CD-2 Safariland speedloader holders

[BehindBlueI's]

This thing:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-Fs7epGyL.jpg

I was skeptical as to how well it would retain the speedloader for actual EDC use. I figured the cost of entry was pretty low to find out, so I ordered two and gave them a go.

What I like:

1) Jumping (with my incredible 3" vertical), 30 seconds of "the Twist" (Chubby Checker optional), and more jumping and they didn't move at all. I am not likely to hang from the monkey bars at my age, but I figure they'd do that ok as well.
2) The lack of sides makes it easier to index. I can spin them so one bullet is directly behind the metal clip and my pointer finger finds that bullet as I pull it, allowing for a more consistent reload.
3) They stay in place and don't migrate on the belt.
4) They snap on the belt easily, but don't snap off easily.

What I don't like:

1) Not aesthetically pleasing. It's ugly.
2) Retention during a struggle is likely not going to be as good as leather that completely encompasses the speedloader.
3) Price.

What I don't know yet:

1) Longevity and corrosion resistance
2) If it will mar the belt

Side note: I am practicing reloads by using a random par timer set to 3.5 seconds. I start dry firing and when the beep sounds I react as though I've hit an empty and do a speed reload. I can consistently get the gun reloaded and back up on target in the 3.5 seconds, which I think is pretty decent considering my reaction time is probably eating up .5 or so of that. I tried to push down to 3.0 and the wheels come off. I just can't consistently get the bullet to load up with the hole (giggity) or I push too hard and bind it trying to get the speedloader to release. Practice, practice, practice I suppose.

[BN]

I have some of those. I bend the outer part in toward the belt to give it more pressure against the speed loader. On some, I ran a screw up from underneath into a short piece of wooden dowel rod. The rod sits inside the bullets. That helps prevent the speed loader from pushing out the side.

I actually prefer these. http://cpwsa.com/collections/revolver-gear/products/ready-tactical-s-w-speedloader-pouch-and-moonclip-holder I usually use them with Comp lll speed loaders. The Comp ll knob doesn't stick up as much.

[Hizzie]

I consider them range duty only.

[KPD]

I consider them range duty only.

This. I keep them clipped in my go bag just to keep my speedloaders better organized. I have not had good luck keeping these holders on any belt.

[BehindBlueI's]

I consider them range duty only.


This. I keep them clipped in my go bag just to keep my speedloaders better organized. I have not had good luck keeping these holders on any belt.

How are they popping off, and what speedloaders?

[nalesq]

I have had this holder pop off before just from vigorously yanking my cover garment out of the way when drawing my revolver.

[BehindBlueI's]

I have had this holder pop off before just from vigorously yanking my cover garment out of the way when drawing my revolver.

Won't be an issue for me. I wear a suit jacket, so I'm sweeping to the side, not yanking upward.

[BN]

I consider them range duty only.

I agree. I'm not sure there is any open topped speed loader carrier that is good enough for street carry. :(

[Chuck Whitlock]

I guess they aren't made anymore, but safariland used to offer a split-six version in metal....CD-something

Carried like this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1338467174/safariland-371-split-six-leather-speedloader-pouch-comp-i-j-frame-5-shot-black

but was metal and open-top like the CD-2.

[Chuck Whitlock]

Grant Cunningham designed this:

http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/HotcakesStore/ProductViewer/tabid/113/slug/Speedloader-Case/Default.aspx

[BehindBlueI's]

I agree. I'm not sure there is any open topped speed loader carrier that is good enough for street carry. :(

What issues have kept them from being good enough for street carry? I'm specifically interested in any shortcomings that came up in plain clothes carry. I can see where they'd be insufficient for uniform or OC carry as a struggle could dislodge them pretty easily.

[BN]

What issues have kept them from being good enough for street carry? I'm specifically interested in any shortcomings that came up in plain clothes carry. I can see where they'd be insufficient for uniform or OC carry as a struggle could dislodge them pretty easily.
The speed loaders are easily knocked out. Just a sideways swipe will do it sometimes. The post I put in some of mine helps prevent that, but they are still not secure. If I was to carry a revolver with speed loaders, I would design something like the Ready Tactical, only much deeper and I would carry the Comp lll or similar spring loaded loader with a longer handle. That package isn't much bulkier than a double stack mag. Blade-Tech used to make a split speed loader carrier that carried 3 rounds behind the belt with the other 3 in front of the belt. Something like that only deeper would work.

[Malamute]

I wonder if gluing thin leather rough side exposed to the belt inside the belt clip would improve its grip on the belt?

