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Mr_White
01-08-2016, 11:41 AM
Week 146: Rangemaster Handgun Core Skills Test

Results may be posted until February 8th, 2016.

Designed by: Tom Givens
Range: 3-25 yards
Target: See below
Start position: Holstered, unless otherwise specified
Rounds fired: 40


...when I designed this my goal was to test a balance of speed and precision. I firmly believe that the ability to fire a nice tight fist sized group is great unless it takes you too long to do so and you get shot before you get your rounds off. I also firmly believe that spraying rounds lightning quick but sloppily is just as bad. What I'm looking for is adequate accuracy delivered very quickly.

Target: IALEFI - QP, modified IDPA, or USPSA Metric. There is going to be some variation here since we don't all have the same targets. Ideally, there will approximately be an 8" circle in the high chest surrounded by a "C-zone", and a ~4" circle in the head, surrounded by a roughly 6x6" head box. For the purposes of the Drill of the Week, you may also use a USPSA Metric target, just understand that the lower A-zone goes lower and is a little larger overall than the intended 8" circle, and the upper A-zone is smaller than the intended ~4" circle.

IALEFI - QP: The 8" circle in body and ~4" circle in head are 5 points. The rest of the head and the rest of the 'bottle' are 3 points. Everywhere else is 0 points.

IDPA: Add a ~4" circle to the head. The 8" circle in the body and the ~4" circle in the head are 5 points. The -1 zone in the body and the head box outside the ~4" circle are 3 points. The -3 zone is 0 points.

USPSA Metric: The lower and upper A-zones are 5 points. The B and C-zones are 3 points. The D-zone is 0 points.

Record your time for each string.

String 1 @ 3 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 4 body.
String 2 @ 5 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 3 body and 2 head.
String 3 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in strong hand only, shoot 4 body.
String 4 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in support hand only, shoot 5 body.
String 5 @ 7 yards: Draw and shoot 6 body.
String 6 @ 7 yards: Start with gun at ready loaded with exactly 3 rounds. Shoot 3 body, reload, and shoot 3 body.
String 7 @ 10 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body.
String 8 @ 15 yards: Draw and shoot 4 body.
String 9 @ 25 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body.

Scoring:

Add up your total time
Add up your total points
Divide your points by your time, then multiply by 20 to calculate your Final Score.

80 - 100 = Very Good
100 - 124 = Advanced
125 or more = Master
100 is the "Par Score"

For example, you shoot 180 total points in 35.50 total seconds. 180 points/35.50 seconds = 5.07. 5.07 x 20 = 101.4. Your Final Score would be 101, and you shot Advanced.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Pistol, holster, and concealment used
Time for each string
Total points
Total time
Final score
Anything you noticed


Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

Luke
01-09-2016, 03:54 PM
P30 in a JM AIWB concealed with long sleeve shirt

I had to re shoot string 2 because I put 4 to the body and 1 to the head. It's hard to count and shoot. (That's why there is 3 head shots)

String 6 I started from the draw as my mind skipped the part about from the ready.

Shortened the lower A a hair and the upper is 4x4 roughly. I cut what I thought was an inch off 2 3x5 index cards and then stacked them with what I thought was an inch of overlap.

26.51 total time
198 points
149.37 score

I really really wanted to shoot this clean, threw one at 15 trying to make up for a hideous draw.

This was the first thing I shot today, no dry fire prior earlier. I wanted to shoot it cold and clean. My draws really reall were not on point today. Not sure why. I was really excited to shoot this drill for the first time and glad I did. I feel like I could shoot it a little faster and live with a few C's (aka game it :) ) and get a lot better score.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/hook_setter/251C34AC-5A46-4F8E-8635-1A5C0CFBE9B6_zpscxsrfmgx.jpg (http://s400.photobucket.com/user/hook_setter/media/251C34AC-5A46-4F8E-8635-1A5C0CFBE9B6_zpscxsrfmgx.jpg.html)

D.O.A.F.S.
01-10-2016, 03:39 PM
First Thanks Mr.White for your time in keeping the drill of the week going. I enjoy shooting them and reading the other members results but have never posted. I've made a commitment to myself for 2016 to push my lack luster skills and participate more on this great forum.

