use to extend my life, there's something I got from him that I'm absolutely certain is going to help me live longer and healthier, and that's materials handling safety.

And if I could hope for one positive thing to come out of this, it would be that everybody in the shooting game, and in particular those who knew or learned from Todd Green, take stock of their off-range safety practices, specifically in regards to chemical exposure. I didn't know Todd especially well, although I was fortunate to take Aim Fast Hit Fast from him a number of years ago. But I feel certain that he would like the idea of people using his memory as a motivating factor to keep themselves healthy.

Anyway, that's how I'm approaching this loss.

03-15-2016, 09:58 PM
I signed up here specifically to convey my condolences to Todd's Family and friends.

I was shocked to hear of his passing. We were all enriched by his presence amongst us and he will be sorely missed.

RIP Todd!

03-15-2016, 10:01 PM
Pretty amazing to see the impact one person has had on such a large group of diverse yet like minded individuals. Fair winds and following seas.

03-15-2016, 10:02 PM
Anyway, that's how I'm approaching this loss.

I wear gloves now, too.

That and I don't clean my guns very often. Another thing I learned from Todd. :cool:

03-15-2016, 10:04 PM
R.I.P Todd

03-15-2016, 10:06 PM
Like many here, Todd inspired me to push myself as a shooter and get more out of both my training and teaching.

My condolences his family and loved ones, including Freyja.

I've never been part of a "virtual wake" before so I will just do what I would do at a real wake: pay my respects and share an amusing and slightly embarrassing episode involving the departed. In this case, the infamous Ballistic radio Episode where they repeatedly hung up on Todd: http://ballisticradio.com/2013/04/22/podcast-ballistic-radio-episode-7-april-21-2013/

R.I.P. my friend.

03-15-2016, 10:06 PM
God speed Mr. Green!

03-15-2016, 10:06 PM
I took several classes from Todd and while I wasn't as close to him as many here he had been in my home and played with my dogs and I was honored to call him a friend. I have another close friend who was on her second round of chemo for ovarian cancer today so this hit hard.

His analytical nature meshed with mine and while I never could reach his level of note taking and detail I learned from him and strived to improve. He taught several techniques differently that I had originally learned and while I didn't adopt all of them several did work their way into my toolbox. Of all the shooting things the piece I remember most was his concern of lead poisoning post shooting in the restroom, to this day that discussion is still in the back of my mind.

The most memorable post class dinner I've ever attended took place after one of the OKC AFHF at Cracker Barrel. Ed L had ordered some sort of catfish and after about 7 tries they still could not get his order right. It became so ridiculous that Ed accused us of orchestrating the whole thing; by the end of the night most of the table was in tears.

RIP Todd and may your previous furry friends be waiting for you at the Rainbow Bridge. Thoughts to his wife,family and friends.

My wife was an unofficial class photographer for a couple years so I have lots of photos floating around; here are a few of my favorites

Todd's St Jude's fundraiser at the 2010 Tac Conf
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/bratch83/C11A80A8-E8B4-46C8-937E-36D8B0378893.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/bratch83/media/C11A80A8-E8B4-46C8-937E-36D8B0378893.jpg.html)

Todd disapproving of whatever LoknLod was doing
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/bratch83/B341F562-C3BC-49EE-8D8D-67B3EF36A151.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/bratch83/media/B341F562-C3BC-49EE-8D8D-67B3EF36A151.jpg.html)

Me and Todd
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/bratch83/FD578ECF-A060-4634-9664-926664C5B70A.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/bratch83/media/FD578ECF-A060-4634-9664-926664C5B70A.jpg.html)

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp221/bratch83/757F22D1-65A5-48B7-95FA-52F7C1D38EB7.jpg (http://s414.photobucket.com/user/bratch83/media/757F22D1-65A5-48B7-95FA-52F7C1D38EB7.jpg.html)

03-15-2016, 10:20 PM
Todd disapproving of whatever LoknLod was doing

That. Is. Awesome. I'd forgotten about that pic. :D

Thanks for posting... and Ed's catfish. LOL!

03-15-2016, 10:22 PM
I am relatively a new member. I tend to forget that many of these forum sights are run by passionate people who share a common belief. I appreciate his creation.
RIP. My thoughts and prayers to his family and friends.

03-15-2016, 10:52 PM
I've always treasured the experience of taking one of his courses, and keenly appreciated his approach to firearms training. I credit him as the inspiration for my switching to appendix carry, and the mindset I adopted with it. It helps that he had a sarcastic style of humor that I appreciate.

We lost one of the good ones today. Rest in peace Todd.

03-15-2016, 10:54 PM
Such sad news, his family and friends are in my thoughts and prayers. Just about everything I do in terms of shooting, training, and self defense can be traced back to Todd in some way -- influenced either directly by his articles, posts, and drills, or indirectly by other instructors he made me aware of or the people he brought together in this community. His absence will always be felt. Each of our own journeys of self improvement will come to an end one day, but what we've taught and inspired others to do will live on, compounding over time and accomplishing more than any one man ever could. Todd leaves behind a remarkable legacy even to those who never had the pleasure to meet or train with him.

