Why no kac love?

[Unobtanium]

I get that KAC has, in the past, been sometimes associated with snobbishness, etc regarding its owners, but the mod 2 has an innovative and by now, seemingly proven rail and operating system. Noveske, katana, warsport, and others continue to get press, but kac seems to not be on the popular radar, even costing similar in the sr15 flavor. Why? Is it not as glamorous as it appears? I'm seeing proven innovation with the bolt, gas system, and rail, along with a true ambiti lower and forged barrel of infinitely sensible profile, match trigger, for a hair over 2k. What's the deal?

[Gray222]

http://i.imgur.com/NWAmOqp.jpg

I am a big fan of KAC and always tell people to get an sr15 if they are looking for a top tier ar15 that will do everything they want without the hassles of building and sourcing.

We dont hear about it because most have no problems with them. SR15s run well, you just have to find one to buy, which may be an issue.

Hell ive been trying to find a 11.5 sbr for a while and have yet to succeed, even given up at this point.

[45dotACP]

I seem to recall sumdood on Ballistic Radio singing their praises after using one pretty hard...

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[CDFIII]

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I have much love for KAC! I've been through a bunch of different brands and nothing compares to KAC quality except maybe HK. The E3 bolt system is awesome. The new gas system on mod 2 guns eliminates any gas leaks at the gas block that most traditional systems exhibit. And the SR25 AAC... Well what can I say.. It's everything the Scar17 wishes it could be;). Not real sure why my 1st pic uploaded twice

[LittleLebowski]

I love my complete SR30 upper.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/Guns/FF0E7F2A-1228-4B8C-9D86-F5F4A90B5EAB_zpsjt51wvqu.jpg

[Gray222]

I love my complete SR30 upper.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/baxshep/Guns/FF0E7F2A-1228-4B8C-9D86-F5F4A90B5EAB_zpsjt51wvqu.jpg

When did you get that? You been holding out on me?

[LittleLebowski]

When did you get that? You been holding out on me?

A coupla months ago and yes. It is very nice, I totally get the KAC love now. 11.5" .300BLK.

[Matt O]

A coupla months ago and yes. It is very nice, I totally get the KAC love now. 11.5" .300BLK.

How do you like the URX 3.1 rail? With the rail panels added, is the thickness similar to a standard pic rail sans rail covers?

[M2CattleCo]

KAC is the real deal. I have three Mod1 16" uppers. Love 'em.

[StraitR]

I love everything KAC, except their SR25 prices and micro mount. Oh, and that they won't make the SR-47 available.

I think the lack of KAC discussion is due to cost of ownership and market saturation. As such, there are fewer KAC owners, and for every one KAC owner singing their praises, there are 10,000 naysayers waiting in the shadows ready to argue why brand XZY is just as good at half the cost. And to be honest, it get's tiresome. When I want to talk and read about KAC, which is pretty often, I jump in the KAC sub-forum in the Industry section on Arfcom. Lot's of knowledgable people and KAC employees in there, including one of our SME's, and is well worth the daily visit.

I always recommend KAC to anyone who asks about them.

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[Gray222]

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/704/22067890912_66e1af656e_c.jpg

I like this.

[rob_s]

Mostly agree with those above. the SR15 is pretty much the only turn-key, out-of-the-box solution available, if one wants anything beyond retro/KISS/bare-bones of a Colt 6520/6920, that I would buy. But the price carries with it a perception of premium (although we've certainly all seen sub-standard guns slathered in sub-standard or mis-applied parts that aggregate out to a higher cost).

I'm still weighing whether I go through the trouble of bringing my three Colts up to date or just go buy two KACs. Right now the latter option is winning...

One thing I'm curious about...

when I wrote my article for SWAT about the KAC SR15 prototype I had on loan, Trey told me at the time that they were intended to be 2 MOA guns. Is that still true? Anyone done any meaningful accuracy testing to show it to be un-true? I'm not talking the usual "I once shot a dime-sized, three-shot, group of three with my handloads" but something more substantial.

