I hate Turkey rant

[RJ]

I hate Turkey.

There, I said it.

As a little boy, we always ate Turkey in November. Later in life, it was always there for the holidays, like some kind of winged specter.

I don't like the taste of Turkey. It's so bad, you have to disguise it with mountains of mashed potato, ladles of gravy, and gobs of cranberry relish.

Turkey leftovers stay in the fridge for days, like an unwelcome Uncle. In my life, I've had to eat Turkey sandwiches, Turkey Soup, Warmed up Turkey. For days. And days.

It takes forever to cook a turkey. Frozen, they take a minimum of two days on the drainboard. Space that could be better used, like, say, to make a plate of chips and salsa. They bake for hours and hours. The house heats up. The smell of Turkey lingers, much like that Uncle.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Tomorrow we're going for Chinese Take Out.

:)

[orionz06]

Turkey is garbage. The number of people who eat it because of some bullshit tradition is nuts. It's a shame to see all the effort made for family to get together and eat a garbage bird. I did a half assed comment poll on Facebook and very few people actually chimed in saying they liked turkey and many of those folks had the caveat that it's an easy meal to fuck up. Deep fried it is pretty decent but nowhere near a well prepared chicken or cornish game hens. My preference is ham. What I found my wife, myself, and two other participants on our meal doing was just eating the plethora of sides. Mother in law does a damned good job of making noodles and then cooking them in turkey broth.

[Clobbersaurus]

While I don't share the turkey hate above, I will admit that cooking a Turkey is a pain in the ass. I do love turkey sandwiches though.

This year at Christmas I am cooking a prime rib. An unabashed stuffing lover, I can't do Christmas without stuffing so I am going to make it as a side dish with fried farmers sausage added.....

[Luke]

I hate turkey. Every once in a while I'll get a good fried turkey, but 95% of the time I hate it.

[orionz06]

I do love turkey sandwiches though



I was gonna say this but I only like them with really good, fresh bread and smothered in gravy. Turns out bread smothered in gravy is what I like, the turkey just keeps me looking a little more civilized.

[BehindBlueI's]

My wife brines the turkey before baking, and it's awesome.

Because this is a gun forum I will now heckle you with "it's the Indian, not the arrow."

[BaiHu]

My wife brines the turkey before baking, and it's awesome.

Because this is a gun forum I will now heckle you with "it's the Indian, not the arrow."

Bingo! I had a g/f a decade back that hated turkey until I made it--eureka moment. Her mother couldn't cook a turkey, but she could rock some Filipino food....Indian, not arrow.

[Nephrology]

My wife brines the turkey before baking, and it's awesome.

Because this is a gun forum I will now heckle you with "it's the Indian, not the arrow."

This is 100% true.

I used to hate Turkey (and indeed I hate almost all turkey unless it is ground or sliced for deli meat), but then I had thanksgiving with some good friends out in Oregon who properly brined it before baking. It was the best bird I've ever had, bar none. Indian and not the arrow indeed.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/11/return-of-the-turkey/417648/
http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2015/11/turkeys-gone-wild/417852/
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/11/turkey-history-world-thanksgiving/417849/

Fear the turkey. Our turkey dinner was great as the turkey was smothered in delicious mushroom gravy. And I love chestnut stuffing.

[BehindBlueI's]

This is 100% true.

I used to hate Turkey (and indeed I hate almost all turkey unless it is ground or sliced for deli meat), but then I had thanksgiving with some good friends out in Oregon who properly brined it before baking. It was the best bird I've ever had, bar none. Indian and not the arrow indeed.

Brined and then smoked is turkey perfection. You'd punch a baby for another slice.

[DamonL]

I heard that ham is the new turkey.

[Gray222]

I enjoy a few pieces of it, but you cannot overdo it. I found 3-5oz of turkey to be a perfect serving along with other thanksgiving related items. No I do not measure it, just an observation.

[JackRock]

I hate Turkey.

Aaaaand, were'e no longer friends. :P

I'm a turkey fiend. I'm that old guy on A Christmas Story (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/) that can't lay off the bird.

[Sadmin]

Try one of these-

http://www.gobblegobble.com/mobile/index.php


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[SamAdams]

I like turkey, - especially hot turkey sandwhiches piled with turkey, dressing, & mashed potatoes with tons of gravy on top. With cranberries on the side - that is deliciousness on your plate :) There's additional satisfaction in going out and bagging a wild turkey for yourself. (Though, admittedly a lot of work compared to buying some factory bird.) For a year or two the guys in the family who traditionally do the holiday cooking, deep fat fried the turkeys. Delicious & moist. The best turkey I'd had. Unfortunately, that was a lot of work & hassle so they went back to the old method. Tends to be dry. -- Though I like turkey, I'll go for prime rib or ham before that.

[SeriousStudent]

Try one of these-

http://www.gobblegobble.com/mobile/index.php


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A most excellent bird. I either get a Greenberg turkey, or a Honey Baked Ham. Then make a bunch of stuffing and mashed taters, and buy a mountain of those Kings Hawaiian Rolls.

A half a box of cigars, and a really good bottle of Single Malt Scotch or small batch Bourbon are also necessities. The new son-in-law is coming along quite nicely. He brought over my quite adorable granddaughter, and a pair of Partagas cigars.

Learning has occurred.

[Jeep]

You'd punch a baby for another slice.

I've got to remember that expression!

[PPGMD]

It takes forever to cook a turkey. Frozen, they take a minimum of two days on the drainboard. Space that could be better used, like, say, to make a plate of chips and salsa. They bake for hours and hours. The house heats up. The smell of Turkey lingers, much like that Uncle.

I put it in the sink covered with water the day before Thanksgiving, it is thawed by the evening when it goes back in the fridge. Cooking doesn't take that long, for me it takes about 3 hours start to finish.

Personally I think most people have had the usual butchered turkeys that are way over cooked, when prepared properly turkey can be as moist and juicy as a chicken. It just takes proper technique, and tools.

ETA: Here is how I make my Turkey.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/good-eats-roast-turkey-recipe.html

[orionz06]

FWIW I've had turkey that has been brined, among other prep methods, and it's just not my thing. Short of General Tso's turkey I've had it most ways.

[Tamara]

As I learned in one of my very first apartments away from home, the definition of "eternity" is "two people and one turkey".

[DocGKR]

Love turkey--but it must be a quality bird and properly prepared.

[Chance]

My father's a Big Green Egg fanatic, and he used that for the turkey this year. It took eight hours, and he did nothing but scrutinize the recipe and pat himself on the back the entire meal, but the meat was outstanding.

[Dagga Boy]

If you hate it, you are doing it wrong....

[ubervic]

While I generally can't get truly excited about turkey, I will tell you that I enjoyed the most perfectly prepared turkey on Thanksgiving day.
Tender, moist, and flavorful, through and through. Truly end all, be all.

Yeah, I got turned on and I admit it.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

I've had terrible turkey before and hated it, but my mom was good at it and my wife is also very good at it, so most of my experiences have been quite good.

But then last year we had a turducken, and then a turkey breast-cranberry sauce-stuffing log. So I'm open to it being done different ways.

If we can get up to the cabin around Christmas my wife would like to do a wood-fired oven turkey. Given her track record I think it would be very good.

[TGS]

I feel sorry for all of you who hate turkey because it doesn't taste good, is too much effort, is too easy to screw up, ect.

I don't feel sorry that you're missing out on a good meal, I feel sorry that you're too bone headed and myopic to admit you're doing it wrong.

Seriously.

Neither I nor my girlfriend are chefs by any stretch of the imagination, and we still cooked an awesome turkey last year (the first time we hosted thanksgiving, to boot). Its really not that hard, and it didn't take any onerous amount of effort. With all the modern cooking equipment available, it's not the bird's fault that you fucked up a thousand year old meal.

ETA: I will say that there isn't anything wrong with a good ham for a holiday dinner. When I was a kid and we had huge 25 person thanksgivings, we'd usually have a ham along with a turkey for those who wanted it. For xmas we'll choose between ham and turkey depending on what we're feeling a particular year.

[Kyle Reese]

Love turkey--but it must be a quality bird and properly prepared.

Ditto. We love turkey!


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[t1tan]

I hate turkey as well, always have. The only way it has ever been tolerable to me is when I was younger my dad would inject it with Cajun seasoning and deep fry, but then I liked it solely for the fact that the seasoning covered up everything else about the turkey.

Turkey was requested this year so we tried a brine of sea salt, black pepper, orange slices and more orange zest, red onion, thyme, maple syrup and garlic, 18 hours and baked at 250° until internal temp reached 145°, then cranked the oven to 475° for about 15 minutes to crisp things up. I was skeptical of the orange but overall as a turkey hater it was edible, everybody else loved it.


