Looking for a good EDC flashlight

[Jared]

I've got a couple Surefire G2 sized lights that are in the home and the vehicles, but I'd like something smaller that I can clip in a pocket and carry with me.

I'd really like a light that runs on 2 AA batteries as opposed to the CR123's. So much easier to readily source AA's.

I'd also prefer if it was made in the US. This isn't an absolute deal breaker, but I do prefer to buy domestically produced items when I can.

If Surefire showed a light like this on their website, I'd order it right now, but I'm not coming up with anything there. I like the look of the Streamlight Tac Pro 2AA, but like I mentioned above, I'd prefer US produced.

[RJ]

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[Gray222]

I am going to do a review of the streamlight 2aa soon. I just finally killed one and bought a second one. Really good lights, lots of excellent design features and 155 lumen is just right for a lot of what I need it for.

There is no other light like it and i highly recommend it.

[BobM]

I am going to do a review of the streamlight 2aa soon. I just finally killed one and bought a second one. Really good lights, lots of excellent design features and 155 lumen is just right for a lot of what I need it for.

There is no other light like it and i highly recommend it.

My daughter gave me one for Christmas and so far I'm very pleased with it


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[LSP972]

I'd like something smaller that I can clip in a pocket and carry with me.



In that case, you might want to alter your parameters to a one-AA cell light. A two-AA cell light is going to be on the long side.

Flashlights are one area where the pedigree really doesn't matter. US manufacturers produce crap just as well as Pacific Rim manufacturers. Ditto for good lights.

Anyway, you owe it to yourself to check out something like the Fenix LD15. No clip, but it rides in a pocket quite nicely.

This assumes you're looking for a non-LE-purposed light…


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[xmanhockey7]

In my opinion there's Surefire then there's the stuff everyone else makes. If it's a light you may use in a defensive situation I would recommend a Surefire light that takes a CR123. The EB1 backup is a great light. I like the tactical version better. It's a single cell light so whenever you need to change the battery it's only one and it's fairly small.

[Chuck Haggard]

While I tend to recommend higher end lights, I've been getting a LOT of mileage lately out of a Streamlight Microstream and a Stylus Pro.

Both are AAA battery lights, the Micro is single battery, the Pro is double battery.

[ubervic]

While I tend to recommend higher end lights, I've been getting a LOT of mileage lately out of a Streamlight Microstream and a Stylus Pro.

Both are AAA battery lights, the Micro is single battery, the Pro is double battery.

I just picked up the Stylus Pro on a lark. Added it to my ProTac 1L.
Love the form factor of the Stylus Pro, and the momentary activation is great. But the constant-on activation takes much more effort than I'd like. Maybe it's just my sample.

[BJXDS]

I am not sure that there is a whole lot still made in the USA anymore, but I have had good luck with Quark FourSevens, they have recently revamped their lineup.

[joshs]

In my opinion there's Surefire then there's the stuff everyone else makes. If it's a light you may use in a defensive situation I would recommend a Surefire light that takes a CR123. The EB1 backup is a great light. I like the tactical version better. It's a single cell light so whenever you need to change the battery it's only one and it's fairly small.

I was disappointed with my EB1 tactical. Surefire seemed to try to save money by using the same head, and therefore programming, between the EB1T and the standard EB1. This let the EB1T get stuck in the low mode, even with the switch fully depressed, if the timeout on the head programming from had not been exceeded before pressing the switch again.

There aren't a lot of options for US made AA lights. I haven't used his AA lights, but I've been extremely happy with every Malkoff light I've owned. If you don't mind the "non-tactical" switching, the Malkoff MDC series is available in 1xAA and 2xAA models.

[Gater]

More props for the Streamlight Microstream C4. I have a number of issued and personally purchased Surefires that are great lights, but for urban EDC--especially pocket carry--this thing is hard to beat for size/weight efficiency with a readily available battery (it weighs just over an ounce with battery), and throws much better than you would expect. Sounds like the OP is looking for something bigger, but for others pondering a pocket light, this is an easy buy at the price.

[TGS]

FourSevens, all the way.

I don't see what my Surefire gives me that my FourSevens (technically a 4Sevens, it's older) doesn't....while my 4Sevens has a whole lot more programming capability. It's easily the most versatile light I've ever seen, and does just as a good a job as a tactical light or utility light as any dedicated tac or utility light I've seen.

The CR123 Quark is the perfect size, too......though I understand your reasons for a AA.

As for Streamlight, I've owned two of their products and wouldn't hesitate to buy their stuff.

[Jared]

I have a MicroStream at work. I like it for a work light as I can clip it to my hat. For something to carry, I am hoping for something brighter. Not face melting bright, but more than the MicroStream brings.

[PNWTO]

I've tried to keep most of my shit either AAA or CR123 so my business light is the micro and my "everything else" is the ProTac model that takes 2 123s.

[Chuck Haggard]

I have a MicroStream at work. I like it for a work light as I can clip it to my hat. For something to carry, I am hoping for something brighter. Not face melting bright, but more than the MicroStream brings.

That Stylus Pro is basically the same light stretched to take two batteries, and with a lot more lumens

[joshs]

I am not sure that there is a whole lot still made in the USA anymore, but I have had good luck with Quark FourSevens, they have recently revamped their lineup.

There are a fair number of high quality flashlight companies in the USA. Elzetta, HDS Systems, Malkoff, Oveready/Torchlab, Peak LED, Surefire, and I think even Maglite make lights in the USA. This excludes several smaller custom/semi-custom manufacturers.

[The Apprentice]

I like my streamlight pro tac 2aa and 2l the 2aa is a little long which depending on how you dress could be good or bad. It sticks out of your pocket a bit more making it easy to grab but if you are more of a suit or slacks kind of guy that my not be desirable. The 2l fits better down in a pocket but is still a nice size. However I am thinking of trying out a surefire titan ultra it seems like a lot of light from a tinny package.

[Drang]

I've got a couple Surefire G2 sized lights that are in the home and the vehicles, but I'd like something smaller that I can clip in a pocket and carry with me.

I'd really like a light that runs on 2 AA batteries as opposed to the CR123's. So much easier to readily source AA's.
Mini-Mags are pretty old school, but why not? AAs, pocket clip, you can get LED and tail cap conversions, too.

[cmbarny2]

I was going to recommend the Streamlight microstream as well but just saw you wanted something more than that. What about the Surefire Titan Plus? I haven't used it but it says its got a 300 lumen high mode according to the amazon stats and its a rechargeable AAA.

[Jared]

I was going to recommend the Streamlight microstream as well but just saw you wanted something more than that. What about the Surefire Titan Plus? I haven't used it but it says its got a 300 lumen high mode according to the amazon stats and its a rechargeable AAA.

I honestly thought the Surefire Titan Plus might be a little smaller that I was looking for. I couldn't tell if it came with a clip either, which is something I really want. Maybe I should give it a second look.

Eta: I'm a derping idiot. I just rechecked. It does have a clip. Good grief I should do a better job looking at pictures as well as reading spec sheets. They said it was a keychain light so I assumed no clip.

[DMF13]

I've got a couple Surefire G2 sized lights that are in the home and the vehicles, but I'd like something smaller that I can clip in a pocket and carry with me.

I'd really like a light that runs on 2 AA batteries as opposed to the CR123's. So much easier to readily source AA's.

I'd also prefer if it was made in the US. This isn't an absolute deal breaker, but I do prefer to buy domestically produced items when I can.

If Surefire showed a light like this on their website, I'd order it right now, but I'm not coming up with anything there. I like the look of the Streamlight Tac Pro 2AA, but like I mentioned above, I'd prefer US produced.For EDC, I finally settled on a Streamlight ProTac 1L.

I tried a bunch of lights. Most were either not bright enough, or too large to carry all the time. The ProTac1L is plenty bright at 180 lumens, and in the nice little holster it comes with, it fits perfectly behind my spare mags on my weak side.

I've had lots of luck with Streamlight products, and at less than $40 it's a great deal.

[Cookie Monster]

I'll argue that you should go with a Surefire light and order a bulk pack of CR123 batteries:

http://www.amazon.com/Surefire-Pack-123A-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0010HDGIA

Thanks how I roll, my lights don't get extensive use so the batteries last a long time and I keep a few spares in my work bags and travel bags. If you are burning through batteries, you should be thinking about re-chargeable batteries.

[xmanhockey7]

I was disappointed with my EB1 tactical. Surefire seemed to try to save money by using the same head, and therefore programming, between the EB1T and the standard EB1. This let the EB1T get stuck in the low mode, even with the switch fully depressed, if the timeout on the head programming from had not been exceeded before pressing the switch again.

There aren't a lot of options for US made AA lights. I haven't used his AA lights, but I've been extremely happy with every Malkoff light I've owned. If you don't mind the "non-tactical" switching, the Malkoff MDC series is available in 1xAA and 2xAA models.

I think you got a click head somehow.

[olstyn]

FourSevens, all the way.

The CR123 Quark is the perfect size, too......though I understand your reasons for a AA.

Agreed, love my QTL, it's easy to carry and provides a lot of light when I need it. On the batteries, I opted to buy a charger and a couple of RCR123a batteries (Tenergy), and I couldn't be happier. I just swap the battery from the charger into the light and vice versa around the first of the month every month, and I've never had it not give me light when I needed it. Obviously some folks may have different usage patterns requiring more frequent battery charging, but even if it's weekly, it's really not a hard routine to get into, and given the retail price of CR123 batteries, the rechargeables pay for themselves pretty quickly.

[orionz06]

Foursevens is worth a look. They're as bright as the Surefire lights should be.


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[martin_j001]

I've owned several Surefires (back in the early 2000's), but since discovering FourSevens a few years ago I haven't seen the reason to go with anything else (helped that they were located nearby too). I now own several of their lights and have been pleased with every one of them.

[joshs]

SF may have fixed the issue, but a number of other people reported the same problem with the EB1T on Candle Power Forums. It worked out for me anyways because my frustration with the EB1T UI led me to impulse buy an HDS Systems EDC Rotary Tactical, which is the perfect flashlight for me.

[LittleLebowski]

SF may have fixed the issue, but a number of other people reported the same problem with the EB1T on Candle Power Forums. It worked out for me anyways because my frustration with the EB1T UI led me to impulse buy an HDS Systems EDC Rotary Tactical, which is the perfect flashlight for me.

I was hoping it was cheaper than Surefire. Not by much (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OB0ZVXG/) :D

[joshs]

I was hoping it was cheaper than Surefire. Not by much (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OB0ZVXG/) :D

HDS definitely aren't cheap, but it's the only flashlight UI I've used that allows true momentary with no chance of accidental mode changes or constant on while still having easy one-hand access to a really wide range of constant on brightness modes.

[LtDave]

Another fan of the 4Sevens Quark with single 123. Definitely my favorite EDC light and I have a bunch. I really like my titanium one.

[Shawn Dodson]

Streamlight AAA Microstream - about the size of a ChapStick. Been carrying one daily for about 5 years and it does everything I've needed it to do. I clip it to the outer corner of my support hand side pants pocket and I don't notice it's there.

[Drew78]

My edc light isn't super cool mall ninja tactical, but its served me very well now for several years. It's a zebra light sc52. Removable clip, small, 1aa battery, programmable, tail stands, very durable this far and it isn't pampered. My pockets are a brutal place to live. It's s usa company in Texas, but they manufacturer overseas.

[breakingtime91]

I have carried a E1b for roughly two years now. That's everyday for two years, no days off. It has saved my ass at a bar, lit up a couple potentional robbers and been used as a strike tool. It is durable, dependable, and easy to carry.

[baddean]

I bought one of these a couple of years ago for a friend of mine who is in the heating and air conditioning business. He wanted something small that he could hold in his mouth while in dark/dim basements and utility rooms. He has beat this thing to death it looks like hell but he loves it. Looks like what the OP might be looking for.
http://powertacusa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=299
My EDC light is one of these http://powertacusa.com/E5-Gen4.
Mine is an earlier generation but has served me well for several years now.

[Casey]

I'm a dedicated SureFire guy, even though some of their newer products are questionable. My EDC lights are the EB1 (http://www.amazon.com/Surefire-Backup-Switch-Output-Flashlight/dp/B007S0L4FK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1454581395&sr=8-3&keywords=surefire+eb1) and EB2 (http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-Backup-Output-Flashlight-Switch/dp/B00E9YEBZ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454581352&sr=8-1&keywords=surefire+eb2), both with clicky switches. The EB2 is bored to accept 18650 cells, which saves me from burning through 123s. There is some up-front cost for the charger and batteries, but in the long run you will save money, especially if you like to start the day with a fully charged light without having to waste cash by discarding partially-depleted primary cells. The only weak point with the Backup series lights (and the E2D) is that the pocket clips break easily, but SF will replace them for free—I always like to keep an extra on hand so I don't have to wait a week or two for SF CS to get around to sending it out.