M&P Shield 9mm, RCS Phantom Holster, Carhartt Coat

String 1 2.78
String 2 3.83
String 3 1.64
String 4 2.83
String 5 5.89
String 6 6.06
String 7 3.21
String 8 4.62
String 9 4.43

35.29 total time
188 points
106.55 score

Things I took away, I can't count or read. I screwed up string 6 and started from my holster versus from ready. String 5 which requires 6 rounds, I shot 5 and paused, realized I needed another one and sent it. Both mistakes hurt my score but at the end of the day it's a great drill.
5393

MVS
01-10-2016, 03:51 PM
Well for some reason I can't seem to post pictures any more. Not sure what that is about. Anyway,

G19 w/RMR Fricke AIWB holster, Kuhl pullover for concealment.

String 1 2.06
String 2 3.51
String 3 2.87
String 4 4.52
String 5 3.25
String 6 5.73
String 7 2.99
String 8 4.2
String 9 6.35

Total time 35.48
Points 194
Score 109.36

Things I noticed would only be that I need to shoot faster in general as well as working on my speed and accuracy at the 25 yard line and beyond. That was my slowest time as well as the only place I dropped any points.

Mr_White
01-11-2016, 02:36 PM
I feel like I could shoot it a little faster and live with a few C's (aka game it :) ) and get a lot better score.

Probably true. One thing that's always fascinated me about this test is that it uses hit factor-based scoring, which is very unusual in defensive drills and tests. I think it's fun to try shooting it in a few different manners and see how the scores come out.


First Thanks Mr.White for your time in keeping the drill of the week going. I enjoy shooting them and reading the other members results but have never posted. I've made a commitment to myself for 2016 to push my lack luster skills and participate more on this great forum.

You're welcome D.O.A.F.S.! Glad to hear you enjoy them and will be posting more.

Mr_White
01-11-2016, 02:44 PM
Gen3 G34 in a Keeper concealed under a polo shirt.
Used an IDPA target and traced a ~3.5" circle in the head (the outline of my depleted roll of duct tape.)

Times
String 1 @ 3 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 4 body = 1.40
String 2 @ 5 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 3 body and 2 head = 2.03
String 3 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in strong hand only, shoot 4 body = 1.50
String 4 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in support hand only, shoot 5 body = 2.08
String 5 @ 7 yards: Draw and shoot 6 body = 2.03
String 6 @ 7 yards: Start with gun at ready loaded with exactly 3 rounds. Shoot 3 body, reload, and shoot 3 body = 3.09
String 7 @ 10 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 1.49
String 8 @ 15 yards: Draw and shoot 4 body = 2.15
String 9 @ 25 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 2.49

Total time: 18.26 seconds
Total points: 196

Final score: 214

I really enjoy that this particular test is based in hit factor scoring.

MVS
01-11-2016, 06:09 PM
Gen3 G34 in a Keeper concealed under a polo shirt.
Used an IDPA target and traced a ~3.5" circle in the head (the outline of my depleted roll of duct tape.)

Times
String 1 @ 3 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 4 body = 1.40
String 2 @ 5 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 3 body and 2 head = 2.03
String 3 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in strong hand only, shoot 4 body = 1.50
String 4 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in support hand only, shoot 5 body = 2.08
String 5 @ 7 yards: Draw and shoot 6 body = 2.03
String 6 @ 7 yards: Start with gun at ready loaded with exactly 3 rounds. Shoot 3 body, reload, and shoot 3 body = 3.09
String 7 @ 10 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 1.49
String 8 @ 15 yards: Draw and shoot 4 body = 2.15
String 9 @ 25 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 2.49

Total time: 18.26 seconds
Total points: 196

Final score: 214

I really enjoy that this particular test is based in hit factor scoring.

That is insane. Do you think your times would be typical of a USPSA Master level shooter, or are you better at this type of thing than shooting matches?

Mr_White
01-11-2016, 06:46 PM
That is insane. Do you think your times would be typical of a USPSA Master level shooter, or are you better at this type of thing than shooting matches?

