Beretta M9-22

[hufnagel]

I picked this firearm up late last night and had a chance to shoot it this morning, so I'd call this a very initial impression.

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First things first... this is NOT a Chiappa. The weight, grip, fit, finish, and overall feel is extremely close to a regular M9/92 series... except it eats .22lr food.

The box says Beretta, the grips have the Beretta trident, the take down is the same, the trigger feels the same, all the controls are the same, even the recoil spring and barrel come out the same. The only give away it's NOT actually made by Beretta is the dust cover marking "Made in Germany by Umarex." The firearm comes with only one magazine, but unlike the conversion kit it will take 15 rounds. No idea what extra magazines cost yet.

On to a bunch of pictures.

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This morning's outing allowed me to put about 150 rounds down range, and I can that I'm extremely happy with this purchase. I've been hunting for a full sized .22lr to practice with, and being a lefty I have certain "needs" for the controls. I've been kicking myself since last Christmas as I was going to pick up the .22lr conversion kit from Beretta when the price was heavily discounted, but I chose not to at that time. Now i'm glad I procrastinated. When I found it it wasn't actually made by Beretta I was a little nervous, but after holding it last night at the dealer I could tell my concerns were unfounded.

If you're at all a Beretta 92 series fan and want something chambered in .22lr, you should give this a look. My cost was, as my dealer said, "5 shekels under 400, all included." I think it's worth every penny.

Comparative specs:

Model M9 22LR 92G
Action Single/Double Single/Double
Barrel length (in) 4.9" 4.9"
Caliber .22 LR 9x19
Grip Width 1.3" (not listed)
Magazine 15 15
Overall height (in) 5.5 5.4
Overall length (in) 8.5 8.5
Overall width (in) 1.52 1.5
Sight radius (in) 6.1 6.1
Weight unloaded (OZ) 26.08 33.3

[StraitR]

Sweet. I've been reading about these from very limited sources, none of which are firsthand customers. Wish it came with a threaded barrel from the factory. Is the barrel solid, in that it can be threaded? I'd buy the Beretta 22lr conversion if it came with a 4.9" barrel that could be threaded. Thanks for the write-up and pics. Looking forward to seeing how these perform as they get some rounds through them.

[hufnagel]

I can tell you that I see no indications that the barrel is anything but one solid mass. It's the same diameter as a regular 9mm barrel and has the same amount of protrusion from the front of the slide. I would say if it's possible to thread a stock 92 barrel to accept a silencer, then the chances are very good you could do the same to the M9 22LR.

I'll keep people apprised as I shoot it more... and I plan on shooting it ALOT more. :)

[stimpee]

I can tell you that I see no indications that the barrel is anything but one solid mass. It's the same diameter as a regular 9mm barrel and has the same amount of protrusion from the front of the slide. I would say if it's possible to thread a stock 92 barrel to accept a silencer, then the chances are very good you could do the same to the M9 22LR.

I'll keep people apprised as I shoot it more... and I plan on shooting it ALOT more. :)

It has been indicated that threaded barrels will be available for the M9-22 in the not too distant future.

[TheNewbie]

Edit-wrong thread

[StraitR]

I can tell you that I see no indications that the barrel is anything but one solid mass. It's the same diameter as a regular 9mm barrel and has the same amount of protrusion from the front of the slide. I would say if it's possible to thread a stock 92 barrel to accept a silencer, then the chances are very good you could do the same to the M9 22LR.

I'll keep people apprised as I shoot it more... and I plan on shooting it ALOT more. :)

The barrel is 4.9", like the standard M9, so it's long enough to thread, but I didn't know if it was solid or sleeved.


It has been indicated that threaded barrels will be available for the M9-22 in the not too distant future.

Good to know. Thanks

[Clobbersaurus]

Neat, thanks for posting. I wasn't aware Beretta was making these.

[Josh Runkle]

Cool. I'll pick one up when a threaded variant comes out.

[tcba_joe]

I didn't know they offered this. How long has this been around?

[Stony Lane]

I just got one. The double action trigger pull is hard. I tried a "D" spring, but had some light hits. Very reliable with original hammer spring - fed all sorts of hollow points and round nose .22s.

[hufnagel]

Update:

So I put another 195 rounds through this pistol today... ran flawlessly. I noted my POA/POI wasn't that great... about 2" low using a cover hold at 10 meters. When I got home I remembered, it shipped with another sight in a little baggie. Upon closer inspection they're numbered 1 and 2... 2 was installed and appears to be taller. I just swapped in #1 and we'll see what happens on the next outing. Note the sights are plastic, for what it's worth.

[StraitR]

Definitely interested in one of these with a threaded barrel. Sounds like the shorter front sight should do the trick. Thanks for the update.

[Dave J]

Can you tell if the holster fit matches a normal Beretta?

ETA: I don't really know why I'm even asking, since it's not like that's going to stop me from buying one in any case :)

[hufnagel]

If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll mount up the beretta shell on my alien gear holster and verify, but honestly I don't see why it wouldn't.

[Dave J]

In my previous experiences with .22LR clones (M&P22, & Advantage Arms kits), there were enough subtle differences in slide width to make some holsters unusable. It was most noticeable with Raven-style Kydex pancakes, but others required a lot of tension adjustment. Fortunately, with some holsters, it didn't matter at all.

[hufnagel]

2015/11/25

Took the kid shooting; him with the Ruger SR22 and Henry Youth .22lr, me with the Beretta M9 22LR. 60 rounds down range, and the #1 sight fixed my alignment problem. HOWEVER, there is some bad news. I just got home and was unpacking, when I discovered the right side decocker/safety lever is GONE. It appears the pin drifted out and the lever fell off without me noticing. I was working through an interesting problem where if you insert the magazine slightly aggressively with the slide open it'll basically 'stovepipe' the top round. I'll post a picture later, but I was able to reproduce it for the first 8 rounds in the mag before I stopped. I think the lips on the mag are a bit too far apart, allowing the body to slip by and stand the top round up.

Right now I'm pretty pissed the lever is gone.

edit:

http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/1125151613a.jpg.small.jpg

The phallic nature of this "failure" is not lost on me.

[R. Bennett]

Hi hufnagel,
I’m Rafe Bennett, VP Product Marketing at Beretta USA. I'm a long time fan of and lurker on this forum. Your thread got me to register so I can try to provide some info here.

First - Thanks for your purchase and review of the M9_22! Our goal was to develop the best possible replica of the Beretta M9 / 92 at a reasonable price. From dimensions to magazine capacity to the means of assembly and dis-assembly we hope we have done this.

Next I'll try to address some of the questions -
Threaded barrels: We have one on the way that can be dropped into the M9_22 pistol. It should be available in the next couple months once they arrive from Germany. We’re also developing suppressor sights for it.
Barrel construction: As noted it is a solid steel barrel. This is one of the key quality points that delivers durability and accuracy on this pistol. While in theory you could thread it, I would recommend waiting for the threaded accessory barrel which should be slightly longer to prevent any suppressor to slide interference.
Holster fit: The external dimensions are identical to an M9 / 92FS so holster fit should be the same. We even use the standard Beretta grip panels on the M9_22 so you can customize to just about any aftermarket M9 / 92FS grips you like.
Malfunctions (per photo). Please let us know what kind of ammo you were using. We will feed it back to R&D and see if we can duplicate it.
Missing Safety lever: Please contact our customer service team and they will either arrange to get your pistol back for replacement or send you replacement parts which ever you like. I will tell them to expect your call / e-mail. They can be reached at 1-800-BERETTA or online at http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/service/
I hope this is helpful info. Thanks for the review and feedback on the M9_22!
Sincerely,
Rafe

[hufnagel]

Thank you, Rafe!

I left a message with ext 2003 this morning... I figure most people are still suffering from turkey coma syndrome so I was going to let it lie until Monday. :)

Ammo in question: Federal 750 lot #1HJ631 (it's the same as Federal 745 http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rimfire.aspx?id=54 just packaged differently for sale at Wal-Mart stores.)

edit: I also just took a moment and tested some other types I have here...
Remington Golden Bullet http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/rimfire/22-rimfire/golden-bullet.aspx
CCI 0030 lot#J29WO8 http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=1&loadNo=0030

both exhibit the exact same failure.

[R. Bennett]

Sorry hufnagel - customer service opens up again on Monday. I'll make sure they look for your message and get back to you ASAP. I already e-mailed them to be on the look out.
Sincerely,
Rafe

[Clobbersaurus]

^^ That is excellent customer service. Well done Beretta!

[Stony Lane]

Mr. Bennett,
What other accessories are planned? Any options for front or rear sights?

[hufnagel]

I'd like to request, before it gets out of hand, that we hold off on asking Mr. Bennett about future bits in this thread until after he and I get my situation resolved? :)

Perhaps a dedicated thread would be more appropriate as well.

[stimpee]

I'd like to request, before it gets out of hand, that we hold off on asking Mr. Bennett about future bits in this thread until after he and I get my situation resolved? :)

Perhaps a dedicated thread would be more appropriate as well.

Don't worry guys, Mr. Bennett is in marketing, so he has lots of free time and can handle many conflicting priorities without any problem. :D

Hi Rafe!:cool:

[JSGlock34]

Is the M9-22 intended to supplant the .22 conversion kit in the Beretta lineup, or will the conversion kit continue to be supported? I'd really like to see a threaded barrel offered for the conversion kit.