Savage Hands
03-15-2016, 10:54 PM
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03-15-2016, 11:00 PM
Man. Fuck cancer.

I never met Mr. Green, but if not for him, I feel I'd be stuck in some kind of perpetual dunning-kruger state at the local indoor range. So I have that to thank him for. I wish comfort and solace on his family and all you who knew him well and are hurting at his passing.

Rest in peace Mr. Green

03-15-2016, 11:05 PM
RIP buddy. Thanks for all you have done in the industry. Off to an eternity of shooting with unlimited ammo my man. God Speed.

03-15-2016, 11:18 PM
Todd was a class act all the time. This forum and the Pistol Training site are both testaments to his good work and knowledge.

Rest in peace buddy. You left us too soon.

03-15-2016, 11:27 PM
Thoughts and prayers for friends and family - reminding me at least to not wait on things before they are too late

03-15-2016, 11:38 PM
Always hoped he would make a return to teaching so I could shoot with him again. His first Indy class in 2010 that I attended made probably the biggest impact on my shooting style and the techniques I use more than any other pistol class I've have taken before or since.

I was just thinking about Todd the other day and was I concerned that he had been silent online for a few weeks. He will be missed greatly by so many.

03-15-2016, 11:41 PM
I'm seeing several screen names in this thread I haven't seen here in years. I think that is a testament to the breadth of Todd's impact on us all as a community.

03-15-2016, 11:47 PM
When I saw the change to the forum's logo and realized what it meant, well, that wasn't a good moment, but it's absolutely fitting that the place he created should remember him that way.

I'm not sure there's much I can say that others haven't already said. I never got to meet him, but I wish I had. Many of the things he wrote, both here and on P-T.com, caused me to think about things differently and to learn. Thank you, ToddG. You will be missed.

Hot Sauce
03-15-2016, 11:51 PM
RIP. Never met the man, and really wish I had.

03-15-2016, 11:57 PM
Todd was a phenomenal instructor. He taught me how to shoot more accurately, faster but more than the shooting skill watching how good he was at teaching made me a better instructor.

I was fortunate to host one of the last classes he taught before he was forced to retire from instructing.

His blog and this forum have improved the state of handgunnery or at least educated more people on the best methods of the art.

The world is worse off for his loss. He will be missed.

03-16-2016, 12:42 AM
Here's Todd doing the Triple Nickle at the AFHF class I hosted (don't even remember the year)


And doing what he did best (training others) and keeping things rolling.


Here he is running me through the FAST. Got a 7.04 that day using my Ruger P94. So close to making it on the wall I'd have cried if I didn't know I gave it my all.
He showed me how to shave 3 seconds off my FAST time in on class!


Robert Mitchum
03-16-2016, 12:49 AM
"Peace be upon him"

03-16-2016, 01:02 AM
"...that he be remembered by a good range day with friends. "
Little Lebowski

After tonight's IDPA match at Phoenix Rod & Gun Club, we did just that.
Earnest Langdon, Kurt Von Rice , Rob Moore, Jacob Wedge ,Sean M. & myself on the line doing a 36 gun salute in the form of a 6 man FAST drill.
In honor of Todd.


03-16-2016, 04:51 AM
I feel seriously diminished and saddened. Todd moved the needle in pistol shooting as a sport, hobby, and lifestyle, like no one else.

Al T.
03-16-2016, 05:08 AM
Damn. RIP Todd.

03-16-2016, 05:34 AM
Rest in Peace Brother. I was very honored to be your friend. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.

03-16-2016, 07:28 AM
RIP Todd. I never knew you but your impact has been felt. As an athletic coach this is something I strive for:

"The energy and beauty of youth fade, the glory we pass on"

03-16-2016, 07:32 AM
The true measure of a man's life is not the wealth he leaves behind, but the impact that he leaves on everyone he touches. A life well lived and an example for us all. Peace Brother.

03-16-2016, 07:58 AM
On a lighter note, this might be my favorite TLG video. Trying the almost impossible (triple nickel with 3 shots on each target), and being totally pissed that he didn't quite pull it off.


Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

03-16-2016, 08:14 AM
Nice post regarding Todd on Soldier Systems.


Chuck Haggard
03-16-2016, 09:06 AM
In the Shooting Wire today;


S Jenks
03-16-2016, 09:10 AM
I lost my 48 year old mother to RCC in 2009 so this is bringing up a lot memories.

I attended AFHF in Rhode Island in 2012 where I met Baihu and TGS, among others. From the insane torrential rains of day one to Todd's fear of snakes "spraying out from the earth" after removing a stake from the ground on day two, it will be a class I will never forget.

Here's an old cell phone video of Todd shooting a 5.5 FAST with the Springfield. I love his reaction when he learned he had a clean run just over 5 seconds.


Thank you Todd, not only for all you accomplished but for being the type of person you were.

03-16-2016, 09:14 AM
RIP. Never got to meet him, but man did Todd and this place have an outsized impact on my development as a shooter. Also, the teaching nuggets, I've learned and passed on. Todd has left a legacy.
So, gratitude for all of that, and also thanks for the contributions of the folks here. From the SMEs to the normal posters here, this place has been a great place to spur rational discussion and share ideas.