[SLG]

Im not condeming kac in anyway, but some of us have had lots of their guns in professional settings. Things didnt always work out well. That may be one reason there is less love than for other brands. Some of their newer stuff is definitely better, but it is hard to overcome a poor history, as many of you can attest to with S&W.

[Unobtanium]

Im not condeming kac in anyway, but some of us have had lots of their guns in professional settings. Things didnt always work out well. That may be one reason there is less love than for other brands. Some of their newer stuff is definitely better, but it is hard to overcome a poor history, as many of you can attest to with S&W.
Do you refer to the 5.56, or the m110?

[Josh Runkle]

I'ma big fan of most of KAC's products, however, I know that they fell out of favor with a lot of people a while back due to some of the early URX rail mounting issues (barrel nut).

[JSGlock34]

My SR15E3 has proven very reliable through several thousand rounds and a number of carbine classes. Many seem to take issue with the proprietary bolt, but considering you're more likely to shoot out the cold hammer forged barrel before you experience a bolt failure, I've never found it an issue.

[SLG]

Do you refer to the 5.56, or the m110?

Both, plus other models.

[Unobtanium]

Both, plus other models.

Is it ironed out in their mod 2's?

[Moshjath]

It's not the latest, sexiest long railed Keymod or MLOK...but I'm a fan of the KAC RAS. It's built like a tank, it's what's on my M4 at work, and you can't beat $150 for a blemished RAS direct from KAC.

[SecondsCount]

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One thing I'm curious about...

when I wrote my article for SWAT about the KAC SR15 prototype I had on loan, Trey told me at the time that they were intended to be 2 MOA guns. Is that still true? Anyone done any meaningful accuracy testing to show it to be un-true? I'm not talking the usual "I once shot a dime-sized, three-shot, group of three with my handloads" but something more substantial.

A friend has one and it is a nice gun. I would be curious as to what kind of ammo the 2 MOA is based on because I think with match ammo they could probably hit 1 MOA.

Most of the time we setup some steel at 100-300 yards and have fun with M855.

[SLG]

Is it ironed out in their mod 2's?

I don't have much experience with the newest stuff. As I said, I think they have improved them, but it's a hard sell institutionally because of previous problems. My only point was that the history of them probably has to do with their "less love" status, at least among many groups with extensive history. As an individual owner, I'm sure there are plenty of happy customers. I'm also pretty well up to speed on who is using them today, and I assume they are happy with the newer ones. I can check on that, but it hasn't really mattered much to me to do so.

As I said before, I have no issues with KAC products, and I don't hold their history against them. If I had to start carrying one tomorrow, I would treat it like everything else and see how it did. Every gun company makes mistakes. Every gun company puts out a poor product from time to time, either in design or execution. As long as they learn from it and fix it, that's all any of us can really ask.

Aside from the guns themselves, KAC has led the industry in certain areas, and I was using their products for a long time before they started building guns. I think some of the stuff they make today is still as good as it gets.

[Unobtanium]

A friend has one and it is a nice gun. I would be curious as to what kind of ammo the 2 MOA is based on because I think with match ammo they could probably hit 1 MOA.

Most of the time we setup some steel at 100-300 yards and have fun with M855.



The groups I am seeing online with mk262 hover around 1moa at 100 yards for 5 to 10 shots.

[LittleLebowski]

With a certain SME working at KAC, I would definitely buy one of their products. I'm astounded at the attention to detail and function of my SR30 upper.

[Kram]

Where is the best place to buy a complete SR15? I have been on the fence for a while and want to finally purchase one soon.

Thanks

[StraitR]

Where is the best place to buy a complete SR15? I have been on the fence for a while and want to finally purchase one soon.