I brined salmon in brown sugar, sea salt, black pepper and smoked salmon it over oak and basted with maple syrup and black pepper every hour.

Also got a duck in the fridge which I would have much preferred to have, probably going to do this to it tomorrow.



http://youtu.be/zUT56odqaSY

[JAD]

I like turkey a lot more when there isn't a lot of it. A six pound breast with Ina's herb rub (http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/herb-roasted-turkey-breast-recipe.html) does fine for as many people as I'd ever care to have over and provides sandwich-optimized leftovers.

The best traditional holiday roast for me is Easter lamb (abetted by it being the end of Lent). The worst is definitely Christmas goose -- I've suffered through that in Europe twice, it's like eating lip balm.

[Gadfly]

Cajun fried.

I have had good turkey and bad turkey. Like everyone else said, you have to find a good cook to make it all worth while.


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[perlslacker]

This is more or less my philosophy on turkey:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPGeiPyeEdE

I just cover it in butter, salt, and some spices. Then I use a good instant-read meat thermometer to make sure I don't overcook it. It's about as good a turkey as I've ever had.

Then I make some bomb-ass gravy & cranberry sauce to go with it.

[ReverendMeat]

Turkey is barely worth eating. Hate it, glad I'm not the only one.

[JJC]

I expected this thread to be in cyrillic.

[Guinnessman]

Roasted turkey can be hit or miss depending on the preparation. Several years ago we started frying turkey for Thanksgiving. It gave a consistent result that the family enjoyed, despite their true feelings of the bird.

Enter the Big Green Egg. When the Big Green Egg came into my life it was a true game changer. It gave me that pride of ownership feeling that one gets from a custom 1911 or a Wilson Beretta 92. It arrived in October of 2013, and I had one month to master the Egg before the big show on Turkey Day. The first long cook on the Egg was a bone in turkey breast as a trial run.

After sampling some rubs, and choosing a brine, the first breast was cooked in early November 2013. We had the family over to try out our latest concoction. Everyone loved the turkey. My sister in law who is damn near a vegetarian looks forward to smoked turkey every year!

Next year my wife wants a brisket too.......and I too think it's time to add that to the menu as well. It's time to start a new tradition.

[Al T.]

Scallops wrapped in thick bacon and broiled is my families answer to turkey. Can't stand store bought turkey, wild is a different matter....

[PPGMD]

Also got a duck in the fridge which I would have much preferred to have, probably going to do this to it tomorrow.

We do duck for Christmas, though quite different from how most people make it. We do it as a Persian Fesenjan.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Going for the "picture perfect" bird is in my mind a mistake. A few years back I started basting the bird with a burgundy wine, and then tried honey whiskey. Both give it wonderful but different flavors. It's done right when you grab the drumstick and pull the bone clean out of the meat.

[Robinson]

I admit this thread surprises me. The turkey we make at Thanksgiving is always delicious. And the cold turkey sandwiches made from the leftovers are almost as good as the turkey hot out of the oven.

As others have said, it's all in the preparation. A good brine, proper application of spices and herbs, and care while cooking make for a great outcome. And make sure to let the bird sit for 15 minutes before carving! Yum.

[FNFAN]

If you hate it, you are doing it wrong....

EXACTLY! It's just like eating.... well, this is a family forum.... never mind.

[TGS]

Scallops wrapped in thick bacon and broiled is my families answer to turkey. Can't stand store bought turkey, wild is a different matter....

Bacon wrapped scallops are an hors d'voeuvre prior to the main feast. Ditto bacon wrapped figs with goat cheese, and lox/chive cream cheese spindles. :)


Going for the "picture perfect" bird is in my mind a mistake. A few years back I started basting the bird with a burgundy wine, and then tried honey whiskey. Both give it wonderful but different flavors. It's done right when you grab the drumstick and pull the bone clean out of the meat.

That's a neat idea. We might try that one year.

For us, we put chunks of butter underneath the skin, rubbed the outside of the skin with generic store-bought spices, and cooked the bird in an oven bag.

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What time do you guys have thanksgiving dinner? My family traditionally does it as a dinner instead of supper. My better half's family does it as supper. Fortunately we compromise well and did it at 2pm these last 2 holidays.

[jh9]

I expected this thread to be in cyrillic.

Yeah, I was thinking "Well, I mean, the geopolitical context is a bit too complex to...oh, the bird. Right."

[Guinnessman]

EXACTLY! It's just like eating.... well, this is a family forum.... never mind.

"The heavenly aroma still hung in the house. But it was gone, all gone! No turkey! No turkey sandwiches! No turkey salad! No turkey gravy! Turkey Hash! Turkey a la King! Or gallons of turkey soup! Gone, ALL GONE!"

[Peally]

ITT: Turkey haters.

We also call those sorts of people COMMUNISTS.

[NickA]

"The heavenly aroma still hung in the house. But it was gone, all gone! No turkey! No turkey sandwiches! No turkey salad! No turkey gravy! Turkey Hash! Turkey a la King! Or gallons of turkey soup! Gone, ALL GONE!"
"Sons of bitches! Bumpuses!" ☺

I'm all about some smoked turkey, but traditional roasted turkey, dressing, etc isn't my thing.

[JAD]

What time do you guys have thanksgiving dinner?

Two, following a big late breakfast.

But it hurts my head a little to call it 'dinner.'
http://youtu.be/0mn94S8AQF0

[Stone]

Glad this came up. Bottom line, turkey sucks no matter how you cook it.

[Stone]

ITT: Turkey haters.

We also call those sorts of people COMMUNISTS.

Nah, all the commies are in Wisconsin. They just disguise themselves as turkey lovers...

[PPGMD]

What time do you guys have thanksgiving dinner?

When the Turkey is done.

Typically between 3-4 pm, so a little earlier than normal dinner but not dramatically so.

[Luke]

Me and my wife were talking last night about our mutual hate for turkey. The ONLY person who had ate any turkey that we were sent home with is my dog. He loves it. And he's out of dog food so he really loves it lol.

[RoyGBiv]

Ever used one of these to cook a turkey?
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/24/fryturkeyfry.jpg

I've cooked turkeys every way imaginable.... Roasted, Smoked, Injected, Deep Fried.... I was never a fan. Honestly, I'm not a big fan of poultry, other than Duck. Man... I LOVE smoked Duck.

A few years ago, a buddy owed me $15 for something, I forget why. He shows up at my house one afternoon with a big box on his shoulder, sets the box on my front porch and says "here's the $15 I owe you". Turns out he caught a close out on these cookers and picked on up for $20. Refused to let me pay him the extra $5. So... I figured I owed him a Turkey dinner.

Without a doubt, the best way to cook turkey.
(* 16 pounds or less)

This year we went completely without any fat. No butter, no oil. Not even in the rub/seasoning. A bit of brown mustard before seasoning holds the spices on quite well. Stuff the cavity with aromatics (cut-up oranges, lemons), spices and a few sprigs of fresh Rosemary. Refrigerate for 2 days and drop it in this cooker. Moist, flavorful, crispy skin, excellent turkey.

We've cooked chickens in here several times with excellent results as well. We like it well enough that we have done "Thanksgiving in July".

[Luke]

Your buddy did you a solid.

http://www.amazon.com/Char-Broil-TRU-Infrared-Oil-less-Turkey-Fryer/dp/B001HBI7D8

Just a little more than $15, but still not too bad I guess. Not sure I'll ever buy one but maybe one day.

[JAD]

So a buddy and I decided to do the deep fried turkey thing at his cabin one year. Built a fire outside, filled a stockpot with oil, got it hot, dropped in turkey.

There was once a guy named Archimedes...

We were well away from the cabin, but there was a tree branch at least 20 feed overhead. The flame column managed to ignite it, so we wound up felling the tree (yes, there was a chainsaw readily at hand, and no fire extinguisher) to keep it from lighting the forest up.

I felt like we deserved a Nobel for not felling the tree on the flaming turkey cauldron.

[TGS]

So a buddy and I decided to do the deep fried turkey thing at his cabin one year. Built a fire outside, filled a stockpot with oil, got it hot, dropped in turkey.

There was once a guy named Archimedes...

We were well away from the cabin, but there was a tree branch at least 20 feed overhead. The flame column managed to ignite it, so we wound up felling the tree (yes, there was a chainsaw readily at hand, and no fire extinguisher) to keep it from lighting the forest up.

I felt like we deserved a Nobel for not felling the tree on the flaming turkey cauldron.

Once upon a time I had a summer job working at Pier 1 Imports. I was working two jobs while waiting to go on active duty with the Marines, and didn't really know anything about home decor. Bullshitting suzy home-maker about what colors to go with, or accenting their living room was actually quite amusing to myself. But hey, they needed a dumb guy to lift furniture because it was a few girls and a very flamboyant opera singer. So there I was.....