Another option out there is the new SF Sidekick (http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-Sidekick-300-Lumen-Ultra-Compact-Triple-Output/dp/B0177H4S5Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454581193&sr=8-1&keywords=surefire+sidekick). Neat light that I think is just about perfect for general utility purpose, though not what you want for "tactical" use. Key fob size, rechargeable via Micro USB, multi-mode (5/60/300lm).

[rob_s]

Foursevens is worth a look. They're as bright as the Surefire lights should be.


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Part of my issue with the non-Surefire brands (other than streamlight, as they've really improved of late) is that they cater too much to the flashlight geek market.

http://www.amazon.com/FOURSEVENS-Tactical-Finish-2XCR123A-Lumens/dp/B00915I3RW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454582665&sr=8-1&keywords=Foursevens+qtl

"The Quark series offers a staggering array of options, accessories and interchangeability."

WTF for? So far every China light I've bought or tried is only really staggering in its array of confusion. It's a light, for Christ's sake, what "options" do I need? At most a low/high, preferably with a switch that goes from low to high by increasing pressure on the tail cap switch. Strobing, SOS, 37 levels of brightness controlled by twisting the bezel like a 1987 Maglight.... No.

[overton]

I like the Quarks for the lego aspect. Nothing SureFire makes beats a quark qt2l-x head driven by one 14500 battery in terms of brightness and compactness.

[orionz06]

Part of my issue with the non-Surefire brands (other than streamlight, as they've really improved of late) is that they cater too much to the flashlight geek market.

http://www.amazon.com/FOURSEVENS-Tactical-Finish-2XCR123A-Lumens/dp/B00915I3RW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454582665&sr=8-1&keywords=Foursevens+qtl

"The Quark series offers a staggering array of options, accessories and interchangeability."

WTF for? So far every China light I've bought or tried is only really staggering in its array of confusion. It's a light, for Christ's sake, what "options" do I need? At most a low/high, preferably with a switch that goes from low to high by increasing pressure on the tail cap switch. Strobing, SOS, 37 levels of brightness controlled by twisting the bezel like a 1987 Maglight.... No.

They're surely capable of all that shit but set it and forget it. If you can operate a PC and not swear at it constantly you'll be fine. If you can't operate a PC maybe you just need an old Maglite. Mine is set to strobe and I twist the bezel for high, that's it.


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[rob_s]

They're surely capable of all that shit but set it and forget it. If you can operate a PC and not swear at it constantly you'll be fine. If you can't operate a PC maybe you just need an old Maglite. Mine is set to strobe and I twist the bezel for high, that's it.


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Why do I need even a PC-level of fiddle-fart with a friggin flashlight?

I'm still unclear on what any of these companies is doing, outside some need to play fiddle-fart with a tool that shouldn't require fiddle-fart, that Surefire and/or Streamlight aren't.

Or, is it like most things in this community, intentional anachronism as validation of specialness of one's snowflake and increasing the count of stars on one's belly?

Or, is it like the secondary commonality of everyone buying/planning/fiddle-farting for the 0.01% instead of the 99%?

[orionz06]

Then don't buy a Quark? They're not that difficult was my point. If you can't set the light to do what you want a light to do you got more problems than a forum can help with.


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[olstyn]

Then don't buy a Quark? They're not that difficult was my point.

Truly this. I set mine how I wanted it at initial purchase (bezel tight = strobe, bezel loose = high), and that's it. There is roughly zero complexity involved in daily use.

[joshs]

Why do I need even a PC-level of fiddle-fart with a friggin flashlight?

I'm still unclear on what any of these companies is doing, outside some need to play fiddle-fart with a tool that shouldn't require fiddle-fart, that Surefire and/or Streamlight aren't.

Or, is it like most things in this community, intentional anachronism as validation of specialness of one's snowflake and increasing the count of stars on one's belly?

Or, is it like the secondary commonality of everyone buying/planning/fiddle-farting for the 0.01% instead of the 99%?

Programmable flashlights allow manufacturers to make a small number of models that will fit all, or nearly all, user preferences.

I want a handheld flashlight UI to have at a minimum a high output momentary mode and a constant on low mode. orionz06 wants max output and strobe available. Because the FourSevens lights are programmable, we can both buy the same model of light and get what we want. If FourSevens had to make more models to meet user preferences, they likely wouldn't be able to keep their current price point.

Most flashlight buyers have very different wants than people who are buying flashlights that might also be used to support shooting a pistol. Manufacturers are just meeting demand for their largest segment of buyers by making multi-mode lights.

[orionz06]

I mean there are still people who buy cars with manual windows because they're simple...


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[taadski]

I'm not a "flashlight guy" but I've been using the same E1B as a pocket EDC light since they first came out. While it doesn't have all the functionality of some of the others mentioned, it's stupid simple, stupid durable and is small enough that it's always there in my pocket.

I really like the "two way" clip as it functions well on a pocket or can be pinched into "headlamp" use by putting it on the brim of a ball cap. I tweaked about 1/4" of the end of the pocket clip out to 90 degrees and it functions well as a make shift "ring" if you fancy a syringe type technique. It's minor enough a mod that it doesn't catch on much in my pocket and adds some functional capability. (How, btw, are you guys breaking these? They've been absolutely bomber IME)

I've been standardized on 123s across the board as I get em gratis at work so it jives there too. It's pretty darned near perfect for my needs. Although I might have to try the "tactical" model switchology a try at some stage.

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[CCT125US]

I carry the Microstream (28L) for my day to day activities such as looking into cubby holes and cabinets trying to ID part numbers. If I venture out onto Dastreatz, I will grab my Protac 2L (260L, strobe, 13L). My nightstand and dog walking flashlight is P2X Fury 15/600. My God, I just realized I have a carry rotation.....

[LSP972]

(How, btw, are you guys breaking these? They've been absolutely bomber IME)



Ditto. I too have been toting EDC the same E1B for going on three years now. Granted, I usually carry mine in a dedicated kydex scabbard, behind my extra magazine. I.e., I rarely use the clip. But the little bugger is tough; I've dropped it on hard surfaces a dozen times, it gets banged up at times while doing trajectory comparisons/graphs, and I even dropped it in the water tank once. When I heard it was being discontinued in favor of the EB1 (which doesn't impress me at all), I immediately ordered another E1B for a spare. It still sits in its unopened box, waiting.

I'll have to agree somewhat with rob_s regarding all the "features" on some lights. In fact, was just going through this a couple of hours ago with a colleague, who recently purchased some whiz-bang light from LA Police Supply that is supposed to be the cat's ass/go-to light for the budget-minded officer, etc., etc., ad nauseum. One 123A cell (yet its quite a bit longer than my E1B), nicely finished... and a real PITA to use. Because you cannot "set it up" to your preference. It has a fixed cycle, and that is that.

No sense moaning about it, though. There are a zillion different lights out there, and it doesn't take a whole lot of research to find one that does what you want it to. He bought this one on impulse, after looking at SureFire prices. I won't say that, in our ensuing discussion the word "cheapskate" was uttered... but he now certainly regrets being a tightwad...;)

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[BobLoblaw]

4Sevens Quark QT2L-X Gen 2 (http://www.foursevens.com/products/QK2L-X-AF-34) is now programmed from the factory and only gives you 2 options of your choosing.:( I grabbed another first gen before they were discontinued and picked up some rechargeable 16650s (http://www.amazon.com/Keeppower-2500mAh-Protected-Lithium-Battery/dp/B010EZ02B2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454612861&sr=8-1&keywords=16650+battery) and a VP2 (http://www.amazon.com/XTAR-VP2-Selectable-Current-Battery/dp/B00K88LH88/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_8?ie=UTF8&dpID=31z9-kcOjVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1MMWA08PPPV89AJJECQT)charger. The VP2 also has a USB port for draining batteries if you have other devices running low on juice.

[Mike C]

I was going to recommend the Streamlight microstream as well but just saw you wanted something more than that. What about the Surefire Titan Plus? I haven't used it but it says its got a 300 lumen high mode according to the amazon stats and its a rechargeable AAA.

Sure wish it could be had with a tail switch with just a high setting. Then it would be a perfect light.

[OnionsAndDragons]

I mean there are still people who buy cars with manual windows because they're simple...


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I'd pick manual windows every time if it were an option. But that's just because I hate tearing open panels to replace auto motors and tracks.


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[Paladin]

I just got an Olight s1 baton it takes 1 cr123 battery so it's very small and 500 lumen with high low and strobe. Activation is push button on the side. So far so good had it about a month.
Rick

[Sasage]

Protac 2L on high only, works great as an EDC light and on the job FF/EMT

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[Clay]

I just got an Olight s1 baton it takes 1 cr123 battery so it's very small and 500 lumen with high low and strobe. Activation is push button on the side. So far so good had it about a month.
Rick

Mine has been great. I've also had excellent luck with Nitecore, Jetstream, and FourSevens.

[davisj]

I carry an Elzetta Alpha with the high/low tail cap. It runs on one CR123 but it is made in the USA. Fully potted electronics and Lego-like modularity. I don't bash watermelons with mine but it's held up well. It isn't cheap but after going through three 4sevens due to various issues I'm happy with the purchase. And did I mention it's made in the USA?

http://www.elzetta.com/elzetta-alpha-1-cell-light-model-b113.html

[Casey]

(How, btw, are you guys breaking these? They've been absolutely bomber IME)
I think it's more an issue with the longer clips on the EB2/E2D/LX2. I've yet to break an EB1 clip, but I've been through several on my old LX2 and at least one on my curent EB2. For me, carried in my left pocket, they somehow get caught on the seat when getting into and out of my car. They don't break right away, but once they get bent open a little, they're sure to go soon.

[punkey71]

Protac 2L on high only, works great as an EDC light and on the job FF/EMT

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I use the same - Pro Tac 2L's. Bright, reliable and inexpensive.

I certainly appreciate the robust nature and proven record of Surefire and other high end lights. However, between work and EDC I seem to lose them after a couple years. How? Wish I knew.

The only downside of the Streamlight Pro Tac's are the clip that comes off the light body too easily.

This locks it on for a couple pennies and makes it perfect for my needs.

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[Sasage]

I use the same - Pro Tac 2L's. Bright, reliable and inexpensive.

I certainly appreciate the robust nature and proven record of Surefire and other high end lights. However, between work and EDC I seem to lose them after a couple years. How? Wish I knew.

The only downside of the Streamlight Pro Tac's are the clip that comes off the light body too easily.

This locks it on for a couple pennies and makes it perfect for my needs.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160207/d34501ec308c89d4b8dd89db4021e92a.jpg





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Looks exactly like mine. Except I have a black zip tie :-)

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[punkey71]

Looks exactly like mine. Except I have a black zip tie :-)

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Black zip ties?

Tactical! :-)


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[taadski]

I think it's more an issue with the longer clips on the EB2/E2D/LX2. I've yet to break an EB1 clip, but I've been through several on my old LX2 and at least one on my curent EB2. For me, carried in my left pocket, they somehow get caught on the seat when getting into and out of my car. They don't break right away, but once they get bent open a little, they're sure to go soon.

That makes sense. Thx.

[UNK]

I think they will program it for an additional 10.00 to your specifications.

There are a lot of stories of Chinese flashlights puking after a couple of years worth of use. I have a 60 lumen Surefire xenon still chugging along. So dollar for dollar, assuming a person is not a lumen junkie, Surefire seems to be the best bet.


4Sevens Quark QT2L-X Gen 2 (http://www.foursevens.com/products/QK2L-X-AF-34) is now programmed from the factory and only gives you 2 options of your choosing.:( I grabbed another first gen before they were discontinued and picked up some rechargeable 16650s (http://www.amazon.com/Keeppower-2500mAh-Protected-Lithium-Battery/dp/B010EZ02B2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454612861&sr=8-1&keywords=16650+battery) and a VP2 (http://www.amazon.com/XTAR-VP2-Selectable-Current-Battery/dp/B00K88LH88/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_8?ie=UTF8&dpID=31z9-kcOjVL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1MMWA08PPPV89AJJECQT)charger. The VP2 also has a USB port for draining batteries if you have other devices running low on juice.

[rob_s]

Truly this. I set mine how I wanted it at initial purchase (bezel tight = strobe, bezel loose = high), and that's it. There is roughly zero complexity involved in daily use.

Simply having to turn the bezel for the two modes is one greater complexities than I am interested in.

[BobLoblaw]

I think they will program it for an additional 10.00 to your specifications.

There are a lot of stories of Chinese flashlights puking after a couple of years worth of use. I have a 60 lumen Surefire xenon still chugging along. So dollar for dollar, assuming a person is not a lumen junkie, Surefire seems to be the best bet.