As time goes on, I continue to gain perspective about USPSA shooters of various skill levels, but my perception is still incomplete. Plus it does vary and people do however well they do in USPSA through differing combinations of relative strengths. But to the second part of your question - yes, I think I score relatively more highly on the RMHCST than a USPSA match. Big reason is the relative importance of the draw. Six of nine strings on this test include drawing, which is pure profit for me. The draw has a much, much lower impact on scores in USPSA due to the larger amount of shooting compared to the number of draws you do, which is once per stage at the most. Really, a bit less than that because some stages include gun start positions not in the holster (on the table, in the briefcase, etc.) Plus, in the RMHCST, I can use my very slickest hand start position - hands at sides. In USPSA, it is a minority of the time I get to draw that way. There is a ton of 'start sitting in the chair with both hands flat on knees', 'both hands touching your nose', 'both hands on Xs', 'holding the stuffed hedgehog', or whatever of the infinite variations there are to drawing the gun. SHO/WHO shooting probably also does pretty well for me on this test.

MVS
01-11-2016, 09:04 PM
As time goes on, I continue to gain perspective about USPSA shooters of various skill levels, but my perception is still incomplete. Plus it does vary and people do however well they do in USPSA through differing combinations of relative strengths. But to the second part of your question - yes, I think I score relatively more highly on the RMHCST than a USPSA match. Big reason is the relative importance of the draw. Six of nine strings on this test include drawing, which is pure profit for me. The draw has a much, much lower impact on scores in USPSA due to the larger amount of shooting compared to the number of draws you do, which is once per stage at the most. Really, a bit less than that because some stages include gun start positions not in the holster (on the table, in the briefcase, etc.) Plus, in the RMHCST, I can use my very slickest hand start position - hands at sides. In USPSA, it is a minority of the time I get to draw that way. There is a ton of 'start sitting in the chair with both hands flat on knees', 'both hands touching your nose', 'both hands on Xs', 'holding the stuffed hedgehog', or whatever of the infinite variations there are to drawing the gun. SHO/WHO shooting probably also does pretty well for me on this test.

Thanks that actually makes quite a bit of sense.

ST911
01-15-2016, 08:49 PM
Since we're still posting, I shot this test this evening. Cold, no warm up. gen4 G34, full duty gear (ALS 6390).

Run 1: 176pts, 30.29, 116 total
Run 2: 177pts, 26.93, 131 total

jiminycricket
01-16-2016, 03:31 AM
Made a special trip to the range on 1/14/16 just to shoot this drill. So, this was shot cold about a week since my last practice. I've still been too lazy to dry fire, and it shows. My shooting was inconsistent, and there's no reason why I shouldn't have shot it cleaner. I'm especially peeved about the thrown shot from string #7 that nearly landed into the -3 of the idpa target. Things to take home: sleep more than 2 hours the night before, get back into a dry fire routine, and wear a shirt that stays tucked and not blouse.

Shot with a G19 in a Bladetech Phantom under an unzipped Condor jacket at about 4:00

Btw the way, am I the only one who hates sidestepping when drawing? I never feel like I'm graceful when I do so.

1) 20pts / 1.76 / 1.16, 0.19, 0.21, 0.20

2) 25pts / 2.85 / 1.70, 0.17, 0.15, 0.51, 0.32

3) 18pts / 1.53 / 0.60, 0.22, 0.43, 0.29

4) 20pts (I flubbed and shot 4rds instead of 5) 2.15 / 0.54, 0.67, 0.53, 0.41

4) 25pts (reshoot) 2.61 / 0.48, 0.64, 0.44, 0.52, 0.53

5) 30pts / 2.63 / 1.54, 0.19, 0.17, 0.30, 0.23, 0.20

6) 30pts / 3.94 / 0.52, 0.24, 0.26, 2.55, 0.18, 0.19

7) 13pts / 2.29 / 1.66, 0.29, 0.34

8) 18pts / 2.92 / 1.72, 0.37, 0.44, 0.39

9) 13pts / 3.32 / 1.99, 0.67, 0.66

Outcome if reshoot of string #4 were allowed: 192pts / 23.85sec / 161 score

Outcome if stuck with flubbed string #4: 187pts / 23.39sec / 159 score
5489

Tom Givens
01-16-2016, 02:25 PM
Damn! You guys can shoot. It's interesting to see such high scores now after equipment and technique evolved a few more years. Five years ago a score of 150-180 was top tier performance.

A couple of quick observations.