03-16-2016, 10:18 AM
I was able to take Aim Fast Hit Fast several times. Todd was a great teacher and really jumped my performance up and gave me the training bug.

After really messing up a FAST drill that would have won me a coin he told me, "Well, the good news is you suck less than last time." For some reason hearing the news that is the first thing that came to mind. I enjoyed the candor and pushing. Classes were always serious, Todd a little less so.

I am grateful I had the privilege. I wish I could have known him better.

03-16-2016, 11:09 AM
I attended AFHF in early 2012. It was enormously influential on me as a shooter. I was also blown away by his abilities as a teacher and speaker. He was as precise with his words as with his pistol. I felt I was barely good enough to actually belong in the class and always intended to ramp up to take another class. I was saddened to learn he was unable to continue teaching but I had hoped against hope he would eventually be able to teach again. F*ck cancer indeed.

My thoughts are with his family and friends.

03-16-2016, 11:20 AM
I never had the opportunity to meet or train with Todd, but I certainly learned quite a bit from him and others on this site he started. I'll also echo others in appreciation of Todd's ability to disagree or lead to correction without belittling. I came here initially defending the M&P platform, which by now we all know has some accuracy issues in 9mm. Todd politely showed me the error of my ways and gave me some things to try. Of course in turned out he was right and even when I apologized to him, he was gracious instead of rubbing it in my face.

Thank you Todd for all you've done for us students of the pistol and may the grace and peace of God carry those you leave behind on this Earth.

John Ralston
03-16-2016, 11:26 AM
I had a customer that just ordered an SME, and he emailed to ask if I could put Todd's initials on the holster, since it was Todd's influence that prompted him to buy the SME. Of course I was going to oblige his request, but it really got me thinking. Since Todd and SLG are the only reason that the SME even exists, I figure it is fitting to acknowledge it from now on, in memoriam. All SME's from this point forward will have the following stamped on the back...


03-16-2016, 11:30 AM
That's very cool.

03-16-2016, 11:37 AM
Never met Todd but his writings have definitely influenced my views and ideas about shooting (as well as leading me to join the aiwb cult 😁) RIP

03-16-2016, 12:04 PM
Todd was very helpful with my own business and graciously provided me with information and answered any / all questions that I had for him. Great influence in my pistol shooting and he welcomed me to this site and encouraged participation here about the time I was pushing back from social media and the www in general, including forums. Because of this I will always have a special connection with Todd and this site.

Aloha 'Oe Todd.

Dave Williams
03-16-2016, 12:11 PM
Just saw this, terrible news. I'd first encountered Todd on the Beretta-L, and Tactics-L lists where he was an amazing arguer/debater. Then I met him at the first Vickers class with 10-8, where he was one of the best shooters with his P229 DAK .357Sig. John Noveske(RIP) had a shorty AR that wouldn't work, and Larry was busting John's balls, so Todd (who was working for Sig at the time) whipped out a full auto Sig 552 shorty which of course worked like a charm. When Todd opened his own training company I signed up for the first class in Pittsburgh. He told some great stories about the industry and was a fun guy to hang around with. I know many of you were close friends with him, my condolences.

RIP Todd.

03-16-2016, 02:03 PM
A while back, someone sent me these pictures of me and Todd in the AFHF class out here in 2012. Kind of blurry and maybe not the best pictures, but they are the only ones I have and it seems like a good time to share.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1680/25212430723_3d84bb1a6a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/EpWigr)IMG_2966 (https://flic.kr/p/EpWigr) by OrigamiAK (https://www.flickr.com/photos/52790396@N08/), on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1474/25718062662_c5be19ebb9_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FbBN2u)IMG_2967 (https://flic.kr/p/FbBN2u) by OrigamiAK (https://www.flickr.com/photos/52790396@N08/), on Flickr
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1716/25718048502_a07c7d0a74_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FbBHPm)photo (https://flic.kr/p/FbBHPm) by OrigamiAK (https://www.flickr.com/photos/52790396@N08/), on Flickr

03-16-2016, 02:07 PM
When I saw the thread title I thought that it couldn't be. Unfortunately I never met ToddG, or most of you on here, but I would like to say thanks to all for making this forum possible.

My condolences to all family and friends.

03-16-2016, 03:14 PM
My condolences to his family, it's going to be hard he was too young.

Warren Wilson
03-16-2016, 06:15 PM
My experiences with Todd have been echoed a dozen times in this thread. I never shook his hand, but was honored to have corresponded with him quite a bit. There's at least one article I couldn't have written without his help. Ironically, it published just a few days ago. The gut punch I'm feeling over the loss of someone I've never met in person is quite a testament to the man himself.

I was at Tac-Con this past weekend. Watching so many of Todd's friends power through their emotions and teach their blocks knowing how advanced his disease had become was a throat-lumping experience.

RIP, sir and thanks for everything.

03-16-2016, 08:24 PM
He is missed, and will continue to be missed.