Range afternoon with Nyeti

[GJM]

My wife and I just finished up a great afternoon at the range with Darryl. I was shooting My CZ Shadow, my wife her Glock 34 and Darryl a combo of a S&W four inch model 28 and a 640 Pro J frame, all concealed under a hoodie.

We set up a range of targets, from a PF target, to various USPSA cardboard targets and three steel, eight inch plates. The pattern of the afternoon was slow/precise then fast, or vice versa, and often all in the same drill. We all started with a five shot group to the one inch square on the PF target at about six yards. Then, Darryl had modified a drill we did last session, with some Timmie stuff. Draw to the PF eight inch circle at about five yards, step off the line 45 degrees right, shot to the 3x5, big step right with muzzle averted from the no-shoot, and then three eight inch steel at about 20 yards.

We next set up a drill working fast and precision, with a close target, move to take another target, and finish up on some difficult steel. Darryl started gaming it from the get go, shooting out of position:


http://youtu.be/cntp2k3laI4

I said, if you want to game it, make your reload on the move, and he was like "hell yeah, I want to game it!"

Here is my wife doing the same drill:


http://youtu.be/7rnIIyglbmo

And my turn:


http://youtu.be/xh-aG94C9Ko

We continued to mix it up. Bill drills at 20, draws to the steel at 25, 10 yard plate runs where you had to declare match or race speed before the run. Here is Darryl shooting a 20 yard Bill drill with his model 28:


http://youtu.be/lGVj-LUZy9k

After doing draws at 25 to the steel, I handed Darryl my CZ, and felt like giving someone crack. Here he is at 25:


http://youtu.be/CEh6p3JwdPQ

He actually tried to tell me that it was like a really good LEM trigger, but I just laughed.

We then did some max speed draws at six or seven yards, to make sure we didn't fall into a rut:


http://youtu.be/JNnk5jt1mXs

Towards the end, I surprised Darryl with the lever gun, to give him a go at a Bill drill:

I thought he looked really good - what do you think?


http://youtu.be/h1IbMfIxgaE

My wife followed with one, although she said after, she would have been a little more forward:


http://youtu.be/ZcxSaI4FbDs

I also did one, to make sure I could relate to them:


http://youtu.be/s0s6BtQiydg

Somewhere in there, we did support hand only at 25 yards to the eight inch steel, 25 yard plate only runs, mini Bill drills to the head box at 18 yards, and probably a lot more I forgot.

All in all, a great afternoon amongst friends. I do think Darryl has a bright future as a gamer, 'cause it came to him naturally without any prodding.

[JHC]

Epic day. Nice

[Lyonsgrid]

Awesome stuff....
If you listen close, you can hear Darryl make the happy grunt sound after running the CZ dry.

[voodoo_man]

Super jelly

[JodyH]

A frame capture from the video of nyeti running the first drill:
5209

[Dagga Boy]

Awesome stuff....
If you listen close, you can hear Darryl make the happy grunt sound after running the CZ dry.

I made a better grunt after my first run on the 45-70, which was really good. Of course GJM filmed his feet, so we redid it. Multiple runs on a 16" 45-70 is something where you don't get faster with each run.

Quote of the day from GJM's wife after George missed a plate a lot on one run..."George,,I think your sights are loose". While it was sarcastic it was funny as the perfect wife knew it could not possibly be George screwing up, it must be the gun.

Great day. I am un ashamed in my absolute coveting of GJM's CZ 75 SP 01 Shadow. I also switched ammo in my 640 PRO to 158 +P LSWCHP. I finally hits to the sights. It always shot really low with short barrel 135 Gold Dot.

The hoodie pocket reload is something I need to perfect. George suggested going full gamer with secret sewn in loader pouches.

[GJM]

See what I mean by gaming -- "my first .45-70 run was faster!"

[JAD]

It's really fun watching the 3 .45-70 videos. I know both of the Ms know how to run a thumper; Darryl demonstrates that sometimes you just can't beat inertia.

[Dagga Boy]

For the record, and FWIW (not much), that's actually a pistol-training.com (PTC) target (available from National Target as the Q-PT (http://www.nationaltarget.com/product_info.php/-p-140)) not a PF target. PF doesn't have a target. :)

Why don't we. This needs immediate correction. Maybe a gamer target on one side and a timmie on the other....;)

As far as the 45-70 goes, GJM has exceptional technique. I have exceptional girth. Size does matter....

