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gqllc007
03-14-2016, 02:55 PM
Sadly I am in NY and we are limited to 10+1.
There is no point in me carrying my Glock 19 anymore with our new restrictions.
That leaves me using my Glock 26.
I also carry a Kahr P9 but prefer more capacity.
I was wondering what is out there that is slimmer than the 26 and carries 10+1 that is double action (striker fired) or double/single action vs a 1911 style cocked and locked??

Kyle Reese
03-14-2016, 03:04 PM
I'd seriously consider the Walther PPS M1 or M2 in 9mm. While they don't quite hold 10 rounds (6,7 and 8 round mags are available), they're very accurate and reliable little guns, and they won't break the bank.

Glenn E. Meyer
03-14-2016, 03:11 PM
Best to check out the safe act. IIRC, you can have a ten round mag but only use it at a range or competition. If you carry the gun, you are limited to 7.

http://programs.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-owners


A: While at a recognized range, whether you are there for recreation or for participating in shooting competitions, you may load the full ten rounds into any magazine you have. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting 7 rounds in the magazine in all other locations.

Kyle Reese
03-14-2016, 03:12 PM
Best to check out the safe act. IIRC, you can have a ten round mag but only use it at a range or competition. If you carry the gun, you are limited to 7.

http://programs.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-owners

Makes an excellent case for the PPS.

wmu12071
03-14-2016, 03:42 PM
Sadly I am in NY and we are limited to 10+1.
There is no point in me carrying my Glock 19 anymore with our new restrictions.
That leaves me using my Glock 26.
I also carry a Kahr P9 but prefer more capacity.
I was wondering what is out there that is slimmer than the 26 and carries 10+1 that is double action (striker fired) or double/single action vs a 1911 style cocked and locked??

Warning: I am new here, I know nothing. That being said, if I was in a situation tomorrow that required limited mag size for a carry gun I would carry a P239. For me it is smaller* than a full size pistol but I can still shoot it close to the same pace.

*not as small as a glock 26 by a long shot but I shoot the P239 better than a glock 26.

LittleLebowski
03-14-2016, 03:44 PM
Makes an excellent case for the PPS.

Yup.

Nephrology
03-14-2016, 04:44 PM
Makes an excellent case for the PPS.

and 1911s.

45dotACP
03-14-2016, 04:46 PM
A 1911 commander in 9mm or .38 super would be totally rad.

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GJM
03-14-2016, 04:47 PM
In a JM Universal, there is no difference in concealment between a 26 and PPS M2. I really like both, but shoot the 26 far better, and reload the 26 WAY faster.

Nephrology
03-14-2016, 04:51 PM
If I lived in NY State, I'd probably invest in a reloading setup for .45 and buy myself some nice 1911s and a pair of S&W 625s...

3" K frames might be a good option too.

JAD
03-14-2016, 04:52 PM
A 1911 commander in 9mm or .38 super would be totally rad.

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So would a CCO or super sentinel if the limit is 7. I /adore/ my .45 CCO -- a Super would be cheating.

gqllc007
03-14-2016, 06:36 PM
Best to check out the safe act. IIRC, you can have a ten round mag but only use it at a range or competition. If you carry the gun, you are limited to 7.

http://programs.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-owners

That was struck down in the courts. Its 10 rounds

LSP552
03-14-2016, 08:37 PM
Warning: I am new here, I know nothing. That being said, if I was in a situation tomorrow that required limited mag size for a carry gun I would carry a P239. For me it is smaller* than a full size pistol but I can still shoot it close to the same pace.

*not as small as a glock 26 by a long shot but I shoot the P239 better than a glock 26.

Add me to the list that much prefers the P239 to a G26. I find the blocky Glock harder to conceal, FOR ME, both IWB and OWB at the 3:30. The ease of shooting and carrying the P239 makes me OK with the capacity.

GJM
03-14-2016, 08:40 PM
High class problem picking between the 239 and G26, both at the top off their respective categories.

LSP552
03-14-2016, 08:44 PM
High class problem picking between the 239 and G26, both at the top off their respective categories.