They will but now the activation is the same as all other dual mode lights (i.e. no more twisty head). Click once for first mode, click off and back on for second mode. That's a big bummer IMO. I have an LX2 that I like a lot but it's bigger, heavier, and not even half as powerful (not to mention the weak clip design). If my Quark breaks, I'll use the backup Quark. If the backup breaks, by then SF will likely have caught up in the lumen dept.

[orionz06]

Simply having to turn the bezel for the two modes is one greater complexities than I am interested in.

Are you cool with having to change batteries and press a button to turn it on?


Fuck, it's a wonder you like semi autos because you gotta load the mags.


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[secondstoryguy]

I stick with Surefire and Streamlight for most everything. They seem to be a bit more consistent than some of the off brands. I have a Protac 2L that I have been using at work as a back-up light and off duty. I like it a lot and for the money it's the best thing I've found. The other light that I've had for a while is a VTAC branded Surefire 1 cell that keeps chugging a long.

[TGS]

Simply having to turn the bezel for the two modes is one greater complexities than I am interested in.

That's great to hear, your mother must be very proud.

[GuanoLoco]

For EDC, I finally settled on a Streamlight ProTac 1L.

I tried a bunch of lights. Most were either not bright enough, or too large to carry all the time. The ProTac1L is plenty bright at 180 lumens, and in the nice little holster it comes with, it fits perfectly behind my spare mags on my weak side.

I've had lots of luck with Streamlight products, and at less than $40 it's a great deal.

This - I have a pair of PT1L (http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88030-Tactical-Flashlight-Includes/dp/B003GXF9MW)'s, one I've carried for years. Inexpensive, reliable workhorses.

Pic from interwebs:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-opE5ZAyODhc/UwFdveABkiI/AAAAAAAAAK0/3GmFMZdc6nA/s1600/DSC07522.JPG

Plus this: Proctor Light Mount. Steel mount is very small and light.

http://soldiersystems.net/2015/02/19/proctor-light-mount/

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_8627.jpg

[orionz06]

Are there any long term or high round count reports on that Proctor mount?

[GuanoLoco]

I put mine on after my last set of classes and have been focused on pistols since so no data point here.

[Stephanie B]

I've a shirttail nephew who is an infantryman. He said that he and his buddies ended up using the single-AA battery flashlights that one can get from Amazon for $3 to $6 or so.

They work, the batteries are inexpensive and if one gets dropped lost or "borrowed", it's no big deal.

I bought these and gave some away as gifts.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01149T7CW/ (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01149T7CW/) (but they were a pack of six, then).

[disseminator]

I use my EDC flashlight everyday and I can't see paying the price for those Surefire lights. If my life depended on my light sure, but otherwise you can buy literally bunches of lights for the price of one of the Surefire's.

This is my EDC that I have carried for about a year now. Everyday. I drop it on concrete, submerge it in water, and just generally beat the crap out of it. It has been perfect.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I14HLLS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s02

I do use the Ni-MH rechargeable AA which make the light run forever on a single charge.

I like this light because it is very simple to use and is very bright too. I rarely need to use it's high setting in day to day. In my work I am in a lot of Mechanical areas of buildings and pipe chases and such where if the lights go out I am in total blackness. I never worry with this light in my EDC.

Just saying....

[Josh Runkle]

SureFire EB1, rather than E1B here. You can find them just as cheap on Amazon (about $110-$130 if you look around at different sellers) and they are a higher output. I've put them through hell. Turned on and friend dropped it in the lake. We "dove towards the glow" for an hour before we retrieved it. Washed it in the sink without disassembling. Works fine today. Have taken it out to do a ton of SAR work through freezing water, in snow, extreme heat and humidity, slept in extreme cold with it...I own and have tested quark, foursevens and fenix, and trust me, they're not even similar. They never keep chugging along after the battery's been on for an hour, they don't do as well in extreme environments, a few of them (and some of the streamlights too) have battery compartments where the batteries rattle as you walk...

I also run the EB1 on all of my rifles. It's great for CQB and anything all the way out to about 100 yards, but no further. Perfect for home defense.

Just bought an EB2 and am currently testing, but liking so far.

Going to test a PX3 fury soon, for a long while. But not for typical EDC, just for professional EDC in the context of EMS and SAR...and maybe mounting one on a long gun to see what the whiteout effect is for fun.

I will however endorse 3 low output lights:

ThorFire PF01: $6. Best for medical professionals. Penlight setting, high output (130 lumens), low output (15). Shoddy construction, but you can buy a ton of them, just like penlights, but they give you more options, and actually work decently and are very compact. AAA battery.

5.11 TMT P1: $15. 22 lumens, really small, light and rugged and keeps chugging along. About the size of a tube of Chapstick. AAA Battery.

Streamlight Protac 88049: $35. Still small, but slightly larger than the last two. 70 lumens. Light for it's size, well constructed. AAA battery.

I want to test the new SureFire Keychain light.

[htomeheb]

Another vote for the Quark lights.

Been beating on my QT2L-X since 2012 now. It's been dropped, thrown, submerged, you name it.

Does what I need, takes a beating, didn't cost much in the first place.

[cjb1911]

Has anyone tried the SL ProTac Usb? I like the idea of being able to recharge the whole light instead of taking the batteries out.

[Cool Breeze]

I carry either a foursevens Preon2, Preon1, or Fenix E05. I like them all. I don't like the UI of the new Preons but the old preons are on clearance on the foursevens website. Great price.

[Painkiller7]

Vinh Nguyen at candlepowerforums mods lights. I don't have one from him yet, but his work gets high praises. There several categories he has, one being edc lights. He'll even show beamshots and comparisons. Based on his sight and my own research it can be a huge improvement. I profit from this in no way. I'm just a big light guy and research alot.

[23JAZ]

Suggested to my employer that all Quality Assurance personnel have their flashlights upgraded. This is our new flash light with unlimited batteries! I love it when a plan comes together!
Streamlight Pro-Tac 2L (with zip tie mod of course)!
https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6126&stc=1

[Nephrology]

I have a Streamlight PT2L and a PT2AA and love them both.

[LOKNLOD]

This - I have a pair of PT1L (http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88030-Tactical-Flashlight-Includes/dp/B003GXF9MW)'s, one I've carried for years. Inexpensive, reliable workhorses.

Pic from interwebs:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-opE5ZAyODhc/UwFdveABkiI/AAAAAAAAAK0/3GmFMZdc6nA/s1600/DSC07522.JPG

Plus this: Proctor Light Mount. Steel mount is very small and light.

http://soldiersystems.net/2015/02/19/proctor-light-mount/

http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/IMG_8627.jpg

+1. The PT1L has been my Edc light for over 5 years now I think. The only complaint I've had is the clip coming off occasionally if it gets in a bind.

I also run one in a proctor mount on my sbr. I don't have a high round count on it, but it did survive a run-n-gun event.

[punkey71]

The only complaint I've had is the clip coming off occasionally if it gets in a bind.

Solution for the clip coming off. Cheap and easy.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160225/f1be896c7a741bbaca2b289e293767bb.jpg


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[BillSWPA]

While not made in the US, I have been quite happy with my Klarus XT2C and Terralux TT1-EX. The former runs on a single 18650 (but can use 2 CR123), the latter on a single CR123. Both make high and strobe instantly available from the tail switch, and both provide medium and low modes for all those times when preserving battery life is more helpful than blinding lumens.

For about a 15 year period, I carried a Surefire every day. Increasing prices and disappointing user interfaces led me to look elsewhere. If I am looking for someone who might mean me harm if I find him, I don't want 5 lumens when I am counting on 200 lumens. Both my E2DL and my former EB1T have user interfaces that carry this risk. I understand, but cannot confirm from personal experience, that the firmware issue with the original EB1T has been corrected so more recent iterations do not carry this risk, but this is exactly the sort of thing I was paying Surefire prices to avoid.

My FourSevens, Klarus, and Terralux lights have all been subjected to unintentional impact resistance tests with no ill effects.

[RMF]

I just happened to have purchased a Klarus XT2C today; it seems very well built and outputs a vast amount of lumens for its size. What I really like best about the Klarus XTC is the simple intuitive interface: one button high bright, one button strobe. Simple and it works.

[WobblyPossum]

A related question, as I us a Klarus XT2C as my go-to light, what 18650 batteries are people using? I've browsed Amazon, but I see a lot of reviews talking about counterfeit batteries or used/recycled batteries relabeled as new, etc. What's a safe purchase that won't blow up my light and set my pants on fire?


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[Ntexwheels]

This has proven itself to me to be reliable and puts out a lot of light. Rated at 200 Lumens, using 2 triple A batteries, made by Browning.
Photo with pen for size comparison.

[BillSWPA]

A related question, as I us a Klarus XT2C as my go-to light, what 18650 batteries are people using? I've browsed Amazon, but I see a lot of reviews talking about counterfeit batteries or used/recycled batteries relabeled as new, etc. What's a safe purchase that won't blow up my light and set my pants on fire?


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The critical thing is to get made in USA or made in Japan underlying cells. Numerous companies are buying Panasonic or Sanyo cells, adding protection circuits, and over wrapping the whole package. Buy from a reputable dealer. Illum and Going Gear are good sources, among others.

I am using Eagletac 3400 mAh cells for mine. They are expensive but use Panasonic underlying cells, and work quite well. I have also found Keeppower to work well. AW has a good reputation. There are other good ones as well.

Stay away from anything that ends in "fire" and doesn't begin with "Sure."

Also make sure you have a good charger that will monitor individual cells independently, and charge each independently. Numerous good choices exist.

You also need to be careful to get made in USA or made in Japan CR123, particularly if using them in a device that takes more than one.

[Hizzie]

Malkoff Devices offers their MDC in 1xAA and 2xAA configurations.

[BillSWPA]

I own two Malkoff dropins for my Surefire Z series lights, and one conversion head for my E2E. Malkoff makes a solid product, and Gene Malkoff is highly thought of among flashlight enthusiats.

In my experience the rule that you get what you pay for almost always applies when going from low priced products to mid priced products. However, when going from mid priced products to high priced products, you often do not get what you pay for in terms of performance, but only get what you pay for if you are looking for other qualities as well. Regarding flashlights, I think Malkoff lights represent the approximate high end of where "getting what you pay for" holds true.

[CSW]

While I tend to recommend higher end lights, I've been getting a LOT of mileage lately out of a Streamlight Microstream and a Stylus Pro.

Both are AAA battery lights, the Micro is single battery, the Pro is double battery.

I'll echo this...

Been carrying a Microstream for close to two years now. Sits in the pocket with everything else, very light, very brite for a single trip A.

Been thinking of upgrading to this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00396S1Q2/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=LPM3T0FX8RK6&coliid=I1LTDARI0W3N2M&psc=1

But honestly, as a EDC work light, the Micro does well.

[RJ]

For EDC, I finally settled on a Streamlight ProTac 1L.

I tried a bunch of lights. Most were either not bright enough, or too large to carry all the time. The ProTac1L is plenty bright at 180 lumens, and in the nice little holster it comes with, it fits perfectly behind my spare mags on my weak side.

I've had lots of luck with Streamlight products, and at less than $40 it's a great deal.

Just to come back to this thread, I finally saw a Streamlight ProTac 1L at a retail store. I liked the look of it, so I ordered it on Amazon ($41.12, with tax, but free 2 day Prime delivery.)

I really like it for EDC; it's about the same size as my mini-griptilian. One CR123 gives a solid 180 lumens.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160406/59cf33bf5a9a3a0871e3a7920eba5f82.jpg

[VolGrad]

I carried the same MicroStream for years and years loose in my pocket. It still works great but I received a Fenix E05 as a gift for Christmas and it replaced my MicroStream simply because it had waaaaaay more lumens in a slightly smaller package. The newer MicroStreams are brighter than my old one. They are fantastic lights for general EDC use.

I had a Streamlight ProTac 1L for a while as well. It was a great light but I had just gotten so used to the smaller MicroStream and Fenix that I let it go. I didn't need anything that bright for general use so the extra space it took up wasn't worth it to me.

[mrozowjj]

If you want the most light you can get in the smallest package you can get you should be looking at lights that run off a 18650 battery. Unlike AA or AAA alkaline batteries 18650 allows for a consistent voltage level that allows the light to run very bright and very long. Yes the batteries are more expensive up front but they are rechargeable and can be charged many many times.

You can get an Olight S30R Javelot that comes with battery, charging stand, etc for about $70 that is 5 inches long and a little over an inch in diameter and it will put out 900 lumens for 3 minutes before it steps down to 500 lumens for 90 minutes. On moonlight mode it will output 1 lumen for 38 days... not hours days. It also has a magnet on the bottom that will let you stick it to things, though if it's anything like the magnet on my Olight S20R it's not very strong and not ideal all things considered.