We have so many draws from the holster because we're trying to gauge civilian or plain-clothes police ability to respond to an immediate threat. In public, you are very unlikely to be walking around with a gun at the ready. With that, I consider draw speed to be a primary skill.

We use hit factor scoring to get that balance of speed and accuracy. It was originally called Comstock Count, as it was devised by Walt Comstock in Southern California around 1970 or so. The goal was to reward shooters who shot faster while still getting their hits. Until then, most match stages involved time limits. That's fine for mass training, but not a good gauge of individual skill. If you can get the same hits as me in half the time, you're a better shot.

Glad to see you guys think the test has merit.

miller_man
01-16-2016, 03:04 PM
Well, going to really strive to not just lurk around here and participate in these. That said - here comes the SUCK!! Pretty upset with myself on this one, but putting it out there will only inspire me to put in the time and work to improve.

Stock G19 - amirglo sights, concealment - two longsleeve's + shortsleeve (was cold today!) Dale Fricke Archangel.

1 - 2.88
2 - 3.89
3 - 3.88 1C
4 - 4.84
5 - 5.44 3C
6 - 7.11 2C
7 - 3.79
8 - 6.03 2C 1D
9 - 5.07 1D 1M

Total time - 42.98
Total score - 162
Final score - 75 :mad:

55015502


Somehow managed to head to the range without my mag pouch, so my reload was from my back pocket :confused:. Was in the 30's and slight wind today, I'm a wuss and was kinda cold (never helps my shooting). I've really started to see that my 15-20+ yd shooting really needs work. Really fell off at 10+ today. After I shot this I spent most of my time shooting a 8" plate at 25yds and started to make some progress - got a much better feel of what a good sight picture and trigger press is for that distance. Shooting 5 rnd mags, I was getting to 3-4 hits/mag after a couple of mags. Have a long way to go.

JAD
01-16-2016, 06:06 PM
I really enjoy that this particular test is based in hit factor scoring.

The combination of Comstock and the (for me and my needs) relatively perfect balance of skills is why I like to run this test every time I go to the range. It gives me a great way to very honestly track where I'm at, pick what to improve, and judge the impact of hardware changes.

ST911
01-16-2016, 06:22 PM
Damn! You guys can shoot. It's interesting to see such high scores now after equipment and technique evolved a few more years. Five years ago a score of 150-180 was top tier performance.

A couple of quick observations.

We have so many draws from the holster because we're trying to gauge civilian or plain-clothes police ability to respond to an immediate threat. In public, you are very unlikely to be walking around with a gun at the ready. With that, I consider draw speed to be a primary skill.

We use hit factor scoring to get that balance of speed and accuracy. It was originally called Comstock Count, as it was devised by Walt Comstock in Southern California around 1970 or so. The goal was to reward shooters who shot faster while still getting their hits. Until then, most match stages involved time limits. That's fine for mass training, but not a good gauge of individual skill. If you can get the same hits as me in half the time, you're a better shot.

Glad to see you guys think the test has merit.

I like the test and use it a lot with me and mine. The extent to which it favors speed, and the generosity of the scoring area yield some interesting ways to game and interpret it. For example, I shot my runs at the start of my session, cold in duty gear. I typically shoot this onto an IDPA target rather than the usually bottled Q, scoring -0/5pts, -1/3pts, -3 and below/0pts. I add a smaller head box, and don't bother with a 4-ring.

Run 1: 176pts, 30.29, 116 total. (28x 5pts, 12x 3pts) Run 2: 177pts, 26.93, 131 total. (30x 5pts, 9x 3pts, 1x 0pts). Adding 1 point at only 3.36 sec faster overall increased the score 15pts.

With the large size of the bottled/IALEFI Q, I can get a ragged run at 20-22 sec that looks like this: 140pts, 22sec, 10x 5pts, 30x 3pts, 127 total. Four to five seconds overall isn't much faster when spread out, but is approximately the same score as run #2, shooting like crap. With this test, the devil is very much in the details. Especially in the middle-range.

DEG
01-18-2016, 03:42 PM
Shot this cold this morning (and it was cold...7 degrees when I arrived at the range!). I've never shot this drill before, and I was looking forward to it. No live fire for two weeks, so this was a good way to get back into it.

HK P30 LEM 9mm, Fricke gear IWB, winter coat, no gloves.

