9MM Semi-wadcutter

[Edwin]

Does anyone know of a 9MM semi-wadcutter that is between a 125gr and 147gr? Prefer coated but I'm open minded. The only ones that I could find is this 150gr Bayou (http://www.bayoubullets.net/9mm-150-gr-swc-100-ct/) and this 125gr SWC Missouri Bullet Co (http://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=207&category=5&secondary&keywords).

How does a Flat Point round compare to SWC?

[mtnbkr]

How does a Flat Point round compare to SWC?

FRP may feed better than SWC. Overall profile is different (FRP is like a round nose with the round point lopped off).

If you do a google image search, you'll see the difference right off. They're quite different.

Chris

[Chuck Haggard]

I've fired actual resized .38 special LSWC bullets from handloaded 9mm rounds before, so I know it can be done and be reliable, but I don't know of anyone making such ammo.

[BN]

A buddy tried the Bayou 150 SWC in his 1911 and didn't like them. I don't remember exactly why.

What is your purpose? The Bayou 147 flat points cut a pretty nice hole in cardboard.

[rob_s]

When I went from .45 to 9mm years ago, the biggest thing I missed was the nice clean holes the LSWC made from the .45 I was shooting. I never did find anything else that would come close in 9mm and eventually gave up and just shoot factory ammo now as the $:time wasn't worthwhile for me with 9mm.

[Hambo]

I've fired actual resized .38 special LSWC bullets from handloaded 9mm rounds before, so I know it can be done and be reliable, but I don't know of anyone making such ammo.

^ This is the answer and it's not that hard to do. A Lee size/lube kit is about $20 and you can resize commercially cast bullets. However, I think coated bullets would get skinned.

The other option is cast your own: http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.php?cPath=34&sort=2a&page=2

[Chuck Haggard]

^ This is the answer and it's not that hard to do. A Lee size/lube kit is about $20 and you can resize commercially cast bullets. However, I think coated bullets would get skinned.

The link that the OP posted has SWCs already sized for 9mm, something I didn't know existed in the wild. That would certainly cut out a big step in the process.

[Hambo]

I hadn't finished my first coffee yet, but I was thinking that if there's a mold, there's a bullet out there somewhere. That doesn't seem to be the case with anything between the 125 and 150 he listed. But now he's got me interested in the Bayou 150gr.

[Edwin]

The big honken 150gr SWC would work great out of a carbine, but I was hoping to find something a bit better for my pistol (~135gr).

[1986s4]

I used to shoot a coated 135gr. 9mm sized SWC bullet from Master Blaster, now out of business. They fed very well in my '91 CZ 75. I have been looking for a replacement since.

[dsa]

However, I think coated bullets would get skinned.



A coated bullets shouldn't get skinned if the coating was applied properly. The bigger issue is set back/rebound; if the .38 bullets drop too big to be sized down to .356 they could swell or grow a bit after resizing. It will depend on the mold and alloy used. In my experience .004" -.005" is getting close to the limit.

[Chuck Haggard]

http://www.hornady.com/store/38-Cal-.358-140-gr-COWBOY/

[Hambo]

The big honken 150gr SWC would work great out of a carbine, but I was hoping to find something a bit better for my pistol (~135gr).

We'll find out how they work out of a Beretta when my Bayou order arrives.

[Edwin]

We'll find out how they work out of a Beretta when my Bayou order arrives.
Ditto. I ordered 100 of each type.

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[LtDave]

I think Penn Bullets has a 115 gr SWC. Yup, right here:
http://www.pennbullets.com/9mm/9mm-caliber.html

[JAD]

I have run several thousand of the MoBuCo 125 LSWC (and its predecessor from another company local to KC). Works great, no leading in P35, Springer RO, many other pistols. I've run them from 950 to 1150 fps with titegroup, HS6, 231, blue dot, and WST. My current load is 4.0 tg, 1.125", for 1100 fps.