Or you can get a Zebralight SC63 that puts out 1300 lumens for 2 hours and is 0.95 inches in diameter and about 3.75 inches long for $85 and has a low moonlight mode that puts out 0.5 lumen and will run for 2.8 months. There's a 0.01 lumen mode that will run for 7 months.

I personally have an my Eagletac DX30LC, it is about 5 inches long and 0.9 inches in diameter. It will put out about 1000 lumens for 1.5 hours and about 20,000 candela which means it will throw the beam about 300 yards. It has a momentary function and always starts in the turbo mode. It is absurdly awesome and about $70 so you'd need to get some 18650 batteries (about $10) and a charger (probably about another $20) assuming you don't already have one. The good news is in a pinch you can use 2 CR123A batteries. So assuming you are running out of the house or you are camping and your battery dies you can plug in 2 disposable CR123A and it will still work just not as long.

7130

Assuming you do not want to get a battery charger and such you can also buy the Eagletac DX30LC2-R which is the same light but it has a build in battery charger and comes with a battery and a cable to charge it. It's 0.2 inches longer and about $100.

[VolGrad]

Looked around and found info still have a Fenix that's the size of the ProTac1L. I rarely carry it though - usually only when I actually expect I will need a light.

I have a couple of the most get Streamlight double battery Stylus lights - one in each car.


EDIT - Funny story of why I always make sure I have a good/bright light at least in the car I'm driving.

A couple of years ago we were staying in my parent's cabin in the Smokies. It sits on top of a mountain and the drive is about a mile and a half long - and about a minute wide. There was snow and ice covering the drive and I was driving the wife's 2WD Ford Expedition. We made it about 2/3 of the way up before losing traction and unable to proceed any further. We had to walk up the rest of the drive in the dark carrying a couple of hot pizzas. There was moonlight through the trees but not much. All I had was the MicroStream (old low output version) to see by. I mean it worked but I sure would have liked to have some good light to use to see the frequent bear visitors by. When we got home I bought a few Streamlights to put in each car and upgraded some other home use flashlights.

[shootist26]

Protac 1L. New ones are programmable and I switched it to High output only.

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[johnson]

I started looking for an EDC/inspection light for work and came across the LUMINTOP IYP365 (In Your Pocket, 365 days) on CPF which is a 2xAAA pen light. They did a marketing campaign where they sent a free/discounted light to users in exchange for a review so although pretty much all the reviews are positive, I don't believe there's any bias since you only needed to send LUMINTOP a link after it was posted whether it be on YouTube or on a forum.

I just purchased the Nichia 219BT version earlier today for $20.71 shipped after using a 20% off coupon. It's "only" 125 lumens (bare LED) compared to the 200 lumen Cree X5-G2 LED because I absolutely hate cool white or bluish tint flashlights and prefer "warmer" colors similar to incandescent lights for better color rendition when used outdoors.


And you can buy it at a 20% discount through their amazon store using coupon code: L3P6KDLJ

http://amzn.to/2421r4t (https://www.amazon.com/s?marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&merchant=APBANPW02FVGU)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j91SsiZaMyY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFWWJGzMMIE

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?421084-Review-Lumintop-IYP365

[RJ]

Protac 1L. New ones are programmable and I switched it to High output only.

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I clip a Protac 1L CR123A light to my weak side pocket every day. Love that little light.

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88030-Tactical-Flashlight-Lithium/dp/B003GXF9MW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469146672&sr=8-1&keywords=streamlight+pro+tac+1l

[johnson]

I got the LUMINTOP IYP365 today and initial impressions are good. There is no momentary on function but once it's on you only need to barely press it to get to the next mode (med-low-high). The switch is fairly short...I'd say about 1.5 mm of travel. The spring feels pretty stout so I doubt it will accidentally get turned on even if it wasn't clipped in a pocket. I don't have any first hand experience with any other pen style lights but this might be the perfect EDC light (non tactical) for me because of the size and high CRI emitter.

Compared to my EDC pen.

http://i.imgur.com/lO4fPav.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oOluplt.jpg

[JCS]

Protac 1L. New ones are programmable and I switched it to High output only.

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How do you switch to high only?

I picked one of these up a couple months ago and love it. I can't speak for it as a tactical flashlight but for an edc flashlight it's great. One thing that drew me to it was the pocket clip. I don't want 2-3 inches of flashlight Hanging out my pocket




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[johnson]

How do you switch to high only?

I picked one of these up a couple months ago and love it. I can't speak for it as a tactical flashlight but for an edc flashlight it's great. One thing that drew me to it was the pocket clip. I don't want 2-3 inches of flashlight Hanging out my pocket




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http://www.streamlight.com/static/document/product_instructions/protac-1l_2l_op_inst.pdf

[APS-PF]

I clip a Protac 1L CR123A light to my weak side pocket every day. Love that little light.

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88030-Tactical-Flashlight-Lithium/dp/B003GXF9MW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469146672&sr=8-1&keywords=streamlight+pro+tac+1l

I was recently looking for a single cell, clip-able light with minimum modes and found a new version of this light called the 1L-1AA. It takes 1 CR123 (not rated for rechargeables) or 1 AA. You can program it for low/high/strobe, High only, low/high.

[JCS]

http://www.streamlight.com/static/document/product_instructions/protac-1l_2l_op_inst.pdf

Thanks for this!


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[Duelist]

My EDC light fo years was an original Surefire G2 Nitrolon. I switched the 60 lumens incandescent head for a 150 lumens LED eventually. I bought another with a 180 lumens LED head for my wife, and we were set. Last year, I gave mine to my daughter when I was about to drop her off at the university. I taught her to use it as a striking and blinding tool, and she carries it in her hand when walking at night.

First time in years I went light shopping. I'd tried a streamlight micro stream for a bit b/c it was so much smaller than the G2, and cheap, but it never worked right, the tail switch sucks, and the battery is always dead when I go to mess around with it. I had an o ring on the G2 die after ten years, and called to order a new one. They sent me a new tail switch assembly and 3 o rings. For free. For a ten year old light. I had a very different experience with streamlight CS, and I'll stop there.

So, candlepower.net was fun to find. I ended up with a Fenix UL35 that I really like, and a NOS Surefire 6P incandescent that I swapped the head out for a 300+ LED. The 6P is perfect for my pocket, though admittedly a bit bulky, because it's big enough and bright enough to use as a light, blinding tool, or striking implement (work in a gun-free school zone). The Fenix has so many light levels, it is useful is a dog-walking light that doesn't blind me, as a floodlight, as an impromptu photography light, etc. It recharges through an integral USB port. Longer and heavier than the 6P or G2, it rides in my iPad case. It can run off the rechargeable cell it came with, or CR123. Charges last forever on the lower settings.

[senorlechero]

I've been carrying a Surefire EAG Fury with a RCS pocket clip. Combined with a Photon keychain light I'm covered. I have to change batteries in the SF maybe 4 times a year.

[johnson]

There are some NOS FourSevens Quark QTA (AA) and QTL (CR123A) on eBay for $20-$22 if anyone's interested. I just purchased a QTL as a secondary/backup to the pen light and will probably set it to Turbo/Moonlight for the modes.

AA is more convenient but I go through so few batteries that it doesn't matter.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOURSEVENS-Quark-Tactical-QTA-Flashlight-/232014353026?hash=item3605221282

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOURSEVENS-Quark-Tactical-QTL-Flashlight-/232024247620?hash=item3605b90d44


This is at least 2 years old.

http://i.imgur.com/ka9YUJr.jpg?2

[pr1042]

I switched from the Streamlight ProTac 2l to the Quark QP2L-X a few years ago before the Surefire lawsuit shut them down. It's a 2 CR123A light but gives you 780 lumens in burst mode (drops down to 300-400 after the first minute) and then an option for another lumen setting by twisting the head.

No brainer for me at $25 so I just picked up 3. Thanks for the links in the above thread to remind me

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOURSEVENS-Quark-Pro-QP2L-X-Flashlight-/232014370347?hash=item360522562b:g:JcwAAOSw0fhXiU7-

[Jeff S.]

SF may have fixed the issue, but a number of other people reported the same problem with the EB1T on Candle Power Forums. It worked out for me anyways because my frustration with the EB1T UI led me to impulse buy an HDS Systems EDC Rotary Tactical, which is the perfect flashlight for me.

Huge fan of HDS Systems. I love that you can buy them in high CRI. I bought an Executive w/ Nichia 219a on sale right when they switched over to the 219b. It's a great light, and definitely my most used EDC gear.

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[Casey]

Earlier in this thread I talked about my love of the SureFire EB1 and EB2 as EDC lights. The EB1 is nice and compact, a great pocket light for when you don't expect to need a light, but it is only 200 lumens. This is what I usually carry during the daytime when I don't plan to be out after dark.

The EB2 steps up output to 500lm on high, 5lm low. Unfortunately, this light does not like rechargeables—if you haven't used the light in a while, the first time you depress the switch, it briefly activates in high mode, then flickers to low, requiring you to release and re-activate the light to get max output, which isn't exactly ideal from a defensive standpoint. Another strike against the EB2 is the inclusion of the two-way pocket clip, a holdover from the days of the LX2, which is notorious for breaking way too easily.

I think I've finally found something better. Enter the Malkoff Devices M61HOT MD2 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-led-flashlights/products/m61hot-md2) with high/low option. This is the high output version of the M61 head with 500lm high, 5lm low. This model incorporates a massive improvement over Malkoff's original high/low tailcap switch, which would not reset to the default output level unless you kept the light on for at least one second every time you depressed the switch. This could be irritating if you flashed the light briefly then stuck it back in your pocket, as the next time you grabbed your light it would have advanced to the next lowest mode rather than reset to high. The MD2 now switches from high to low by loosening the bezel one quarter turn. Genius. No longer do you have to worry about what mode the light is going to come on in. Leave it in high and it always comes on in high—and only high—when the tailcap switch is activated. Doing ninja stuff and want low mode to avoid giving away your position? No need to flash the light from high to low with the tailcap, just twist the bezel and the light goes directly to low mode.

The light also comes bored from Malkoff to accept even the fattest of 18650 cells. The EB-series body was nice and slim, and fairly unobtrusive, but this meant compromising and being limited to narrow, unprotected 3000mAh cells. The MD2 easily swallows 3400mAh protected rechargeables, which means a safer light plus greater run-time.

Did I mention that the tailcap clicky switch is recessed? Not so much that it's difficult to activate, but just enough to prevent light NDs when the thing is in your pocket.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/923/2vPgdF.jpg

Speaking of pockets, the MD2 just so happens to be compatible with most pocket clips designed for SF P-series lights, like the titanium clip from Prometheus Lights (http://www.darksucks.com/store%20ds_sfclip.html) shown above. The tailcap is rather long, though, which means that an excessive amount of the light ends up hanging out of your pocket. Fortunately, the tailcap of the light is thick enough to support drilling and tapping for an aftermarket clip; I've got one of Don McLeish's sweet Ti clips (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?323373-Pocket-clip-amp-new-option) on the way to me now, and once that's installed I think I will have found the perfect light for me. (Picture below is not mine, but illustrates what the finished product should look like.)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/CcG5ro.jpg

Like the EB-series, the MD2 comes with a TIR lens, but the MD2 has a bit bigger hotspot, and the color temperature is a brilliant white compared to the yellowish tint of the EB1 and EB2.

The only downside? It's heavy. 6.25oz/180g compared to 4.38oz/125g for the EB2. Worth it.

Now if only Gene would release this thing in a cool guy FDE finish...

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/924/J4yOhV.jpg

From left to right: SureFire EB1, EB2, Malkoff M61HOT MD2, SureFire 6PX Pro.

[johnson]

Update on my LUMINTOP IYP365

The switch went out today only after 10 days of ownership. Pretty disappointed because I liked everything about it.

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Update on my LUMINTOP IYP365

The switch went out today only after 10 days of ownership. Pretty disappointed because I liked everything about it.

Geez Johnson hate to hear that.

Mine arrives tomorrow so keep us updated on your solution/options for repair.

[johnson]

I initiated a return on Amazon and will send it back this week.

Could be a fluke...who knows? I have another one that's BNIB that was going to be a gift but may end up using it. One of the guys on CPF said he actuated his over 500 times with no issues. I'm sure I had less than 100 on mine.

[johnson]

I switched from the Streamlight ProTac 2l to the Quark QP2L-X a few years ago before the Surefire lawsuit shut them down. It's a 2 CR123A light but gives you 780 lumens in burst mode (drops down to 300-400 after the first minute) and then an option for another lumen setting by twisting the head.

No brainer for me at $25 so I just picked up 3. Thanks for the links in the above thread to remind me

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOURSEVENS-Quark-Pro-QP2L-X-Flashlight-/232014370347?hash=item360522562b:g:JcwAAOSw0fhXiU7-

Have you tried the QP2L-X head on a 1xCR123A body? I'm wondering how bright of a burst mode you can get on one cell (even with a shorter run time) since they list a voltage range of 3V-9V.