[GJM]

Sorry hufnagel - customer service opens up again on Monday. I'll make sure they look for your message and get back to you ASAP. I already e-mailed them to be on the look out.
Sincerely,
Rafe

Rafe, welcome to PF! We met at the Langdon course at Bill's.

There is another Beretta thread you might want to check on in the long gun sub forum.

[R. Bennett]

I'd like to request, before it gets out of hand, that we hold off on asking Mr. Bennett about future bits in this thread until after he and I get my situation resolved? :)

Perhaps a dedicated thread would be more appropriate as well.

No worries hufnagel - I spoke to CS this AM and they are on it. You should hear back from them today.

[LHS]

Now that's some customer service!

[LHS]

I just got one. The double action trigger pull is hard. I tried a "D" spring, but had some light hits. Very reliable with original hammer spring - fed all sorts of hollow points and round nose .22s.

Rimfire primers are hard. I get light strikes when I use my 92 .22LR upper on my Elite frame with Elite I hammer and D spring. When I use a frame with the original spring and hammer, it runs like a top.

[R. Bennett]

Hi all,
Here are a few answers to some other questions posed on this thread…
Accessories:
Grips - You can use any 92 / M9 grips on the M9_22. The M9_22 ships with standard Beretta factory 92FS / M9 grips as found on the 9mm pistols.
Additional Magazines – should be available this month (Dec.)
Sights - the M9_22 uses the same rear sight cut dimensions as all 90 series pistols, the front sight is the same sight cut as the “Vertec” slide so any sights that fit these center-fire guns should fit the M9_22. A word of caution – the slide of the M9_22 is made of aluminum so extreme caution should be used to prevent damage to the slide during installation of any replacement sights, especially those made of steel.
Holsters: Any holster that fits an M9 - 9mm or 92FS 9mm should fit the M9_22
Beretta 92 Series .22LR Practice Kit: The M9_22 is not a replacement for the 92 Series .22LR practice kit. Its slide / barrel / magazine are not interchangeable with the 9mm model and it cannot be used to convert the 9mm model to .22LR. The current practice kit will continue to be supported. Good idea on a threaded barrel for the .22LR Practice Kit. I will feed that into R&D and see if we can generate that option.

[LHS]

I would love to see threaded barrels for the .22 practice kit. I've looked into having mine threaded, but since it requires a thread adapter/extender to clear the slide, pretty much everyone I've talked to is charging $150 to do the job. If Beretta offers a factory threaded barrel for less than that, buying it's a no-brainer. I'd also love to see a .22LR kit that supports the G configuration, and new higher-capacity magazines for it. If you can find a way to make the uppers work with D springs on those hard rimfire primers (which may or may not be possible), that would also rock. I love my .22 kit, since I can use it with my favorite frames, but I'd love to be able to have the same manual of arms, capacity and the ability to mount my suppressor to it.


Hi all,
Here are a few answers to some other questions posed on this thread…
Accessories:
Grips - You can use any 92 / M9 grips on the M9_22. The M9_22 ships with standard Beretta factory 92FS / M9 grips as found on the 9mm pistols.
Additional Magazines – should be available this month (Dec.)
Sights - the M9_22 uses the same rear sight cut dimensions as all 90 series pistols, the front sight is the same sight cut as the “Vertec” slide so any sights that fit these center-fire guns should fit the M9_22. A word of caution – the slide of the M9_22 is made of aluminum so extreme caution should be used to prevent damage to the slide during installation of any replacement sights, especially those made of steel.
Holsters: Any holster that fits an M9 - 9mm or 92FS 9mm should fit the M9_22
Beretta 92 Series .22LR Practice Kit: The M9_22 is not a replacement for the 92 Series .22LR practice kit. Its slide / barrel / magazine are not interchangeable with the 9mm model and it cannot be used to convert the 9mm model to .22LR. The current practice kit will continue to be supported. Good idea on a threaded barrel for the .22LR Practice Kit. I will feed that into R&D and see if we can generate that option.

[JSGlock34]

Mr. Bennett - thanks for responding and welcome to the forum. I'm glad to hear the Practice Kit will continue to be supported. As you can see, I'm not the only one who'd like to see a threaded barrel for the Practice Kit! I hope that the introduction of the M9A3 means factory threaded barrels for the 92 series will also become more widely available.

There's definitely Beretta interest in this forum between the various threads on the 1301 (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?10177-Beretta-1301-Tactical), PX4 (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16519-The-PX4-Compact-might-be-my-DA-SA-Glock-19) and 92 series (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?7408-Beretta-92-FS-Compact-(and-general-Beretta-love-lately)).

[hufnagel]

In a holding pattern; seems there was some snafu with USPS, as I haven't gotten the package yet.

[hufnagel]

Got the package today finally. USPS has done an astonishing thing... I think I could have walked from my house to Capitol Heights, MD and back again in less time than it took for them to get this to me.

I'll report in once I've installed the lever.

1600

lever install complete. was pretty easy. I'll never get that pin out though, as my punch set doesn't go that far down. :D

I put a little red loctite on the pin before install.

Now to get back to shooting it. Another 5,000 rounds of .22lr just showed up for me to make many little holes in paper with. :D

[hufnagel]

Ah... sweet joyful bliss.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20151211/1211151347a.jpg.small.jpg

Pummeled the crap out of the dangling tonsil today. I have one very happy Beretta. :D

2" target at 10 meters and the M9 22LR didn't miss a beat. The ammo however, that's for another thread. The excessively happy to see me round insertion issue continues on another brand of ammo, so I think it's fair to say, it's not the ammo.

Thanks to Rafe and the rest of the Beretta service people for getting me the parts, and the screws. Now... if only someone would put out a serious discount code for christmas, as I want a set of matching wood grips as I have on my 92G. :cool:

[jcmoore2]

2015/11/25

Took the kid shooting; him with the Ruger SR22 and Henry Youth .22lr, me with the Beretta M9 22LR. 60 rounds down range, and the #1 sight fixed my alignment problem. HOWEVER, there is some bad news. I just got home and was unpacking, when I discovered the right side decocker/safety lever is GONE. It appears the pin drifted out and the lever fell off without me noticing. I was working through an interesting problem where if you insert the magazine slightly aggressively with the slide open it'll basically 'stovepipe' the top round. I'll post a picture later, but I was able to reproduce it for the first 8 rounds in the mag before I stopped. I think the lips on the mag are a bit too far apart, allowing the body to slip by and stand the top round up.

Right now I'm pretty pissed the lever is gone.

edit:

http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u356/tehsota/Firearms/1125151613a.jpg

The phallic nature of this "failure" is not lost on me.

hopefull the image shows up rotated at some point. )($)#$ photobucket.

Just experienced the same phallic malfunction with my M9-22. Insert mag with slide locked back, and if the rim of the top round barely touches the ejector just right (or wrong, depending on your perspective), BING, it pops up.

5010

Has Beretta given you any solutions or other feedback?

[wwgeek]

I'm thinking about purchasing this as my first firearm. I felt it today, and felt decent in my hand. Any thoughts/suggestions? Not trying to hijack this thread, just talking about this particular firearm.

[hufnagel]

Do you like shooting a 92/M9 series pistol? Do you want to shoot .22lr? If yes to both then buy it. I have no regrets. I'm confident Beretta will get the mag issue sorted.

[Spoken]

Any update on extra magazines for purchase? I can't seem to find them.

[GreyWolf]

Just wanted to add my two cents.
I purchased my m9 22 on black Friday. Was going to get a 22 conversion kit for the 92. but less than 100 bucks more bought this.

I too had some rounds stovepipe in the beginning. Was usually with first or second round in a full mag. I was loading the mag with 14 and seemed to be OK. Today I was loading all 15 and had no trouble. Possible the spring was a little too stiff being new. (I've shot around 2000-2500 rounds.)

In December, I sent two questions to BerettaUSA support.
First one was about extra magazines purchase. Got the same response about being backordered. Said to keep checking the sight and when available the will add them to the site. No date, just keep checking. (Grrr)

Second question was about Adjustable sights. Yes 92/96 sights will fit BUT in their FAQ's, They don't recommend steel sights on the Aluminum frame.... Also questioned the extra front sight and the difference between the two. Same as you, hufnagel I would like some more elevation, windage seems perfect. Did you change the sights from 2 to 1? Did it help? I have not yet gotten a reply on this one from them.

On Ammo tried different stuff in my safe. The one that this pistol seems to like the best is Federal's Auto match. I fired 3 bricks (325 each) so far and only had 2 misfires. Both had firepin marks, so I would have to blame the ammo.

[PlinkertinMan]

:cool:j

Just wanted to add my two cents.
I purchased my m9 22 on black Friday. Was going to get a 22 conversion kit for the 92. but less than 100 bucks more bought this.

I too had some rounds stovepipe in the beginning. Was usually with first or second round in a full mag. I was loading the mag with 14 and seemed to be OK. Today I was loading all 15 and had no trouble. Possible the spring was a little too stiff being new. (I've shot around 2000-2500 rounds.)

In December, I sent two questions to BerettaUSA support.
First one was about extra magazines purchase. Got the same response about being backordered. Said to keep checking the sight and when available the will add them to the site. No date, just keep checking. (Grrr)

Second question was about Adjustable sights. Yes 92/96 sights will fit BUT in their FAQ's, They don't recommend steel sights on the Aluminum frame.... Also questioned the extra front sight and the difference between the two. Same as you, hufnagel I would like some more elevation, windage seems perfect. Did you change the sights from 2 to 1? Did it help? I have not yet gotten a reply on this one from them.