Thanks

IMO, Ayan at boltcarrier.com (https://www.boltcarrier.com) is the best place to purchase anything KAC. I met him years ago when I was in the industry, and I do everything I can to support him. On top of that, he is a KAC certified armorer, and does outstanding shop work. I'm not alone in this sentiment, as he is the popular choice amongst avid KAC fans. That is where I purchased my Mod 2, and it also happened to be the best price around when I bought it.

That being said, I've bought KAC products from Gun Gallery in Jax, Neil and the gang are a great bunch. I've also purchased from Operational Parts, but that's because nobody else had the part I needed. Experience was fine, but I don't know them. Lawmen's is also a good source, as they're affiliated with KAC.

[Gray222]

IMO, Ayan at boltcarrier.com (https://www.boltcarrier.com) is the best place to purchase anything KAC. I met him years ago when I was in the industry, and I do everything I can to support him. On top of that, he is a KAC certified armorer, and does outstanding shop work. I'm not alone in this sentiment, as he is the popular choice amongst avid KAC fans. That is where I purchased my Mod 2, and it also happened to be the best price around when I bought it.

That being said, I've bought KAC products from Gun Gallery in Jax, Neil and the gang are a great bunch. I've also purchased from Operational Parts, but that's because nobody else had the part I needed. Experience was fine, but I don't know them. Lawmen's is also a good source, as they're affiliated with KAC.

I've met Ayan and the guys from Gun Gallary. All good dudes, all solid KAC fans.

Helps that they are down the road from the factory ;)

[StraitR]

I've met Ayan and the guys from Gun Gallary. All good dudes, all solid KAC fans.

Helps that they are down the road from the factory ;)

Yes it does, haha. And they're all shooters, with many active in the growth of the sport, one of which founded the US Carbine Association (2-gun). They're constantly at carbine matches and hosting big name trainers for classes. Last year they started a quarterly SPR/DMR match that I have yet to attend. I think it's impossible to live in central Florida and not be a KAC fan. :p

[Gray222]

Yes it does, haha. And they're all shooters, with many active in the growth of the sport, one of which founded the US Carbine Association (2-gun). They're constantly at carbine matches and hosting big name trainers for classes. Last year they started a quarterly SPR/DMR match that I have yet to attend. I think it's impossible to live in central Florida and not be a KAC fan. :p

I was down there early '15 for one of F2S's classes, everyone had SR25's, everyone so happy, it was 80 degrees....in Feb....basically impossible not be into shooting with those temps.

[StraitR]

I was down there early '15 for one of F2S's classes, everyone had SR25's, everyone so happy, it was 80 degrees....in Feb....basically impossible not be into shooting with those temps.

Nice, and you're absolutely right. It's 78 right now and we're headed to some friends house for a bonfire. My buddy and I are going to go off and attempt to call in some yotes while the kids make smores. I'd love to hit one of Jacks classes, but babies and the wife leaving her RN job to start her own business has put the squeeze on my fun money.

Next time you're down this way, give me shout and I'll buy you a beer.

[Gray222]

Nice, and you're absolutely right. It's 78 right now and we're headed to some friends house for a bonfire. My friend and I are going to go off and attempt to call in some yotes while the kids make smores. I'd love to hit one of Jacks classes, but babies and the wife leaving her RN job to start her own business has put the squeeze on my fun money.

Next time you're down this way, give me shout and I'll buy you a beer.

Definitely, though it'll probably be for another one of F2S's classes.

[StraitR]

Definitely, though it'll probably be for another one of F2S's classes.

sumbich. :p

[Dagga Boy]

Im not condeming kac in anyway, but some of us have had lots of their guns in professional settings. Things didnt always work out well. That may be one reason there is less love than for other brands. Some of their newer stuff is definitely better, but it is hard to overcome a poor history, as many of you can attest to with S&W.

I m in the ditto department here. Heard a lot of improvements have been made, but I have moved to other things while that was going on,

[Kyle Reese]

I love my SR15.