Yep, sucks to have that problem.....

Sigfan26
03-14-2016, 08:45 PM
I'd seriously consider one of the new P225A1's if I was looking to fill that niche. But, I'd probably just get a Glock 26

Rustin
03-14-2016, 10:25 PM
M1911,m1911a1,1911...

Springfield xds 4.0... 7 and 9 round mags, but its an xd...

Walther pps m2 ftw. Or 1911...

olstyn
03-14-2016, 11:51 PM
I was wondering what is out there that is slimmer than the 26 and carries 10+1 that is double action (striker fired) or double/single action vs a 1911 style cocked and locked??

G26 + DA/SA = Walther P99c. External dimensions are almost identical (IIRC the Walther is a fraction of an inch taller than the G26), but it's less blocky, especially in the slide, so some folks find it easier to conceal. IMO it's kind of a hidden gem of a gun, but of course your opinion and mileage may vary, especially given the love it or hate it nature of paddle mag releases.

ffhounddog
03-15-2016, 04:31 AM
Have you tried a P2000sk or P30sk both with flat bottoms.

gqllc007
03-15-2016, 05:54 AM
Have you tried a P2000sk or P30sk both with flat bottoms.
I had P2000sk but it was just as blocky as the G26

Glenn E. Meyer
03-15-2016, 09:41 AM
That was struck down in the courts. Its 10 rounds

That's good news - but why is on the state web page then? Huh! What I would expect from the NY state government.

I thought it was enforced as I read a post somewhere recently by an LEO wanting to visit NY and stating he was limited to 7. Thus, he was taking a 7 shot revolver.

Kram
03-15-2016, 09:55 AM
I had P2000sk but it was just as blocky as the G26

The P30sk with small panels installed feels slimmer to me then the glock 26.

gqllc007
03-15-2016, 12:27 PM
That's good news - but why is on the state web page then? Huh! What I would expect from the NY state government.

I thought it was enforced as I read a post somewhere recently by an LEO wanting to visit NY and stating he was limited to 7. Thus, he was taking a 7 shot revolver.
New York State, the court ruled, failed to produce evidence that the provision would stop criminals from simply adding three more rounds to get the magazine to its full, 10-bullet potential. “It is thus entirely untethered from the state rationale of reducing the number of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines in circulation,” the court said in its 57-page ruling.

The seven-round limit was among the key components pushed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo when he got lawmakers to go along with the SAFE Act in early 2013. With seven-round magazines difficult to find, a compromise was struck that said gun owners could use 10-round magazines, but load only up to seven rounds in them. The appeals court ruling means that gun owners can legally load 10 rounds in a 10-round magazine.

psalms144.1
03-15-2016, 01:58 PM
There aren't many sub-compact sized, 10-shot pistols that are going to be a lot slimmer than the G26. The P2000sk and P30sk would be top of my list if I was looking for a hammer-fired alternative to the G26.

If you're looking for a hammer-fired equivalent to the PM9, the Ruger LC9 and Sig P290 are the only two that come to mind as possibilities I'd consider

LorenzoS
03-15-2016, 03:41 PM
... but why is on the state web page then? Huh! What I would expect from the NY state government.

Yeah, so strange that they "accidentally" publish the wrong information that just happens to be more restrictive than the current regulation.

BillSWPA
03-15-2016, 04:08 PM
I think a better answer could be provided if we understood exactly why a G26 is not a preferred choice.

Since it is my favorite EDC, I am having a tough time understanding that. It conceals like a small frame .38 but shoots like a larger gun. Re: blockiness, consider that it's overall thickness is no greater than many single stack guns, including some mentioned above.

