Sig P2022 as an EDC weapon...

[j.d.allen]

Thoughts?

Sorry about the misspell in the thread title, didn't catch it and don't know how to change it.

[Mitch]

Sounds fine to me?


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[JodyH]

Best current production Sig IMO.
A bit bulky compared to the competition but it's a solid pistol.
Holster selection is a bit limited.
Buy the flat magazine baseplates for your carry mags if you can find them, it trims down the grip profile some.
https://www.gregcotellc.com is the only place I've ever found the low profile baseplates.

[ubervic]

I just moved away from MP9FS and into Sig SP2022. I was moderately pleased with M&P but wanted a new challenge: mastering the DA/SA trigger. I'd read many great things about SP2022 for a while and figured that with its low price and good trigger I couldn't go wrong.

I do not carry every day, and so my comments may not speak well to your core question. However, I am enjoying the more aggressive manner in which I can manipulate the 10# trigger in DA mode during presentation, whereas the roughly 4# SA mode is a delight. Yes, I wish the reset was a bit shorter. I find the size of the 2022 to be not as chunky as many complain about it being, and I enjoy its slightly greater heft---it seems to help stabilize gun movement during press-out.

[j.d.allen]

I'm wondering about the hive's consensus on the reliability and accuracy of this weapon.

I want to carry AIWB but I just don't feel comfortable doing that with a striker fired pistol.

This one seems to be the best bang for the buck, but is it reliable and accurate enough to be a primary carry piece?

[JodyH]

Reliable and accurate, yes.
I trust my 2022 more than I do my P229R or my M11A1.

[HCM]

I'm wondering about the hive's consensus on the reliability and accuracy of this weapon.

I want to carry AIWB but I just don't feel comfortable doing that with a striker fired pistol.

This one seems to be the best bang for the buck, but is it reliable and accurate enough to be a primary carry piece?

Yes, they are very accurate and reliable. They are definitely a Best Buy/best value. When the sig pros were first introduced they were only 100 or $200 less expensive than a regular P series. If fact they cost more back then than they do now. Sig has been able to produce these inexpensively due to economies of scale and becoming very efficient at building them after producing several hundred thousand of them for European police contracts.

Bruce gray of Gray Guns is likely THE premier SIG Gunsmith in the world. His carry gun is an SP2022. That, to me speaks volumes about the SP 2022.

[Kyle Reese]

They're outstanding pistols, especially for the cash. Carry with confidence.


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[SamAdams]

Reliable and accurate, yes.
I trust my 2022 more than I do my P229R or my M11A1.

That's quite an endorsement. I read your review of your M11A1 with much interest.

How's the trigger feel on the 2022 ? I've only shot older pre Cohen P series Sigs.

[Lon]

Bruce gray of Gray Guns is likely THE premier SIG Gunsmith in the world. His carry gun is an SP2022. That, to me speaks volumes about the SP 2022.

Yep. Tells me everything I need to know.

[JodyH]

That's quite an endorsement. I read your review of your M11A1 with much interest.

How's the trigger feel on the 2022 ? I've only shot older pre Cohen P series Sigs.
It's decent, you can feel a spring move/click during the initial takeup (never felt that on a classic Sig) but after that it's smooth, stacks a little near the end with a good reset.

I like my M11A1, but the 2022 just feels like it's working better.

[Lon]

Reliable and accurate, yes.
I trust my 2022 more than I do my P229R or my M11A1.

Just outta curiosity, have you compared the loaded weight of the 2022/229?

[JodyH]

Just outta curiosity, have you compared the loaded weight of the 2022/229?
Empty weights:
2022 = 722g
P229R = 752g
M11A1 = 749g
H&K VP9 = 664g

For all four add 280g for magazine and 15+1

[Lon]

Empty weights:
2022 = 722g
P229R = 752g
M11A1 = 749g

For all three add 280g for magazine and 15+1

Thanks.

[gtmtnbiker98]

Thanks.SP2022 with RMR?