A gent came in and asked if we had outdoor wicker furniture. "No, sorry sir. They've discontinued that. The only option would be to poly standard wicker furniture, but we don't recommend it for safety reasons."

Gent: "Well, yeah, that's actually why I'm here. Last year I bought some wicker stuff and poly'd it for outdoors. But a couple weeks ago I was frying a turkey on the patio and the wicker furniture caught on fire, and man, did it go up! It ended up catching the side of the house of fire, but fortunately the house was saved. Anyways.....can I see the wicker furniture? I can just poly it."

Some people just aren't meant to learn from their mistakes.

"Right over here, sir....."

[Peally]

Smile and take their money :D

[RJ]

Annual Bump.

Having a spiral sliced ham this year. :)

[Totem Polar]

Annual Bump.

Having a spiral sliced ham this year. :)

Per last year: ham be the new Turkey.

Unless, of course, you're Israeli. Or Ben Franklin. Or an exec at Merk.

[orionz06]

Had a few small pieces of turkey skin with some dark meat attached. Ham should replace the trash bird.


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[Colt191145lover]

Wife has a Venison roast in the crock pot right now :D. I have had good turkey, but its got to be one of the most overrated holday foods of all time.

[Hambo]

I hate Turkey.

Then order a sausage pizza, dude. This is America and you're a grown up. Nobody can make you eat what you don't want to. :cool:

[pangloss]

My wife bought our smallest turkey ever this year, so left overs will be minimal. For people with lots of extra turkey on hand, I suggest buying extra barbecue sauce. Good BBQ sauce covers over a host of sins.

[Crawls]

I love the traditional Thanksgiving meal. I follow the old school Mad Max turkey and gravy receipie and roast/smoke it on a large BGE. The turkey usally turns out fine to perfect, but the gravy is down right phenomenal. I accompany it with a cranberry relish recipe that came from my grandmother that my young twins are learning to make. My wife ties it all together with a cornbread and pecan stuffing that is simply outstanding.
The best part of it is the turkey (and gravy, stuffing and cranberry relish) sandwiches I will eat for the following week.
I agree with the earlier post that it's the Indian not the arrow.

[Drang]

I love the traditional Thanksgiving meal. I follow the old school Mad Max turkey and gravy recipe and roast/smoke it on a large BGE.
The only problem with smoking the turkey in the Big Green Egg that year was that the bird was so phenomenal that the Calico cat that hated people food was teaching herself to open the fridge to get at the leftovers.

Really miss that cat, actually.

[farscott]

A big Thanksgiving meal with turkey and green bean casserole is one of my favorite meals of the year. We never roast one in the oven; it is either smoked after being brined or injected with a seasoning mix and fried. Turkey provides a nice canvas for one to customize to meet particular needs and wants.

[SeriousStudent]

Honey Baked Ham: $72

Braum's Butter Pecan ice cream: Two for $6

Bottle of ridiculously good small batch Bourbon: http://www.guidelive.com/booze-news/2015/11/24/lakewood-brewing-herman-marshall-temptress-whiskey-holidays : $64

Paw-Paw spending Thanksgiving with the granddaughter: Priceless.

[gkieser92]

I have to admit that Thanksgiving day turkey is just okay. However, I've been looking forward to tomorrow's Turkey sandwich for days. No one had better interrupt my turkey sammich and watching The Grand Tour tomorrow.

Now if we stuck with a good spiral ham....life would be perfect.

[TCinVA]

I think turkey suffers from being the most poorly cooked meat item you'll find. Just about every turkey I have ever tasted has been overcooked and dry.

Mine wasn't. I took a breast, brined it, and let it come up to room temperature. Then I liberally applied a mixture of Kerrygold butter, good quality extra-virgin olive oil, garlic, lemon zest, lemon juice, and a blend of sage, parsely, thyme, and rosemary. It was applied under the skin and on top of the skin.

Stuffed the breast in an oven bag with shallots, celery, a head of garlic, a couple of lemons, and a bunch of rosemary.

It came out juicy and delicious...especially the skin, which browned up nicely and tasted awesome.

The way I've had turkey most of my life, I'd much rather have a good ham. Done this way, though, it was good.

EDIT -

Even at it's best, though, turkey can't hope to compare to a good steak. If the pilgrims had access to large chunks of beef like we do, they wouldn't be eating turkey.

[ragnar_d]

I have to admit that Thanksgiving day turkey is just okay. However, I've been looking forward to tomorrow's Turkey sandwich for days. No one had better interrupt my turkey sammich and watching The Grand Tour tomorrow.
This!

[OnionsAndDragons]

Most people screw up turkey pretty royally. You can't just throw it in the oven and expect food to come out in 3-5 hours, that ain't how it works.

Deep fried is pretty nice, and what we had this year. I love me some crispy skin bits.

A good brine and a nice shield on the breast will get you a good bird that I'm fine with. I just roast a couple ducks if I'm captaining the festivities. Duck is the best bird for eating, IMNSHO. But, I'm an odd one that really hates ham. Bacon is the meat of the gods, but ham is gross dog food meat to me.

[Duelist]

I am hunting in the morning. Thought about having a venison roast instead of turkey this year, but the boy wanted turkey, so mama made turkey. But I am hunting in the morning, and still have venison from last years buck. And now I have all this lovely roast turkey - not dried out, have people never heard of oven bags?

We have a lot of food choices in this first world state. A good friend of mine had pizza and cheesecake and wine today. I LOL, but it works for her.

[Pacioli]

I missed this thread last year. Jeez Rich, you must really hate Turkey to resuscitate the thread annually.

I've been using Alton Brown's brine and roasting technique for almost twenty years. It's almost bullet proof. Moist, flavorful meat and crispy skin. We're careful to get a fresh, never frozen turkey. A 12# bird took a little over and hour and half to come to 161 degrees. About the right amount of time to enjoy a Padron 1964 with some single malt. I also make my own vegetable stock for the brine base, so yea I'm pretty over the top into it. And I make my mother's potato yeast roll recipe to go with the meal and for really awesome sandwiches the next day.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/good-eats-roast-turkey-recipe.html

[Hideeho]

I hate turkey. But I make a good one. That's yesterday's maple syrup glazed (drowned in three bottles) on the grill. Moist as can be.
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[Moshjath]

19 pound turkey brined the night before in six liters of Dr. Pepper and a cup of Kosher salt, bbq sauce applied, smoked for 9 hours at 225. One of my favorite meals of the year.11866

[Greg]

I loves me some turkey!

Brined and roasted, smoked or fried.

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This one was cooked in one of my Weber Kettles with just a little apple wood.

[Jim Watson]

While I prefer the Holiday Ham, I like turkey ok. The tryptophan in yesterday evening's turkey got me the best night's sleep in some time. Or was it just the general food overload?
The real treat is Christmas dinner with the friends who go with beefsteak.

[Glenn E. Meyer]

Since the child and hubby are elsewhere, we went out to a nice restaurant. While I like turkey salad and sandwiches - a slab of turkey for dinner isn't my thing. Thus, I got a really nice rack of lamb. No one spotted the firepower setup under the sport jacket. Got to be prepared. :rolleyes:

[Wondering Beard]

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[Lex Luthier]

I have had bad turkey, but have never made bad turkey. If bad turkey runs in your family, it is incumbent upon you to break the cycle.

We use a fresh bird, usually medium sized unless there are lots and lots of guests.

I can heartily recommend this recipe having made it 4 or 5 times over the last 12 years. The gravy prep is a little fussy, but the effort is worth it, and I can guarantee your guests have probably never had anything like it.

Roast Turkey with Pomegranate Gravy (http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/roast-turkey-with-pomegranate-gravy-230980)

[Robinson]

Most years we brine and oven roast a turkey and it turns out delicious. We traveled to see family this year and had smoked turkey. I ate most of the dark meat myself. Yum!

[Mr_White]

I hate Turkey.

There, I said it.

I didn't have time to read this whole thread, but I just don't understand how you can hate a whole country

[Wondering Beard]

I didn't have time to read this whole thread, but I just don't understand how you can hate a whole country

Maybe he's Greek?

[Mr_White]

Maybe he's Greek?

Look I'm not trying to make this a racial thing

[Wondering Beard]

Look I'm not trying to make this a racial thing

A sexual thing then?

[Mr_White]

A sexual thing then?

What are you trying to say, that Greeks are more sexual than Turkmen? Tell that to Cenk Uygur, I would think he get mad, he got real mad when Clinton lost

[Wondering Beard]

What are you trying to say, that Greeks are more sexual than Turkmen? Tell that to Cenk Uygur, I would think he get mad, he got real mad when Clinton lost

I'm not trying to say anything, you brought the country up, then the race thing up, so I'm only trying to figure out your intent ;-)
As to Cent Uygur, he has sex? 'cause that could explain why he got real mad.