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[Kram]

IMO, Ayan at boltcarrier.com (https://www.boltcarrier.com) is the best place to purchase anything KAC. I met him years ago when I was in the industry, and I do everything I can to support him. On top of that, he is a KAC certified armorer, and does outstanding shop work. I'm not alone in this sentiment, as he is the popular choice amongst avid KAC fans. That is where I purchased my Mod 2, and it also happened to be the best price around when I bought it.

That being said, I've bought KAC products from Gun Gallery in Jax, Neil and the gang are a great bunch. I've also purchased from Operational Parts, but that's because nobody else had the part I needed. Experience was fine, but I don't know them. Lawmen's is also a good source, as they're affiliated with KAC.

I appreciate the info. I will be giving them a call during the week to see what they have available.

Thanks

[drummer]

I never understood the KAC love until the last few years. They always seemed overpriced with little advantage over other offerings. Those days are gone, however. In fact, in a recent conversation I was having with a co-worker who's also an armorer, I estimated that the three major companies who are currently advancing the AR more than anyone else was LMT, KAC, and Colt Canada.

With the introduction of the Mod 2s, it would be hard to argue that there's a better out of the box, ready to go carbine. They were one of, if not the the first AR manufactures to go ambi on complete carbines. I can't really think of anything I'd rather have for a duty carbine than a Mod 2 SBR.

I've done a lot of research over the last little while deciding which way to go on a large framed AR after a bad experience with ArmaLite back in the late 90s. It's pretty clear that the SR25 carbines that KAC is making these days are the best .308 ARs available. As soon as they announce that they're taking orders for the ACC with M-Lok i'll be getting in line.

[Sero Sed Serio]

I've been taking a hard look at KAC lately--I am planning a rifle purchase later this year, and while my first choice would probably be a suppressed piston SBR, I just don't think that will work out. The SR 15 looks like an amazing rifle, but my BCM BFH middy ended up running me $1150 with a Larue handguard. From what I hear, the main advantages of the KAC are top notch quality, smooth shooting, and light weight. Am I wrong to assume that reliability and service life between these two rifles would be similar? Is there something about the KAC that makes it more durable or more reliable than a BCM or rifle of similar quality? Or is the extra cost mostly for refinement? I'm not opposed to spending more for quality, nor am I trying to start a "just as good as at half the price..." argument, just trying to learn more about KAC's juice, and if it's worth the squeeze for my needs.

[LittleLebowski]

Were I carrying a gun for a living, I'd take a new KAC in a heartbeat. I am definitely aware of some of the past problems but am also aware of the improvements the company has made.

[StraitR]

And this is where the wheels fall off in every discussion about KAC.

KAC and it fans (myself included) will tell you that the E3 bolt design has addressed the longterm durability issues with the standard bolt/barrel extension geometry as well as the cam pin.

Those not impressed, or more often, those that do not/have not owned a KAC with E3 bolt, enter into the discussion saying that they've had no issues with their standard bolt/barrel extension and cam pin in X,XXX rounds.

Then, the dog-pile begins, and a crowd of naysayers run off all but the most stubborn and devout KAC fans. I never stick around myself, because there's enough information out there for people to research and make their own educated decision. In the end, if you're not one to shoot out AR barrels, I'm not sure it would matter. I've never shot an AR to destruction, meaning through high volume, nor do I believe that I ever will, so who am I to tell people that my AR is better than your AR? Meh, just buy what you like, shoot it, and enjoy it.

It's my longtime appreciation of KAC, and probably a little influenced by my geographical location due to increased popularity at local matches, that drove me to purchase my first KAC carbine. I also have a complete Noveske and had a complete BCM before building a 300blk upper over the holidays, but if finances allow, I'll keep buying KAC if at all possible.

For the vast majority of people, the choice of EDC pistol is a much more serious consideration.