[Lon]

SP2022 with RMR?

That has crossed my mind a time or two. Can't find anyone who has done it yet. May have to email Mark H.

[LockedBreech]

I've had an SP2022 stainless 9mm with Siglites for about 8 months. I'm trading it shortly. Simplest reason in the world: I just can't get either of the grip modules to fit my hand. It just will not fit my hand.

However, in my 500 rounds with it, it ejected strongly, shot accurately, and never wobbled. I would trust it.

[spinmove_]

I've got an SP2022 in .40S&W. I also have a .357SIG barrel for it. I haven't really run it all that hard, but I've got around 1500 combined rounds through it. Shoots like a champ and I love it.

[spinmove_]

Honestly, now that I think of it, why doesn't the SP2022 get more love? It's a fantastic gun overall, reasonably priced, has a great trigger, shares the same sight dovetails as the classic P-series. About the only thing I can think of is holsters off the shelf would be hard to find, but who wouldn't rather just get a custom kydex holster for it? For a knock around gun, it really is kinda hard to beat. The ONLY thing I can really think of is that its just chunky for what is it. But then again, so is the P229...

[JodyH]

It's the "cheap" Sig, and idiots think cheaper = inferior in some capacity. The H&K VP9 has some of the same assumptions being made about it.

[ubervic]

Honestly, now that I think of it, why doesn't the SP2022 get more love? It's a fantastic gun overall, reasonably priced, has a great trigger, shares the same sight dovetails as the classic P-series.

One guess is that some who run P229 or similar are uncomfortable heaping too much praise on a pistol that is fairly similar too but costs only roughly half of that which they're running.

I do not say this with any spite or malice; I think this dynamic is something of a human-nature thing---it's difficult to reconcile how one tool can run so well versus the other yet their price points are so very different.

???

[Kyle Reese]

One guess is that some who run P229 or similar are uncomfortable heaping too much praise on a pistol that is fairly similar too but costs only roughly half of that which they're running.

I do not say this with any spite or malice; I think this dynamic is something of a human-nature thing---it's difficult to reconcile how one tool can run so well versus the other yet their price points are so very different.

???

I think that people look at the lower price point and automatically assume that because it doesn't cost as much as a Classic SIG that it's a dog.

[GardoneVT]

It's the "cheap" Sig, and idiots think cheaper = inferior in some capacity. The H&K VP9 has some of the same assumptions being made about it.

It is human nature to assign status to price. My Lincoln MK LT pickup is better then your F150 Lariat kind of psychology.

Legacy Sig Sauer pistols are basically status symbols of the gun world. Handgun BMWs, if you will.
The SP2022 is in many ways one of their best products,except in that most important of categories- gun range bragging rights.

[NickA]

I think it was Tamara who said that if SIG had priced the SP2022 at or above the P-series pistols they'd be selling by the truckload and getting more respect.

[ubervic]

Yeah, my neighbor has been busting my chops for a week, saying I bought a 'Half-Sig' or 'wannabe Sig.'

Doesn't bother me one bit. lol

[spinmove_]

Yeah, I can see that. It's just a shame because it really is a fantastic gun, especially at it's price point. Who knows, maybe I'll get one in 9mm if I happen to stumble across one and have the extra cash one of these days.

[Luke]

If money was of no object, and you planned to put a RMR on top of it and use it as a EDC and a game gun, which would you choose? P226 or 2022?

[spinmove_]

If money was of no object, and you planned to put a RMR on top of it and use it as a EDC and a game gun, which would you choose? P226 or 2022?

If money was no object? P226. Because, well, it's an awesome sidearm. But, seeing as how money is an object, SP2022, because I won't cry nearly as much if something happens to it.

[ubervic]

If money was of no object, and you planned to put a RMR on top of it and use it as a EDC and a game gun, which would you choose? P226 or 2022?

Very difficult to answer.
I'll have to cheat: for EDC I'd have to go with 2022 for its somewhat more compact sizing; for game gun I'd go with P226 for its longer grip and barrel.