On Ammo tried different stuff in my safe. The one that this pistol seems to like the best is Federal's Auto match. I fired 3 bricks (325 each) so far and only had 2 misfires. Both had firepin marks, so I would have to blame the ammo.

[PlinkertinMan]

GOOD LUCK SHOOTING THE M9-22
Without the Adjustable Rear Sight.

My pistol is a Dog!
Shoots 1+" Low consistently...

[PlinkertinMan]

Beretta dropped the ball
By Not putting the same Adjustable Rear Sight
On the M9-22,
That is currently on there Practice Kit.

I did swap out the #2 front sight for the #1
That was in the box.
About a 1/2" difference
At 7 yds.

Still 1+" LOW...

BUY THE PRACTICE KIT..

[PlinkertinMan]

Grey Wolf,
Changing the #2 sight to the #1 helped me slightly,
My gun still shoots 1+" Low...

Beretta should have put on the Adjustable Rear Sight,
The ones they currently sell WONT WORK,
STEEL SLIDE vs. ALuminum (UMAREX)
Good Luck!

[Stony Lane]

Any regular Beretta 92 rear sight will fit in the dovetail. I polished up (got it shiny where it would rub) a Novak .305 and slid it in with my sight mover tool with no problem. I want to shoot over the top of the front sight. I might go to a .320 - need more range time.

[ejramirez1]

Hi hufnagel,
I’m Rafe Bennett, VP Product Marketing at Beretta USA. I'm a long time fan of and lurker on this forum. Your thread got me to register so I can try to provide some info here.

First - Thanks for your purchase and review of the M9_22! Our goal was to develop the best possible replica of the Beretta M9 / 92 at a reasonable price. From dimensions to magazine capacity to the means of assembly and dis-assembly we hope we have done this.

Next I'll try to address some of the questions -
Threaded barrels: We have one on the way that can be dropped into the M9_22 pistol. It should be available in the next couple months once they arrive from Germany. We’re also developing suppressor sights for it.
Barrel construction: As noted it is a solid steel barrel. This is one of the key quality points that delivers durability and accuracy on this pistol. While in theory you could thread it, I would recommend waiting for the threaded accessory barrel which should be slightly longer to prevent any suppressor to slide interference.
Holster fit: The external dimensions are identical to an M9 / 92FS so holster fit should be the same. We even use the standard Beretta grip panels on the M9_22 so you can customize to just about any aftermarket M9 / 92FS grips you like.
Malfunctions (per photo). Please let us know what kind of ammo you were using. We will feed it back to R&D and see if we can duplicate it.
Missing Safety lever: Please contact our customer service team and they will either arrange to get your pistol back for replacement or send you replacement parts which ever you like. I will tell them to expect your call / e-mail. They can be reached at 1-800-BERETTA or online at http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/service/
I hope this is helpful info. Thanks for the review and feedback on the M9_22!
Sincerely,
Rafe

Greetings Mr. Rafe Benett,

Do you have any idea when the 15 round 22 LR magazine for the M9 will become available? I just got my M9_22 2 weeks ago and I want to have several magazines for my guns available when going to the firing range. Loading a single magazine just takes time and eats up my time at the range. I just couldn't find any alternative out there so I'm relying on Beretta to provide the magazines. Thank you.

Ed

[hufnagel]

Just an update for everyone else. I went looking for info on spare mags and came across this...


M9-22 Spare Magazines
Answer ID 1023 | Published 02/25/2016 12:32 PM | Updated 02/25/2016 02:35 PM
How can I obtain a spare magazine for my Beretta M9-22?
The part numbers for the magazines are:

519.61 for the M9/M9A1 22LR Magazine in 10 Round Capacity
519.60 for the M9/M9A1 22LR Magazine in 15 Round Capacity

These magazines should become available in Mid-March 2016 and can be ordered through Brownells, Inc.

[LSP972]

Beretta dropped the ball
By Not putting the same Adjustable Rear Sight
On the M9-22,
That is currently on there Practice Kit.



Dunno about that. My "practice kit", with the supplied adjustable rear sight bottomed-out, still shoots HIGH… on both our M9 Commercial and Wilson Brig Tac lowers. I intend to replace that adjustable sight with a standard M9 fixed rear sight; just haven't gotten around to it yet.

BTW, both of the supplied magazines with my "practice kit" also allow the top round to pop up if inserted vigourously with the slide locked back. I bought two more mags from Midway, haven'
t tried them yet, but I suspect they will do the same.

Its a .22 play gun, for Pete's sake; and my "practice kit" is the ONLY .22 conversion kit, of any flavor, both pistol and AR carbine, I have that runs reliably with ANY 40gr or 36gr HP .22 ammunition; both high velocity and not-high velocity. The rest require Mini-Mags to keep "running"; so, gently inserting the magazine is not anything to be concerned about.;)

.

[hufnagel]

The Phallic Phailure wasn't as big a deal to me as the lever losing itself, and Beretta took care of that. I still love the gun, still love shooting it, and still have no regrets on the purchase. As soon as the mag availability issue is resolved (hopefully not costing TOO much) I'll have nothing to concern myself with, other than keeping it fed. :D

Would be nice if they solved the opposite-of-attention-deficit-disorder thing though. :)

[PlinkertinMan]

Hello Again,

I purchased the M9-22 a few months ago.

I have over (4100) rounds thru it to date.
I had a gunny install a beretta adjustable rear sight.
Great Upgrade!
" The Beretta Kit comes this way"

Ok, Review Now!

Accuracy = Excellent
Durability = ???? " My safety ear feel off , I am not,the,Only one?
Double action training = Excellent
Value = Toss up ? "You can buy the Beretta Italian 92 Practice kit for almost the same $$$, and it comes with the $60 Adjustable rear sight.
Overall All Impression:
I Like shooting this clone,the,Most!
I have the Glock " Advantage Arms Kit"
Wish the Gun came with the $60 Rear sight,
And Q.C. problems with the Safety ears falling Off!

I Would definitely have brought the Italian made Kit !
But who knows if there are issues with them...

As stated before, This is my favorite. 22 shooter,
Hope Beretta seeks a repair for the safety's ears fallng off, as others have the same issues...

[Sandy S]

Hey! I'm new to this forum and this will be my first post! My husband bought me the M9-22 in February. Been having issues with accuracy and noticed tonight that the slide is very loose and will "wobble" from side to side quite a bit, maybe .020 inch....mostly at the front end. The frame rail is worn about .005 inch on one side. We also have a 92FS and the slide has no loose movement at all.

Anyone else had this issue with their M9-22? Do I need to contact Beretta and see about sending it in for evaluation?

[rojocorsa]

and being a lefty I have certain "needs" for the controls.

OP, I don't know you from Adam, but you're on to something. The reason the 92 is my go to full size pistols is primarily due to its controls.

[hufnagel]

While I wouldn't feel bad if I were stuck with a 92, my SHTF pistol of choice is an H&K P30. H&K however hasn't seen fit to bless the masses with a .22LR variant of the P30. I still advocate they'd be printing money if they did, and that Beretta really needs some better people in their PR department; even some of the Beretta fans I know didn't know of the existence of the M9-22 until recently!!!

[gwgw60]

I have the M9-A1 (that I now almost like as much as my SIGs), and now have the M9-22. In about 400 rounds so far it's been flawless; no stove pipes and is hitting point of aim at 7-10 yards. I've been using CCI Mini-mags and Remington Thunderbolts. With the success I've had, I'm about to expand into other brands of ammo for compatibility trials.

Except for the lighter 22 recoil, it feels like I'm shooting the M9. I would have to do a side-by side shooting comparison with the M9-A1 to have a chance of discerning other differences. It's close enough I can't tell differences by memory between range sessions.

The M9-22 fits just fine in my Alien Gear M9 holster. All in all I've been extremely pleased with my M9-22 purchase and experience.

[hufnagel]

Updating this thread on an "incident" that i'll be forwarding to Beretta shortly.

Range day today. 300 rounds of CI 40gr RN. On the last box, I had a FTF (had several throughout the day; CI ammo might be clean shooting but it's not very reliable), tried a re-strike with no luck, ejected and added to the "do over" box. It was the last FTF round I had so I loaded it into the magazine as a single, inserted, chambered, fired, and was greeted with a face full of powder/shrapnel/etc. After first securing the weapon I ascertained I was uninjured. Examination of the firearm revealed the slide locked back, no squib in the barrel, shell casing ejected, and no signs of damage to the firearm. I was unable to locate the case in queston as I was surrounded by .22lr cases from the fun I'd been having. I finished off the rest of the box without incident. As I was putting the firearm away I inserted my dummy round (yellow dry wall anchor) and having been giving the incident much thought (exploded case? over charge? some other kind of munition related failure?) I had the thought, was fully in battery? I subsequently tested the firearm with the slide pulled out of battery. To my dismay, no HORROR, the weapon WILL fire with the slide significantly out of battery. With any luck the video link that follows will work:

http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/index.php?twg_album=open&twg_show=SAM_0396.jpg

I'm thinking at this point, the round wasn't fully chambered and I had an out of battery ignition. My concern right now is with the firearm setting off a round when it's possible for it to be THAT far out of battery. I like to use the M9-22 when taking new people to the range, but as of now I have to discontinue that until this problem is resolved.