Run 1: 198 points, 42.51 time, 93 total
Run 2: 178 points, 29.36 time, 121 total
Run 3: 184 points, 28.50 time, 129 total*

*I made a mistake on run 3, string 2, where I shot 2 x 2 rather than 3 x 2. I added a missed body shot and an additional 0.5 seconds to calculate the score.

Observations:
Run 1 was accurate (dropped one shot) and slooooooooow. I felt a bit rusty after not shooting for a couple of weeks and just focused on making the hits. When I got to the 25 yard portion, I fell into old habits and treated it like a slow fire drill. That ruined my overall time, where it took me 9.52 seconds for 3 rounds! And, I dropped one shot anyway.

Run 2 was faster and I loosened up a bit. String 5 was the issue on this run, where I fired 6 shots as fast as I could but did not track the sights very well. Five of the six went out of the circle. My grip on the P30 still needs some work.

Run 3 brought speed and accuracy together better and felt about right. I made a mistake on string 2 and fired two shots to the 8" circle and 2 shots to the 4" circle. I tried to make up for that in the scoring by adding a body miss (I cleaned the 4" circle shots) and an additional 0.5 seconds to get my total score.

Clobbersaurus
01-21-2016, 12:56 AM
I shoot this on Sunday, twice. I messed up the first test only shooting 39 rounds. Not sure where I messed it up, so I shot the test over and recorded it on the Gopro. Results of test two are below.

Beretta 92D Centurion, JMCK AIWB holster and Blackhawk mag pouches under a knit shirt.

String 1: 2.72 (You can see me short stroke the trigger on the last round)
String 2: 3.21
String 3: 2.21
String 4: 4.38 (I forgot the 5th round and then made it up, costing me huge time!)
String 5: 2.92
String 6: 3.96
String 7: 2.49
String 8: 4.97
String 9: 5.89

Total time: 32.75
Total Points: 187 (I counted 4 C's and one miss - see the end of the video, there were five shots out which I thought one counted as a miss)
Score: 114

This is a fun test, which I will perform again.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhB-WLaQWJo

ST911
01-21-2016, 10:18 AM
Ran again, 3:00 OWB open carry, gen4 G34, EGA Sword holster, IDPA w/ a mod head box. Shooting this run, I tried to push a little harder, splitting the difference needed for a certain -0 hit, and a barely-in-there -1. I think I was pretty close, based on the previous runs.

String1- 1.74
String2- 2.79
String3- 1.52
String4- 2.57
String5- 2.50
String6- 3.60
String7- 1.90
String8- 2.78
String9- 2.93
Total: 22.33
Points: 151 (20x 5pts, 17x 3pts, 3x 0pts)
Score: 135

Previous recent runs:


Run 1: 176pts, 30.29, 116 total. (28x 5pts, 12x 3pts)
Run 2: 177pts, 26.93, 131 total. (30x 5pts, 9x 3pts, 1x 0pts)

Fun test.

Prdator
01-21-2016, 12:24 PM
Gen3 G34 in a Keeper concealed under a polo shirt.
Used an IDPA target and traced a ~3.5" circle in the head (the outline of my depleted roll of duct tape.)

Times
String 1 @ 3 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 4 body = 1.40
String 2 @ 5 yards: Sidestep, draw, and shoot 3 body and 2 head = 2.03
String 3 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in strong hand only, shoot 4 body = 1.50
String 4 @ 5 yards: Start with gun at ready in support hand only, shoot 5 body = 2.08
String 5 @ 7 yards: Draw and shoot 6 body = 2.03
String 6 @ 7 yards: Start with gun at ready loaded with exactly 3 rounds. Shoot 3 body, reload, and shoot 3 body = 3.09
String 7 @ 10 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 1.49
String 8 @ 15 yards: Draw and shoot 4 body = 2.15
String 9 @ 25 yards: Draw and shoot 3 body = 2.49

Total time: 18.26 seconds
Total points: 196

Final score: 214

I really enjoy that this particular test is based in hit factor scoring.



I hate you....;-)

Mr_White
01-21-2016, 05:42 PM
I hate you....;-)

But I love you though Spencer! ;)

Mr_White
01-21-2016, 05:55 PM
It's interesting to see such high scores now after equipment and technique evolved a few more years. Five years ago a score of 150-180 was top tier performance.