[Luke]

Very difficult to answer.
I'll have to cheat: for EDC I'd have to go with 2022 for its somewhat more compact sizing; for game gun I'd go with P226 for its longer grip and barrel.

Are the trigger/grip the same?

I have enough trouble learning one gun, I'd hate to have to learn two

[Lon]

If money was of no object, and you planned to put a RMR on top of it and use it as a EDC and a game gun, which would you choose? P226 or 2022?

I emailed Mark H last night about the RMR install on the SP2022. He responded in like 5 minutes. At 9 in the evening. Figured I'd hear from him today, but nope. Man must live with his phone. He's done that several times I've emailed at night. That's why he will keep getting my business. Good CS.

Anyway, he said he hasn't done a 2022 but is willing to look at it to see if it can be done. I might have to take him up on it. Unless you want to to be the test gun? I've had a 226/RMR combo and a 229/RMR combo. For me the 229/RMR is a better carry combo. I don't think it suffers as a game gun either. The 2022 is about the same size as the 229 so I would suggest the 2022 over the 226 from a carry standpoint.

[Luke]

I'm just thinking out loud. Been telling myself after the first one the year I'm switching guns but who knows if that's true. This place makes me crazy, bought quite a few guns because of people on here and now I feel like I NEED a sig. I also am growing very fond of my rmr06 and don't plan on going back to irons anytime soon.

[spinmove_]

I'm just thinking out loud. Been telling myself after the first one the year I'm switching guns but who knows if that's true. This place makes me crazy, bought quite a few guns because of people on here and now I feel like I NEED a sig. I also am growing very fond of my rmr06 and don't plan on going back to irons anytime soon.

Needing a Sig is a given. Everyone needs a Sig. The kicker here is that you have the opportunity to actually get a Sig, a good Sig, an inexpensive yet quality Sig, that works mind you, and also have one fitted with an RMR. Just sayin'...

[JonInWA]

I owned a Sigpro 2340, the 2022's predecessor for several years-in fact, mine was literally one of the first produced, and I had both the .40 and the .357 SIG barrels for it, and an exceptionally comfortable Kramer horsehide IWB holster that I carried it in (again, I believe the first they'd made for the Sigpro).

Pros:
-Exceptionally reliable gun;
-Exceptionally durable gun;
-Good OTB Von Stavenhagen sights (bar/dot);
-Good magazines (MecGars);
-Dual grips;
-Very smooth trigger.

Cons (at least for me):
-High bore axis accentuated muzzle flip, especially with high pressure/quick pressure spiking cartridges like the .40/.357 SIG rounds;
-Neither of the grips really fit me; while they weren't bad or unusable in the least, neither just felt "right" for me. I'm sure that if I had concentrated more on the platform, I would have adapted.
-Relatively limited aftermarket support-none for grips, other than the Hogue/Pachmayer slip-on rubber grip additions. as far as I know
-Not inherently all that difficult, but a slightly different field-strip procedure that can be just a tad tricky the first time you do it (you need to balance the slide position against the recoil spring in a certain position to enable the slide stop lever to be removed). The grips can also be a bit difficult to remove, but ultimately they were not that difficult.

None of my Cons should be considered the kiss of death regarding the 2022, especially if you're satisfied with the gun as it is, and if you intend for it to be your primary EDC. It's genuinely a good pistol, and a bit lighter than the P229. SIG has never marketed it particularly aggressively, but I do consider it to be one of their best offerings. While my personal preferences are towards Glock in a polymer-framed pistol, I consider the 2022 to be a highly credible gun and a bit of a value as well-and even more so if it/you qualify for SIG's LEO/Military pricing.

Best, Jon

[45dotACP]

Another positive vote for the Sig Pro. I shot a Sig 2340 and found it it to be an accurate, reliable pistol. I just wasn't a fan of it being in .40 S&W. It's a very nice pistol and I'd recommend one easily. In 9mm, it would be a fantastic pistol, but since then, I've been pretty invested in 9mm Glocks and .45 1911's.

