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ranger
12-19-2015, 09:27 PM
I carried a version of the M16-M4 series for a long time. Much of that time doctrine was no sling. I still think I can learn more about "how" to sling a M4. I think I am interested in 2 point versus one point and specifically not 3 point. Can anyone suggest an article, post, video etc. that has good information on how to use a sling and where to attach the sling to the M4 type rifle/carbine?

HCM
12-19-2015, 09:47 PM
Here's a start:


http://youtu.be/AGNUxv9m9nI

Pat Rogers was recommending mounting the sling further in, at the front and rear of the receiver. That was a few years ago though.

I can tell you, running a sling attached to the stock, I greatly prefer attaching the sling to the outside of the stock so it doesn't interfere with your cheek weld. So for a right-handed shooter, looking at the carbine from the rear/operator's perspective you want to swing mounted so it comes out from the right side of the stock and up over the users shoulder.

Wheeler
12-19-2015, 10:34 PM
I've tried the single point route and don't much care for it, I much rather prefer a two point setup similar to what Pat Mac describes. I'll go ahead and be the first to point out that I don't rock it nearly as well as he does. :)

breakingtime91
12-19-2015, 10:49 PM
Two point all the way. I wore mine as a "necklace" during a shitty situation and I am here to type this.

Failure2Stop
12-19-2015, 11:24 PM
I pretty much always attach the rear of the sling on the outboard side of the stock.
Front side switches between just forward of the chamber area and toward the fully forward position.
Each has a benefit in a particular utilization. I find that just forward of chamber has the broadest application range.

Learning what the sling can do in a specific position and application is crucial when deciding where to default mount. These aspects, while able to be discussed, ultimately fall to the individual to decide.

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Unobtanium
12-20-2015, 02:13 AM
I've played with all of them. Single, 3, and 2 point. I strongly prefer the vtac 2 point sling, mounted on the right side of my buttstock, and a few inches forward from the rear of the left side of the rail. This works best for me carrying it as well as performing transitions to support side.

NickDrak
12-20-2015, 02:54 AM
My sling set-up method is pretty much identical to what Mac shows in that video. I run the Frank Proctor "Way Of The Gun" 2-point which is a super simple quick adjust 2-point and I run the QD swivel version attached to the outside of the stock and the inside of the handguard as far out towards the muzzle as it will mount.

I also run mine adjusted with as much slack in the sling as possible so i don't have to wrestle with it during reloads or when shooting from kneeling or prone. You can always make a quick adjustment and tighten it up to support your shooting position if needed.

I also recommend all of our patrol guys store the sling neatly with a "Ranger band" type rubber band around the stock and "S" fold the sling under the Ranger band to keep it from getting hung up on all of the equipment (Steering wheel, gear shifter, laptop computer, rifle rack, etc) while deploying it from the locking rifle rack in our patrol vehicles. I run a Blue Force Gear "Sling Sleeve" tucked under a S.O.B. "Combat Band".

Combat Bands: http://www.breachbangclear.com/combat-bands-from-sob-tactical/

Sling Sleeve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAX2it8FoB8


Here's a start:


http://youtu.be/AGNUxv9m9nI

Pat Rogers was recommending mounting the sling further in, at the front and rear of the receiver. That was a few years ago though.

I can tell you, running a sling attached to the stock, I greatly prefer attaching the sling to the outside of the stock so it doesn't interfere with your cheek weld. So for a right-handed shooter, looking at the carbine from the rear/operator's perspective you want to swing mounted so it comes out from the right side of the stock and up over the users shoulder.

HCM
12-20-2015, 03:22 AM
I also recommend all of our patrol guys store the sling neatly with a "Ranger band" type rubber band around the stock and "S" fold the sling under the Ranger band to keep it from getting hung up on all of the equipment (Steering wheel, gear shifter, laptop computer, rifle rack, etc) while deploying it from the locking rifle rack in our patrol vehicles. I run a Blue Force Gear "Sling Sleeve" tucked under a S.O.B. "Combat Band".

Combat Bands: http://www.breachbangclear.com/combat-bands-from-sob-tactical/

Sling Sleeve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAX2it8FoB8

The sling sleeve looks interesting. I usually S fold my sling and secure it to the stock with a couple of Scrunci hair bands.

Two point quick adjust slings are the way to go. I have used both the VCAS and Blue Force Gear Vickers slings. Both work.

Sean M. Perfectly summarized single point slings - something to the effect of: "single point slings have their place, for most people, that place is in a catalog."

HopetonBrown
12-20-2015, 03:34 AM
I have used both the VCAS and Blue Force Gear Vickers slings. Both work.

You probably meant the VTAC sling, because the Vickers sling is called VCAS.


"single point slings have their place, for most people, that place is in a catalog."

I think it was Vickers that called a single point sling the "pendulum of pain".

Gray222
12-20-2015, 11:11 AM
Viking Tactics Sling (Original)

http://www.vikingtactics.com/product-p/vtac-mk1.htm

I have a black one I put QD mounts on each end, roll up the take up length after you size it for yourself and extend to fully deployed - you can cut it to length if you want a very small take up length to tug on.

This thing works miracles.

HCM
12-20-2015, 01:11 PM
You probably meant the VTAC sling, because the Vickers sling is called VCAS.



I think it was Vickers that called a single point sling the "pendulum of pain".

Yes, the VTAC. It took a few years but we finally got rid of the three point slings at work and replaced them with the VTAC Padded. I was told the original two point quick adjust slang was derived from an old ALICE pack strap. Looking at the padded version of the VTAC and you see the "family" resemblance.