[SLG]

Since F2S hasn't stopped by yet, maybe he can shed some light on some of the improvements that have taken place. I assume more people besides drummer would like to hear about how they are better. I certainly would, though I'm not in the AR market right now. I'm also missing SHOT this year, or I'd be hanging out with him tomorrow, shooting some new ones:-(

[StraitR]

Since F2S hasn't stopped by yet, maybe he can shed some light on some of the improvements that have taken place. I assume more people besides drummer would like to hear about how they are better. I certainly would, though I'm not in the AR market right now. I'm also missing SHOT this year, or I'd be hanging out with him tomorrow, shooting some new ones:-(

That's a bummer, as I always look forward to your honest take on the new hotness at SHOT.

[SLG]

That's a bummer, as I always look forward to your honest take on the new hotness at SHOT.

I really appreciate that, but there are probably way more people who will do a product review justice compared to me. I like seeing the new stuff, but I really go to SHOT in order to see friends from all over the country that i can't see regularly. Work just won't slow down this year, and going to SHOT is secondary to getting the job done. So, I hope whoever of you is going, has a blast, and please say hi for me!

[Sero Sed Serio]

And this is where the wheels fall off in every discussion about KAC.

KAC and it fans (myself included) will tell you that the E3 bolt design has addressed the longterm durability issues with the standard bolt/barrel extension geometry as well as the cam pin.

Those not impressed, or more often, those that do not/have not owned a KAC with E3 bolt, enter into the discussion saying that they've had no issues with their standard bolt/barrel extension and cam pin in X,XXX rounds.

Then, the dog-pile begins, and a crowd of naysayers run off all but the most stubborn and devout KAC fans. I never stick around myself, because there's enough information out there for people to research and make their own educated decision. In the end, if you're not one to shoot out AR barrels, I'm not sure it would matter. I've never shot an AR to destruction, meaning through high volume, nor do I believe that I ever will, so who am I to tell people that my AR is better than your AR? Meh, just buy what you like, shoot it, and enjoy it.

It's my longtime appreciation of KAC, and probably a little influenced by my geographical location due to increased popularity at local matches, that drove me to purchase my first KAC carbine. I also have a complete Noveske and had a complete BCM before building a 300blk upper over the holidays, but if finances allow, I'll keep buying KAC if at all possible.

For the vast majority of people, the choice of EDC pistol is a much more serious consideration.

If this was in response to my post, I apologize--I was trying very hard to avoid being "that guy." I was not taking the position that the BCM is "as good as" the KAC, but instead trying to understand what it is that makes the KAC a better rifle, so that I could make an intelligent decision--are the strengths of the KAC enough to justify the additional cost FOR ME. I have no experience with the KAC, so my goal is to learn, not to argue.

Basically I am looking for a mid-length rifle that is accurate, reliable, and comes with a high quality bolt and barrel that will have a long service life. I have narrowed my choices down to Noveske, BCM, or KAC, and now am trying to educate myself further about the pros and cons of each.

[StraitR]

If this was in response to my post, I apologize--I was trying very hard to avoid being "that guy." I was not taking the position that the BCM is "as good as" the KAC, but instead trying to understand what it is that makes the KAC a better rifle, so that I could make an intelligent decision--are the strengths of the KAC enough to justify the additional cost FOR ME. I have no experience with the KAC, so my goal is to learn, not to argue.

Basically I am looking for a mid-length rifle that is accurate, reliable, and comes with a high quality bolt and barrel that will have a long service life. I have narrowed my choices down to Noveske, BCM, or KAC, and now am trying to educate myself further about the pros and cons of each.

Nah bro, it had nothing to do with your post. And FWIW, the kind of dog-piling I was referring to rarely happens here, unless we're talking HK. ;)

[Sero Sed Serio]

Nah bro, it had nothing to do with your post. And FWIW, the kind of dog-piling I was referring to rarely happens here, unless we're talking HK. ;)

Yeah, but it's okay, because it's HK. Even if I suck, and they hate me.