[LtDave]

The SP2022 in 9mm is my current EDC. I have four of them, two US made and two German made guns. All four are accurate, reliable and have excellent to great triggers out of the box. A slight edge to the German ones as far as trigger pulls, but I normally carry a US made one with factory contrast sights. They are also inexpensive and I find the small grips fit me better than the factory P229 ones and are textured just right. I also personally shoot them better than a Glock. If you want a traditional DA gun, they are hard to beat. The other plus for me is that I prefer to carry an unmodified gun for self defense and the SP2022 works fine as is.

[Casual Friday]

I first got a SP2022 in 2010. I used it as an EDC for a couple years and foolishly sold it and went back to a striker fired gun. After a year of regretting selling it, I bought another and dedicated myself to the da/sa trigger and I haven't had an urge to switch to anything else. Both SP's that I've owned have been nothing short of fantastic.

[taadski]

This place makes me crazy, bought quite a few guns because of people on here and now I feel like I NEED a sig. .

Just to be an enabler... :p

Top Gun Supply got a recent shipment of trade-in Classic series Sigs this week and are letting some of them go in the mid $400 range.


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[LSP552]

Just to be an enabler... :p

Top Gun Supply got a recent shipment of trade-in Classic series Sigs this week and are letting some of them go in the mid $400 range.


t

Thanks, I just looked at the VG models and might pick one up. IMO, you can't have too many 226s.

[ubervic]

Just to be an enabler... :p

Top Gun Supply got a recent shipment of trade-in Classic series Sigs this week and are letting some of them go in the mid $400 range.


t

GREAT SCOTT!

[Mitch]

Thanks, I just looked at the VG models and might pick one up. IMO, you can't have too many 226s.

Agreed. I'm not even in the market for one and I'm considering one of the VGs.

I wish I knew what the production years were. If I knew I'd get a pre-Cohen milled slide I'd buy one 2 hours ago.


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[azerious]

i've strongly considered picking up one of the FDE ones

[SamAdams]

I looked over an SP2022 at a LGS. I wasn't too thrilled by the trigger. Lots of stacking and I swear it felt like a 12 pound break. Maybe I'm spoiled with the sweet trigger on my pre-Cohen P239. The only other TDA pistol I have is an H&K USP45c V1 and it has a lighter DA trigger break than that SP2022.

This is a sample of one. Are other SP2022 pistols like this, or is it likely that something was wrong with that gun ? It was new.

[ubervic]

My SP2022 has a smooth DA trigger with no detectable stacking. Press is definitely not 12#. It's relatively new, with 650 rounds through it and perhaps another 400 dry trigger presses.

[SamAdams]

My SP2022 has a smooth DA trigger with no detectable stacking. Press is definitely not 12#. It's relatively new, with 650 rounds through it and perhaps another 400 dry trigger presses.

Thanks, others have spoken well of the SP2022. I suspected that something was going on with the particular sample I tried.

[GJM]

I coonfingered two new ones, in recent days, and I sure liked the stock DA trigger on each example.

[SamAdams]

I coonfingered two new ones, in recent days, and I sure liked the stock DA trigger on each example.

How would you compare it to your USP45 that you shoot Super out of ? (That's a TDA V1 isn't it ?)

[GJM]

Is the lure of the 2022 price, or is it more desirable than a 229 for EDC, regardless of price?

I always assumed it was price, like the reason someone would have a Ford instead of a Tacoma, but I am open to being educated. :)

[GJM]

How would you compare it to your USP45 that you shoot Super out of ? (That's a TDA V1 isn't it ?)

Very cursory exposure to the 2022, with no live fire, but the 2022 DA seemed better.

[SamAdams]

Very cursory exposure to the 2022, with no live fire, but the 2022 DA seemed better.

Thanks.

That definitely makes me think I need to try other SP2022s.

[JodyH]

Is the lure of the 2022 price, or is it more desirable than a 229 for EDC, regardless of price?