I just got the QTL today and am impressed so far for ~$26. My palm slightly extends past the bezel and blocks out some light on the outer edge because of the 3.2" OAL but it's not too bad. Around 3.5" would be perfect. The only other negative I see so far is that the tint is green compared to the IYP365 with Nichia 219BT emitter so it's probably horrendous outdoors.

edit: I just noticed that if going directly from high (head tightened) to low (head loosened), the light will pre flash on high before the low setting upon first turning on. It doesn't seem to happen on subsequent uses.

[BillSWPA]

Have you tried the QP2L-X head on a 1xCR123A body? I'm wondering how bright of a burst mode you can get on one cell (even with a shorter run time) since they list a voltage range of 3V-9V.

I just got the QTL today and am impressed so far for ~$26. My palm slightly extends past the bezel and blocks out some light on the outer edge because of the 3.2" OAL but it's not too bad. Around 3.5" would be perfect. The only other negative I see so far is that the tint is green compared to the IYP365 with Nichia 219BT emitter so it's probably horrendous outdoors.

edit: I just noticed that if going directly from high (head tightened) to low (head loosened), the light will pre flash on high before the low setting upon first turning on. It doesn't seem to happen on subsequent uses.

To use the 2 cell head with a 1 cell body, you will need an RCR123, or a 1AA body with a 14500. Runtime is short, by the result is a tiny, powerful package. FourSevens occasionally sold similar combinations.

[johnson]

Thanks. I just messaged the seller asking if they can bundle a QP2L-X head with an AA body instead buying two separate lights.

[johnson]

I ordered a QTA and QT2A-X over the weekend and may be doing some lego-ing. Foursevens has the original QT2L-X head for $45 on their site and I can either use it on the QTA body with a 14500 or get a 2xCR123 body and have a complete QT2L-X. I'm undecided since the 2xCR123 is only 0.7" longer but gives you better run time for that trade off.

Here's the config that Bill was talking about.

http://i.imgur.com/uCck5Ah.png

http://i.imgur.com/ZMsHfD2.png

And a previous thread about the same thing.

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?14141-4Sevens-Quark-QTA-Initial-Impressions

https://exigentcircumstance.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/modifying-the-foursevens-qt2a-x-for-daily-carry-the-quark-tactical-exigent-circumstances-edition/

[BobLoblaw]

The QT2L-X is much better. I had originally set mine up to run on 14500s and 14505s but was having dimming issues. Put it back with the original body and inserted 17670s (eventually upgrading to the 16650s) and all is well.

Mine run better as is, the size difference is minimal, and the run times are significantly different.

[punkey71]

Grabbed a couple QP2L-X's.

Help me out here - any way to run a rechargeable single cell like 18650's?

The more I read the more I see that only some 2 CR123 lights can run rechargeables.

Any help/recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.


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[BobLoblaw]

Grabbed a couple QP2L-X's.

Help me out here - any way to run a rechargeable single cell like 18650's?

The more I read the more I see that only some 2 CR123 lights can run rechargeables.

Any help/recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.


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16650s are rechargeable 2500 mAh single cells

[BillSWPA]

Grabbed a couple QP2L-X's.

Help me out here - any way to run a rechargeable single cell like 18650's?

The more I read the more I see that only some 2 CR123 lights can run rechargeables.

Any help/recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.


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That light will run on a Keeppower 16650. It is 2 mm smaller in diameter than an 18650.

In general, you need to check both the diameter of the tube as well as the voltage range of the light if it does not specify a type of Li-Ion that it can use.

[punkey71]

Thanks guys. After doing more digging I realized the relationship with the number and the size.

Looking at the mentioned Keepower 16650 and charger to replace CR123s in these lights.

Thanks again


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[drummer]

My experience with Chinese lights is that they are going to break at some point and I dont want it to be while I need a light.

A few years ago I bit the bullet and bought a HDS rotary. The ability to go from .1 to 200 lumens in an instant while keeping the simple press activation is priceless to me. I carry it in my pocket everyday and use ut as a backup on duty. The little thing is bomb proof.

I use rechargeable batteries and have been using the same two for years now. Theyve had a siginficant price increase since I bought mine but id buy another one if I lost mine today as theres nothing else with its capabilities thats as elegant of a solution.

The Surefires with "tactical" switching are my distant second choice, the ones with press for low and press harder for high output.

[martin_j001]

The QT2L-X is much better. I had originally set mine up to run on 14500s and 14505s but was having dimming issues. Put it back with the original body and inserted 17670s (eventually upgrading to the 16650s) and all is well.

Mine run better as is, the size difference is minimal, and the run times are significantly different.

Any idea how much more runtime you're seeing. My "Noisy Cricket" is one of my favorite lights, the only downside being the shortened runtime. And what 16650 are you using? I see FourSevens has the 2x CR123 body for cheap, I may snag one and lego this setup together...

[BobLoblaw]

Any idea how much more runtime you're seeing. My "Noisy Cricket" is one of my favorite lights, the only downside being the shortened runtime. And what 16650 are you using? I see FourSevens has the 2x CR123 body for cheap, I may snag one and lego this setup together...

I haven't done any real testing but AW R14500 lists its capacity at 750 mAh and Keeppower 16650 lists its capacity at 2500 mAh. 3x the runtime sounds about right with daily usage.

ETA: The biggest downside about the light is most noticeable when you inadvertently turn it on while it's in your pocket. It will fry your ass.

[martin_j001]

I haven't done any real testing but AW R14500 lists its capacity at 750 mAh and Keeppower 16650 lists its capacity at 2500 mAh. 3x the runtime sounds about right with daily usage.

ETA: The biggest downside about the light is most noticeable when you inadvertently turn it on while it's in your pocket. It will fry your ass.

Makes sense. And yeah, I've done that a few times with different lights. My pd35 was quite noticeable rather quickly, even though I was outside and it was 90+ degrees that day...

[Blades]

Has anyone else tried MecArmy? I have the MecArmy PT16 I purchased in June. Small, and easy to use. Micro USB rechargeable so while sitting at work I plug it in. Easy access to low(tap once), high(tap twice) and strobe(tap three times) with the one button. No clip, but I carry my light IWB on a lanyard. It is a wee little thing, but with the three LED's puts out a wide beam with good throw. The button is easier to push then I would like, only thing I can complain about.
http://i1090.photobucket.com/albums/i368/JasonAP/Mobile%20Uploads/2e5677a9-6442-401b-bccf-c81c75f5e131_zpsgf5uxmie.jpg (http://s1090.photobucket.com/user/JasonAP/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2e5677a9-6442-401b-bccf-c81c75f5e131_zpsgf5uxmie.jpg.html)

[Kyle Reese]

Just ordered a ProTac 1L for off-duty use/carry.

[Imaposer2]

What's the general consensus on the ProTac 1L-1AA? I really think I'd like the battery flexibility aspect, if there's nothing about the light to otherwise not like...

[Imaposer2]

I carried the same MicroStream for years and years loose in my pocket. It still works great but I received a Fenix E05 as a gift for Christmas and it replaced my MicroStream simply because it had waaaaaay more lumens in a slightly smaller package. The newer MicroStreams are brighter than my old one. They are fantastic lights for general EDC use.

I had a Streamlight ProTac 1L for a while as well. It was a great light but I had just gotten so used to the smaller MicroStream and Fenix that I let it go. I didn't need anything that bright for general use so the extra space it took up wasn't worth it to me.

I have both the Fenix E05 and a MicroStream. My MicroStream is one of the newer ones that's rated at 45 lumens. The Fenix is rated at 85 lumens. With brand new batteries in both (Energizer Max AAA) I can't tell an appreciable difference in useable brightness. Maybe just a little if I look REAL close, side by side, but in real world application I'd rate them about the same to my eyes.

The Fenix does have three settings though and I can see the lowest setting being useful for certain applications like reading a map or a menu in a dimly lit restaurant for example. The Microstream has but one level. Then again, the Microstream is simple to operate with a simple forward clicky tail switch whereas the Fenix has the bezel twist switching that requires you to cycle through low, medium and high outputs and always starts out on low. This can be good or bad depending on your tastes and needs.

Diameters are similar with the Fenix being shorter by about 3/4" so it's skinnier and about the same length as a tube of chapstick. It comes with a split ring but no pocket clip so it's pretty much either on a keychain or just loose in pocket carry. Loose in the pocket isn't too bad I guess. But, the Microstream has a decent pocket clip and fits well right behind my EDC knife clipped to the rear corner of my right pocket. Doesn't get in the way but is always handy without digging through all the crap I tend to accumulate in my pockets. I forget it's there but it's always handy. The Microstream's unique pocket clip also allows it to be clipped to the bill of a cap and used as an impromptu headlight if needed.

Overall they're both decent little lights for their niche, but for my wants the Microstream is the most practical as my "always there" EDC light. It's not a tactical light, and I don't have a specific application for it. I see it as similar to my Kershaw Scallion... small, light, always there and does 95% of what I need a knife or light to do day to day. For 20 bucks it's a handy little tool that's hard to beat.

I also have a Quark QP2L-X. Yeah, it's pretty bright and seems reasonably well made, has moonlight mode which I like, strobe and beacon and a few other light level settings. It's also reasonably sized but for me it's too bulky for a true EDC light. It's doable of course but just not as easily as the Microstream so being the lazy sort, the Microstream goes in the pocket every day and the Quark stays in the Jeep or in a day pack or something. I also have a Quark QT2A that stays in my work truck. I get batteries free at work and always have a bulk pack of AA and AAA handy, so an AA light is the logical choice for my work application. To Rob_S' point, the QP2L-X can be very simple to operate. With the bezel tight click the tail switch and the light comes on in high mode. Click it again and it goes off. Loosen the bezel a bit and the switch works the same in moonlight mode. If you want to cycle through the other settings simply push the tail switch a bit without clicking it and it goes to the next setting. They're all available but that doesn't mean you have to use them if you don't want to.

And then I have a Surefire 6P with a Malkoff M61 drop-in. It's my dedicated weapon light mounted on my AR. AWESOME package, IMO. Rugged, stone cold reliable and great KISS gear. While I see the application of "new tech" stuff, I also tend to be a KISS sorta guy when it comes to the really important stuff. Momentary on only tail switch with twist-the-tail to stay on. A bit big for EDC, IMO, but if you want a KISS light that you can COUNT on 24/7, and has really great light throw and spill for a reasonable price, it's hard to go wrong with this combo. I picked up the NOS 6P for less than $40 and added the M61 for another $40 so I have my perfect weapon light for around 80 bucks.

As a side note. I have several of the cheap < $5 Ultrafire AA lights with the push pull focus thingy. Would I bet my life on them? No, but for a really cheap little toss around light they seem to work really well for me. I keep them scattered around... one in the kitchen, one in the Jeep as a spare, a couple in the garage for when I'm working on stuff. Honestly, they're my most used lights and I haven't had one fail yet. They're kinda like my cheap reading glasses... cheap enough to have a ton of them scattered around everywhere.

[johnson]

The QT2L-X is much better. I had originally set mine up to run on 14500s and 14505s but was having dimming issues. Put it back with the original body and inserted 17670s (eventually upgrading to the 16650s) and all is well.

Mine run better as is, the size difference is minimal, and the run times are significantly different.

So, yeah...

I now have a QT2L, QT2L-X head, and deep carry pocket clip on the way. The difference between a QT2L-X and QTA w/ 14500 is only .7" like you said but now I don't need to spend $40 on a charger and batteries. It would take at least a year to recoup the costs with my normal usage. I'm thinking about swapping the two AA heads and using a CR14505 with the QTA and XM-L head. It won't get used at all anyway and it can't hurt to have a backup to the backup (QTL) that can be used with an alkaline AA in an emergency. The 2xAA body and QTA head will get some Energizer lithium AAs.

http://i.imgur.com/Vx4RX67.jpg

[Drang]

Has anyone else tried MecArmy?
Never heard of them. But here's their web site: http://www.mecarmy.com/pd.jsp?id=85&_pp=0_380_2_-1

[Blades]

Never heard of them. But here's their web site: http://www.mecarmy.com/pd.jsp?id=85&_pp=0_380_2_-1

Thank you. I have been to the website. Too many flashlights out there to choose from.

[robs9]

I bought a Fenix PD35 Tac. After a little bit of Google searches. Bought it with their rechargeable batteries. They ran out of the charger listed. They upgraded to a much better one. I have yet to swap out the battery to recharge the first one I put in. I think this is great Light.
I showed the light to a coworker who is into flashlights. Pointed it at his lunch, and he says, crap you just flash fried my food. Dam that thing is bright.

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[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Anyone here have a link or any intel re. SF Sidekicks having battery or switching issues?

[johnson]

Anyone here have a link or any intel re. SF Sidekicks having battery or switching issues?