That is cool because this is how humanity advances. It's not by reinventing the wheel every generation. We have to stand on the shoulders of the people who came before us and figure out how to reach even higher.


We have so many draws from the holster because we're trying to gauge civilian or plain-clothes police ability to respond to an immediate threat. In public, you are very unlikely to be walking around with a gun at the ready. With that, I consider draw speed to be a primary skill.

Totally agree.


We use hit factor scoring to get that balance of speed and accuracy. It was originally called Comstock Count, as it was devised by Walt Comstock in Southern California around 1970 or so. The goal was to reward shooters who shot faster while still getting their hits. Until then, most match stages involved time limits. That's fine for mass training, but not a good gauge of individual skill. If you can get the same hits as me in half the time, you're a better shot.

I think it's great that you use Comstock/hit factor scoring on this. Par times are a bit of a blunt instrument. I really prefer open-ended scoring for time, and that's one thing I really like about the RMHCST, the FAST, and it's why I prefer the IDPA Classifier to the Hackathorn Standards.


Glad to see you guys think the test has merit.

I absolutely do.


The extent to which it favors speed, and the generosity of the scoring area yield some interesting ways to game and interpret it.

I like the balance myself, at least if shot in good faith by someone who is honestly trying to get good hits at speed. I should try it again trying to go as fast as I can and see how the score comes out for me, even if it's with worse shooting - I do like that kind of scoring experiment. I personally think Comstock/hit factor scoring is pretty good, when used with Minor scoring (which the RMHCST effectively uses.) I can definitely understand the criticism of hit factor scoring when we are talking about Major caliber in USPSA. I think Minor is a good balance though.

HopetonBrown
01-23-2016, 10:37 PM
Pistol, holster, and concealment used: G3 G17, JMCK OWBv1, Gore-Tex shell

Time for each string

1. 2.16
2. 3.62
3. 2.83
4. 2.99
5. 3.43
6. 6.18
7. 3.17
8. 4.4
9. 4.86

Total points

192

Total time

33.64

Final score

114

Anything you noticed

It was depressing.

DEG
01-24-2016, 01:51 PM
Ran this again 2x this morning. I really like this drill.

Pistol, holster, and concealment used: Gen4 Glock 19, Fricke Archangel AIWB, closed front fleece jacket.

String 1
1) 2.37
2) 2.32

String 2
1) 3.52
2) 3.54

String 3
1) 1.87
2) 1.59

String 4
1) 2.63
2) 2.33

String 5
1) 2.98
2) 2.80

String 6
1) 4.06
2) 5.24

String 7
1) 2.78
2) 2.27

String 8
1) 4.46
2) 3.26

String 9
1) 3.48
2) 3.65

Total time
1) 28.15
2) 27.00

Total points
1) 182
2) 170

Final Scores
1) 129
2) 126

I was trying to push myself on time and dropped more shots than I would have liked, especially on the second run. I snagged my draw a couple of times on my pullover, which was a good reminder to _really_ get that garment out of the way. Big difference between shooting the G19 one handed vs the P30 LEM...the Glock trigger felt good, and almost like cheating in comparison :)

BK14
01-25-2016, 01:01 PM
First drill of the week. Really fun, I need a better timer....

I shot this without concealment with a Glock 34 Gen 3 (Lighter springs, mag well, and X300U), out of a Safariland SLS 6280. No concealment.

Shot on a USPSA Metric Target.

String 1: 1.92

String 2: 3.77

String 3: 2.37

String 4: 4.05

String 5: 2.37

String 6: 4.23

String 7: 2.64

String 8: 3.15

String 9: 3.87

Total points: 194 (3 Charlie)

Time: 28.37

Final score: 138

Things noticed:

DOTW is fun. Gonna try to start hitting these now. I need to work on speed out of the SLS holster still (first time using it. Normally use an ALS)

My disclaimer: my timer malfunctioned at 5 times requiring me to reshoot string 6,8, and 9. In those strings that it didn't work, there were 4 Charlies (mostly replaced by my 3 Charlies on good runs) and 1 Delta. Soooo, had my timer worked/I not gotten to get some free practice runs, that wouldn't have gone quite as well.

