UNT Dean of Journalism Stopped by Police [Archive]

Chance

10-28-2015, 11:18 PM

Wonder why the media is so biased against cops? Because they're being taught by people like Dorothy Bland. From Dallas Morning News (http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/latest-columns/20151028-dorothy-bland-i-was-caught-walking-while-black.ece?hootPostID=4acf4f0c45ee43b1e3c9033ff0974 1c0):

Flashing lights and sirens from a police vehicle interrupted a routine Saturday morning walk in my golf-course community in Corinth.

I often walk about 3 miles near daybreak as part of my daily exercise. However, on Oct. 24, I delayed my walk until late morning as I waited for the rain to stop. I was dressed in a gray hooded “Boston” sweatshirt, black leggings, white socks, plus black-and-white Nike running shoes. Like most African-Americans, I am familiar with the phrase “driving while black,” but was I really being stopped for walking on the street in my own neighborhood?

....

Knowing that the police officers are typically armed with guns and are a lot bigger than my 5 feet, 4 inches, I had no interest in my life’s story playing out like Trayvon Martin’s death. I stopped and asked the two officers if there was a problem; I don’t remember getting a decent answer before one of the officers asked me where I lived and for identification.

She was stopped because she had her ear buds in and was obliviously walking in the road, blocking traffic. The conversation was brief, and resulted in nothing.

45dotACP

10-28-2015, 11:36 PM

Bravo for the chief responding and putting the story into context.

"I was black and two white police officers talked to me and therefore violated my civil rights."

"No, you were almost hit by a truck and two men who serve their community...one of them probably more of a teacher than you'll ever be...were worried that your Urban Praise radio was too loud to hear a few thousand pounds of metal coming up fast behind you."

It would seem that she has actually not "entered into company with Henry Louis Gates and others with the same experience".

womp womp womp

Gray222

10-29-2015, 07:29 AM

The second it becomes a race thing - normally brought to attention by racially-driven people - their stance and/or opinion is irrelevant.

If you are walking in the road obstructing traffic, well, you probably should be told my the police to move.

Dagga Boy

10-29-2015, 07:39 AM

I live in the same kind of community. Same issue with walking in the middle of the street and it is everyone else's responsibility to drive around them....and slowly. I find it funny that the folks in my community who complain about my driving are all the idiots in the street, often walking two abreast.

This is a case where cops need to quite caring as the world would be a better place with this special victim class dumbass as a hood ornament for a trash truck.

JM Campbell

10-29-2015, 07:58 AM

#walkingshoesandtightsmatter

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GardoneVT

10-29-2015, 08:37 AM

"Tonight on Discovery Channel: we profile law enforcement's newest response unit.

Named the Special Snowflake Response Team, they're called whenever white officers find themselves pinned down by political correctness. We went with them on a call :

91-got a subject blocking traffic. Subject is black, and female. I've taken SJW buzzwords and request backup. Be advised subject has a 20 megapixel iPhone camera.

--hold position. Dispatching Snowflake team to your 20-- '

Follow us tonight at 7 to see what happens next!"

LittleLebowski

10-29-2015, 08:42 AM

Seriously, I'm ready for the below:

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Chance

10-29-2015, 09:17 AM

Seriously, I'm ready for the below:

This thread parallels the "Ferguson Effect" thread pretty well. How much of this shit are cops supposed to put up with before they stop showing up for work?

Dagga Boy

10-29-2015, 09:25 AM

This thread parallels the "Ferguson Effect" thread pretty well. How much of this shit are cops supposed to put up with before they stop showing up for work?

They need to show up for the check, and conduct armed secretary work. In the future when the local Klan president in his pickup is upset about a African-american professor trying to walk in the middle of the street....because anybody but the local klan president would know that not obeying pedestrian traffic laws is part of her African-american culture, can go suck an egg. White cops will figure out that it is far better to simply take a traffic accident report when a victim class is involved rather than correct the issue before it happens.

LittleLebowski

10-29-2015, 09:35 AM

Her research interests include media management, marketing, digital/social media and diversity.

LittleLebowski

10-29-2015, 09:36 AM

This thread parallels the "Ferguson Effect" thread pretty well. How much of this shit are cops supposed to put up with before they stop showing up for work?

These people want an end to proactive policing, so be it.

Jeep

10-29-2015, 10:22 AM

I have women in my neighborhood do this same walking in the middle of the road thing as well, even though we have sidewalks--just like the Dean's neighborhood has.

What I want to know, though, is what that weird arm flapping stuff she was doing is about. Was she trying to be a bird?

peterb

10-29-2015, 10:52 AM

Heck, sometimes I do arm circles and stretches when I'm walking. Sometimes in a headwind I still make wings and airplane sounds. Not going to jump on someone for stuff like that.

But I'm facing traffic, and don't have wires in my ears.

olstyn

10-29-2015, 11:29 AM

But I'm facing traffic, and don't have wires in my ears.

First, I'm not on her side; walking in the middle of the street is just stupid, even if there isn't a sidewalk, but to be fair to her, there's no way for us to know what her volume setting was. I was a bike commuter for a lot of years, and for most of that time, I'd be listening to music on my iPod while riding to work, but i kept the volume at a modest level, and a Toyota Prius couldn't sneak up on me without me hearing it, even when I was listening to really angry metal. Of course, if she had her music too loud to hear what was going on around her, then she was being multiple kinds of stupid, and I withdraw any objection to the criticism leveled at her here. :)

Dagga Boy

10-29-2015, 11:33 AM

Reading her version of what happened versus the video makes it painfully clear why she is a professor of Journalism. A perfect example why true journalists are such a rarity. Essentially, her title should be "Professor of lying spin and pure fabrication". She does identify as a special victim class, so the fact that she isn't able to do any sort of real journalism should not be held against her.