I always assumed it was price, like the reason someone would have a Ford instead of a Tacoma, but I am open to being educated. :)
The polymer frame seems to have fewer sharp edges than the "Classic" aluminum frames, feels better against my baby smooth skin.
The polymer frames also don't feel as cold to me on cold days or as hot on hot days as aluminum.
I'd choose the Pro over either of my Classics (M11A1, P229R) if I was going to carry a Sig DA/SA.

[GJM]

Do they take regular P series HD sights?

[JodyH]

Do they take regular P series HD sights?
Yes, but there is a Pro specific sight pusher.

[taadski]

How would you compare it to your USP45 that you shoot Super out of ? (That's a TDA V1 isn't it ?)

I can promise you the recoil will be notably more manageable. :cool:

[Sam]

Is there a false reset on these? The ones I handled seemed to have one.

[JM Campbell]

No not in my experience with 3.

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[ubervic]

Is there a false reset on these? The ones I handled seemed to have one.

I detect a minor false reset with mine only during precision/slow-fire.

[Colt191145lover]

The one I had earlier this year had a major false reset, one of my only gripes with the gun.

[LtDave]

Is the lure of the 2022 price, or is it more desirable than a 229 for EDC, regardless of price?

I always assumed it was price, like the reason someone would have a Ford instead of a Tacoma, but I am open to being educated. :)
The grip fits me better - no bulge on the top right side as on the P229. It is lighter to carry. I have several of each and carry an SP2022.

[GJM]

The grip fits me better - no bulge on the top right side as on the P229. It is lighter to carry. I have several of each and carry an SP2022.

Sig website says 29.6 ounces for the 229 and 29.0 for the 2022, I would have thought there would be more differences?

[HCM]

Sig website says 29.6 ounces for the 229 and 29.0 for the 2022, I would have thought there would be more differences?

I think the slide is heavier on the P229's.

The price makes them attractive as "utility guns" and the DA trigger on my example is excellent

[JodyH]

Sig website says 29.6 ounces for the 229 and 29.0 for the 2022, I would have thought there would be more differences?
30g (1 oz) difference according to my scale... I listed weights in post #13 of this thread.

[HCM]

30g (1 oz) difference according to my scale... I listed weights in post #13 of this thread.

I don't have a scale handy. Could you wait just the slides?

I suspect the slide on the 2022 is heavier than the P229 slide.

[GJM]

I don't have a scale handy. Could you wait just the slides?

I suspect the slide on the 2022 is heavier than the P229 slide.

I would put a PF dollar on the other side of that bet, thinking the polymer lower of the 2022 is lighter than the alloy 229 frame? Just one dollar, though.

[taadski]

What can you buy with PF dollars?

[HCM]

I would put a PF dollar on the other side of that bet, thinking the polymer lower of the 2022 is lighter than the alloy 229 frame? Just one dollar, though.

Well, they weigh the same overall - a polymer frame should be lighter than an alloy frame so I'm guessing the slide on the pro is heavier accounting for them ending up at the same weight overall.

We'll see what Jody's breaking bad limited edition scale says.

[GJM]

Well, they weigh the same overall - a polymer frame should be lighter than an alloy frame so I'm guessing the slide on the pro is heavier accounting for them ending up at the same weight overall.

We'll see what Jody's breaking bad limited edition scale says.

Oops, that is what happens when you are doing too many things at once. The 2022 without a loaded magazine definitely feels more top heavy than a 229.

[YVK]

Same weight, lighter polymer frame but heavier slide, seems like opposite to a conventional recipe for shootability vs 228/229. Did they hire the same dude who designed HK triggers?

[GJM]

Same weight, lighter polymer frame but heavier slide, seems like opposite to a conventional recipe for shootability vs 228/229. Did they hire the same dude who designed HK triggers?

I would bet (another) PF dollar that lower cost was the prime design objective for the 2022, and it just turned out that it was a good shooter.

[GJM]

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[JodyH]

Will weigh the slides this afternoon, I'm headed out to the wild, wild southwest this morning.