[hufnagel]

update:

Raf @ Beretta got back to me. They're looking into it and at the video, and will get back to me "ASAP."

https://66.media.tumblr.com/d58ba18c7b490bc6f4a3fbb2597d88c8/tumblr_nzqeahO4Br1rj8mcho1_500.jpg

[threedogdad]

Raf @ Beretta got back to me. They're looking into it and at the video, and will get back to me "ASAP."

Did Beretta ever contact you again or resolve this problem for you?

[hufnagel]

Yes. As of now the firearm has not gone back to Beretta, and has gone on several subsequent range trips without issue.

[hufnagel]

400 rounds down range, all weak handed shooting. Jammed up my strong hand middle finger a week ago; sucker STILL hurts like a mother; decided this was an excellent opportunity to start that weak side training I keep saying I should do. .22lr is great for when you need to crawl before you walk. :D

Gun ran with no issues. had 4 rounds be duds, and no debris in my face.

[JSGlock34]

It has been indicated that threaded barrels will be available for the M9-22 in the not too distant future.

Noticed these on the Beretta website...hopefully this is a sign of increased threaded barrel support throughout the Beretta lineup (with the M9A3 in production, I'd like to think we'll see 92 factory threaded barrels). Threaded barrels for the .22 practice kit would also be a welcome addition, but this is another step in the right direction for Beretta.

Beretta Threaded Barrel for Pistol model M9-22 and M9A1-22 (http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/barrel/)

[hufnagel]

Latest Range outing:
350 rounds of CI22LR40CP down the pipe. No failures that weren't related to the ammo being CRAP.
Probably about time to clean the thing. Last Clean Date: 2016/01/18. Rounds since last cleaning: 2,172

Did extensive DA trigger practice today, something i've been sorely needing to do more of. Some targets:

http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/20170424_1.jpg.small.jpg
200 rounds of DA triggering. Still nosing over at the end of trigger press.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg23/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/20170424_2.jpg.small.jpg
15 rounds of DA only. Starting to wonder if there isn't something wrong with my grip. It's RIGHT at the end of the press I can feel it push over at the last second.

[JSGlock34]

I just noticed that Beretta has introduced a redesigned .22 conversion kit for the 92 series (http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-15-round-mag-/) (to include 15 round magazines (http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-15-round-22lr-magazine-for-conversion-practice-kit/) and a threaded barrel (http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-threaded-barrel-for-conversion-kit-threaded-barrel/)). Curious to hear more about the new kits and how they improve on the older design.

http://www.berettausa.com/assets/0/15/DimLarge/519-kit.jpg
http://www.berettausa.com/assets/0/15/DimLarge/519_100_Threaded-Barrel_01.jpg

[MSparks909]

Sorry if this might have been covered earlier in the thread, but do the M9/M9A1 .22s use the same hammer springs/struts and hammer as the full size Berettas? Or is it a different design. I'd like to get one but only if I can swap in lighter hammer springs.

[e_stern]

Hey Everyone,

My name is Erik Stern and I am the Associate Pro Shop Product Manager at BUSA. The new conversion kit has been mostly my baby for the last year and I am glad that it is finally coming to market.

As far as improvements go, the kit features the following over the older Italian kits:
Front and rear Dovetails with Vertec sight cuts
A threaded barrel available as an accessory
Ability to function with D hammer springs (WITH QUALITY AMMUNITION) as long as you are using a standard hammer to have enough mass.
15 round magazines versus 10 rounds with the old kit (10 rd mags are available for ban states).
Mags can be loaded without the use of an external loader (unlike the Italian kit)
90% parts compatibility with the M9_22, meaning that this simplifies our parts and service inventory and makes it easier to support you guys if something is needed.
Validated compatibility with the 92A1/96A1/90-Two pistols. The old BITA Kit usually worked with them, but this kit has been developed from the ground up and validated for compatibility with those pistols.

Let me know if you guys have any questions about them!

[e_stern]

Sorry if this might have been covered earlier in the thread, but do the M9/M9A1 .22s use the same hammer springs/struts and hammer as the full size Berettas? Or is it a different design. I'd like to get one but only if I can swap in lighter hammer springs.


You can use a D spring in those, but be aware that you will have more light strikes and you must use quality ammunition for the most reliability.

[CoGT3]

Hey Everyone,

My name is Erik Stern and I am the Associate Pro Shop Product Manager at BUSA. The new conversion kit has been mostly my baby for the last year and I am glad that it is finally coming to market.

As far as improvements go, the kit features the following over the older Italian kits:
Front and rear Dovetails with Vertec sight cuts
A threaded barrel available as an accessory
Ability to function with D hammer springs (WITH QUALITY AMMUNITION) as long as you are using a standard hammer to have enough mass.
15 round magazines versus 10 rounds with the old kit (10 rd mags are available for ban states).
Mags can be loaded without the use of an external loader (unlike the Italian kit)
90% parts compatibility with the M9_22, meaning that this simplifies our parts and service inventory and makes it easier to support you guys if something is needed.
Validated compatibility with the 92A1/96A1/90-Two pistols. The old BITA Kit usually worked with them, but this kit has been developed from the ground up and validated for compatibility with those pistols.

Let me know if you guys have any questions about them!

Looks like a nice package with the dove tailed sights and threaded barrel option.

Couple of quick questions:

Is this something Beretta Italy is making or has this been subbed out like the M9-22?

Guessing slide is aluminum for the low power 22LR? If so, does any special care need to be taken installing sights?

Finally, any thoughts about offering the kit with the threaded barrel only? I would think for many people like myself, this would be used as a suppressor host so no real need for the standard barrel, just threaded. By the time you add up the cost of the kit as offered and the extra threaded barrel you are in the price range of the Ruger Mark IV and Buckmarks.

[e_stern]

Looks like a nice package with the dove tailed sights and threaded barrel option.

I think it's a solid upgrade over the old one.

Couple of quick questions:

Is this something Beretta Italy is making or has this been subbed out like the M9-22?

Umarex is working with us on this one.

Guessing slide is aluminum for the low power 22LR? If so, does any special care need to be taken installing sights?

Yes it is. Yes, be careful not to overdo it as it is possible to push through the dovetail. That being said, if you do it's a simple matter to shim and stake them in place, but would not be aesthetically pleasing.

Finally, any thoughts about offering the kit with the threaded barrel only? I would think for many people like myself, this would be used as a suppressor host so no real need for the standard barrel, just threaded. By the time you add up the cost of the kit as offered and the extra threaded barrel you are in the price range of the Ruger Mark IV and Buckmarks.



It had been discussed, but as this kit was primarily intended to be offered to states where the M9_22 pistol cannot be sold, that was ruled out for initial launch as most of those states also do not allow for the use of silencers. That being said, based upon demand and feedback, I'm not opposed to it. Naturally the price would be increased if we were to do that, so bear that in mind. Also, this kit is primarily intense for cheap/easy training with a duty style pistol, not to supplement a dedicated rimfire bullseye gun.


My replies in bold.

[rbpwrd240]

I was lead here from the Beretta forum as we have had quite a lengthy conversation about this kit over there. Many of your comments have been added over there to help answer a few questions. However I still have one more question.

1. Is the finish on this gun a better match then the old Beretta Italy kit. The old one had a dull grey finish that was noticeable next to the brunton finish.

Also just as an add in here I would definitely be one of the people interested in a threaded only kit. Id pay a bit more but would be interested in the savings of not having to pay for two barrels when I only need the one.

Also judging by your statement earlier you mention this kit will work with D springs but only with the full weighted hammer. I find this odd as over on the Beretta forum with the old kit it seems the Elite II skeleton hammer would reliably fire ammo at lower spring weights. The thought process was that the lighter hammer could create more velocity through lighter mass and faster speeds. Did Beretta or Umarex find out differently during testing or was the Elite II hammer never really considered for this kit as its not on most 92 and 96's...

I appreciate your input as I just shelled out about 400 bucks for an old style kit less then one month ago and now I am about to do the same again.

[rbpwrd240]

Bueller, Bueller, Bueller....

Also another good thought is does this have a last round lock back, I am sure it does but confirmation is good to have.

Also will it function with standard velocity ammo or does it ned high velocity ammo specifically.

[e_stern]

I was lead here from the Beretta forum as we have had quite a lengthy conversation about this kit over there. Many of your comments have been added over there to help answer a few questions. However I still have one more question.

1. Is the finish on this gun a better match then the old Beretta Italy kit. The old one had a dull grey finish that was noticeable next to the brunton Bruniton finish.

Yes, it is a far closer match.

Also just as an add in here I would definitely be one of the people interested in a threaded only kit. Id pay a bit more but would be interested in the savings of not having to pay for two barrels when I only need the one.

I am taking all feedback into consideration, but for now and the immediate future a threaded kit is not something we are offering. Further out, depending on reception of the standard kit? I will keep it in mind.

Also judging by your statement earlier you mention this kit will work with D springs but only with the full weighted hammer. I find this odd as over on the Beretta forum with the old kit it seems the Elite II skeleton hammer would reliably fire ammo at lower spring weights. The thought process was that the lighter hammer could create more velocity through lighter mass and faster speeds. Did Beretta or Umarex find out differently during testing or was the Elite II hammer never really considered for this kit as its not on most 92 and 96's...

Mass is required for reliable ignition. EII hammers, even with the speed advantage from a full size spring, do not have nearly the force on the cartridge that the full weight hammer does due to the necessity of pushing both the firing pin and firing pin striker. So long story short, if you want a D spring and more reliable ignition, use the standard hammer. Note that this is relative as it is still a rimfire cartridge and ammunition quality varies widely.