So, if we're eliminating, race and sex, what do we have left? sexual orientation? religion? what else?

[Joe in PNG]

So, if we're eliminating, race and sex, what do we have left? sexual orientation? religion? what else?

Glock & HK triggers.

[Wondering Beard]

Aha!

Actually, might it be about Turkish Beretta clones?

[Palmguy]

19 pound turkey brined the night before in six liters of Dr. Pepper and a cup of Kosher salt, bbq sauce applied, smoked for 9 hours at 225. One of my favorite meals of the year.

That is a damn fine looking bird.

[Sasage]

Late to the hate train but yea, turkey is overrated

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[BobLoblaw]

A man's quandary about fried turkey is a stubborn mandible vs euphoria. Once that shit passes the incisors, it's fucking over. If you can fuck up a fried turkey, there's nothing you can't fuck up. If fried turkey existed a little over 200 yrs ago, I'm not certain it wouldn't exist in our constitution.

[Greg]

What are you trying to say, that Greeks are more sexual than Turkmen? Tell that to Cenk Uygur, I would think he get mad, he got real mad when Clinton lost

Cenk Uygur = the sweatiest leftist on YouTube.

I BET he hates Turkey (the bird)

[Mr_White]

race

I choose not to run

[Wondering Beard]

"I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected."

General William Tecumseh Sherman

:-)

[JAD]

Turkey is cheap, which can be nice.

I love the thrill of roasting prime rib for holiday gatherings. I like the adrenalin of sticking four hundred bucks worth of cow in the oven and hoping I don't screw it up again. Plus, red meat on the table keeps the family bloodthirsty and seperates the men from the boys.

[Peally]

I hate steak with a passion and can shoot better than anyone else at my table. Am I a man, boy, or some sort of disturbing hybrid?

If a hybrid which half is the fish half?

[Shoresy]

I hate steak with a passion and can shoot better than anyone else at my table.

"Gentlemen, at 11:35 EST, we identified a sleeper agent in our midst..."

[Joe in PNG]

I hate steak with a passion and can shoot better than anyone else at my table. Am I a man, boy, or some sort of disturbing hybrid?
If a hybrid which half is the fish half?

I'm guessing you have family roots in Innsmouth.

[JAD]

If a hybrid which half is the fish half?

Half man, half horse.

[Mr_White]

Kramer's friend Jay Reimenschneider eats horse all the time. He gets it from his butcher.

[Welder]

I hate steak with a passion

Me, too. Grew up on a beef farm and I had steak and roast twice a day most days. I despise them both. But put a cheeseburger, meatloaf, or stroganoff in front of me and watch out.

[Peally]

Me, too. Grew up on a beef farm and I had steak and roast twice a day most days. I despise them both. But put a cheeseburger, meatloaf, or stroganoff in front of me and watch out.

Shouldn't you're username be DamnTBoneAgain? ;)

[HeadHunter]

I love the dark meat.

[JAD]

I love the dark meat.

Somebody else quote that so I can like it again.

[RoyGBiv]

I love the dark meat.
I prefer the dark meat bird parts too.

[luckyman]

Try one of these-

http://www.gobblegobble.com/mobile/index.php


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Oh man. Just had one of these Greenberg smoked turkeys tonight for a delayed Thanksgiving dinner. Best turkey ever. My Malaysian/Indian wife hates turkey; thinks it is "insipid". She loved this one.

[SeriousStudent]

Greenberg's are awesome.

[TGS]

Bump to the top so I can see all you miserable souls complain about turkey.

Commies.

[RJ]

I hate Turkey.

There, I said it.

As a little boy, we always ate Turkey in November. Later in life, it was always there for the holidays, like some kind of winged specter.

I don't like the taste of Turkey. It's so bad, you have to disguise it with mountains of mashed potato, ladles of gravy, and gobs of cranberry relish.

Turkey leftovers stay in the fridge for days, like an unwelcome Uncle. In my life, I've had to eat Turkey sandwiches, Turkey Soup, Warmed up Turkey. For days. And days.

It takes forever to cook a turkey. Frozen, they take a minimum of two days on the drainboard. Space that could be better used, like, say, to make a plate of chips and salsa. They bake for hours and hours. The house heats up. The smell of Turkey lingers, much like that Uncle.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Tomorrow we're going for Chinese Take Out.

:)

I still hate Turkey.

[Duelist]

I still hate Turkey.

Can't believe you keep your stinky old uncle in the refrigerator.

[RJ]

Can't believe you keep your stinky old uncle in the refrigerator.

My father always said, “Relatives, like Fish, begin to stink after three days.” :cool:

[Maple Syrup Actual]

Well, we did end up doing a turkey in the wood stove for Canadian Thanksgiving (six weeks ago).

I mentioned it on page one, and Erin pulled it off. It was incredible. Slightly smokey.

https://imgur.com/IjkeAmI.jpg


Took up the whole oven.

https://imgur.com/MPp4Rap.jpg


And via the instagramps which has slightly different priorities:

https://imgur.com/ehQrVR3.jpg

[SD]

" that is a very nice looking breasts, I mean turkey ".
Well, we did end up doing a turkey in the wood stove for Canadian Thanksgiving (six weeks ago).

I mentioned it on page one, and Erin pulled it off. It was incredible. Slightly smokey.

https://imgur.com/IjkeAmI.jpg


Took up the whole oven.

https://imgur.com/MPp4Rap.jpg


And via the instagramps which has slightly different priorities:

https://imgur.com/ehQrVR3.jpg

[SD]

This was last years on the egg, tonight just a honey brined breast, do the big bird over the weekend.21851

[Palmguy]

Turkey has some competition here this year:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4571/37713561135_482465cff9_b.jpg

[LOKNLOD]

Turkey is the only non-dessert thanksgiving food that’s worth a shit anyway.

Plain, dry, tender white meat turkey. Yum.

Dressing/stuffing, cranberry crap, a million kinds of cobbled together crapasseroles, yuck.

[Leroy Suggs]

I have never eaten shit, but i suspect it tastes like turkey.

[Maple Syrup Actual]

So...one quirk of tapatalk seems to be that it shows pictures in portrait, previewing the left side.

The picture of Erin basting the turkey is actually a lot more...legitimate...when viewed on something other than a phone.

Anyway here's a a pic I was looking for earlier but didn't find until now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/2fdee0a579da11aed5fd430d98b7e8f1.jpg

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[Guerrero]

The picture of Erin basting the turkey is actually a lot more...legitimate...when viewed on something other than a phone.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Yeah. Totally believe you.

[Darth_Uno]

I have never once in my life thought, "Boy, I could go for some turkey about now."

Last year we grilled steaks, because this is America and I'd rather have a steak, and I bet the Pilgrims would have too if they'd known about mesquite marinade.

[BobLoblaw]

So...one quirk of tapatalk seems to be that it shows pictures in portrait, previewing the left side.

The picture of Erin basting the turkey is actually a lot more...legitimate...when viewed on something other than a phone.

Anyway here's a a pic I was looking for earlier but didn't find until now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/2fdee0a579da11aed5fd430d98b7e8f1.jpg

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I’m guessing interest in the bird is dwindling now for some reason.

[JM Campbell]

***having issues with iPhone after latest update, will try later to attach picture (shows it attaches with upload link to Tapatalk but is blank picture....)

Santa Maria tri tip for the company thanksgiving lunch this last week. Smoked for 2 hours with hickory and oak then seared. Lasted less then 10 minutes at the lunch. 9lbs gone in a flash, next year I’ve been asked to do 20lbs.


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[orionz06]

Still not a fan of the garbage bird.

I'm also annoyed more than I should be by people thinking that turkey puts you to sleep.

[RoyGBiv]

^^^^ Nice baster! :rolleyes:

[Duelist]

So...one quirk of tapatalk seems to be that it shows pictures in portrait, previewing the left side.

The picture of Erin basting the turkey is actually a lot more...legitimate...when viewed on something other than a phone.

Anyway here's a a pic I was looking for earlier but didn't find until now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/2fdee0a579da11aed5fd430d98b7e8f1.jpg

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It's a lovely picture with great lighting.

[RevolverRob]

I have mixed opinions about turkey. Whole birds take forever to cook in an oven and almost never cook well.

Deep fried, grilled, smoked, etc that makes a whole turkey much better, in my opinion.

BUT I love Thanksgiving, it's my favorite holiday. And as such I don't hate turkey. Especially turkey breast. Since it's just the wife and I this year, a turkey breast and a few sides is the plan for today.

[JM Campbell]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171123/624175967029617197d69cae591b79bf.jpg

Finally got the picture to load.