Have there been reported issues? Here's the main thread on CPF about the Sidekick.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?411370-*New*-Surefire-Sidekick-300-lumen-Keychain-Light

[tomr]

Anyone have experience with the new Olight S1A? here's a review:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?422234-Olight-S1A-and-S2A-review

[That Guy]

I've used an older S10 for around the house carry, until I broke the clip. Utterly, completely non-tactical, not recommended for any self-defense related use, but a bloody useful little utility light.

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[psalms144.1]

Anyone have experience with the new Olight S1A? here's a review:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?422234-Olight-S1A-and-S2A-reviewI'll let you know in a week or two - just bequeathed my super reliable and well used FENIX P2D to my son (off to college starting Tue...) so I snarfed one of these up on Amazon. I don't know nuthin about nuthin about batteries - which is my concern on this one. If I can stuff a normal AA in it and it works on "normal" (who needs 600 lumens from a pocket light?), I'll be happy. If I have to by special AAs that cost as much as the light, I'll probably get another P2D...

More to follow.

[Blades]

Anyone have experience with the new Olight S1A? here's a review:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?422234-Olight-S1A-and-S2A-review

I have one I am "testing/playing with" at the moment. I like the moonlight mode, not sure about the magnetic base. I stuck it to my refrigerator, and that's been it. Still playing, er, I mean "testing".

[punkey71]

If anyone jumped on that eBay deal for the FourSevens QP2L-X and is having second thoughts, please let me know.

My FIL and BIL played with mine and loved them. I would love to gift a couple to them but they are sold out now.

Don't need the box/accessories. Just the light is fine.

Thanks!
Harold


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[Imaposer2]

I picked one up recently. Sorta meh about it, but for 25 bucks I'll keep it around for something...

[OldRunner/CSAT Neighbor]

Have there been reported issues? Here's the main thread on CPF about the Sidekick.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?411370-*New*-Surefire-Sidekick-300-lumen-Keychain-Light

I read that first Johnson but didn't see any talk of a switching issue my 26yro son *seems* to be having.

Just wondered if I missed any talk of issues now that it's been out a while, clearly I need a hands on w/ it the next time I'm back in his AO.

[tomr]

I picked one up recently. Sorta meh about it, but for 25 bucks I'll keep it around for something...

Which? You pick up....

[Imaposer2]

I was replying to the post directly above mine...


If anyone jumped on that eBay deal for the FourSevens QP2L-X and is having second thoughts, please let me know.

My FIL and BIL played with mine and loved them. I would love to gift a couple to them but they are sold out now.

Don't need the box/accessories. Just the light is fine.

Thanks!
Harold


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[punkey71]

Olight's new webstore, Olightstore.com, just launched today.

They are offering 25% - 35% off everything. Free US shipping over $49 ($99 for Canucks) and a free keychain light for orders over $99.

Offer is good 8/27-8/29 only. No coupons - price reflected in webstore.

Grabbed a couple S30R Javelot's for my FIL and I. $105 shipped for the pair with a free keychain light as well.

Worth a look.



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[blues]

Olight's new webstore, Olightstore.com, just launched today.

They are offering 25% off everything. Free US shipping over $49 ($99 for Canucks) and a free keychain light for orders over $99.

Offer is good 8/27-8/29 only. No coupons - price reflected in webstore.

Grabbed a couple S30R Javelot's for my FIL and I. $105 shipped for the pair with a free keychain light as well.

Worth a look.


Very tempting, as I love my i3S EOS and carry it daily...but I just got two Malkoff upgrades for a pair of older Surefire lights this week.

I'd highly recommend Olight (https://olightworld.com/home/) to those looking for excellent lights at great prices, however.

[punkey71]

Blues, your link goes to OlightWORLD.com, which is the old site and normal prices.

Go to the new (as of today) OlightSTORE.com and the prices reflect 25-35% off.

Can you REALLY have enough lights? :-). One more won't hurt....


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[blues]

Blues, your link goes to OlightWORLD.com, which is the old site and normal prices.

Go to the new (as of today) OlightSTORE.com and the prices reflect 25-35% off.

Can you REALLY have enough lights? :-). One more won't hurt....




Ack! Sorry about that, I can't go back and edit it. I saw the 25% off banner and figured I was in the right place. Not enough coffee apparently.

As to the rest...another enabler, just what I needed! :p

(Besides, I told Gene and company that my next light would be one of their own lights. Now I'm covering my eyes and plugging my ears. ;))

[Imaposer2]

Very tempting, as I love my i3S EOS and carry it daily...but I just got two Malkoff upgrades for a pair of older Surefire lights this week.

I'd highly recommend Olight (https://olightworld.com/home/) to those looking for excellent lights at great prices, however.

I have a Surefire 6P that I picked up off Ebay, and a Malkoff drop-in. Damn good setup for the 80 bucks it cost me. I really like the momentary switch with twist for constant on, and the light output is great! It's a dedicated WML on an AR and works perfectly in that application, although with the single mode it may be a bit much for my needs in an EDC or general purpose light.

[blues]

I have a Surefire 6P that I picked up off Ebay, and a Malkoff drop-in. Damn good setup for the 80 bucks it cost me. I really like the momentary switch with twist for constant on, and the light output is great! It's a dedicated WML on an AR and works perfectly in that application, although with the single mode it may be a bit much for my needs in an EDC or general purpose light.

Can't disagree with you on any of it.

My AR wears a Streamlight TLR-1 HL. The shotgun a Surefire DSF-870 forend and light.

Surefire 6Z with Malkoff M61 sits on the nightstand with a Glock. The E2e with Malkoff head accompanies me with the dog on late night walks on our unlit rural gravel road. It serves as a ready backup to my Princeton Tec headlamp.

That said, the Olight i3S EOS is about the perfect EDC light for my everyday needs. Small and light with three useful settings imho. You don't even know you're carrying it.

I've got an older Fenix single AA light that sits in the nightstand drawer and a few others of varying quality laying around the house for use when and if needed.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

I have several fuller sized Surefires that grace the night stand. However, I found that carrying them was a pain in my normal every day dress. One thing was that the clips were continually breaking. Getting a replacement was a pain. Also, with the unshielded button on the bottom of my pocket or top , my physique of lack of would active these things when sitting in the car. Thus, I wanted a shield button and got a E1D LED Defender® Dual-Output LED. Not cheap but had the button up and shielded. Thus I like the way I could access it. One problem was the crenelated ends. They ate through my pants and me - thus I ground down the sharp edges to a nice smooth curve. Does this diminished stopping power when I start pounding on something with it - give me a break. If I'm down to that - oh, well. However, I did hit a dummy in the head with a larger Surefire at the NTI years ago.

So that's my pants based EDC light.

Now sometimes, I don't want to be Mr. Clips on all my pockets geek. Knives, lights, whatever - so for nice dress, I found the 5.11 TMT® PLx Penlight. Got it cheap at a local Cop store as it was the display model. Fits in my shirt pocket like a pen and not really noticeable. It's bright enough as a light (to see with and not as a blinding weapon). It is also sturdy enough for the SHTF last ditch head pounding.

I also have a Photon light on the key chain. I found a bag of them on Amazon for dirt cheap. If it goes out, just get another out of the bag. Remember reading someone who's light failed and did the rest of a tac course with his key chain Photon.

[Edster]

I found a single-battery Surefire in my pocket was a lot more useful than a 6P on the nightstand at home.

I bought this E1 Executive years ago. It comes in super-handy pretty regularly.

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[BillSWPA]

I have several fuller sized Surefires that grace the night stand. However, I found that carrying them was a pain in my normal every day dress. One thing was that the clips were continually breaking. Getting a replacement was a pain. Also, with the unshielded button on the bottom of my pocket or top , my physique of lack of would active these things when sitting in the car. Thus, I wanted a shield button and got a E1D LED Defender[emoji768] Dual-Output LED. Not cheap but had the button up and shielded. Thus I like the way I could access it. One problem was the crenelated ends. They ate through my pants and me - thus I ground down the sharp edges to a nice smooth curve. Does this diminished stopping power when I start pounding on something with it - give me a break. If I'm down to that - oh, well. However, I did hit a dummy in the head with a larger Surefire at the NTI years ago.

So that's my pants based EDC light.

Now sometimes, I don't want to be Mr. Clips on all my pockets geek. Knives, lights, whatever - so for nice dress, I found the 5.11 TMT[emoji768] PLx Penlight. Got it cheap at a local Cop store as it was the display model. Fits in my shirt pocket like a pen and not really noticeable. It's bright enough as a light (to see with and not as a blinding weapon). It is also sturdy enough for the SHTF last ditch head pounding.

I also have a Photon light on the key chain. I found a bag of them on Amazon for dirt cheap. If it goes out, just get another out of the bag. Remember reading someone who's light failed and did the rest of a tac course with his key chain Photon.

During a low light (actually no light) training go session a few years ago, I demonstrated one of those Photon lights to my instructor. With no other light, he was able to see the bullet holes in my target. While it certainly isn't blinding, it can help identify a threat or non-threat. Similar Titanium Innovations lights are available from Battery Junction for $1 each, and often come for free with a certain minimum order. It takes away any excuse for not having some type of light.

[Blades]

I now have a Quark Smart QSL (http://www.foursevens.com/products/qsl-af) heading my way. Unfortunately, they don't have an app for Android yet, but from what I have read I can access everything without it. My wife has an iPhone though, I'm sure she won't mind downloading the app. :)

[blues]

Well, I made good on my promise to Gene and succumbed to the power of Malkoff (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/malkoff-led-flashlights/products/mdc-turnkey-neutral-xp-l-2cr123) again this afternoon...

My future's so bright I gotta wear shades...:cool:

[JodyH]

Surefire Sidekick with a tritium fob attached. When the power went out in our hotel a few months back the tritium fob made finding my light on the nightstand a breeze. Every one of my regular use lights now has one.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/c3ceeb9b3341b2cea8262b42206a5ec6.jpg

[matt7184]

Those tritium fobs are really neat. Do you have a link to a vendor?

[JodyH]

Those tritium fobs are really neat. Do you have a link to a vendor?
I bought mine from BladeHQ.
I've sen the fobs and the tritium tubes sold on Amazon though.

[That Guy]

During a low light (actually no light) training go session a few years ago, I demonstrated one of those Photon lights to my instructor.

I used to carry one on my keys all the time. But after having to replace the light several times, I've started to question the point of a backup light that may or may not work when I take it out. Haven't really found a replacement I could wholeheartedly recommend, though, either.

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[Erik]

Bringing this back up because I'm interested in the HDS Systems EDC Tactical (http://www.hdssystems.com/Products/EDC-T1B-325/) and I see there are a few of people with hands on experience with HDS Systems lights. The interface on the EDC Tactical looks elegant and they're supposed to be very well constructed, with a lifetime warranty. I also like that they are made in the US. On the other hand, they're very expensive and, at least nominally, the lumens are lower than a lot of other lights on the market. So I'm wondering, is this light really a good choice for the money? I'd welcome input from those who are using the light. Thanks.

[BillSWPA]

Bringing this back up because I'm interested in the HDS Systems EDC Tactical (http://www.hdssystems.com/Products/EDC-T1B-325/) and I see there are a few of people with hands on experience with HDS Systems lights. The interface on the EDC Tactical looks elegant and they're supposed to be very well constructed, with a lifetime warranty. I also like that they are made in the US. On the other hand, they're very expensive and, at least nominally, the lumens are lower than a lot of other lights on the market. So I'm wondering, is this light really a good choice for the money? I'd welcome input from those who are using the light. Thanks.

No personal experience, but HDS as well as the man behind the company are highly regarded on Candlepowerforums. I agree that the interface is excellent, and would go as far as to say it is the best interface I have seen for its purpose.

For me, cost is the main disadvantage. Flashlight and LED technology are advancing rapidly enough so that I do not want so much invested in a light that I would hesitate to upgrade when newer, better ones come along. If I knew I would want to carry it for the next 10 years, I would get one.

I have been happy enough with my Klarus XT1C and Terralux TT1-EX at a fraction of the price.



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[Erik]

Thanks. That's kind of where I am at. I have the Klarus/Terralux models and haven't been thrilled with them. The interface is pretty good, but not great, and I've had some issues with the switches seeming to have a mind of their own on a couple of them. But they do function and $300 is a good chunk of change.

[drummer]

I've had an HDS Rotary for a few years now. I bought it from Henry when he had a 6 month plus wait. He was very helpful and answered my annoying questions with patience and lots of detail. I hate lights with overly complex UIs. The Rotary has been perfect.

They are probably about $100 more now and it's a tough pill to swallow at $300 for a flashlight. That said, the Rotary is the perfect edc light in my opinion. Nothing else has it's combination of features and UI. Wake up in the middle of the night and don't want to disturb your night vision or the wife? Turn it all the way down and hit the switch. Looking for something in the dark then need full power to identify someone or something? Press and hold for full output. Tactical use? Turn the Rotary all the way up all turn it on.