I appreciate your input as I just shelled out about 400 bucks for an old style kit less then one month ago and now I am about to do the same again.

I think it is well worth it and that you will like it.


My replies in bold.

[e_stern]

Bueller, Bueller, Bueller....

I have been at the NRA show and unable to take the time to log in, apologies.

Also another good thought is does this have a last round lock back, I am sure it does but confirmation is good to have.

Yes, it does.

Also will it function with standard velocity ammo or does it ned high velocity ammo specifically.

In my testing it functions with both. I've found that the best ammunition thus far for reliability is either Eley (not surprising) or CCI Standard, but nearly everything functioned very well. It's as reliable as an M9_22, which is already known to be pretty top notch ;)

Replies in bold.

[Sal Picante]

Saving pennies... because...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/731798/PF/boner.png

[Sal Picante]

I find this odd as over on the Beretta forum with the old kit it seems the Elite II skeleton hammer would reliably fire ammo at lower spring weights. The thought process was that the lighter hammer could create more velocity through lighter mass and faster speeds. Did Beretta or Umarex find out differently during testing or was the Elite II hammer never really considered for this kit as its not on most 92 and 96's...

Personally, I've had mixed results... One kit works 99% of the time and the other one is like Sex Panther: 60% of the time, it works every time.

[e_stern]

Personally, I've had mixed results... One kit works 99% of the time and the other one is like Sex Panther: 60% of the time, it works every time.

Yea.... well you run it with teh EII hammer, but I don't really bother.

[rbpwrd240]

Send me a kit and Ill run it wit teh EII hammer and post a review wherever you would like!!!!!

[e_stern]

It has been brought to my attention that some people were having trouble with the EII hammer/D spring combo and ignition.

I want to reiterate and reiterate clearly, for the utmost reliability with a D spring, you MUST use the full weight hammer and QUALITY ammunition.

[hufnagel]

Shot 550 rounds through it yesterday (now 3507 total rounds,) and the safety/decocker lever broke at some point during my shoot.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/SAM_0453.JPG.small.jpg
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/pictures/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/SAM_0453.JPG
link is to the full sized BIG image.

I started noticing it being really hard to decock from the right side (lefty grip), and some times wouldn't go into safe (would decock only.) finally noticed the levers weren't in sync also; right side could swing pretty far before the left side would move.

Just put a call into Beretta customer service.

[hufnagel]

Slide on its way back to MD now.

[hufnagel]

Slide returned to me today.
intact safety lever is on it.
gave it a couple drops of lube, reassembled everything, racked the slide a dozen times, flicked the safety on and off at least that many, feels good.
need to make time this week to shoot it again.

Thanks Beretta!

[e_stern]

Slide returned to me today.
intact safety lever is on it.
gave it a couple drops of lube, reassembled everything, racked the slide a dozen times, flicked the safety on and off at least that many, feels good.
need to make time this week to shoot it again.

Thanks Beretta!

Glad to hear all is well.

Keep me posted on how it runs.

[hufnagel]

just got a funny thing in the mail.
letter from beretta saying they received my firearm for service and will repair and return it as quickly as possible. <many more words follow.>

guess the repair people are faster than the paper dealers. :D

[hufnagel]

Range report.
Took the kid shooting today, because jewish holiday == days off from school.
105 rounds down range, DA only (decocking after each shot), because I need DA practice. No issues to report and everything felt like it should, possibly a little tighter than before, which felt like a good thing.
Kid put another 85 down range with it, and promptly declared that it is now HIS gun. :D
I told him maybe and only after he can actually pull the trigger in DA mode, as his hands currently are too small for that.

[Bigghoss]

I need to get one of these.

[MSparks909]

Can the M9/M9A1-22 safety be converted to G mode? Or is that not possible? Strongly eyeing one of these. Have a boatload of .22 that I need to burn through...

[hufnagel]

MSparks909 I'm going to say "no" as the slide is totally different.

so given beretta has a sale going on I decided to dig into if I can replace the trigger with a steel one, because why not?
the answer is "yes" and "no."
yes: it sure appears the trigger is the same.
no: they put everything in a subframe assembly that's held into the plastic frame with 2 roll pins. unfortunately the studs for the grip screws go in frame recesses, and it appears you need some kind of Fancy Tool to spread the plastic frame apart enough to let them pass. bummer.

[hufnagel]

Another day, another 525 rounds through this gun :D
I'm sort of "restricted" to .22lr at the moment, as I've had severe tennis elbow for the past 3 months; it's getting better but i'm going to see an ortho in a couple days and look into a cortisone shot to push me over the recovery "hump" with any luck. Anyways, enough about me and the gimpy wing. :D

I noticed the last couple outings, that the pistol seemed to be printing right.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190424/0424191156.jpg.small.jpg

To make a long story short, I got home that day and went to drift the sight left, when I discovered minimal thumb pressure would move it. That's not good. pushed the front sight out, put a little red loctite on things, pushed it back into place and where it looked like it was centered, and hoped for the best.

Today's outing was a lot better.
Ammo was Federal Champion 36gr CPHP FED745 lot 1IM269.
Distance was 10 Meters.
Pistol had 951 rounds through it since last cleaning (2018/08/03) at start of the day, now 2001 rounds.
Total rounds is 6159.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191020.jpg.small.jpg
50 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191025.jpg.small.jpg
100 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191031.jpg.small.jpg
150 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191038.jpg.small.jpg
200 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191044.jpg.small.jpg
250 rounds (added a reactive target behind the cardboard)

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191050.jpg.small.jpg
300 rounds

Skipped taking a couple pictures. :D

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191108.jpg.small.jpg
450 rounds (switched reactive target as the first one broke)

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191113.jpg.small.jpg
500 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191116.jpg.small.jpg
525 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191123.jpg.small.jpg
Aftermath of the reactive targets. Left one has about 300 rounds total through it, and it failed. Right one has about 175 rounds so far, and it holding up MUCH better!
I might do a quick opinion piece on both of these at some point.

[BaiHu]

Another day, another 525 rounds through this gun :D
I'm sort of "restricted" to .22lr at the moment, as I've had severe tennis elbow for the past 3 months; it's getting better but i'm going to see an ortho in a couple days and look into a cortisone shot to push me over the recovery "hump" with any luck. Anyways, enough about me and the gimpy wing. :D

I noticed the last couple outings, that the pistol seemed to be printing right.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190424/0424191156.jpg.small.jpg

To make a long story short, I got home that day and went to drift the sight left, when I discovered minimal thumb pressure would move it. That's not good. pushed the front sight out, put a little red loctite on things, pushed it back into place and where it looked like it was centered, and hoped for the best.

Today's outing was a lot better.
Ammo was Federal Champion 36gr CPHP FED745 lot 1IM269.
Distance was 10 Meters.
Pistol had 951 rounds through it since last cleaning (2018/08/03) at start of the day, now 2001 rounds.
Total rounds is 6159.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191020.jpg.small.jpg
50 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191025.jpg.small.jpg
100 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191031.jpg.small.jpg
150 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191038.jpg.small.jpg
200 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191044.jpg.small.jpg
250 rounds (added a reactive target behind the cardboard)

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191050.jpg.small.jpg
300 rounds

Skipped taking a couple pictures. :D

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191108.jpg.small.jpg
450 rounds (switched reactive target as the first one broke)

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191113.jpg.small.jpg
500 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191116.jpg.small.jpg
525 rounds

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Range%2520Days/20190509/0509191123.jpg.small.jpg
Aftermath of the reactive targets. Left one has about 300 rounds total through it, and it failed. Right one has about 175 rounds so far, and it holding up MUCH better!
I might do a quick opinion piece on both of these at some point.You're shooting left now [emoji12]

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[hufnagel]

You're shooting left now [emoji12]

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Only on the first target. I think I was "compensating", or as some old fart once told me it's called Kentucky Windage, due to the fact it was shooting right. My overall hole got pretty close to center pretty quickly.

Going to try and see if I can wear this pistol out before the end of the year, as an excuse to go buy the suppressor ready kit version, with the fake can. :D

http://www.beretta.com/assets/12/15/DimGalleryLarge/92FSR_22SuppressorReadyKit_zoom003.jpg

[Bigghoss]

I picked one up a while back. I lost count on the number of rounds though it but it's a lot. Not a single hickup that wasn't from dud ammo.

[hufnagel]

Agreed. Other than the early on hiccup with the safety lever doing an unscheduled disassembly (which Beretta took care of), the only issues I've had are ammo related. And I guess the front plastic sight getting loose.
It's now #3 on my all time list of most shot guns, and will rather quickly overtake my SR22 (and P30L) at the current rate. Once my arm is back up to snuff I expect its usage to drop off, as I get back into the P30L, but for now I'm having a blast wrecking cardboard with it. :D

HK P30L 7849
RUGER SR22 6672
BERETTA M9-22 6158
HK P30 5377
HK P30 4211

[OlongJohnson]

Another day, another 525 rounds through this gun :D
I'm sort of "restricted" to .22lr at the moment, as I've had severe tennis elbow for the past 3 months; it's getting better but i'm going to see an ortho in a couple days and look into a cortisone shot to push me over the recovery "hump" with any luck. Anyways, enough about me and the gimpy wing. :D

Saved this link from another thread somewhere on the site:

https://www.absolutept.com/shooters-elbow/

[CraigS]

Re; tennis elbow. 12 yrs or so ago I got it bad in my right arm. Cortisone shot and elbow brace fixed it for 18 months and then back. Another cortisone shot and more brace wearing fixed it pretty much permanently. 3 yrs ago it started in the left arm. Went to the same doc, told him what was happening, and expected another shot. He said, ah, we are getting away from them now. He gave me exercises to do. I thought yeah right, sure, they will work-not. 6 weeks of wearing the brace and doing the exercises, and it was gone. Un...beliveable. It is still gone. Every once in a while I will get just a hint of it coming back, so I exercise for a couple weeks and it is gone. The exercises are easy to do. I do them while sitting at the PC. Slows my typing some, but usually I just stop exercises for a few minutes, type, and then start back again and add a few more reps to the total. Best wishes to you solving yours.