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[Sam]

We had excellent tri-tip, honey baked ham, and turkey. I️ scarfed down the tri-tip and ham. I️ forced myself to eat the turkey. Yuk.

[Robinson]

Our turkey was perfect today. We cooked a smaller bird --about 9 or 10 pounds. In a spicey brine over night, then in the oven for about 3 hours today. Drumsticks were delicious.

[Wendell]

All you guys who "hate turkey": have you ever tried cooking it upside down?

Try it. It makes a world of difference.

[Matt O]

I wonder what the venn diagram looks like for the people who don’t like turkey and those who don’t know how to cook it well.

Smoked a 15# turkey for the annual family feast. Was flavorful, juicy and delicious. Looking forward to leftovers.


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[Cookie Monster]

Cooked at 22 lb bird, we got from a local homesteader/farmer. Worked out good. Best dark meat I’ve had. Carcass is cooking overnight with a bunch of vegatable scrapes to make some broth, should be the good solid when cold stuff.

I gotta make some more cranberries for the upcoming sandwiches.

I can see folks hating the mass produced ButterBall turkey like zombies. I think our bird turned out good this year as it was never frozen, it was walking around Tuesday morning. I re read that and feel like an elitist food snob, bragger.

[Duelist]

Fresh, not frozen 11# Butterball, in a roasting bag, with melted butter and thyme rubbed on the outside and bestween the skin and breast, quartered fresh onions under the bird. Golden, juicy, and delicious.

Yeah, a local farm raised bird might be better. Never tried one. Had a Coues deer roast last year. :)

[Robinson]

Today's cold turkey sammiches were awesome.

[critter]

Today's cold turkey sammiches were awesome.

Yes indeed... Today's culinary delight was turkey/mayo/cranberry sauce sandwiches. I can take or leave "turkey dinner," but the leftover sandwiches rock.

[Cookie Monster]

Today's cold turkey sammiches were awesome.

I’ve had four so far. Yea, just plan good like fighter jets and huge American flags.

[Hemiram]

In my family, there has been at least one every generation that just doesn't like poultry, period. And that's me, my uncle was the last one. I don't understand the appeal. But then again, I hate so many things, like tomatoes (worst thing that people eat that comes out of the ground, IMHO, just gross), cheese (disgusting), most condiments, and anything white and creamy that isn't ice cream. To me, nothing smells or tastes more disgusting than ranch dressing. Nothing. It makes me wretch just to smell it. My mom ate loads of it. Yikes. I never liked milk, ever. I had to be forced to drink it as a kid. I haven't bought any since my mother died, and for myself it's been over 30 years. I think my dairy hatred is why I can be a 61 year old fat guy who isn't diabetic. In my friends I've known many years, the cheese/milk guzzlers all went type 2 by 50. I can eat anything I want, and it's never poultry, Salmon, Tuna, or Trout. Any other fish, I'm in, as long as it's cooked.

I have turned down thousands of dollars worth of free pizza over the years,

Sure, if you fry chicken or turkey, it's tolerable, but if I never eat any of it again, I will die happy. Last time I had chicken was when Long John Silvers put a piece of chicken in with my fish. My dogs were gone, so I ate it, and it was as meh as always.

What did I have for Thanksgiving? Some awesome ham friend rice with extra ham and peapods in it. And for desert? Popcorn.

[Greg]

Turkey is SO AWESOME I'm cooking it again tonight!

Awww YEAH!

[NEPAKevin]

Turkraken?

21997

[Guerrero]

Turkraken?

21997Turthulu

[RJ]

I hate Turkey.

There, I said it.

As a little boy, we always ate Turkey in November. Later in life, it was always there for the holidays, like some kind of winged specter.

I don't like the taste of Turkey. It's so bad, you have to disguise it with mountains of mashed potato, ladles of gravy, and gobs of cranberry relish.

Turkey leftovers stay in the fridge for days, like an unwelcome Uncle. In my life, I've had to eat Turkey sandwiches, Turkey Soup, Warmed up Turkey. For days. And days.

It takes forever to cook a turkey. Frozen, they take a minimum of two days on the drainboard. Space that could be better used, like, say, to make a plate of chips and salsa. They bake for hours and hours. The house heats up. The smell of Turkey lingers, much like that Uncle.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone.

Tomorrow we're going for Chinese Take Out.

:)

Bump.

Planning a couple Ribeyes and bottle of Merlot this week.

Still hate Turkey. :cool:

[Stephanie B]

Bump.

Planning a couple Ribeyes and bottle of Merlot this week.

Still hate Turkey. :cool:

Turkey is a tradition for Thanksgiving. Suck it up and drive on.

[orionz06]

Turkey is still fucking trash. Duck again this year.

[Hambo]

Still hate Turkey. :cool:

Same advice as three years ago: buy a fucking pizza.

I like turkey, but hate Thanksgiving.

[RoyGBiv]

First time ever.

Immediate family eating Chinese.

WINNING!

[blues]

Still hate Turkey.

So do the Kurds. You don't hear them whining.

[luckyman]

Oh man. Just had one of these Greenberg smoked turkeys tonight for a delayed Thanksgiving dinner. Best turkey ever. My Malaysian/Indian wife hates turkey; thinks it is "insipid". She loved this one.

In the 3 years since this post Greenberg has become the family tradition. It’s the turkey “easy button” too.

[Greg]

I was thinking of buying a bunch of Thai food on Wednesday and eating that for Thanksgiving but my dogs would not forgive me if I had.

PLUS - Turkey is good stuff!

[AKDoug]

Turkey is still fucking trash. Duck again this year.

Duck?? WTF, now there's a fucking foul tasting fowl...

[Balisong]

Bump.

Planning a couple Ribeyes and bottle of Merlot this week.

Still hate Turkey. :cool:


I'm so jealous!
Best Thanksgiving I ever had was a few years ago on a cruise. Every Thanksgiving I wear a shirt that has a turkey holding a sign that says "Eat pizza". Perfect shirt for me, because I'm ridiculously in love with pizza, and I have a burning hatred for turkey. But pizza joints tend to be closed on that day. So I've always had to suffer. Until being on a cruise. I've got a pic of me in that shirt, in front of a Thanksgiving display, holding a big ole slice of pizza and a big smile on my face.

Thanksgiving has gone back to sucking since then, although last year's wasn't too bad cuz we flew out Thanksgiving night for another cruise!)

[FNFAN]

I have to admit I like the 2nd turkey meal with creamed gravy over the turkey on stuffing far more than I like the sliced turkey and accouterments.

[UNM1136]

I have posted elsewhere that a friend in the 90s owned a restaurant during the deep fried turkey craze. He still did 2:1 brined/roased to deep fried. Based on sales. I have brined my bird for decades, but now dry brined and spatchcocked is my preference. This year is duck, pan fried and confit. The wife is out of town with the kids and leaving me alone. She hates duck, and I am much more reasonable, and quite the oportunist.

pat

[orionz06]

I have to admit I like the 2nd turkey meal with creamed gravy over the turkey on stuffing far more than I like the sliced turkey and accouterments.
Leftovers are fine, gravy covers up the trashiness of turkey and mashed taters cures the sadness.



I have posted elsewhere that a friend in the 90s owned a restaurant during the deep fried turkey craze. He still did 2:1 brined/roased to deep fried. Based on sales. I have brined my bird for decades, but now dry brined and spatchcocked is my preference. This year is duck, pan fried and confit. The wife is out of town with the kids and leaving me alone. She hates duck, and I am much more reasonable, and quite the oportunist.

pat

I'm smoking mine.

[BehindBlueI's]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWQKc6idm64

[Yung]

I do like it. That might be since I don't have it every Thanksgiving, though I will this time around, and more importantly I think a slice or few of breast meat with potatoes, gravy, and stuffing is more of a regional tradition that can be enjoyed outside the holidays.

On my bucket list, next to going on a damn dove hunt already, is getting my hands on a wild turkey to eat. The consensus among the hunters I've talked to is that it's quite a contrast to what can be found in groceries.

[UNM1136]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWQKc6idm64

Awesome, BBI.

pat

[UNM1136]

Leftovers are fine, gravy covers up the trashiness of turkey and mashed taters cures the sadness.




I'm smoking mine.

So despite hating the bird you are willing to try....good luck to you. Next year's bird, for us will be wild harvested. The bird is not a bad bird, it is how he/she is treated.

If you don't like the bird, you don't like the bird...

Alton Brown's brined bird is good, his spatchcocked bird is better..

And, have you heard?


https://youtu.be/2WNrx2jq184

pat

[BehindBlueI's]

Awesome, BBI.

pat

Babish is one of my favorite channels to watch. Much like Gordon Ramsey, while the odds of me doing anything I see them do hovers at around 0.25% I find it entertaining.

[RoyGBiv]

I'm smoking mine.
I'm a big fan of smoked duck. Planning two for New Years this year. BIL visiting. He's a fan too.

