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David S.
02-02-2016, 07:46 AM
Autoblog: The F-150 is getting a diesel and here's video proof. (http://www.autoblog.com/2016/01/28/ford-f150-diesel-spied-video/?ncid=edlinkusauto00000016)

David S.
02-02-2016, 09:28 AM
Oops, this was supposed to go in the GM: We told ya so on small pickups (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?17940-GM-quot-We-told-ya-so-on-small-pickups-quot) thread. Or maybe the Which Truck? (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16799-Which-truck&highlight=diesel) thread.

LittleLebowski
02-02-2016, 12:15 PM
Oops, this was supposed to go in the GM: We told ya so on small pickups (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?17940-GM-quot-We-told-ya-so-on-small-pickups-quot) thread. Or maybe the Which Truck? (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16799-Which-truck&highlight=diesel) thread.

No, I moved it as I figured it was deserving of its own thread.

Poconnor
02-02-2016, 02:05 PM
This needs its own thread. I have a Ford F-250 6.7 diesel. I love it but truthfully it's too much for daily driving. I have long wished ford worked a deal with cummins. Take the 5.9 diesel and chop one cylinder off to make a straight 5 cyl 5 liter turbo diesel for half ton trucks. I had a 1976 f100 with the 300 straight six with a three speed on the column. That's what I want. A modern, simple, cheap full size f150 that gets better fuel economy. I know it's not going to happen. But I can wish. I'll take a hillux too

Colt191145lover
02-02-2016, 02:23 PM
This needs its own thread. I have a Ford F-250 6.7 diesel. I love it but truthfully it's too much for daily driving. I have long wished ford worked a deal with cummins. Take the 5.9 diesel and chop one cylinder off to make a straight 5 cyl 5 liter turbo diesel for half ton trucks. I had a 1976 f100 with the 300 straight six with a three speed on the column. That's what I want. A modern, simple, cheap full size f150 that gets better fuel economy. I know it's not going to happen. But I can wish. I'll take a hillux too

They already have the Cummins 4BT http://cumminshub.com/4bt.html :D With some aftermarket parts you can get a lot more power and mileage out of them as well .

David S.
02-02-2016, 02:38 PM
OK cool.

This really is exactly the pickup that I've been waiting for. I'm not a beta tester for any product, so if this thing actually goes into production and survives the next few years, it'll be on the short list when it's time to replace the Tacoma.

Shotgun
02-02-2016, 03:02 PM
I have a Ford F-250 6.7 diesel. I love it but truthfully it's too much for daily driving.

True. I will be driving an F350 for a few weeks. It is not a comfortable ride.


This really is exactly the pickup that I've been waiting for.

Me too. I have wanted a diesel 150 to come out for a long time.

StraitR
02-02-2016, 04:52 PM
This could be VERY good news.

David S.
02-02-2016, 06:04 PM
I'm hoping that this a sign that diesel is going mainstream.

ralph
02-02-2016, 07:12 PM
For a long time, I was hoping something like this would happen.. It should've about 20yrs ago. It's a great idea.. But, I shudder when I think what this is going to cost. Around here plain-Jane 2dr pickups with 4wd, (I know, a rare bird in itself) are going for around $30,000, most places have full dressed 4 door pickups that are over $50,000. I just can't see for the average consumer, any benefit to a diesel..(an exception would be for VW, Mercedes diesel cars) Unless you're using it everyday for business, or towing, etc, or plan on owning it until it literally can't move under it own power anymore, then yeah, maybe. But for the average Joe who'll likely trade it in 5yrs, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze...