[hufnagel]

Today's shenanigans:
Test out some new ammo flavors I bought. (Thanks, SG Ammo! :D)

Firearm: Beretta M9-22
Distance: 10 meters
10 rounds per magazine

Winchester X22LR
.22LR 40gr
Lot #K1919 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=K1919)
50 rounds
Failure to lock back on empty,1st magazine
Failure to strip round 3, 2nd magazine
Failure to strip round 4, 3rd magazine
Failure to strip round 5, Failure to lock back on empty, 5th magazine

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/20190607/0607191102a.jpg.small.jpg


Target number two.
American Eagle Suppressor AE22SUP1
.22LR 45gr
No lot # available
50 rounds
No failures of any kind.

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CCI Quiet-22 CCI0960
.22LR 40gr
No lot # available
10 rounds
Failure to eject all rounds. Picture five
Not shooting the rest of the box.
On several shots, I could feel the slide returning home, so there was at least some energy to attempt to cycle, but clearly not enough to do anything useful. Case was never ejecting. Definitely not appropriate for this gun.

http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/Beretta_M9_22LR/20190607/0607191111.jpg.small.jpg

CCI Clean-22 CCI934CC
.22LR 40gr
Lot #D27A102 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=D27A102)
Very nice shooting.
No failures.

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Winchester M-22 S22LRTSU8
.22LR 45gr
Lot #K7620 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=K7620)
Failure to eject last round, 2nd magazine.
Ammo was a bit spitty. I was getting hit with stuff on my left arm specifically.

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CCI Stinger-22 CCI0050
.22LR 32gr
Lot #L27Z203 (https://pistol-forum.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=L27Z203)
Holy *!#$ the fireball this thing puts out!
First 10 picture shows I got spooked on a couple of shots just from the craziness of this round.
The recoil impulse is impressive.
Failure to ignite, round 5, 5th magazine.
Ignited on second attempt, removal and rechambered.

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[MichaelD]

Today's shenanigans...

Awesome report!

I've never tried Stingers in anything before... sounds fun! I think CCI is about to owe you credit for a sale.

[hufnagel]

I gotta say I liked the results with the CCI Clean and AE Suppressor stuff. Both were easier on the ears than your standard supersonic .22's, and they shot REALLY well out of the M9-22, as the targets show.

Oh, and the gun still shoots low as shit, even with the shorter of the two front sights.

[hufnagel]

More ammo flavor testing, and some bad news that I'll save to the end.
All ammo bought from SG Ammo.

Firearm: Beretta M9-22
Distance: 10 meters
10 rounds per magazine

CCI AR Tactical Ammo Copper Plated Round Nose
CCI0956
.22LR 40gr
Lot #: NLN
Rounds: 40
Mag 1 Round 3: Failure to Load (weak feeling prior round)
Mag 2 Round 10: Failure to Lock Back
Mag 4 Round 10: Failure to Lock Back
Pretty soft feeling ammo, which would explain the noted failures as not enough energy.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191134_Burst01.jpg.small.jpg

Fiocchi 22LR High Velocity CPRN
22FHVCRN
.22LR 40gr
Lot #: NLN
Rounds: 45
Mag 1 Round 4: Failure to Ignite. Re-chambering and striking in a new spot had it work.
Recoil had some spice, but still pretty tame.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191209.jpg.small.jpg

Federal Game Shok Copper Plated Solid High Velocity Ammo
FED710
.22LR 40gr
Lot #: NLN
Rounds: 30
Mag 1 Round 10: Failure to Lock Back
Mag 2 Round 3: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 6: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 8: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 10: Failure to Lock Back
Mag 3 Round 6: Failure to Extract
Mag 3 Round 7: Failure to Load
Mag 3 Round 9: Failure to Load
Mag 3 Round 10: Failure to Lock Back
I aborted further testing after the 3rd mag, as it's obvious this isn't strong enough to cycle the M9-22 correctly.
Recoil was very mild.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191220.jpg.small.jpg

CCI Clean-22 Target Ammo Red Polycoat Round Nose High Velocity
CCI944CC
.22LR 40gr
Lot #: D04A214
Rounds: 50
Mag 2 ROund 2: Failure to Load
This one seemed to get hung up on the feed ramp. As I was putting the gun downn to take a picture though, the slide went home and chambered the round.
Mag 5 ROund 10: Failure to Lock Back
Pretty light recoil; very easy to get back on target between shots.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191232.jpg.small.jpg

Remington Viper Ammo Truncated Cone 1410 FPS Hyper Velocity
REM1900
.22LR 36gr
Lot #: NLN
Rounds: 30
Mag 1 Round 4: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 2: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 3: Failure to Load
Mag 2 Round 4: Failure to Load
Stout recoil. Stronger than the Fiocchi tested today, but not nearly as violent as that CCI Stinger stuff from last time. (I think the Stinger stuff gave me PTSD. Ok, not really, but it's still a memorable round!)
Very dirty ammo to handle. Also don't like the box; major pain to get individual rounds out.
As the pictures below show, the step shaped bullet can get caught on the feed ramp pretty easily. This was the cause of every FTL I experienced.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191234.jpg.small.jpg
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191234a.jpg.small.jpg
The first 10 rounds thous were pretty promising for accuracy.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191235.jpg.small.jpg
Things fell apart a bit though for the next pair of mags,
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/cache/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191240.jpg.small.jpg

Now, for the bad news of the day.
The M9-22 broke the safety lever axle again. Looks like i'm putting another call into Beretta.
Last time it broke after about 3500 rounds.
This time it went about 3100 rounds before breaking the same part.

eta: just left a message with Beretta CS for a call back.

[OlongJohnson]

On the polycoat CCI, it looks like you may have had some keyholes. I had 7 rounds out of 20 of that stuff keyhole at 7 yards from my P250. Thing shoots great with other ammo.

[hufnagel]

On the polycoat CCI, it looks like you may have had some keyholes. I had 7 rounds out of 20 of that stuff keyhole at 7 yards from my P250. Thing shoots great with other ammo.

I'm not so sure about that. Here's the bigger higher-quality image. Take a look and see if you still think this keyholing in the same spots.
http://manybrightdots.com/twg/pictures/sota/Firearms/AmmoTests/20190702/0702191232.jpg

[OlongJohnson]

"Paint"ed the ones I'm suspicious of. Seem to be oblong, in some cases even with a square end. They're well outside the group, which also goes with key holing.

39673

[hufnagel]

Ok. I can see how there could be suspicion on those 4. When I shoot more of it (eventually in my other .22 guns as well) I'll make a note to try a little bit more of it in the M9-22 and see if I can get some distinct keyholing shots.

eta: now that I look at my pictures more, you'll need to discount the bottom flyer that's off the target; that came from the FED 710 shoot before the CCI-Clean. I'll also make a note to make sure to pastie the cardboard between ammo changes; I replace the orange target obviously.

[OlongJohnson]

I shoot the PF B8s on printer paper. Got the classic perfect sideways bullet outline on a few of them.

[hufnagel]

slide will be on its way back to Beretta tomorrow.
also, looks like Rafe no longer works there. his last log in was mid-July 2017, and other information leads me to believe he's no longer there. bummer.

[OlongJohnson]

On the polycoat CCI, it looks like you may have had some keyholes. I had 7 rounds out of 20 of that stuff keyhole at 7 yards from my P250. Thing shoots great with other ammo.

FWIW, I put 60 rounds of this stuff through a 6.5" barrel Buck Mark last night, and it was up to the standards of accuracy of my shooting with no keyholes or any other issues at 7 yards. I did have a couple failures to pick up the second round in an old, narrow-base magazine that I had already marked (a piece of blue tape on the bottom) as suspect. Moved the load to another mag and had no further issues. Will start by cleaning it and then change the spring.

It's not what we really do a lot of around here, but it was smile-inducing to just stand there in slow fire and eat little holes in the center of a target with a well-balanced gun and a nice SA trigger like a some kind of Fudd. Especially when the mods done to Hogue G10 grips in a dripping-sweat hot garage last weekend came out perfect.

[hufnagel]

Slide is back in my hand, with a new safety lever installed. Got it soaking in Hoppes #9 to give it a good cleaning, will do the same to the rest of the firearms bits, then put 'er together for some more pew pew soon.

I missed it sufficiently that, i'm seriously considering getting a second, specifically the tactical variant with fake suppressor. :D

[Bigghoss]

It would have been nice if the FDE had been available when I ordered mine. Living in the desert has made me dislike the color black.

[e_stern]

slide will be on its way back to Beretta tomorrow.
also, looks like Rafe no longer works there. his last log in was mid-July 2017, and other information leads me to believe he's no longer there. bummer.

Rafe is no longer with Beretta.

Are you dropping the slide w/the safety engaged?

[hufnagel]

Rafe is no longer with Beretta.