[ffhounddog]

I like the new KAC guns and will look at another KAC and did at Modern Day Marine, I like em but It is hard to swallow the pill on a KAC right now with prices on Colts and other Factory AR's its hard to grab one unless I was going to carry one day to day then I would look at a KAC along with a few others like FN and Colt.

[shane45]

No doubt the SR25 series are a serious bit of coin. But the SR15 series when you factor in the package is at least on par price wise with other top tier AR's. The real question is if you need a top tier AR. I recommend a colt 6920 day in and day out because it covers most users needs. Going beyond that is probably just diminished returns for most. But some people, like myself, like to know its capabilities are there even if I don't push that envelope. In the case of the SR25, I have had just about all of them. If I could only keep 1 it would be my SR25. Ridiculously reliable, extremely accurate, I just simply have great confidence in that rifle.

5525

[StraitR]

MMmmm dimples. So much win.

[ffhounddog]

No doubt the SR25 series are a serious bit of coin. But the SR15 series when you factor in the package is at least on par price wise with other top tier AR's. The real question is if you need a top tier AR. I recommend a colt 6920 day in and day out because it covers most users needs. Going beyond that is probably just diminished returns for most. But some people, like myself, like to know its capabilities are there even if I don't push that envelope. In the case of the SR25, I have had just about all of them. If I could only keep 1 it would be my SR25. Ridiculously reliable, extremely accurate, I just simply have great confidence in that rifle.

5525

I would get SR-25 ot LMT MWS if I was going to get a .308 rifle in semi. Just because I inow they run.

[Kram]

Bumping this up for more KAC love. I am seriously thinking about purchasing the KAC SR-15 E3 Carbine Mod 2.

[CDFIII]

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I figured this thread needs more pictures! My SR15 Block 1 SBR and my SR25 M-Lok ACC. My ACC has been through a furniture change since this pic. was taken. Probably should take an updated picture. And the orange P-Mag in my SBR just for PF.

[GJM]

Are the M-Lok SR-25 ACC rifles readily available yet -- on GB I have only seen keymod ones?

[Wondering Beard]

Since this thread got back up, I was wondering how well do the SR-15 E3 Carbines running?

I understand that KAC has a slightly longer gas system than your typical midlength and it would seem that using a 14.5" barrel could lead to some trouble; after all, BCM advises to use full power ammo in their 14.5" middies. However, there's a lot that I don't know so I thought I'd ask here and find out more.

[Default.mp3]

Are the M-Lok SR-25 ACC rifles readily available yet -- on GB I have only seen keymod ones?Yes, they've been available for a couple of months now, I believe; the M-LOK ones are simply harder to find. Ayan over at BoltCarrier, who is very active on the KAC subforum over on ar15.com and is one of the few qualified smiths to work on KACs, has 1 M-LOK one available at time of writing: https://www.boltcarrier.com/product/system-sr-25-e2-acc-16-light-profile-barrel-urx-4-m-lok

In comparison, he has 3 of the KeyMod ones available: https://www.boltcarrier.com/product/sr-25e2-advanced-combat-carbine

[Colt191145lover]

I have been blown away by my SR-25 ACC! After I save enough for my optic, I will being after a SR15 Mod 2 M -LOK

[GJM]

I have been blown away by my SR-25 ACC! After I save enough for my optic, I will being after a SR15 Mod 2 M -LOK


Please elaborate on the ACC.

[Colt191145lover]

Sadly I have not got to stretch it out at distance ( no optic). I have got to shoot it next to the LMT MWS with a surefire break and the Larue predator with the BCM gunfighter break and much preferred the the recoil impulse ( subjective ) of the KAC with the MAMS. I'm not a very large person 5'8" and 140 pounds and its very controllable on the few close range drills I have got to do with it. Have only put 150 rounds downrange with it, mainly with Magpul Pmags and no problems there. I have had the keymod rail attachments come loose very quickly and have had to use more locktite and check to make sure everything is tight after shooting.