[orionz06]

So despite hating the bird you are willing to try....

As leftovers turkey is a gravy, tater, and stuffing delivery device. As a prepared whole bird it's meh, especially the steroid super turkeys. I like the smaller, wild turkeys, but all sides of my family are obsessed with the massive turkeys.

[farscott]

Unlike most years when I smoke a turkey breast after brining it in a solution of orange juice, garlic, onion, and Cajun seasoning, I am using the excuse of bad weather to be lazy. Picked up a frozen Popeye's "Cajun deep fried" turkey. It is now defrosting in the refrigerator. This is not the first time we have opted for Popeye's turkey for Thanksgiving, so we know what to expect. The leftovers make for excellent sandwiches.

[UNM1136]

Gotcha...and feel a little sorry for ya..

pat

[Robinson]

The leftovers make for excellent sandwiches.

My favorite part of the Thanksgiving meal. Cold turkey sammiches!!!

[Kyle Reese]

We’re cooking up a nice chicken tomorrow. Also not a huge fan of turkey in excess.


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[lwt16]

45297

Cajun turkey breast smoked with applewood.

Regards.

[Obelisk]

If you hate turkey like me then try this recipe to help make it gooder! Turkey dinner casserole!

First cook your turkey!

Remove meat from bird

Grab aluminum tray and spray with cooking spray.

Grab 2-3 cans of cranberry sauce, slice and line bottom of tray

Then add your own stuffing on top or 2-3 boxes of stove top stuffing

Then add turkey

Then add your own gravy or 2 jars of turkey gravy

Then make green bean casserole recipe and add that on top

Add fried onions on top of the green beans

Bake at 350 for close to an hour or so

I don’t make turkey any other way now. It’s the best. All the juices get sucked up by the turkey and stuffing. The cranberry on the bottom is perfect. Best left overs EVER! One throw away dish. Equal portions, and moist!

[UNM1136]

Gonna have to try that cassarole. Also, now that I am a sousvide green belt, the scratch done turducken is on the list. Serious eats has taken all the mystery out of it, and I like turkey, duck, chicken, and stuffing.

Luckily, 'round here turkey and all the trimmings is a Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years tradition. Ooh, smoked turducken....[homer simpson drool]aggghhh[/homer simpson drool]

pat

[Pacioli]

Alton Brown's brined bird is good, his spatchcocked bird is better..pat

After about 2 decades of perfect turkeys thanks to Alton Brown's brine and roasting technique we tried his spatchcock dry age last year. It was fantastic and a 12-14 pound bird cooked in 90 minutes. This year is Tyler Florence's simpler spatchcock method. Liberally apply sage butter between the skin and meat, rub the skin with olive oil, salt and pepper. Can't wait.

[AKDoug]

After about 2 decades of perfect turkeys thanks to Alton Brown's brine and roasting technique we tried his spatchcock dry age last year. It was fantastic and a 12-14 pound bird cooked in 90 minutes. This year is Tyler Florence's simpler spatchcock method. Liberally apply sage butter between the skin and meat, rub the skin with olive oil, salt and pepper. Can't wait.
The secret for me is to try new recipes on weekends after Thanksgiving and after Christmas when the turkeys are cheap and punishment for failure on a non-holiday weekend is minor.

I use Alton Brown's brine recipe before I smoke my turkeys. One day I will try spatchcocking one.

[Lost River]

Wife said she is working Thanksgiving, the two little ones are at the grandparents.

The wife instructed me to cook a ham, I said F That.

I sent the oldest kiddo into town for Chinese this afternoon.

The oldest kid and I are having sesame chicken and fried rice tomorrow.

No dishes, no mess. No problems... :)

Cross posting in daily BS :)

[mtnbkr]

The secret for me is to try new recipes on weekends after Thanksgiving and after Christmas when the turkeys are cheap and punishment for failure on a non-holiday weekend is minor.


Several years ago I walked into a Walmart some time after Christmas when it was still bitter cold (so Jan-Feb timeframe) to find a freezer display of turkeys on sale for $0.15/pound. I bought three turkeys for less than $10.

I fried one, roasted another, and gave the third to a friend of my wife.

Unlike most of the miserable sods in this thread, I *like* turkey. We fix a turkey breast in the crock pot several times a year. I haven't fried one in years though.

Chris

[Cheap Shot]

Bump.

Still hate Turkey. :cool:

Why do you hate America?

[RJ]

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[BobM]

My mom and my aunt had a beef roast to go along with the turkey so I had some of each.

[Hemiram]

I pretty much hate all poultry. It runs in the family, my grandfather, uncle, and myself all dislike(d) it. I can and have eaten it, but I don't understand it's appeal at all. Fried is OK, but I would rather have fish, as long as it's not Tuna, Salmon, or Trout. Those three I hate worse than poultry. Give me ham on Thanksgiving, or hell, just rolls or bread if there isn't any ham. And keep anything with Green Beans in it away from me. Same goes for Cranberry Sauce and anything with cheese in it. No thanks.

[luckyman]

In the 3 years since this post Greenberg has become the family tradition. It’s the turkey “easy button” too.

Well so much for that.

2020 just keeps on giving. Greenberg smoked turkeys shipping facility just burned down; wiped all their whole thanksgiving and Christmas delivery ability.

[Rex G]

The Turks are not our friends.











;)

[RJ]

Ahhh yes...about time to top this thread again.

I hate Turkey.

PS We are taking a nice honey-baked ham up to the fam for the holiday. :cool:

[DDTSGM]

This is 100% true.

I hate almost all turkey unless it is ground or sliced for deli meat

Not a particular turkey lover - don't eat dark meat turkey or chicken - but I do like me some after Thanksgiving or Christmas turkey breast sammwiches. Can't stand deli-sliced turkey breast.

After years of my wife knocking herself out for Thanksgiving dinner we do ham, dressing, cranberry salad, mashed baked potatoes, green bean casserole, pumpkin and pecan pie with ice cream; for Christmas we do a spaghetti dinner with salad, pie and ice cream.

The cranberry salad, and green bean salad are pretty much mine.

[HCM]

Jesus.. y'all are worse than ANTIFA.

[JAD]

Ham on thanksgiving seems vaguely anti Semitic.

We put less and less into thanksgiving every year. Normally, my international customers ruin it by scheduling trade shows and conferences — not an issue this year — and religious holidays get a lot more juice out of us because that’s our thing. We do, however, like a good feast on a Thursday— because why not, it ain’t advent yet — and we are turkey people. We don’t really like it, but by god we do it.

Easter is always lamb, and Christmas is something athletic and special like a rib roast. I am hoping to get a Träger for my birthday so it can be a Smokey Treats Christmas.

[JAD]

You know what sounds really good? Smoked duck. Is that a thing?

[Robinson]

You know what sounds really good? Smoked duck. Is that a thing?

Yes. Yes it is.

[feudist]

You know who else doesn't like turkey?

Godless Communists. Just sayin'...

[ArgentFix]

Ahhh yes...about time to top this thread again.

I hate Turkey.

PS We are taking a nice honey-baked ham up to the fam for the holiday. :cool:

I logged in and scrolled to this particular message just to upvote and reply. I love turkey from Thanksgiving to deli meat. You are a crazy person.

[RJ]

I logged in and scrolled to this particular message just to upvote and reply. I love turkey from Thanksgiving to deli meat. You are a crazy person.

My work this year is done. :cool:

See y’all in 2021. Let’s put this crap year of 2020 behind us.

[RoyGBiv]

You know what sounds really good? Smoked duck. Is that a thing?

It is @myhouse :cool:

I was all #whybother (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=whybother) when Thanksgiving came up a few weeks ago. Daughter replied "It's not Thanksgiving without smoked Duck."

Brought me a tear. :o

[farscott]

It is @myhouse :cool:

I was all #whybother (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=whybother) when Thanksgiving came up a few weeks ago. Daughter replied "It's not Thanksgiving without smoked Duck."

Brought me a tear. :o

There is a lot to be said for how early experiences of the holiday shapes preferences for years to come. I grew up with roast turkey, bread stuffing, green bean casserole, mashed potatoes, and turkey gravy for Thanksgiving, and I still enjoy those foods. Christmas has always been roast beef, usually prime rib or tenderloin. After I married, my wife brought her holiday traditions, including smoked turkey, cornbread dressing, and corn casserole -- the latter I cannot abide. Our daughter loves corn casserole, and it is part of the holidays to her. Needless to say, we have it for both Thanksgiving and Christmas.

We are smoking a turkey breast for Thanksgiving even though I am craving fried turkey, and my wife's parents are doing a ham. There will be mashed potatoes, peas, green bean casserole, and, yes, corn casserole.