Are you dropping the slide w/the safety engaged?

No joking, I sat here and thought for 5 minutes about that, trying to remember that minute level of detail of my range sessions.

I'm going to say "yes" when doing DA/SA practice, and "no" when I'm just doing accuracy practice.

I'm anticipating some interesting insight into why it's breaking, and on what appears to be a regular schedule. Granted, 2 data points is hardly a trend, but it is curious.

[hufnagel]

Shot it yesterday, 179 rounds (don't ask... kid was with me and he was shooting his rifle from the same box of ammo.)
Going to have to call Beretta next week:
right side safety almost fell off when the roll pin walked out. Luckily it didn't back out totally and get lost this time, and I could push it back in. I'll try and set it better.
slide stop kept engaging in the middle of a magazine, sometimes 2-3 times. happened on the majority of mag loads. not sure if that's something I did though, as I took the slide stop off to give everything a thorough cleaning; there was a ton of crud behind it. it feels like it's right though, in that it has a good amount of downward tension. I'm a lefty so I wasn't pushing on the slide stop accidentally; I checked for that.

[hufnagel]

Shot 353 rounds yesterday. Had a tiny epiphany on my recoil control, and it made my POI line up better and my groups got smaller too. One FTFire that ignited on second strike; i'm blaming the ammo on that (FED745 bulk pack). No other issues or failures, until I went to put it away. #$)#$# )(#)$@@# right side safety came off! Managed to find it and the roll pin during cleanup. I can see the back side of the hole isn't round any more. I'll try to get a call into Beretta today and see if they'll send me a replacement and a new roll pin.

[hufnagel]

460 rounds today.
Right side pin still likes to walk out of the hole; not enough friction holding it in I guess. Might try pushing it most of the way out and applying some loctite.
Nothing else went wrong though.
Spent the session doing some target hopping drills and some recoil desensitization practice.

[Outlier]

Thank you for continuing to give updates. I am interested in picking up one of these myself.

[hufnagel]

Still a fan of it. Still going to continue to shoot the shit out of it. Still distinctly considering a second one with fake suppressor, just because. Will admit some of the "shine" has rubbed off it though.

[Bigghoss]

I saw one in FDE a few months ago and I was like "Where the heck was that when I ordered mine?!?" Anyone who's ever shot on an outdoor range in the summer with no shade knows what I'm talking about.

[Welder]

Still a fan of it. Still going to continue to shoot the shit out of it. Still distinctly considering a second one with fake suppressor, just because. Will admit some of the "shine" has rubbed off it though.

Any updates on this? I haven't had a .22 pistol for awhile and am considering this, among others.

[hufnagel]

still shooting it. still love shooting it.
need to send the slide back in again, as the right side safety lever is going to fall off, as the retaining pin is loose. hole is probably wallowed out from all the times it's been put in and took out.
still standing by my statement that I'd buy another.

[spence]

This is on my list of "I need it" now. The LGS/range I shoot USPSA at had one, but I was running late that day. They're obviously closed up before the match is over, so I missed out on it. Made my grumpy.

[Suvorov]

I purchased a new .22LR conversion kit last month due in part to the positive responses here. I have a Sig Mosquito that has been serving as the "Full Sized Pistol Analog" the last 10 years, but its off size and reliability issues have prevented it from being a good much less great gun. With 9mm approaching $1 a round and the prospect of Biden and Harris doing to the US what she has done to the state of Kalifornia the ability to shoot .22LR through a full size handgun I consider well worth the money.

I have had a couple chances to fire the kit placed atop my Elite build sporting a Langdon Trigger, Elite II hammer, and 14 lb spring. In a little over 500 rounds of a mixed bag of ammunition ranging from CCI mini mags to Remington Golden Bullets to Federal Bulk pack, to Federal Auto I have had one failure to go into battery with a Remington Golden Bullet and one failure to fire with a Federal Bulk bullet.

I have to say that I have not shot anything in a long time that has put as big a grin on my face as this conversion has mounted to my Langdonized Beretta Frame! I really look forward to teaching my kids to shoot with this as it will be the perfect analog. I can now sell the Mosquito for the insane prices they are going for in Kalifornia.

They only issue I have noticed is that the front sight is beginning to show wear from the holster and the multiple presentations I have been doing. After reading e_stern I am happy that I can replace it with a metal front sight. It seems that ordinary Vertec front sights are not as easy to come by as I would expect. Does anyone have an extra lying around? I see that Midwest has these (https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/c58232)available but they do not say if this is the Vertec dovetail or Brigadier dovetail? Does anyone know?


Hey Everyone,

My name is Erik Stern and I am the Associate Pro Shop Product Manager at BUSA. The new conversion kit has been mostly my baby for the last year and I am glad that it is finally coming to market.

As far as improvements go, the kit features the following over the older Italian kits:
Front and rear Dovetails with Vertec sight cuts
A threaded barrel available as an accessory
Ability to function with D hammer springs (WITH QUALITY AMMUNITION) as long as you are using a standard hammer to have enough mass.
15 round magazines versus 10 rounds with the old kit (10 rd mags are available for ban states).
Mags can be loaded without the use of an external loader (unlike the Italian kit)
90% parts compatibility with the M9_22, meaning that this simplifies our parts and service inventory and makes it easier to support you guys if something is needed.
Validated compatibility with the 92A1/96A1/90-Two pistols. The old BITA Kit usually worked with them, but this kit has been developed from the ground up and validated for compatibility with those pistols.

Let me know if you guys have any questions about them!

Thanks for your efforts bring this out - it really is outstanding!

[Stony Lane]

I purchased a new .22LR conversion kit last month due in part to the positive responses here. I have a Sig Mosquito that has been serving as the "Full Sized Pistol Analog" the last 10 years, but its off size and reliability issues have prevented it from being a good much less great gun. With 9mm approaching $1 a round and the prospect of Biden and Harris doing to the US what she has done to the state of Kalifornia the ability to shoot .22LR through a full size handgun I consider well worth the money.

I have had a couple chances to fire the kit placed atop my Elite build sporting a Langdon Trigger, Elite II hammer, and 14 lb spring. In a little over 500 rounds of a mixed bag of ammunition ranging from CCI mini mags to Remington Golden Bullets to Federal Bulk pack, to Federal Auto I have had one failure to go into battery with a Remington Golden Bullet and one failure to fire with a Federal Bulk bullet.

I have to say that I have not shot anything in a long time that has put as big a grin on my face as this conversion has mounted to my Langdonized Beretta Frame! I really look forward to teaching my kids to shoot with this as it will be the perfect analog. I can now sell the Mosquito for the insane prices they are going for in Kalifornia.

They only issue I have noticed is that the front sight is beginning to show wear from the holster and the multiple presentations I have been doing. After reading e_stern I am happy that I can replace it with a metal front sight. It seems that ordinary Vertec front sights are not as easy to come by as I would expect. Does anyone have an extra lying around? I see that Midwest has these (https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/c58232)available but they do not say if this is the Vertec dovetail or Brigadier dovetail? Does anyone know?



Thanks for your efforts bring this out - it really is outstanding!


Here are some Vertec sight options:

https://dawsonprecision.com/sights/beretta-sights/

[spinmove_]

Where’s the best place to snag a conversion kit? I could totally use one.

[farscott]

Where’s the best place to snag a conversion kit? I could totally use one.

From here: https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-15-round-mag-/

Register for an account, if you do not have one, on the Beretta store. Beretta provides discounts to registered users as well as holiday discounts. If you are a member of the Beretta Forum, a further 10% discount can be "stacked". Beretta does an excellent job of supporting loyal customers.

[Suvorov]

Here are some Vertec sight options:

https://dawsonprecision.com/sights/beretta-sights/

Thanks - I’m just looking for the standard factory sight with the white dot.


Where’s the best place to snag a conversion kit? I could totally use one.

I got mine from Botach. Best non-discounted price I have found at $300. Had it within a week. They also have the best price on magazines I have found. Oh - and the magazines are AMAZING quality!!! Same size as standard Beretta mags.

https://botach.com/beretta-92-f-series-22lr-conversion-kits-w-10rd-magazine/

[JSGlock34]

40% off at Beretta USA for Labor Day (Code: LABOR40) means a kit is $180 shipped...

https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772
(https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772)

ETA: The kits with 10 round magazines are $40 cheaper...which is more than the price of a magazine...so I'd get the 10 round kit...

[JSGlock34]

Where’s the best place to snag a conversion kit? I could totally use one.


40% off at Beretta USA for Labor Day (Code: LABOR40) means a kit is $180 shipped...

https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772
(https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772)

ETA: The kits with 10 round magazines are $40 cheaper...which is more than the price of a magazine...so I'd get the 10 round kit...

[CoGT3]

[emoji115]

Just grabbed one with 6 extra 15rd mags. Great deal. Now if they had only had the threaded barrel in stock also..... Its ok, just filled Form 4 on Dead Air Mask.

Wonder if LTT can mill the conversion kit?


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[Outlier]

I've been waffling back and forth over going with either the conversion kit or a complete pistol. Suvorov comments about the conversion kit mags and the Beretta Labor Day sale helped spur that decision. Looking forward to when they arrive.

[Bigghoss]

I'm in love with my M9-22 pistol but a conversion has the advantage of using mags that will fit your 9mm mag carriers so you can also practice reloads. If I could do it over again I would go with a conversion and keep and eye out for a frame for it to live on or a good deal on a whole gun and sell the upper.