I'm really ashamed I haven't got to shoot it a lot more , been a busy and expensive year : (

[CDFIII]

The ACC has been a revamp of previous SR25's. It has a new gas system that consists of an fittings and a gas block with an integral key machined into its face to lock into a correlating machined notch in the barrel shoulder. Similar to how HK has it's 416 blocks set up. Instead of using pins or set screws to secure the gas blocks they now use a threaded nut to secure the gas block to the barrel. The idea is that it eliminates all gas leakage from the area increasing reliability.
Of course the bolt carrier has the sand cuts of previous models like the ECC. The bolt itself has been been updated to a double ejector to increase extraction. Barrel is still chrome lined but lighter and no dimples like the EMC/ EEC. Although lighter they are still getting decent groups and some of the factory test targets have been well below MOA.
The new URX4 M-Lok is an excellent hand gaurd it feels great compared to my EEC's URX3. Much slimmer and one piece making it feel solid in your hand.
I may have missed something so if someone with a greater knowledge of KAC feels I made an error please correct my mistake.

[Odin Bravo One]

KAC will never get any love from me. Mostly because F2S works there and I like busting his balls. Or because in '08 I was using a KAC precision semi-auto rifle and really needed it to work. It didn't. I'll let you decide which is why I won't give KAC any love.

[Unobtanium]

KAC will never get any love from me. Mostly because F2S works there and I like busting his balls. Or because in '08 I was using a KAC precision semi-auto rifle and really needed it to work. It didn't. I'll let you decide which is why I won't give KAC any love.

I'm friends with both of you...and am about to make an expensive decision...can we all be friends afterwards?

[Odin Bravo One]

I'm friends with both of you...and am about to make an expensive decision...can we all be friends afterwards?

Not if you buy KAC.

I'd rather my sister be a Whore than my brother shoot a KAC.

[Odin Bravo One]

In all seriousness, buy what you want. A lot has changed at Knight's in th last ten years.

[Mr. Goodtimes]

I have an SR-15 Mod 2 and it's been a phenomenal rifle so far. I've been a huge fan of KAC since the E3 was introduced and I recommend KAC to anyone looking for a quality AR-15. The SR-15 not only offers tangible benefits over other rifles, its actually a great value when you factor in what your getting.

From what I understand the original M110 had some issues, however, those issues have long since been ironed out. The SR-15 IMO represents the pinnacle of top tier 5.56 AR pattern rifles and the SR-25 the same for 7.62 gas guns.

When picking a weapon for duty or serious social purposes, KAC is at the very top of my list.


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[Unobtanium]

Now I'm just stuck on optics...do I plop my MK6 1-6 down on it...or do I run it like a heavy carbine with a T2/CompM4/Eotech/whatever?

[shane45]

My unit is a bit older model, SR25 EMC, but its the only rifle I own (that's not an heirloom) that I love! It just flat runs and I can get .6's out of it for 5 at 100 most of the time. My AR is a SR15 E3 Mod1.

http://bryantarmament.com/pics/emc1.jpg

[Paladin]

I'm a little weird because I don't think Lwrc is super popular around here but I've got an LWRC SPR that's been great and very accurate sub MOA and a KAC SR15 mod2 that has been flawless and it's an MOA gun. I think the KAC is my favorite but both have been great guns and I don't plan on selling either anytime soon.
Rick

[Mr. Goodtimes]

Now I'm just stuck on optics...do I plop my MK6 1-6 down on it...or do I run it like a heavy carbine with a T2/CompM4/Eotech/whatever?

MK6. A 14.5 - 16in gun with an LPV is a sweet setup. When I get my CQB upper my T2 is going on the CQB and I'm going to put either a Khales K16i or Mk6 on top of the 16.