[BobLoblaw]

My favorite part of Thanksgiving is a dark, heavy beer with a dark, heavy cigar while checking the frying bird every now and then. Thick cut fried turkey sandwiches are pretty great too. I wanted a fried bird and a smoked bird this year but I guess the smoked bird will have to wait.

[tadawson]

Our family are clearly not mainstream . . . If you are not towards the front of the line to the table, the dark meat is long gone. (If we could get a 4 legged turkey with no breasts, it would be a win!)

Something to do with the white meat tending towards tasteless and often dry . . . .

All the years growing up, Thanksgiving and Christmas were turkey or ham (or both, if a big get together). Never did beef for Christmas until I was with my current wife . . .

[DDTSGM]

Ham on thanksgiving seems vaguely anti Semitic.

Okay, I'll play:
https://media.tenor.com/images/506707884df324197c679a051531cb4c/tenor.gif

[VT1032]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Thanksgiving is a cruel joke. I'm a fatty who loves me some gluttony as much as the next guy but it's like they designed the holiday version of a Chinese buffet jam packed with every food I can't stand imaginable. About the only Thanksgiving foods I end up eating are rolls and green bean casserole. Maybe mashed potatoes.

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[HCM]

Something to do with the white meat tending towards tasteless and often dry . . . .


This is a clue that you are doing it wrong.

The key to turkey is white meat cooks faster than dark meat.

You could cook them separately, or you could insulate the white meat so it cooks slower.


https://youtu.be/AREWEOxVKD8:

[scw2]

Something to do with the white meat tending towards tasteless and often dry . . . .

Spatchcocking an entire bird would help mitigate the dry white meat, though the low fat content is still an issue regardless of how you cook. I've done turkey breast sous vide the last two years and that's come out really well and you don't have to babysit it at all, though there is an extra step to bake the skin.

[Yung]

smoked turkeys
https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-whole-turkey/


Smoked duck
https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-duck-breasts/

[JAD]

[url]https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-duck-breasts/

I hope to make my own, but I did order one for a shut-in buddy.

Looking at it made me hungry for fenalår, but not $88-for-4# hungry.

[luckyman]

https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-whole-turkey/


https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-duck-breasts/

Have you had this brand personally? I had their web site up on my computer when I saw your post.

[Yung]

Have you had this brand personally? I had their web site up on my computer when I saw your post.

Yes. My brother is in New York and sent me some gifts. They have some following in the east coast despite being out of Wisconsin.
Their double-smoked bacon is comparable to Schaller & Weber's.

However, upon further consideration I would instead suggest Eddie Deen. They smoke turkeys likely similar to Greenberg's, as they are also out of Texas. I have no experience with them but learned of them when I first had the privilege of tasting Perini Ranch steak, as both companies have cooked for Texas governors in the in the past.

https://texasbytexans.com/product/eddie-deen-smoked-turkey/

[BehindBlueI's]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5XWqml39qM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq5Pk7RgMEA

[JM Campbell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5XWqml39qM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq5Pk7RgMEA

My man! He does some really good videos with some crazy good Q. Look up his smoked crab legs...


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[luckyman]

Yes. My brother is in New York and sent me some gifts. They have some following in the east coast despite being out of Wisconsin.
Their double-smoked bacon is comparable to Schaller & Weber's.

However, upon further consideration I would instead suggest Eddie Deen. They smoke turkeys likely similar to Greenberg's, as they are also out of Texas. I have no experience with them but learned of them when I first had the privilege of tasting Perini Ranch steak, as both companies have cooked for Texas governors in the in the past.

https://texasbytexans.com/product/eddie-deen-smoked-turkey/

Thanks! I really appreciate the lead!!!!

[olstyn]

Have you had this brand personally? I had their web site up on my computer when I saw your post.

I can't speak for their smoked birds, but their bacon is *excellent*.

[luckyman]

I can't speak for their smoked birds, but their bacon is *excellent*.

Oh man I’m going to have to buy some. I’ve pretty much confirmed that bacon makes my bad cholesterol numbers go up, otherwise I’d be eating it every day. But once every 6 weeks or so is a treat I look forward to ...

[olstyn]

Oh man I’m going to have to buy some. I’ve pretty much confirmed that bacon makes my bad cholesterol numbers go up, otherwise I’d be eating it every day. But once every 6 weeks or so is a treat I look forward to ...

Ahem:

https://store.dieselsweeties.com/collections/bacon-is-a-vegetable

[AKDoug]

In late to this thread.. but I was never a giant turkey fan until introduced to a proper brined bird that I ended up smoking. Good enough that my entire staff at my store procured a 25# locally grown bird that they want me to fix for our company holiday party. I then pick the carcass clean, boil down the bones and left overs to make broth, and make a killer turkey soup and dumplings.

[MistWolf]

It's the green bean casserole I can't stand

[O4L]

Baked turkey...meh.

Smoked turkey...very good.

Fried turkey...effin great!

Also low and slow smoked bone in ham, cornbread dressing, whipped potatoes, giblet gravy, other veggie side dishes, yeast rolls, and my irresistible smoked red beans and rice with jalapeno cheddar cornbread.

There's usually lots of dessert but my favorite is my Mom's pumpkin pie.

[tadawson]

This is a clue that you are doing it wrong.

The key to turkey is white meat cooks faster than dark meat.

You could cook them separately, or you could insulate the white meat so it cooks slower.


https://youtu.be/AREWEOxVKD8:

I'm not doing it at all when I hit that . . . Mine is always moist - but we still prefer dark by a huge margin.

It's when you spend the holiday with others that sometimes the white is both bland *and* dry . . .

[vaglocker]

It's the green bean casserole I can't stand

word

[Nephrology]

Weirdly I rather like green bean casserole.

[MistWolf]

Weirdly I rather like green bean casserole.

Emphasis on Wierd

[Nephrology]

Emphasis on Wierd

Not the first time I have been given such feedback and certainly wont be the last :)

[Yung]

Wait a tic. Is not disapproval of green bean casserole and stuffin' in the minority?

[RoyGBiv]

WifeGBiv makes an awesome green bean casserole. It's a holiday staple. Our friends usually bring stuffing. Sometimes it's the usual stuff zhushed up with bacon and/or butternut squash. Sometimes they make pucks out of it. Sorta like stuffing latkes. Top them with a slice of jellied cranberry sauce and gravy. Mmm..

[JAD]

Wait a tic. Is not disapproval of green bean casserole and stuffin' in the minority?

I love both. We could do a poll.

[DDTSGM]

My grandmother was magic in the kitchen. She made green bean casserole and cranberry salad that were out of this world. For green bean casserole she always used fresh green beans.

My first wife gave my present wife grandma's recipes. First time she made it she used frozen green beans - knocked it out of the park.

You haters, have you tried it with frozen green beans?

[FNFAN]

My grandmother was magic in the kitchen. She made green bean casserole and cranberry salad that were out of this world.

One of my earliest memories is helping Mom grind the cranberry in an iron crank grinder clamped on the table. Finely diced pecans and oranges ground into the mix. Yeeehaw! Some good stuff.

[MistWolf]

Wait a tic. Is not disapproval of green bean casserole and stuffin' in the minority?

Dint say nuffin bout not likin stuffin


...You haters, have you tried it with frozen green beans?

I don't hate'm, just don't like'm. I like them even less in a casserole. I can eat them, but when it sank in I was old enough to choose, I stopped and have felt free ever since!

[Greg]

63034

REPENT SINNERS!

Spatched and smoked! Applewood is great with poultry.

[JM Campbell]

63034

REPENT SINNERS!

Spatched and smoked! Applewood is great with poultry.

Great looking smoke on that bird.

I’m just tired of turkey and chicken, honestly we ate a lot of it growing up because of it being cheaper then other meats. This year it will be wagyu brisket and I’ll throw on a turkey breast for those that want turkey. I’m not a complete heathen. I think next year I’ll do a rib roast or even a lamb rib roast.


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[Yung]

Nice meat, Greg.

[Greg]

Nice meat, Greg.

TWSS

[DDTSGM]

I don't hate'm, just don't like'm. I like them even less in a casserole. I can eat them, but when it sank in I was old enough to choose, I stopped and have felt free ever since!

Gotcha. I grew up on liver once a month. Haven't ate any since I left home for the Marines.

[Half Moon]

Gotcha. I grew up on liver once a month. Haven't ate any since I left home for the Marines.

No Liver Fiesta in Marine chow halls?!? Damn it, I picked the wrong naval service...