Henry doesn't chase lumens. His lights are very efficient and don't get warm like others. I've got the 219 Nichia and the tint is near as I can tell perfect. It's not super bright but enough for DEC. For dedicated tactical work I bring other lights but I have no problem using the HDS if I need to.

The quality is outstanding. Acme threats, knurled exterior, etc. They are bombproof.

[Erik]

One of the guys I work with has a Rotary as well and let me borrow it, so I was able to spend some time playing with it. I really liked it. The interface is great and the output seemed fine. Honestly, other than tint, the output seemed comparable to my Terralux, which is theoretically putting out 700 lumens, with a bigger hot spot and wider beam overall. The strobe was nice too, a bit faster than the Terralux, so I went ahead and ordered the 325 lumen tactical.

[octagon]

Wow $300 for a flashlight. I can't see paying that much. I lost an EDC flashlight that cost a lot less and wasn't happy but losing a $300 one would be a lot worse. I use the EagTac D25A and have been really happy with it for years. I use the more simple UI set up of head screwed down for just turbo and strobe functions but it has plenty of others available when the head is unscrewed slightly. If I was spending $300 for light I would probably buy 5 of these.

http://www.eagletac.com/html/d25crc/specs.html

More lumens,compact size and great quality and I could have one in each car,nightstand or on me and my wife at the same time.

[Erik]

Yup, $300 is a lot, and it certainly gave me pause, but this is the only light I found at any price point that does everything I want it to exactly the way I want it to. It fits in a pocket, is plenty bright and the interface offers immediate access to all light levels and functions, including momentary strobe and momentary full power, without having to cycle through another brightness level or function. Nothing else I found does that. I also like that it's made in the US, carries a lifetime warranty and by all accounts is extremely well made. Certainly the example I played with was very nice - noticeably better quality than any of my Quarks, Klaruses or Terraluxes - and in my non-scientific back yard, basement and flash myself in the mirror testing, it seemed to offer about the same or better level of illumination as the Klarus XT1C I currently carry, with a larger hot spot, overall wider beam and similar throw. I already have a bunch of decent quality lights that do some of what I want. I don't want another one of those. I carry a flashlight in my pocket every day, and use it often. It's worth it to me to buy one that does everything I want it to and hopefully this will be it. If not, there's a 30-day return period and I'll send it back.

[joshs]

I agree, the Tactical Rotary interface is the only flashlight UI that allows easy one hand access to true momentary and many different levels of constant on light.

[drummer]

It's important to realize also that there's a lot more to flashlight output than lumens. Beam shape, quality, tint, flood vs hotspot, etc. are all more important than lumens. But they are hard to articulate on the packaging.

The China made ones are also almost always theoretical outputs, i.e., they calculate emitter X times juice Y = 500 lumens. It's not actual measured out of the front lumens. All of the quality US made lights advertise actual measured outputs.

[Erik]

I've had the EDC Tactical for a week or so now. I love it. It's plenty bright, does everything I want it to do exactly the way I want it to and I really enjoy using it. It is a little larger around and heavier in the pocket than a Klarus or Quark that uses the same battery (CR123), but I haven't found that to be an issue. So far, I'm very satisfied and for me, it was worth the money.

[ScotchMan]

I haven't seen mentioned the Lumintop Tool AAA. At first glance they seem cheap but after seeing a bunch of reviews and getting a deal on a copper one I am a fan. They are single AAA, 110 lumens. Very positive clicky tailcap. I compared mine to my previous EDC Microstream, and this is smaller and brighter and I find it much easier to turn on and off. It also has a "second kind of cool" factor because of the materials it is available in (aluminum, copper, brass, titanium) and two different types of LEDs (Cree and Nichia for a warmer light). It clicks on to medium, and then can cycle through high, low, medium, etc, which I find to be a nice touch.

I probably wouldn't recommend these as hard-use tactical lights, but mine has been my EDC for a while now and has replaced my Microstream with no complaints.

https://smile.amazon.com/LUMINTOP-To.../dp/B01DJ3FK2C (https://smile.amazon.com/LUMINTOP-Tool-AAA-Flashlight-Magnet/dp/B01DJ3FK2C/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=pistolforum-20&linkId=d7bd34d1af50bf1159838f7be978c2a4)

Otherwise I use a ProTac 2AA, E1B Backup (the old one), or the Mag-Lite "Tactical" model with 2 123A cells primarily.

[RJ]

Back in this thread for info.

Somehow I misplaced (aka lost) my EDC Streamlight ProTac 1L I've been using for over a year.

I'm bummed. I really liked the light output and 1 CR123 form factor. It always worked.

I can get a duplicate on Amazon for $37 delivered but:

Are there any other single CR123 lights I should be considering?

I saw the Foursevens Mini Mk II as pretty highly rated. It has a 'moonlight' setting I'd find useful. I see it $45 shipped from Foursevens Direct on Amazon.

Any thoughts on either of these, or something else I should consider?

Budget is $50, possibly a bit more.

Thanks!

[PearTree]

Back in this thread for info.

Somehow I misplaced (aka lost) my EDC Streamlight ProTac 1L I've been using for over a year.

I'm bummed. I really liked the light output and 1 CR123 form factor. It always worked.

I can get a duplicate on Amazon for $37 delivered but:

Are there any other single CR123 lights I should be considering?

I saw the Foursevens Mini Mk II as pretty highly rated. It has a 'moonlight' setting I'd find useful. I see it $45 shipped from Foursevens Direct on Amazon.

Any thoughts on either of these, or something else I should consider?

Budget is $50, possibly a bit more.

Thanks!
My vote goes to foursevens. I use one on/off duty and I find the durability impressive. I find the quality and design of foursevens to be very impressive as well and when I need another light, I will be turning to them before streamlight or surefire.

[Gater]

Rich, as a guy who travels a lot, you may want to take a look at the Streamlight 1L-AA for about $5 more:

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88061-Professional-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B01G75P1SC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498303271&sr=8-1&keywords=streamlight+1L-aa

May be a bit bigger than your lost 1L, but gives you option of using single 123 or single AA, and programmable. I picked one up for overseas travel. I like the pocket clip.

Edited to add: Have a great class--I'm jealous!

[RolandD]

Back in this thread for info.

Somehow I misplaced (aka lost) my EDC Streamlight ProTac 1L I've been using for over a year.

I'm bummed. I really liked the light output and 1 CR123 form factor. It always worked.

I can get a duplicate on Amazon for $37 delivered but:

Are there any other single CR123 lights I should be considering?

I saw the Foursevens Mini Mk II as pretty highly rated. It has a 'moonlight' setting I'd find useful. I see it $45 shipped from Foursevens Direct on Amazon.

Any thoughts on either of these, or something else I should consider?

Budget is $50, possibly a bit more.

Thanks!

I bought a Foursevens Mini Mk II back in March. Carry it clipped to a belt loop with an S-Biner and use it several times a day. Just recharged the battery for the first time last week. I would definitely recommend it, it's a great flashlight and the charger is handy for my other rechargeable batteries, also.

[LtDave]

Very happy with my 4Sevens single 123 lights. I think mine are Quark Minis. My favorite EDC light.

[JCS]

After carrying a Streamlight protac everyday for two years I started to identify some of its flaws. I use a flashlight a lot and over the past couple years I have realized I only need two modes. High and Low. I want a light that comes on in high First and then can change to low if needed. The ten tap from Streamlight is cool except that the closest thing I’ve found to high-low is high-strobe-low.

I have tried a couple other light the past year but each had its flaws. The olight s1r is awesome because it’s rechargeable but that’s about the only thing I liked about it. I tried to micro stream and the stylus pro but they are high only. I00 lumens is surprisingly bright in the pitch black of night when trying to shine a light on something to read.

So I have decided to pony up for a surefire eb1-mv. We will see if it’s worth the money. I picked it up for $105, which is still way more than I wanted to spend but if it works like I hope it’ll be worth it.

I still really like the protac 1l. I’ve accidentally washed it twice and dropped it countless times. It’s a fantastic size and I can’t imagine finding much better for the price.

[orionz06]

After carrying a Streamlight protac everyday for two years I started to identify some of its flaws. I use a flashlight a lot and over the past couple years I have realized I only need two modes. High and Low. I want a light that comes on in high First and then can change to low if needed. The ten tap from Streamlight is cool except that the closest thing I’ve found to high-low is high-strobe-low.

I have tried a couple other light the past year but each had its flaws. The olight s1r is awesome because it’s rechargeable but that’s about the only thing I liked about it. I tried to micro stream and the stylus pro but they are high only. I00 lumens is surprisingly bright in the pitch black of night when trying to shine a light on something to read.

So I have decided to pony up for a surefire eb1-mv. We will see if it’s worth the money. I picked it up for $105, which is still way more than I wanted to spend but if it works like I hope it’ll be worth it.

I still really like the protac 1l. I’ve accidentally washed it twice and dropped it countless times. It’s a fantastic size and I can’t imagine finding much better for the price.

The EDCL1-T is pretty solid, gas pedal switch.

[RevolverRob]

After carrying a Streamlight protac everyday for two years I started to identify some of its flaws. I use a flashlight a lot and over the past couple years I have realized I only need two modes. High and Low. I want a light that comes on in high First and then can change to low if needed. The ten tap from Streamlight is cool except that the closest thing I’ve found to high-low is high-strobe-low.

I have tried a couple other light the past year but each had its flaws. The olight s1r is awesome because it’s rechargeable but that’s about the only thing I liked about it. I tried to micro stream and the stylus pro but they are high only. I00 lumens is surprisingly bright in the pitch black of night when trying to shine a light on something to read.

So I have decided to pony up for a surefire eb1-mv. We will see if it’s worth the money. I picked it up for $105, which is still way more than I wanted to spend but if it works like I hope it’ll be worth it.

I still really like the protac 1l. I’ve accidentally washed it twice and dropped it countless times. It’s a fantastic size and I can’t imagine finding much better for the price.

I absolutely concur that flashlights need two modes only, high and low.

I strongly prefer a positive mode change of some type (head twist or tail twist), because I like not cycling modes if I want to strobe. If you find yourself unhappy with the Surefire you could look at; Elzetta, Malkoff MD, and the Blackhawk Night-Ops Legacy.

I suspect the Legacy is merely an updated version of the Nighthawk Gladius, itself a Ken Good design. The positive click mode rotation on the Gladius/Legacy that doesn't involving loosening or tightening critical components (head or tail cap) is better, in my opinion, because it removes a potential failure point. I don't really need the strobe or medium brightness modes, but they're easy to skip in activation.

[dontshakepandas]

The EDCL1-T is pretty solid, gas pedal switch.This. I love mine. By far my favorite light I've ever used. I'll probably pick up the 2 cell version at some point too.

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[eb07]

I have a nitecore mt2a. Very happy with it and batteries (2AA) are commone

[Up1911Fan]

The EDCL1-T is pretty solid, gas pedal switch.

How's the bezel Tom? I've been carrying the E1D for the past few years and the strike bezel has worn through several pants pockets. I carry it bezel down in my back pocket next to my wallet, support side. Thinking of upgrading and tossing the other light in my glove box, just wondering of this one is going to tear up pockets?

[Cypher]

Fenix UC35 Rechargeable LED Flashlight - Fenix-Store

Fenix UC 35 This is the light that I carry at work, It's the only light I have that doesn't run on AAs (It runs on 2 CR123s or a rechargeable 18650 battery) but it IS rechargeable and it charges through a USB port which means I can recharge it with my phone charger at work if I need to. I've saved the price of the light over the last 2.5 year just because I've not had to replace the batteries

It has 5 brightness levels and a strobe (that I never use)

14 lumens
50 lumens
180 lumens
480 lumens
960 lumens

This light "remembers" the last setting you put it on so I keep it on turbo and step it down if I need to.
According to the website it will run an hour and a half on "Turbo but since I almost never leave it on full for more than a minute or two I usually only have to recharge it twice a week or so.

It's also regulated so it will run evenly until it hits about 30% charge then it steps down to the 180 lumens setting. It also light a red warning light to let you know it's time to charge.

Cost 89(ish)

http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix...FYSAaQodB1UFGQ

As a back up or when I'm not at work I carry a Fenix E12. This the light I carried when I was working straight days and occasionally asked to stay over after dark. It has 3 settings 8 lumens, 50 lumens and 130 lumens. It runs off of 1 AA battery which is widely available and its small enough to fit in my pocket. Now that I'm working straight nights it's my back up. The one drawback to this light is that it doesn't "remember" the setting so you turn it on at the lowest setting and you have to click it up and sometimes you turn it off.