[LOKNLOD]

Why don't we. This needs immediate correction. Maybe a gamer target on one side and a timmie on the other....;)


It needs to be like that optical illusion where you flip it and it changes.
5210

One way it's a gangster with a gun and the other way it's a bunch of dots for drills.

[Beat Trash]

So... Hm... Bill Drills with a 45-70 Guide Gun....

Not something you hear of often.

Sounds like it was a blast...

[Dagga Boy]

So... Hm... Bill Drills with a 45-70 Guide Gun....

Not something you hear of often.

Sounds like it was a blast...

More like lightning from the front, followed by the thunder. The video does not do the muzzle blast and noise justice. Trust me, you know something serious happened with every press of the trigger.

[rauchman]

Excellent. That 45-70 looks like a thumper.

[JAD]

It needs to be like that optical illusion where you flip it and it

Ooo! We could do a lenticular!

Leave it to pf to come up with a $100 target.

[GJM]

I find the Pistol-Training target to be one of the most useful targets there is, and we hang one almost every range session to shoot dots and other precision oriented drills, like shooting the one inch square.

[Dagga Boy]

I find the Pistol-Training target to be one of the most useful targets there is, and we hang one almost every range session to shoot dots and other precision oriented drills, like shooting the one inch square.

You know its a good day when you can cover the 45-70 holes with a fist, and everybody cleaned the one inch square at 5 yards....including the guy with the snub nose. Training with GJM and his wife is fun because you switch gears constantly from fast to slow precision. In my case, it's like shades of medium through the whole thing, but the idea is there. They also do something Wayne and I do that is missing from when many folks go the range....they do stuff that is hard and nobody likes. Single support hand is usually the one for most folks. I switched to the GJM gamer CZ for the 25 yard support hand stuff.....it helped a lot. Charlie is really good on the single support hand stuff and it is obvious that her level of athleticism is probably a big factor as she looks very comfortable where most don't.

[LSP552]

And now I HAVE to buy a Guide Gun......because thread!

[JodyH]

I'd love a guide gun, but my eyes are bad enough without adding in a detached retina or two.

[GJM]

I'd love a guide gun, but my eyes are bad enough without adding in a detached retina or two.

I think this is yet another example of you being smarter than you look. I can't prove it, but I believe many years of shooting heavy rifles was a big factor in the retina tear I suffered a few years back. I now try to limit that level of recoil. Just about to order 300 grain Federal Trophy Bonded ammo for this Guide Gun, in place of the Garrett ammo I have been using. I haven't shot my .458 Lott and .416 Rigby rifles lately, and have no plans to any time soon. Minimizing .375H&H to miss I always sight in and actual hunting.

[LSP552]

I think this is yet another example of you being smarter than you look. I can't prove it, but I believe many years of shooting heavy rifles was a big factor in the retina tear I suffered a few years back. I now try to limit that level of recoil. Just about to order 300 grain Federal Trophy Bonded ammo for this Guide Gun, in place of the Garrett ammo I have been using. I haven't shot my .458 Lott and .416 Rigby rifles lately, and have no plans to any time soon. Minimizing .375H&H to miss I always sight in and actual hunting.

I HAD a model 70 in .416 Remington Mag and found my personal performance limit was at the .375. The full power .416 in a fairly light rifle was just nuts. A good buddy has a model 70 in .458 and I swear the felt recoil was worse with the .416.

I'd just plink, and plink pigs, with the guide gun. T-Rex loads would be a novelty only...because smarter now.:D

[theJanitor]

I think this is yet another example of you being smarter than you look. I can't prove it, but I believe many years of shooting heavy rifles was a big factor in the retina tear I suffered a few years back.


I was eight and my Grandfather gave me his only rifle, as he no longer hunted. I suffered a major deterioration in my left retina that year. After my eye surgeon stitched up the tears (there were no lasers then), my dad asked if I could still shoot a rifle. He asked my dad what kind of rifle, and dad responded with, "300 weatherby magnum". My surgeon, a very quiet Texan, simply said, 'NO."

[JodyH]

I think this is yet another example of you being smarter than you look.
Thank God for small miracles.