[Hemiram]

Going back a long long time, on my Russian side, in every generation, there is at least one guy, and it's always a guy, who just doesn't like poultry. And of course, that's me. My uncle was the last one, my grandfather before him. I don't hate it, but unless it's fried, I don't understand why anyone would want to eat it. Even then, give me fried fish, it's always better than fried chicken or turkey. In my case, besides not liking poultry (and all the other stuff that "tastes like...chicken"), the list of stuff I don't like, well, the stuff I hate is long. The amount of free food and coffee (Yuck is too nice a word to describe the vile stuff)I've turned down is just staggering. Pizza? Oh no. Never. Cheese (My dislike level ranges from "No thanks to Yikes) AND tomatoes, the most disgusting thing to come out of the ground? Mexican? Please. Greek? No no no. I've despised tomato anything since long before I could talk. I would become enraged when my mother would try to feed me spaghetti with tomato sauce on it. Since I couldn't talk yet, I would try to spit it out, refuse to open my mouth, yell, turn bright red and slap the bowl off my high chair, and about the time it finally dawned on my mother it was the sauce I hated, I would yell, "NOOOOO!" at the top of my lungs trying to make her understand how much I hated it. I hate the smell of tomatoes, even more than coffee, which just nauseates me. At 64, my likes and dislikes are beyond set. Life would be so much easier if I just wasn't so picky. But I am what I am, a source of amusement to my coworkers and friends. And yes, I have tried a lot of the stuff I hated as a kid. I still hate them all.

[luckyman]

https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-whole-turkey/


https://www.nueskes.com/applewood-smoked-duck-breasts/

Thanks Yung. We went with this one instead of the Eddie Deen because Deen was wanting something like 65$ for shipping. It was a hit!! The general feedback was Nueskes was maybe even a little better than Greenberg’s, especially for the dark meat. The dark meat reminded me little of ham.

[Greg]

This is for the turkey haters.


https://youtu.be/foA0MGUbYH0

[orionz06]

At first I was expecting a video that was gonna result in me telling you to piss off. Boy am I glad I watched some of it. She's my new favorite chef.

[JHC]

My wife brines the turkey before baking, and it's awesome.

Because this is a gun forum I will now heckle you with "it's the Indian, not the arrow."

Last year I had an expertly brined roast turkey and it was delicious. I don't do tradition foods. I eat what I like. This might have been my first brined turkey.

This year I smoked my first turkey, just a 9 pounder, spatch cocked. Also spectacular. Took about 4 hours at 275 degrees.

I'll eat turkey for days and days after a holiday, loving it.

I've never tasted a deep fried turkey.

[lwt16]

63883

Cherry wood smoked.

63884

Divine.

63885

Swiss cheese on a low carb wrap. Bout the best thing ever.

Regards.

[DDTSGM]

No Liver Fiesta in Marine chow halls?!? Damn it, I picked the wrong naval service...

The last couple years I was stationed at the Marine Barracks for a Naval Ammunition Depot. Our small chow hall won the W P T Hill Award for best small dining facility two years running. I don't think they did liver, ever. I was well-fed, at least for lunch, wife was in charge of supper, and she hadn't won any awards at that point in her cooking career.

[Half Moon]

The last couple years I was stationed at the Marine Barracks for a Naval Ammunition Depot. Our small chow hall won the W P T Hill Award for best small dining facility two years running. I don't think they did liver, ever. I was well-fed, at least for lunch, wife was in charge of supper, and she hadn't won any awards at that point in her cooking career.

Liver Fiesta was at least a once a month horror on my ship. Think small chunks of liver baked with large chunks of slimy bell pepper and onion then let sit in a steam tray for serving. You learn a lot of tricks eating in a navy mess. Many culinary sins can be covered literally by bread and making a sandwich out of things you wouldn't ordinarily sandwich. Hot sauce helps bland become less bland. Et cetera. Nothing helps liver fiesta, NOTHING! And I say this as a person that likes the occasional meal of beef liver and onions.

[MistWolf]

Liver Fiesta was at least a once a month horror on my ship. Think small chunks of liver baked with large chunks of slimy bell pepper and onion then let sit in a steam tray for serving. You learn a lot of tricks eating in a navy mess. Many culinary sins can be covered literally by bread and making a sandwich out of things you wouldn't ordinarily sandwich. Hot sauce helps bland become less bland. Et cetera. Nothing helps liver fiesta, NOTHING! And I say this as a person that likes the occasional meal of beef liver and onions.

The only time the smell of cooking has driven me from the chowhall was when they were doing liver.

Nothing is worse than liver cooked en masse. Nothing.

[RoyGBiv]

Nothing is worse than liver cooked en masse. Nothing.
Ever been to Asia?

[MistWolf]

I have not

[RoyGBiv]

I have not

Stop by your local Asian supermarket and pick yourself up one of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

Pro tip. Cut it up outside. Don't bring it in the house. They are banned in most Asia 4-5 star hotels.
They actually don't taste bad at all, if you can get past the smell.

My buddy describes it as "Eating a bowl of Tapioca ice cream while sitting on the bowl taking the stinkiest dump of your lifetime."

And this stuff absolutely wreaks too.... but the smell spreads less...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

[JAD]

Cho tofu will change your mind about whether the Taiwanese have given up on the notion of chemical warfare.

https://biglittleisland.com/taiwan-stinky-tofu/

[RoyGBiv]

Cho tofu will change your mind about whether the Taiwanese have given up on the notion of chemical warfare.

https://biglittleisland.com/taiwan-stinky-tofu/

A close cousin to Natto.

[RJ]

My work this year is done. :cool:

See y’all in 2021. Let’s put this crap year of 2020 behind us.

#istillhateturkey

[Lex Luthier]

Stop by your local Asian supermarket and pick yourself up one of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian

Pro tip. Cut it up outside. Don't bring it in the house. They are banned in most Asia 4-5 star hotels.
They actually don't taste bad at all, if you can get past the smell.

My buddy describes it as "Eating a bowl of Tapioca ice cream while sitting on the bowl taking the stinkiest dump of your lifetime."

And this stuff absolutely wreaks too.... but the smell spreads less...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natt%C5%8D

It is illegal to bring Durian on public transit on several asian countries.
I've had it a couple times. Worth it if you can stay upwind.

RevolverRob should note that Central Market in Poulsbo used to carry Durian ice cream that was really rather good (and served as a medium-stakes dare).

[Flamingo]

I am doing beef ribs for Thanksgiving.

[JHC]

I am doing beef ribs for Thanksgiving.

On my son's request since he'll get some turkey with in-laws, I'm sleeping out with a smoker tonight (34 degrees) with a brisket at his request to mix things up. But I LOVE roast turkey and not ashamed of it!

[MistWolf]

#istillhateturkey

Get the ever posh South Korean SPAM gift pack

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8a/2c/80/8a2c807afbf19fdede05386a911aadc9.png

and make your own

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-gvPSnH6/0/bd6b14a2/S/i-gvPSnH6-S.jpg

without the turkey

[luckyman]

It is illegal to bring Durian on public transit on several asian countries.
I've had it a couple times. Worth it if you can stay upwind…
Yeah the smell is awful, but if you can get past that it’s not too bad, Except for the taste….And the texture…

[Cookie Monster]

I am doing beef ribs for Thanksgiving.

I got a 5 lb prime rib ready to go. Hell ya.

[jellydonut]

And here I thought this was going to be a thread on the monstrosites of the Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek genocides, and the general wanton destruction in the region emanating from a certain unhinged power..

I think the bird is okay, but it's just a big chicken. Overrated.

[CSW]

Aaaaand, were'e no longer friends. :P

I'm a turkey fiend. I'm that old guy on A Christmas Story (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085334/) that can't lay off the bird.

Same here.

Oven cooking a turkey is always laborious. About 25 years ago we started brining them, then cooking it on a Weber Kettle charcoal grill.
Perfection.
This year, for the first time, I'll be trying the Traeger smoker/grill. It's just my wife, daughter and myself, so we're going with a 10 pound turkey breast. Should take about 3 hours.

[rdtompki]

Best use for turkey are the day after sandwiches: bread, turkey, and cranberry sauce.

[Shoresy]

Best use for turkey are the day after sandwiches: bread, turkey, and cranberry sauce.

Turkey pot pie (especially with a smoked bird) is vastly superior to its chicken equivalent.

[Crawls]

I’m a big fan of smoked turkey (Mad Max Turkey and Gravy style). But this year given the cost of birds at our local grocery store, my turkey looks a lot like an eleven pound pork butt. It’s been on the smoker since 4:00 pm yesterday. I think the left over sammies will be better than ever.

[UNM1136]

I also like turkey, and Green Chile Turkey Enchiladas the following week is AWESOME. Gonna have to try it smoked.

Given the price of birds this year, I got cornish game hens for about $0.87 each and am going to spatchcock and roast, after a dry bine. Might have to try smoking those too.

pat

[Lex Luthier]

Son-in-law has been working with a smoker all summer with intention to have a smoked turkey this year, and they're hosting.
I'm looking forward to it!