[rauchman]

I shot one once in Las Vegas and helped guide a newbie shooter with her first handgun choice in getting one.

I thought the pistol was as accurate as a P series Sig with a better than expected trigger. The ones I've handled had odd ergos though. I've never handled the large grip panel, but have read that most who use it find the ergos more agreeable.

Are parts easy to get? I would assume a 5,000 round interval on springs and what not?

[Sero Sed Serio]

I'm seeing the FDE versions with night sights in the wild for around $420 shipped--that's a steal for a service-quality handgun that needs nothing else done to make it run. Very tempting...

[MD7305]

I stumbled across a CPO 2022 today at a LGS today for $429. I was wanting to pick up a second 239 as a back up but that 2022 has raised some interest.

[JTQ]

With the standard floor plate, and what seems like a shorter front strap than the similarly size P229, is the SP2022 a hand pincher during mag changes?

[JM Campbell]

Yes and no, pinky out like tea time no issue. Pinky in I occasionally pinched the FRICK out of it.

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[JodyH]

Weights of complete upper assembly (slide, barrel, recoil spring assembly).

P229R : 434g (15.25 oz.)
2022 Pro : 450g (15.875 oz.)

[JodyH]

Over all the Pro is 30g lighter than the 229R.
The Pro has a heavier slide by 16g.
The Pro has a lighter frame by 46g.
So yes, the Pro is more "top heavy" than a 229R.

[LtDave]

Sig website says 29.6 ounces for the 229 and 29.0 for the 2022, I would have thought there would be more differences?
I know, but it feels like a lot less. Guess its the 124 grain vs 180 grain bullets since the 229 I usually carry is a .40.

[LtDave]

Yes and no, pinky out like tea time no issue. Pinky in I occasionally pinched the FRICK out of it.

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Yup, me too.
BTW my only gripe with the 2022 is the factory baseplates. I REALLY prefer the flat ones.

[JodyH]

There are Pro flat baseplates. I have a couple of them.

Flat on left, finger rest on right.
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[Sero Sed Serio]

There are Pro flat baseplates. I have a couple of them.

Flat on left, finger rest on right.
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On the subject of magazines, does anyone have a good source for 15 rounders? The lowest I saw was $35.99.

[ubervic]

I've not been able to find 15-rd mags for under $36.99 (CDNN)

[IUHKLMKa]

I am enjoying the more aggressive manner in which I can manipulate the 10# trigger in DA mode during presentation, whereas the roughly 4# SA mode is a delight.

[j.d.allen]

So, I picked up the new Sig this past weekend, and ran about 180 rounds through it yesterday. Ammo consisted of 147 Gr HST, 147 gr. Winchester Defend, and Federal 115 aluminum.

I literally took it out of the box, wiped off the factory grease, and started shooting. It ran flawlessly other than an occasional failure to lock the slide back on the last round through about the first 75 rounds or so. After that it locked back every time. I'm thinking the new recoil spring wasn't letting the slide travel rearward completely, although it chambered and fired every round just fine.

I LOVE this gun. The DA trigger is about as smooth as I've felt. The SA is not perfect but I have no complaints. I installed the small grip that came with it and love the feel. The grip is just about the perfect size for my hands. The gun is plenty accurate enough for this non-expert shooter.

I still have to finish putting it through its paces but I think this could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Thanks for all the info guys.

[JM Campbell]

All this 2022 love lately reminds me that I still have support gear for one....resisting the urge to buy a set to fill up the empty holsters I have. Just might put them in the EE if I can't swing more guns before Christmas.

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[azerious]

Does the false reset go away after use? Or is there a way to eliminate it?

[JodyH]

Mine doesn't have a false reset. I'd make sure a spring isn't catching or binding on something like plastic flash. I've never taken mine apart so I don't know where to start looking.

[ubervic]

So, I picked up the new Sig this past weekend, and ran about 180 rounds through it yesterday. Ammo consisted of 147 Gr HST, 147 gr. Winchester Defend, and Federal 115 aluminum.