Cost 25 (ish)

[Jamie]

Rich, as a guy who travels a lot, you may want to take a look at the Streamlight 1L-AA for about $5 more:

https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-88061-Professional-Tactical-Flashlight/dp/B01G75P1SC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498303271&sr=8-1&keywords=streamlight+1L-aa

May be a bit bigger than your lost 1L, but gives you option of using single 123 or single AA, and programmable. I picked one up for overseas travel. I like the pocket clip.

Edited to add: Have a great class--I'm jealous!

I just picked up one of these last week and for the price point I'm impressed.

I have a couple of Malkoff replacement heads for my old Surefire E2e's. Excellent quality, but the weight and length in relation to the older E2e's clip throws the pocket clip balance off for me.

I bemoan the fact that Arc lights seem to be out of business (again). I have one on my pocket keychain that's handily been going strong for about 15 years now.



https://i.imgur.com/VudL8qD.jpg

[dontshakepandas]

How's the bezel Tom? I've been carrying the E1D for the past few years and the strike bezel has worn through several pants pockets. I carry it bezel down in my back pocket next to my wallet, support side. Thinking of upgrading and tossing the other light in my glove box, just wondering of this one is going to tear up pockets?

Not Tom, but the bezel is definitely not as sharp as the E1D. I'd say it's a good medium between the E1D and a standard round bezel.

I have been carrying mine bezel down for a few months and have no issues, but I carry in my front pocket.

If you do get wear I would expect it to be minimal and at a much slower rate than the E1D.

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[JCS]

The EDCL1-T is pretty solid, gas pedal switch.

This seemed like a perfect edc light and I almost got it. However, I got worried the size would be a little too big. The eb1 is already a big step up in size compared to the stuff I’ve been carrying. If I adjust to the eb1 I see the edcl1t in my future. The user interface seems absolutely perfect.

[RJ]

Got this a couple weeks ago, $8 on Prime:

GLAREE E03 Keychain Flashlight, CREE LED 150 Lumens Mini Torch AAA Battery EDC Pocket Penlight Portable Emergency Light

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZTG46N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EFgaBbER9QSGF

It is a minimal 1 AAA light. It has a moonlight mode as well as a 150 Lumen. It is made of aluminum and the activation is a simple twist.

I use it on my lanyard as a small carry light at work.

Just wanted to mention it in case folks are looking for something on the small size. I’m pretty happy with it for the price.

[Luked]

I have a Fenix RC09 that I carry everyday and its always worked well and has a strobe feature as well and is rechargeable

[Cypher]

https://www.rei.com/product/124310/fenix-rc05-se-rechargeable-flashlight?CAWELAID=120217890004396989&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15724846360&CATCI=pla-392217174618&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C404_113278%7C1243100001%7Cnone %7C00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce%7Cpla-392217174618&lsft=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA%7C404_113278%7C12431000 01%7Cnone%7C00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce%7Cpla-392217174618&kclid=00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce&gclid=CjwKCAjw_47YBRBxEiwAYuKdw2Gtv_n7wVrPjydFNSPY NsPrPEZTR9qSB-ft3JlTsn-_cqGN2n6M9xoCrHoQAvD_BwE

I bought this RC05SE last week and I'm really happy with it. It's only 300 lumens but so far that's been adequate for what I use it for. I primarily use it at work and I'm confident that it's bright enough to check the fence line in the dark or identify a threat.

I also like the fact that it's rechargeable or it can run on a AA battery which cuts down the cost to use it and I like the fact that it's small enough to carry in my pocket.

[JCS]

Do low light instructors recommend using strobe?

I’m the opposite of an operator so I’m legitimately inquiring. When I was researching flashlights a large majority of “tactical” flashlights have a strobe function, yet the strobe function seemed like it was users biggest complaint. Also it was one feature that I didn’t notice on the surefire lights. They just tend to be “all the lumens” or just a few lumens, at least the edc lights I looked at.

[Cypher]

https://www.rei.com/product/124310/fenix-rc05-se-rechargeable-flashlight?CAWELAID=120217890004396989&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=15724846360&CATCI=pla-392217174618&cm_mmc=PLA_Google%7C404_113278%7C1243100001%7Cnone %7C00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce%7Cpla-392217174618&lsft=cm_mmc:PLA_Google_LIA%7C404_113278%7C12431000 01%7Cnone%7C00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce%7Cpla-392217174618&kclid=00577f37-349d-49c4-8f9c-5e0420f912ce&gclid=CjwKCAjw_47YBRBxEiwAYuKdw2Gtv_n7wVrPjydFNSPY NsPrPEZTR9qSB-ft3JlTsn-_cqGN2n6M9xoCrHoQAvD_BwE

I bought this RC05SE last week and I'm really happy with it. It's only 300 lumens but so far that's been adequate for what I use it for. I primarily use it at work and I'm confident that it's bright enough to check the fence line in the dark or identify a threat.

I also like the fact that it's rechargeable or it can run on a AA battery which cuts down the cost to use it and I like the fact that it's small enough to carry in my pocket.

ETA the charging cord also acts as a quick charger for my phone

[TAZ]

Do low light instructors recommend using strobe?

I’m the opposite of an operator so I’m legitimately inquiring. When I was researching flashlights a large majority of “tactical” flashlights have a strobe function, yet the strobe function seemed like it was users biggest complaint. Also it was one feature that I didn’t notice on the surefire lights. They just tend to be “all the lumens” or just a few lumens, at least the edc lights I looked at.

I’m the least tactical guy here and strobes no workie fir me. Inside they not only disoriented my wife (playing burglar) but the bounce back from the light walls disoriented me as well. Outdoors it may not be an issue. I prefer just a light. But then I’m no pro.

[Cypher]

I’m the least tactical guy here and strobes no workie fir me. Inside they not only disoriented my wife (playing burglar) but the bounce back from the light walls disoriented me as well. Outdoors it may not be an issue. I prefer just a light. But then I’m no pro.

On both my lights you have to push a separate button to make them strobe. That makes it a nonstarter for me.

[critter]

Do low light instructors recommend using strobe?

I’m the opposite of an operator so I’m legitimately inquiring. When I was researching flashlights a large majority of “tactical” flashlights have a strobe function, yet the strobe function seemed like it was users biggest complaint. Also it was one feature that I didn’t notice on the surefire lights. They just tend to be “all the lumens” or just a few lumens, at least the edc lights I looked at.

I'm not tactical either... anyway, I do know for an absolute certainty that a strobe will freak the hell out of one specific dog. I certainly wouldn't rely on the strobe alone under any circumstance that wasn't a last ditch effort for survival.

Aside: Wasn't a massive strobe used against German pilots in a WWII battle somewhere where it would completely disorient the pilots? I seem to remember something like that from a documentary but ... can't quite get it back.

[orionz06]

Do low light instructors recommend using strobe?

A few do, most don't. It seems that most that don't haven't seen it used well and dismiss it all together.

[NH Shooter]

A Malkoff Junky's POV

For me, the primary use of an "EDC flashlight" is for utilitarian purposes: finding my cell phone when it slides under the car seat, searching for the spare magazine in the back corners of the safe, looking under the car hood at night, etc. For this use, my preference is for a light that is small and easy to carry, yet durable enough to take a beating. I don't necessarily need long run time or a ton of lumens.

The following configuration has become my standard EDC light;

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/mdcvme-2.jpg


http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/malkoff-8.jpg



This light is an assembly of the following pieces;

MDC HA 1CR12 Body (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/parts-and-miscellaneous-items/products/mdc-ha-1cr123-body-only)

VME Head (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/parts-and-miscellaneous-items/products/vme-malkoff-valiant-concepts-head)

This body/head combo will accept any of Malkoff's 6P drop-ins (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/surefire-drop-ins-for-6p-g2-c2-etc-6-9-volts) using a Li-ion 16340 rechargeable body or any of Malkoff's 3P drop-ins (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/surefire) using a standard CR123 battery. The ability to easily swap drop-ins in combination with Malkoff quality has made this my best-ever EDC light for general purpose use.

If I know I'll be venturing out at night I will sometimes take one of my larger Malkoff lights with me. These lights still carry comfortably in a front pocket but offer longer run time and higher output. Below is my Wildcat v.6 on a MD3 body (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/large-malkoff-led-flashlights/products/malkoff-wildcat?variant=29865398851);

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/malkoff-13.jpg


This light is approximately 6-inches long but still rides comfortably clipped into a front pocket. On low with the bezel slightly backed-off from tight on the body (about 30 lumens) it has over 12 hours of run time and is perfect walking the dogs or navigating over uneven terrain. On high with the bezel tight on the body (1000+ lumens) its wide flood pattern creates a wall-of-light with about 40 minutes of run time on a pair of 18500 Li-ion cells. The Wildcat v.6 head can also be used on a MD2 body (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/parts-and-miscellaneous-items/products/md2-body-and-switch) (same size as a SF 6P) with a set of 18350 Li-ion cells with about half the run time;

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/malkoff-19.jpg


Installing a Hound Dog 18650 (https://malkoff-devices.myshopify.com/collections/parts-and-miscellaneous-items/products/malkoff-neutral-hound-dog-18650-head-only) head (high: 900 lumens - 29,000 lux; low: approximately 30 lumens) and dropping in an 18650 Li-ion cell turns it into a powerful search light;

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/malkoff-14.jpg

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/malkoff-2.jpg


Using a Vltor mount, it also makes for a kick-ass WML for my carbine;

http://www.canonshooter.com/photos2/wml-5.jpg


Between the superb build quality, incredible CS and the ability to easily set up a light for any purpose, Malkoff stuff is all I need (or want).

[robs9]

I carry a very simple light every day. LED Maglite Silhouette. Easy on and off. Ruggedly built. 1 AAA battery. Depending on how I use it battery lasts about 2 weeks.

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[rob_s]

so as not to keep hijacking the Surefire Stilleto thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33508-Surefire-Stiletto), I moved my comment over here


For small EDC light chores, I recently picked up a Streamlight Microstream USB light. VERY small in the pocket, two modes (100 or 250 lumen) and built in micro usb charger. The black finished light defaults to 100 lumen and goes to 250 with the double tap. Coyote finish light defaults to 250 and goes to 100 lumen with the double tap. For under $30 bucks you cant beat it. I throw it on the charger about every 3 weeks. Output is full power for about 20-30 min, then slowly begins to taper off for about 2 more hours. And if you lose it, it was under $30.



Amazon links because:IMTJ

Black: https://amzn.to/2DxeDHb

Coyote: https://amzn.to/2DfdP9e


I’ve had a couple of the non-rechargeable versions of this, and the larger rechargeable version, for quite some time, and still can’t find anything wrong with any of them.

I want to like the stiletto, but this post really strikes home for me.

Two days after I posted the above, I found myself in the Gaylord Palms hotel, doing a christmas scavenger hunt with the wife and kids, shining my AAA Streamlight here and there, when it shit the bed. No big deal, we just went to phone lights, but the battery dying was annoying, and upon returning home I seemed to have lost the damn light. Given that we were at a hotel getting a spare battery was going to be a pain, and of course all of the spares I usually carry were used up somewhere else. I did have the (2)AAA version of the light in my backpack so once back and the room I wasn't lightless, but it did occur to me that having a rechargeable light would have been a good thing here.

I ordered one each of the brown and black. I definitely prefer the non-tacticalness of the black one in terms of low first, high second.

[robs9]

I carry a Maglight Led Solitaire. AAA battery. Focusable. 12 -15 bucks. Light use every day. Battery last a few weeks.

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[jeffhughes]

so as not to keep hijacking the Surefire Stilleto thread (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?33508-Surefire-Stiletto), I moved my comment over here







Two days after I posted the above, I found myself in the Gaylord Palms hotel, doing a christmas scavenger hunt with the wife and kids, shining my AAA Streamlight here and there, when it shit the bed. No big deal, we just went to phone lights, but the battery dying was annoying, and upon returning home I seemed to have lost the damn light. Given that we were at a hotel getting a spare battery was going to be a pain, and of course all of the spares I usually carry were used up somewhere else. I did have the (2)AAA version of the light in my backpack so once back and the room I wasn't lightless, but it did occur to me that having a rechargeable light would have been a good thing here.

I ordered one each of the brown and black. I definitely prefer the non-tacticalness of the black one in terms of low first, high second.

I have a black one. I like it a lot. Will give a bunch at Xmas....

[JCS]

This seemed like a perfect edc light and I almost got it. However, I got worried the size would be a little too big. The eb1 is already a big step up in size compared to the stuff I’ve been carrying. If I adjust to the eb1 I see the edcl1t in my future. The user interface seems absolutely perfect.

I tried out the eb1 and didn’t like the beam or how it carried in the pocket. I got the edcl1-t and it’s been a great light. The gas pedal switch is both amazing and annoying. Most of the time it’s amazing. But every once in awhile I wish it was a clicky.