[farscott]

Grabbed a 15-round kit on the 40% Labor Day sale. Tax made the total a bit over $216. I will wait until Black Friday to stock up on magazines.

[Suvorov]

Grabbed a 15-round kit on the 40% Labor Day sale. Tax made the total a bit over $216. I will wait until Black Friday to stock up on magazines.

That’s a hell of a price!

[farscott]

That’s a hell of a price!

With Beretta, it saves to shop holidays. Unless it is an actual firearm, the accessories are usually much cheaper from Beretta during holiday sales than from anyone else. Hard to believe but true. And Beretta ships on the date shown on the web site for that item when you order. It is a well-run organization.

My plan for Black Friday is enough 15-round magazines, pushing me above the $300 floor for the 40% off sale, as I will buy the suppressor-height sights and the threaded barrel. The host will be one of my Elite LTT frames.

[Yung]

I'll be over here in the corner with yet another reason to regret sticking to Compacts, don't mind me...

[tlong17]

I'll be over here in the corner with yet another reason to regret sticking to Compacts, don't mind me...

Does the kit not work with a compact?

[Yung]

Does the kit not work with a compact?

According to the product description on Beretta's site, it says it'll work with most any full size, so I presume that rules me out.

[tlong17]

According to the product description on Beretta's site, it says it'll work with most any full size, so I presume that rules me out.

You’re making me regret my decision too now then. Geez.

[Yung]

You’re making me regret my decision too now then. Geez.

Oh no, I'm sorry. I hope I'm wrong and it works for you, then that way I'll have to pay full price for my hesitance without the benefit of the Labor Day weekend discount.
If it turns out to not work, then at least you should have no issue getting your money's worth back from one of the other Beretta buddies here.

[tlong17]

Oh no, I'm sorry. I hope I'm wrong and it works for you, then that way I'll have to pay full price for my hesitance without the benefit of the Labor Day weekend discount.
If it turns out to not work, then at least you should have no issue getting your money's worth back from one of the other Beretta buddies here.

Haha only kidding...kinda ;) I am happy with my decision for every other reason. Especially since now I need to get a full size or centurion if it doesn’t work out.

[Suvorov]

I'll be over here in the corner with yet another reason to regret sticking to Compacts, don't mind me...

You need to have a growth mindset - this is an opportunity to buy a full sized Beretta!

[Yung]

You need to have a growth mindset - this is an opportunity to buy a full sized Beretta!

Well, I used to own two full-sized LTTs and I wanted to consolidate. It's really not worth going back now.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

40% off at Beretta USA for Labor Day (Code: LABOR40) means a kit is $180 shipped...

https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772
(https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-conversion-kit-92-series-10-round-mag-/?OrderItemId=4557772)

ETA: The kits with 10 round magazines are $40 cheaper...which is more than the price of a magazine...so I'd get the 10 round kit...

Great deal or not, this forum has cost me a staggering amount of money this weekend. I may need to take a PF hiatus ;)

[claymore504]

I finally got a chance to fire my Beretta 92 22 conversion kit this past weekend. Took the LTT Elite, CZ P09 UG/SR and the 22 conv kit to the range for teaching some new shooters. It was an husband and wife in thier late 60s I was teaching. Husband had an M&P40. I suggested the wife did not fire it and give the CZ P09 a try. The 9mm CZ P09 was a little much for her to start with since she had never fired a gun before. I broke out the Beretta 22 kit and she loved it. It ran perfect overall. Only issues were ammon related where a round took a second trigger pull to fire. Really happr with this 22 kit!

[CoGT3]

Got to play with my practice kit this weekend. Fits well on my LTT FS frame. Will probably move the Spartan front/Les Pep rear sights over when the slide goes in for RDO milling.

Anybody know if you remove the safety plunger if the safety lever will act like a G decocker?


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[TicTacticalTimmy]

Got my 22lr conversion in and fired it for the first time today along with a new to me m9a3, first time shooting any 92 series.

Unfortunately I had failires to ignite about 15% of the time. This was with both Federal and Aguila, both hv and sd. Other than that I had no failures. Not a single failure to feed, extract, or even to lock the slide back on empty. Every round went off on the second pull, and the failures were in both SA and DA.

The M9a3 comes with a D spring, do you need a full power hammer spring to use this kit? From the posts above it looks like people are using these with LTTs with no issue, which I believe have an even lighter hammer spring.

[Stony Lane]

I believe Beretta recommends the regular solid (heavier) hammer if you use a lighter hammer spring (with the conversion kit). If you have problems, you might give that a try.

[Suvorov]

Got my 22lr conversion in and fired it for the first time today along with a new to me m9a3, first time shooting any 92 series.

Unfortunately I had failires to ignite about 15% of the time. This was with both Federal and Aguila, both hv and sd. Other than that I had no failures. Not a single failure to feed, extract, or even to lock the slide back on empty. Every round went off on the second pull, and the failures were in both SA and DA.

The M9a3 comes with a D spring, do you need a full power hammer spring to use this kit? From the posts above it looks like people are using these with LTTs with no issue, which I believe have an even lighter hammer spring.

My first time out with my kit - I was using a LT trigger with elite 2 hammer and a 14 lb spring. I had 1 failure to ignite in 200 rnds. I have since married my conversion kit to a 92 frame with “D” spring and standard hammer and have yet to have a failure to ignite. I’ve been using up my stash of Remington golden bullets. Assuming you haven’t swapped out hammers my guess is maybe it’s the ammo or maybe something is dragging in the firing pin.

[Fordtough25]

I don't have a kit sadly but i do have one of the M9A1 umarex Beretta marked pistols and it shoots real nice, my wife and kids like shooting with it mostly but I plink with it off and on.

[Jeff22]

I bought one of the Beretta practice kits when they first came out back in the spring of 2000.

I have been quite happy with it.

About three weeks ago I was in a local gun shop checking out their ammo inventory (they didn’t have ANYTHING) and I noticed they had an M9-22 in the display case.

I bought it. I have about 600 rounds through it so far. I’m impressed. It runs fine on standard velocity ammo with lead bullets and is acceptably accurate out to 50 feet.

[farscott]

The Beretta "Black Friday" sale has started. Best time to stock up on magazines, conversion kits, and spare parts.

[Bigghoss]

Sadly they're out of 15-round M9-22 mags. :(

[farscott]

Sadly they're out of 15-round M9-22 mags. :(

That must have just happened as they were in stock when I shopped. Or maybe not as I looked at the conversion kit magazines at https://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-15-round-22lr-magazine-for-conversion-practice-kit/

[hufnagel]

No pictures today, but too the M9-22 out for a quick spin after a fresh cleaning.
I can say that, it really likes Winchester X22LR, for the most part. Drilled out a quarter sized hole at 10', barely opened to a half-dollar at 20'. Only downside was out of 125 rounds I had 2 that needed removal and re-strikes, and one total dud. Kid reported some issues also from his Ruger SR-22 and the same ammo. If/when ammo calms down I *might* get some more of this, at least for the Beretta.

[TicTacticalTimmy]

Got my 22lr conversion in and fired it for the first time today along with a new to me m9a3, first time shooting any 92 series.

Unfortunately I had failures to ignite about 15% of the time. This was with both Federal and Aguila, both hv and sd. Other than that I had no failures. Not a single failure to feed, extract, or even to lock the slide back on empty. Every round went off on the second pull, and the failures were in both SA and DA.

The M9a3 comes with a D spring, do you need a full power hammer spring to use this kit? From the posts above it looks like people are using these with LTTs with no issue, which I believe have an even lighter hammer spring.

I have been using the 22lr conversion kit a fair bit since I wrote the above post. I first sent it in to Beretta because of the light strikes. They replaced the firing pin but after testing it again I was still getting at least as many light strikes as before. I noticed the firing pin protrusion from the breechface was very minimal compared to my other 22lrs. Therefore I detail stripped the upper, filed down the firing pin shelf which limits the firing pin protrusion until the protrusion was close to my 22/45, and reassembled. Testing further, it was better but still way too many light strikes with both my M9A3 (D spring) and LTT with trigger job (13# spring I think).

Last weekend I took it out again, this time with a full stock 20# 92 hammer spring. The result? 100% ignition! The heavy hammer spring sure takes out most of the "wow" factor of the LTT, but I still found it highly shootable and didn't seem to lose much on timed drills or dot torture, except WHO which was abysmal. I did get a number of failures to load a round which lead to a dryfire (and another dryfire when I ASSumed it was a light strike) when using Aquila SV, but no such failures with Aguila HV, so I think I just need to use HV ammo with this kit. Also the 10rd mag that came with the kit does not lock back the slide, leading to even more dry fires, though the two 15rd mags I bought worked fine.

In conclusion I would recommend the kit, but with the caveat that you may need to use a full power hammer spring. I'm hoping the heavier trigger pull will translate to better skillz when I switch back to a 13# spring for shooting 9mm. I'm also going to buy a range of hammer springs from Wolff to see how low I can go and keep it reliable.

[pi3]

No pictures today, but too the M9-22 out for a quick spin after a fresh cleaning.
I can say that, it really likes Winchester X22LR, for the most part. Drilled out a quarter sized hole at 10', barely opened to a half-dollar at 20'. Only downside was out of 125 rounds I had 2 that needed removal and re-strikes, and one total dud. Kid reported some issues also from his Ruger SR-22 and the same ammo. If/when ammo calms down I *might* get some more of this, at least for the Beretta.

Has anybody got one to run ok with a dovetail mount and small dot?