Welder
02-02-2016, 07:36 PM
Just a word of agreement with a previous poster....I would definitely NOT be a beta-tester for one of these new diesels. There was once a time when a person could be pretty sure that their truck (or car) would fall apart around its still-running-like-a-top original diesel engine which would never have needed any expensive repairs, but those days have been gone for awhile now. Although I expect you can probably still expect a VW car to fall apart around its engine. :) (Just a little joke for any other ex-VW owners out there)

These new emissions-controlled engines and their associated problems and downtime have caused a huge demand in agricultural circles for older tractors - one of my customers is a large new equipment dealership and in the past year I've only seen one mechanically-injected tractor traded in....farmers simply aren't getting rid of them anymore. Back in the day they'd have traded them in at 6,000 hrs or so; now some of them are well past 20,000 and their owners keep rebuilding them as opposed to buying newer equipment. I follow this train of thought with my own equipment; all of the diesels I own are pre-emissions engines and as such I have no worries about their longevity.

This current time reminds me of the early 1980's when gas cars had electronic carburetors and 100 feet of vacuum line actuating 30 vacuum-controlled emissions components. Who would have guessed that in another few years those carbs would disappear along with most of the vacuum lines, and we'd end up with a reliable system that was both simpler and more efficient. I'm hoping the same thing happens with diesels in the long run, but in my opinion we ain't there yet.

BehindBlueI's
02-02-2016, 08:25 PM
The last diesel I had was a Super Duty with the 7.3L. I don't see the need for me to have a diesel in a 1/2 ton. Pre-ULSD, absolutely, sign me up. Today? With diesel selling at a premium and emissions equipment requirements...pass. I'll stick with my Hemi.

Welder
02-02-2016, 11:09 PM
For a long time, I was hoping something like this would happen.. It should've about 20yrs ago. It's a great idea..

Actually, it did, but more like 34 years ago when GM introduced the 6.2 diesel into half-ton and bigger pickups. Maybe earlier than that if you want to count the infamous Oldsmobile gassers-converted-to-diesels that I'm pretty sure were offered in half-ton pickups for at least a year or two. There were actually a fair amount of [under-powered] diesels running around in the early '80's. I worked at a Dodge dealership about 15 years ago that still had some Renault parts hanging around for the Renault diesels that were put in some of the Jeep Cherokees. Quite a few cars had diesel options during the end of the carbureted gas engine time period as well...I'm remembering the Chevette, the Escort, most if not all of the GM mid-size fleet, etc. By the time gasoline fuel injection had the bugs worked out, the only cars with diesels you really saw were Mercedes and VW's.

ralph
02-03-2016, 09:33 AM
Actually, it did, but more like 34 years ago when GM introduced the 6.2 diesel into half-ton and bigger pickups. Maybe earlier than that if you want to count the infamous Oldsmobile gassers-converted-to-diesels that I'm pretty sure were offered in half-ton pickups for at least a year or two. There were actually a fair amount of [under-powered] diesels running around in the early '80's. I worked at a Dodge dealership about 15 years ago that still had some Renault parts hanging around for the Renault diesels that were put in some of the Jeep Cherokees. Quite a few cars had diesel options during the end of the carbureted gas engine time period as well...I'm remembering the Chevette, the Escort, most if not all of the GM mid-size fleet, etc. By the time gasoline fuel injection had the bugs worked out, the only cars with diesels you really saw were Mercedes and VW's.

I remember those Olds engines...I was living in Florida at the time and had a friend who was a GM trained mechanic.. He worked at a Cadlliac dealership and he was busy fixing those damn things, From what he told me they were nothing but problems.. I never understood the idea of trying to convert a gas engine to a diesel.. That was nothing but a epic failure, and I would've thought that GM had better engineering skill than that.. All any of the Big 3 would've had to do back then would be to put a simple 4-5 cylinder turbo charged diesel in a 1/2 ton pickup, and it probably would've worked well, They knew how, they simply didn't want to do it..

Painkiller7
02-07-2016, 09:55 PM
Ford is behind in the game unfortunately. I'm a Ford fan (dd a 7.3) and big diesel advocate.
Nissan has put a 5.0L cummins in their Titan, Dodge has an ecodiesel in their half ton now, and the Chevy Colorado got a diesel for 2016.
I am praying that the new Wrangler model gets a diesel. I will be at the stealership ready to sign my life away for one!