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[StraitR]

The one time I looked through a Mk6 1-6, the illuminated reticle seemed to only work if my eye was perfectly centered in the sweet spot of the eye box. With what seemed like very little movement, it appeared to flicker. Is this a thing with the Mk6, or just me, or the sample unit of one I was playing with?

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The one time I looked through a Mk6 1-6, the illuminated reticle seemed to only work if my eye was perfectly centered in the sweet spot of the eye box. With what seemed like very little movement, it appeared to flicker. Is this a thing with the Mk6, or just me, or the sample unit of one I was playing with?That is a common criticism of the MK6 and MK8.

[SLG]

Just ordered a KAC mod 2. It will be my first personal KAC, as well as the only 5.56 Ive ever run hard. Should be fun, but it sounds like its a bit before it is ready to ship.

[Unobtanium]

The one time I looked through a Mk6 1-6, the illuminated reticle seemed to only work if my eye was perfectly centered in the sweet spot of the eye box. With what seemed like very little movement, it appeared to flicker. Is this a thing with the Mk6, or just me, or the sample unit of one I was playing with?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7ogQfcLOwA

[StraitR]

That is a common criticism of the MK6 and MK8.

Ok, well at least I'm not crazy and/or going blind. *thumbsup*

The video by Unobtanium shows exactly what I experienced. Thanks.


ETA: This thread needs more pics.

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[Ed L]

Some simple Iphone photos.

The SR-25 E2 ACC I have for eval is a work in progress. I selected the flash hider since I do a lot of shooting in a confined indoor range and find extra muzzle blast to be objectionable.

Scope is S&B short dot 1.5-8 power with CQB reticle--I was interested in an optic that was good from close in on out. I would have rather had the scope in 1-8 power, but the reticle is not available in that model. Even tuned down to the lowest power (1.5) with the illumination on it is very quick and very daylight visible.

Mount is a Bobbro.

Rail covers are Magpul type 2 Mlock covers.

Pistol grip is a Magpul MIAD gen 1.5

Current sling is a Blue Force Gear padded Vickers sling.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/eds-stuff/knights%20range_zpsoajgsn0h.jpg

The recoil was not bad for a .308. Still, after some use I replaced the buttstock with a Magpul MOE SL-S stock which I screwed on a .70 Magpul recoil pad. I have not yet had the chance to fire it in this configuration.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i232/eds-stuff/new%20stock_zpspa6ia2lb.jpg

[HCM]

The one time I looked through a Mk6 1-6, the illuminated reticle seemed to only work if my eye was perfectly centered in the sweet spot of the eye box. With what seemed like very little movement, it appeared to flicker. Is this a thing with the Mk6, or just me, or the sample unit of one I was playing with?

It's not you.

[Unobtanium]

I keep seeing SR25's with an RDS and it kindof makes me want to shed weight and do that...I love my MK6 LPV though. So torn.

[Colt191145lover]

I was planing to put a Mk8 CQBSS H27D on mine , but I keep hearing about a super secret Nightforce that has yet to be released...

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Gonna function check it this weekend (we'll see if I can repro the factory sub-MOA performance), then start the World Famous Default.mp3 Paint Job.

https://i.imgur.com/OVaRDxS.jpg

[bravo7]

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https://i.imgur.com/KXV1fjo.png

Source: https://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/M110-UPGRADE-KIT-SLICKSHEET.pdf

Looks like there's skeletonization of the receiver, some kind of AGB access slot, a slightly less complicated handguard, no full ambi receiver still. Anything you can divulge, @Failure2Stop (https://pistol-forum.com/member.php?u=1248)?

[Failure2Stop]

https://i.imgur.com/KXV1fjo.png

Source: https://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/M110-UPGRADE-KIT-SLICKSHEET.pdf

Looks like there's skeletonization of the receiver, some kind of AGB access slot, a slightly less complicated handguard, no full ambi receiver still. Anything you can divulge, @Failure2Stop (https://pistol-forum.com/member.php?u=1248)?

That was a one-off program gun.