Range1
01-25-2016, 02:53 PM
Pistol - M&P 9mm Pro Series with cheap red dot; Holster -CompTac OWB; Concealment - Heavy winter jacket
String 1 - 2.72 with 20 points
String 2 - 5.23 with 25 points
String 3 - 3.54 with 20 points
String 4 - 6.78 with 25 points
String 5 - 4.62 with 30 points
String 6 - 7.72 with 30 points
String 7 - 3.28 with 15 points
String 8 - 4.59 with 18 points
String 9 - 7.66 with 13 points
Total points - 196
Total time - 46.16
Final score - 84.922

I really like the red dot but it is going to take some work.

That Guy
01-31-2016, 12:20 PM
Equipment: Walther P99, JMCK IWB holster with 20 degree cant, concealment garments: two thick layers, closed front, drawstroke requires two hands and a snowshovel...

Times:

3.06
4.59
2.60
3.41
4.71
7.75
3.92
4.91
6.37

total time 41.32

total points 178

Final score: 86

Good grief I suck... But this test was fun to shoot and very interesting. I look forward to shooting it again during the summer, when I don't have to fight with my clothes so much.

5720

(Damnit, why is the photo sideways? It's upright when I view it on my computer.)

OnionsAndDragons
01-31-2016, 03:20 PM
G19 from my own gear AIWB, Defoor sights, WPA ammo.

S1: 1.91 C
S2:2.76 C
S3: 2.19 C
S4: 3.67 C
S5: 3.4 C
S6: 4.77 C
S7: 2.66 C
S8: 4.74 C
S9: 7.58 one miss inside bottle

SCORE: 117.57

Pretty satisfied with my overall performance. The three shots farthest left were all the 25yd rounds. I guess I need to do more 20-30yd work.


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bigslim
02-01-2016, 05:07 PM
G19, Raven Phantom Light Bearing, IWB, Concealed under a Tee shirt
Time for each string
String 1: 2.55 clean 20 points
String 2: 3.24 clean 25 points
String 3: 2.60 1 in Pin 18 points
String 4: 3.89 clean 25 points
String 5: 3.25 clean 30 points
String 6: 5.69 1 in Pin 28 points
String 7: 2.87 2 in Pin 11 points
String 8: 4.15 clean 20 points
String 9: 6.59 1 in Pin, 1 outside of Pin 8 points
Total points: 185
Total time: 34.83
Final score: 106
Anything you noticed: This drill really highlighted my lack of practice in both dry and live fire. I was having a tough time getting my grip together and driving the gun.

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G19, Raven Phantom Light Bearing, IWB, Concealed under a tee shirt
Time for each string
String 1: 3.01 clean 20 points
String 2: 3.68 1 in Pin 23 points
String 3: 2.38 clean 20 points
String 4: 4.01 clean 25 points
String 5: 3.32 clean 30 points
String 6: 4.98 3 in Pin 24 points
String 7: 2.86 clean 15 points
String 8: 4.20 clean 20 points
String 9: 5.78 2 in Pin 11 points
Total points: 188
Total time: 34.22
Final score: 109
Anything you noticed:

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Mike

Mickey
02-07-2016, 07:43 PM
Glock 19 Gen4, deisbiens #4 concealed under a hoodie.

String1 3.27
String2 6.24
String3 3.13
String4 4.81
String5 5.98
String6 7.57
String7 4.83
String8 9.52
String9 11.62

Total score 178
Total time 57.03
Total score 62
Things I noticed: I keep dropping the first shot low and left after reload. I need to slow down after reload and not slap the trigger like it owes me money.
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bigslim
02-08-2016, 04:09 PM
Week 146: Rangemaster Handgun Core Skills Test

G19, Raven Phantom Light Bearing, IWB, Concealed under a Tee shirt
Time for each string
String 1: 2.80 clean 20 points
String 2: 3.45 1 in Pin 23 points
String 3: 2.60 clean 20 points
String 4: 4.29 1 in Pin 23 points
String 5: 3.44 1 in Pin 28 points
String 6: 5.02 4 in Pin 22 points
String 7: 3.08 1 in Pin 13 points
String 8: 4.24 1 in Pin 18 points
String 9: 5.63 15 points
Total points: 182
Total time: 34.55
Final score: 105

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Mike