Holmes375
03-15-2016, 04:18 PM
If the OP can live with a striker fire pistol an M&P Shield might be a consideration. The 8 round magazine fitted with a Magguts kit offers a reliable 9+1 handgun that is noticeably slimmer than the Glock 26. Its an extremely easy to carry/conceal set up.

gqllc007
03-15-2016, 06:00 PM
I do like my G26. I even use to carry my G19 when I could use preban magazines. I was hoping the G43 would have held 9 or 10.
I also carry my Kahr P9 because I like how thin it is. That is a 7+1. I was just hoping for a G43 thinness with 9 or 10. I am very proficient with a Glock. I am also a Glock armorer but I have been out of the loop with the newest pistols

Mitchell, Esq.
03-15-2016, 06:16 PM
If the OP can live with a striker fire pistol an M&P Shield might be a consideration. The 8 round magazine fitted with a Magguts kit offers a reliable 9+1 handgun that is noticeably slimmer than the Glock 26. Its an extremely easy to carry/conceal set up.

Is the Magguts kit reliable?

Holmes375
03-15-2016, 06:36 PM
Is the Magguts kit reliable?

I know of a dozen or so in regular use by friends and they've proven reliable. I have hundreds of rounds through mine with no trouble at all.

They are a spendy way to gain an extra round (about $24 if I recall) but I don't know of a better slimline service caliber pistol that offers 10 at the ready. With my M&P pistols I add an Apex sear and install my preferred sights. The Shield benefits from a set of Talon or Traction grips for me, too. A bit slippery out of the box. Holster selection is diverse given its popularity.

Glenn E. Meyer
03-15-2016, 08:50 PM
I read that Cuomo wanted a 5 round limit and was told that there weren't mags that low. So he went for 7. The NY Times said that was idiotic - so if the Times thought so, it must have been so. Back in the ban days, I had (and still do) a G19 that came with 10's but I scored some non drop free 15s. Not the fastest reload but whatever.

M2CattleCo
03-15-2016, 11:07 PM
Warning: I am new here, I know nothing. That being said, if I was in a situation tomorrow that required limited mag size for a carry gun I would carry a P239. For me it is smaller* than a full size pistol but I can still shoot it close to the same pace.

*not as small as a glock 26 by a long shot but I shoot the P239 better than a glock 26.


This. I'm in South Texas and I'm going back to the P239 for every day use, Glock 43 for deep concealment.

My Glocks are theoretically easier to carry but the thickness is exacerbated by the squareness and it wears me down by the end of the day. I carried an M9 all day Sunday IWB and it actually feels flatter than my Glock.

MGW
03-18-2016, 09:51 PM
I've grown very fond of my P239 in a very short amount of time. For whatever reason it carries much smaller than a Glock 19 and is more comfortable than carrying a 26.

gqllc007
03-20-2016, 07:15 AM
I had a Sig P239 and it was my least used carry gun. I eventually sold it. Yesterday I picked up a Glock 43 and +2 taran mag extension. So I am hoping that fills the void for what I am looking for.

RJ
03-20-2016, 07:56 AM
I had a Sig P239 and it was my least used carry gun. I eventually sold it. Yesterday I picked up a Glock 43 and +2 taran mag extension. So I am hoping that fills the void for what I am looking for.

Hard to go wrong with a G43.

I shot all three of the poular slim small 9s (G43, Shield, PPS M2) and bought a PPS M2.

Both the Glock and S&W felt squirmy to me. The PPS M2 fit me very well.

My M2 is running well with 390 rounds so far. We have a round count thread going over at Walther forums and no one is reporting a lot of issues.

gqllc007
03-20-2016, 09:55 AM
Hard to go wrong with a G43.

I shot all three of the poular slim small 9s (G43, Shield, PPS M2) and bought a PPS M2.

Both the Glock and S&W felt squirmy to me. The PPS M2 fit me very well.


My M2 is running well with 390 rounds so far. We have a round count thread going over at Walther forums and no one is reporting a lot of issues.
I was actually going to the LGS yesterday to buy both the G43 and the PPS M2. The Mrs is getting her permit so I figured I would buy both. Anyways they did not have the PPS M2 in stock. I will buy it at some point. I had the original PPS at one point but it was an early release and there were issues with it although it was very accurate.
I am a Glock armorer and have G26, 2-G17's, 2-G19's, G36, G30sf, G32, and G34 so I am very familiar with the Glock platform.