[JAD]

Actually just found a boatload of them going through storage. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160227/4a4d723f1741281ea27c382b56378005.jpg

[Dr. No]

Anyone used SWC in STI 2011 guns? Any problems?

[Malamute]

Actually just found a boatload of them going through storage. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160227/4a4d723f1741281ea27c382b56378005.jpg

What bullets are those?


ETA: I figured it out. The ones in your picture look like a wider flat point than the ones on their site. Still, looks like a nice bullet.

[Edwin]

I think Penn Bullets has a 115 gr SWC. Yup, right here:
http://www.pennbullets.com/9mm/9mm-caliber.html

These aren't coated so I'm going to pass.


I have run several thousand of the MoBuCo 125 LSWC (and its predecessor from another company local to KC). Works great, no leading in P35, Springer RO, many other pistols. I've run them from 950 to 1150 fps with titegroup, HS6, 231, blue dot, and WST. My current load is 4.0 tg, 1.125", for 1100 fps.

I mentioned these in my first post and have some on order.

[JAD]

I mentioned these in my first post and have some on order.

Yes, that's why I abbreviated the name. I thought you might be interested in first hand experience.

[LtDave]

+1 for coated bullets. I've had good luck with the 147 Bayou.

[Hambo]

Better late than never. I loaded some 150's to test using 147gr data from Lyman 49th Ed.

Bayou Bullets 150gr SWC
3.0gr Bullseye (Starting load in the manual is 2.8gr)
WSP primer in mixed brass

893fps, PF of 133, and they functioned in my 92 Brigadier. Because these are longer than an SNS 147gr bullet, I seated them to a longer OAL, but there isn't much powder capacity. Because of that I'm not inclined to try to increase the charge much if at all.

Standard disclaimer: I'm not a rocket scientist, YMMV, use data at your own risk, you'll all be killed, blah, blah, blah...

For comparison I ran some 147gr Speer factory ammo across the screens at 960.

[Trooper224]

http://www.dardascastbullets.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?

[Jim Watson]

I shot some of the Bayou SWCs.
They fed more smoothly and were more accurate than the usual run of 147 flatpoint.
I wish one of the coated bullet companies would make a 145-150 gr 9mm roundnose.

[Hambo]

I wish one of the coated bullet companies would make a 145-150 gr 9mm roundnose.

http://www.snscasting.com/new-9mm-147-grain-round-nose-coated-1000ct/

[ranger]

I shot several thousand 150 SWC lead projectiles through my 9mm's (not Glocks). My old SIG226 loved them. Shot well in my M&P PRO 5 inch also. Made pretty holes in paper too! Work well on steel targets too for USPSA/IDPA.

[Edwin]

Any interest here for a 135 grn, .356", 9mm SWC? I have a coated bullet manufacturer willing to commission the making of the mold if I get enough interest to justify the cost of making the mold.

In other news, I have a test batch of 50, 143grn, .356 9mm SWC en route to me for testing. Should testing go well, I think it would be a great way to keep the aspect of a coated 147grn RN bullet (low powder, charge, lower recoil) while giving us the benefit of a nice clean hole for scoring 15 yards and removing any ambiguity if you should get the Alpha or Down 0.

[richiecotite]

Any interest here for a 135 grn, .356", 9mm SWC? I have a coated bullet manufacturer willing to commission the making of the mold if I get enough interest to justify the cost of making the mold.


How much (shipped) we talmbout?

I'd probably be in for a thou...

[Edwin]

How much (shipped) we talmbout?

I'd probably be in for a thou...

No clue yet. I expect it to be a little bit more at first to cover the cost of making the mold, but over time for the price to be in line with other offerings. For context, here are their prices for their current offerings.

9 mm 115 grn. RN 500 ct. $35.00
9 mm 125 grn. RN 500 ct. $39.00
9 mm 147 grn. TFP 500 ct. $43.00
9 mm 147 grn. TFP 3000 ct. $225.00

[Jim Watson]

http://www.snscasting.com/new-9mm-147-grain-round-nose-coated-1000ct/

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