I literally took it out of the box, wiped off the factory grease, and started shooting. It ran flawlessly other than an occasional failure to lock the slide back on the last round through about the first 75 rounds or so. After that it locked back every time. I'm thinking the new recoil spring wasn't letting the slide travel rearward completely, although it chambered and fired every round just fine.

I LOVE this gun. The DA trigger is about as smooth as I've felt. The SA is not perfect but I have no complaints. I installed the small grip that came with it and love the feel. The grip is just about the perfect size for my hands. The gun is plenty accurate enough for this non-expert shooter.

I still have to finish putting it through its paces but I think this could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

Thanks for all the info guys.

Congrats on the acquisition.

Regarding the occasional failure to lock-back the slide, make sure that you are completely clear of the slide catch lever when firing. I found that I had to adjust my grip, as even my lightest unintentional touch with right-hand thumb forward would induce the failure. I've acclimated with a flagged thumb, and all is well.

[GJM]

Alternatively, you could acclimate with about five minutes of work with a dremel, like I did with my 239.

[ubervic]

Alternatively, you could acclimate with about five minutes of work with a dremel, like I did with my 239.

Tempting...
Would you mind sharing a pic to illustrate?

[JDM]

All this 2022 love lately reminds me that I still have support gear for one....resisting the urge to buy a set to fill up the empty holsters I have. Just might put them in the EE if I can't swing more guns before Christmas.

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I'll keep my eyes peeled...

[GJM]

Tempting...
Would you mind sharing a pic to illustrate?

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[j.d.allen]

Congrats on the acquisition.

Regarding the occasional failure to lock-back the slide, make sure that you are completely clear of the slide catch lever when firing. I found that I had to adjust my grip, as even my lightest unintentional touch with right-hand thumb forward would induce the failure. I've acclimated with a flagged thumb, and all is well.


Thanks for this. I didn't think about it but that slide release is kind of prominent. I'll pay attention to this next range trip.

As for the false reset, in very slow dry firing i actually noticed two false resets. But in actual firing I didn't even notice it.

[ReverendMeat]

Apologies if bumping a month old thread is frowned upon.

In part due to this thread (though mostly due to impulse and opportunity) I picked up a new SP2022 9mm a couple days ago. Stacking some discounts at my Cabela's I was out the door, post tax, at about $250. I Just put a couple hundred through it yesterday (first range visit in over a month, also brought a G17 for comparison) and I've got a couple thoughts on it.

I've owned more SIG pistols than I can remember off the top of my head. As far as performance and pure shooting enjoyment I preferred the M11A1, but it's continuing reliability issues made me dump it and swear off SIG forever (until now obviously). 2022's recoil impulse feels the same to me but the trigger out of the box is FAR superior in DA. SA is about the same, though the M11 has a bit less overtravel and a shorter reset. My 2022 trigger does make a distinct, but soft, click before resetting but it wasn't noticeable to me while shooting, only during dry fire, and only if I'm paying attention.

Futzing about at seven yards doing DA shots from low ready resulted in ten rounds through the same hole. SA shots at 25 were as tight as I could expect given how rarely I get to shoot anymore. Had a hard time figuring out what sight picture to use, I mostly shot high.

Failure to lock back on empty happened occasionally, as happens when I shoot SIGs, but it happened less often compared to other models.

Started with the larger backstrap but I had a hard time reaching the mag release with my thumb. Switched to the small after shooting but haven't done any live fire with it yet.

Compared to the Glock, I shot it more accurately and consistently across the board. The sights were much easier to track and transitioning from one target to the next felt smoother and mostly effortless. Also less... floppy (? technical term) than my other poly-framed TDA (USP).

Ammo was 115gr FMJ, Magtech and Herter's (repackaged S&B). Pistol was shot as is out of the box with no cleaning or lubrication aside from what was applied at the factory. Will attempt 2k challenge though at the rate I've been going Hillary's gonna be president before I finish.