May help hold the loader also if some was glued in the wide part at the top front.

I have one or two of these, I forgot I had them.

[Hizzie]

I guess they aren't made anymore, but safariland used to offer a split-six version in metal....CD-something

Carried like this: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1338467174/safariland-371-split-six-leather-speedloader-pouch-comp-i-j-frame-5-shot-black

but was metal and open-top like the CD-2.

CD-6

Very uncomfortable. Downright painful to wear.

[BehindBlueI's]

I wonder if gluing thin leather rough side exposed to the belt inside the belt clip would improve its grip on the belt?

May help hold the loader also if some was glued in the wide part at the top front.

I have one or two of these, I forgot I had them.

There's a piece of rubber inside the front piece already.

Hmm, well, I'll test it and give it a go. I think for carry in a suit it's not going to be a big issue. I just don't think I whack myself in the waist at 2 o'clock that much, but time will tell. I'm also positioning it between my badge and holster, which gives it some protection. Absolutely no way I'd OC them, though, or on a duty belt.

[Chuck Whitlock]

CD-6

Very uncomfortable. Downright painful to wear.

Thanks for the data point.

[Jim Watson]

Ready Tac used to make a Kydex speed loader holder of similar concept to the sheet metal Safariland. But it had retaining hooks on its mini-paddle back and the front was cupped around the loader more. Not as secure as a flapped pouch, but still better than the Safariland. He quit making them because IDPA in its wisdom banned the whole open sided design instead of singling out the Safariland.

Same deal on magazine carriers. The Ready Tac "claw" was light, compact, and as secure as an open top can be. But the metal Safariland wasn't, so the BoD threw out the baby with the bathwater and required that the outside surface of the magazine be covered. The replacement design looks better and is actually faster for the competitive draw, but has less retention.

[41magfan]

I bought those metal Safariland holders when they first came out and used them as range gear occasionally, but would never consider using them for anything serious. I routinely dislodged loaders from the pouch in aggressively assuming and recovering from prone shooting.

Has anyone ever used the JOX loader pouch? My initial impression of them is positive, but I've never handled them.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/905/ryuIrL.png (https://imageshack.com/i/p5ryuIrLp)

[BN]

The JOX looks like it might be pretty good. If I was going to carry a revolver, I'd order a couple for either the Comp lll, Jetloader or SL Varient.

[SLG]

I have an Andrews custom pouch on the way. Not open top, but seems to be the best option out there now.

[41magfan]

I have an Andrews custom pouch on the way. Not open top, but seems to be the best option out there now.

Is this it .....?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/903/vdS2zr.png (https://imageshack.com/i/p3vdS2zrp)

It looks like a refined iteration of the Safariland Split-Six design that I used briefly when we still carried revolvers ..... it worked fine.

[SLG]

41,

That's it. Seems like the current best solution to me for field use or CC. Not competition, of course. I have some of the old Safariland ones, but only for K frames, so I ordered an N frame from Andrews.

[ST911]

I bought those metal Safariland holders when they first came out and used them as range gear occasionally, but would never consider using them for anything serious. I routinely dislodged loaders from the pouch in aggressively assuming and recovering from prone shooting.

Has anyone ever used the JOX loader pouch? My initial impression of them is positive, but I've never handled them.



I've been using some JOX pouches for several months, EDC, matches, training, etc. They are GTG. I've been meaning to write them up in detail.

[41magfan]

I've been using some JOX pouches for several months, EDC, matches, training, etc. They are GTG. I've been meaning to write them up in detail.

That's good to hear ... Thanks.

[BehindBlueI's]

I routinely dislodged loaders from the pouch in aggressively assuming and recovering from prone shooting.


I just call that "falling down" but I can see where that would be an issue if one were to do it intentionally. I'll have to test that out. Preferably when someone is here to help me back up.

[KPD]

How are they popping off, and what speedloaders?

Comp II Speedloaders and the whole holder usually pops off the belt just from sitting down. If it doesn't come off completely it works its way half way off. It doesn't matter what material the belt is made from or who made it. The end result has always been the same for me with these speedloader holders.

[NEPAKevin]

It seems to me that the problem with speedloader and moon clip carriers is getting enough retention with out slowing down the "draw" for lack of a better term. I made a kydex prototype that seemed to do this by using a retention screw but have not had the skill and patience to reproduce it.

ETA: The other possible problem area is that most holders I have seen use some form of clip instead of a belt loop. Easier to take on and off, with out removing the belt but not as secure.