The comments are actually worth reading...

SamAdams

10-29-2015, 11:59 AM

Chance

10-29-2015, 12:03 PM

The comments are actually worth reading...

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GardoneVT

10-29-2015, 12:13 PM

This woman 'teaches' kids.

Send your kid to college for anything other than the hard sciences & engineering, and it seems like you're rolling the dice.

And if/when it ever becomes p.c. for 2+2 to not be = 4, that bet will have gone sour too.

Even STEM majors have to take BS core classes, a few of them taught by people with less sense then most people's sofas.

DocGKR

10-29-2015, 12:18 PM

The Chief's response was model of how an LE professional should support their officers.

Jared

10-29-2015, 01:53 PM

I read quite a ways into the comments. Overwhelmingly pro cop on that one, as it should have been. Maybe, just maybe, people are starting to get fed up with this shit.

Coyotesfan97

10-29-2015, 02:17 PM

Just another example of not letting facts get in the way of a good story right from the top.

Jeep

10-29-2015, 02:21 PM

I read quite a ways into the comments. Overwhelmingly pro cop on that one, as it should have been. Maybe, just maybe, people are starting to get fed up with this shit.

I think that a lot of people were fed up a long time ago. Women like her can dominate the media and because of that domination, it sometimes seem that the lunatics have completely taken over. But my guess is that her opinions wouldn't be in the majority even in her own neighborhood.

Joe in PNG

10-29-2015, 02:50 PM

What if the cops had just driven on, and the Prof was ran over and expensively injured by Cherri Cheerleader- who happened to be texting on her I-Phone while speeding. You'd very likely see an angry letter from the same Prof about the racist cops who saw her doing something unsafe by walking in the road on the wrong side... and just let her do it. Because racism.

Totem Polar

10-29-2015, 02:50 PM

I read quite a ways into the comments. Overwhelmingly pro cop on that one, as it should have been. Maybe, just maybe, people are starting to get fed up with this shit.

Once again, I'm with jeep, in the post above mine. I think a lot of people are fed up, but a lot of the same people who are tired of this horseshit are too busy trying to be productive to regularly participate in comment wars online. You can bet that if the comments on an article get to the point where they skew pro-LE overall, then the issue under discussion is likely so cut and dried as if to be practically unanimous. Typically, comment wars seem to be the purview of the quasi-employed, with predictably resultant biases. JMO.

RoyGBiv

10-29-2015, 02:53 PM

Erick Gelhaus

10-29-2015, 03:06 PM

The Chief's response was model of how an LE professional should support their officers.

Wut?

Peally

10-29-2015, 03:14 PM

Wut?

It wasn't? Elaborate.

Jared

10-29-2015, 03:57 PM

I think that a lot of people were fed up a long time ago. Women like her can dominate the media and because of that domination, it sometimes seem that the lunatics have completely taken over. But my guess is that her opinions wouldn't be in the majority even in her own neighborhood.

Oh, I pretty much agree. I know that practically everyone I work with was sick of it last year, if not before then. It's just that I know we're in a pretty conservative community. I have no idea what the general mood of folks like me is in the larger cities.

Chance

10-29-2015, 04:23 PM

I read quite a ways into the comments. Overwhelmingly pro cop on that one, as it should have been. Maybe, just maybe, people are starting to get fed up with this shit.

I can't help but wonder if the comments would have been different if this "incident" took place someplace other than Texas, or if it was reported on HuffPo rather than the DMN.

Roy mirrored my thoughts exactly.

I'm really tempted to start a call for her resignation (...like that would do any good, but it would make me feel better). Elements of her reconstruction of events are certifiably false, and I've seen more than one journalism major speak up about it.

DocGKR

10-29-2015, 05:07 PM

Peally--I suspect Angus is merely amazed that any LE administrator/Chief could actually support their officers, especially given how many so readily throw their folks under the bus for political gain...

Dagga Boy

10-29-2015, 08:29 PM

Feel free to comment. She is getting hammered.

https://www.facebook.com/northtexas/?fref=nf

Kyle Reese

10-29-2015, 09:45 PM

Good thing Leon Lott isn't running that department.

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Hambo

10-30-2015, 07:24 AM

I would have asked her why UNT's football team sucks so bad.

Dagga Boy

10-30-2015, 08:01 AM

I would have asked her why UNT's football team sucks so bad.

That has been brought up in some of the comments from the standpoint of "isn't our football team enough of an embarrassment".

Some other "journalism" person from the school doubled down in another article using the white apologist and "you don't understand" line of thought. She is getting ripped now as well. It is nice to see how Texans respond to this. At Harvard or Columbia, the support would be huge for this idiot.

Peally

10-30-2015, 08:04 AM

Feel free to comment. She is getting hammered.

https://www.facebook.com/northtexas/?fref=nf

I love the university's PC non confrontational posting. See it from all points of view my ass, you either see it from a normal person's point of view or a racist moron's point of view :D

Jeep

10-30-2015, 08:38 AM

Oh, I pretty much agree. I know that practically everyone I work with was sick of it last year, if not before then. It's just that I know we're in a pretty conservative community. I have no idea what the general mood of folks like me is in the larger cities.

Jared: I live in an increasingly dark blue state and work in a profession in which it is becoming increasingly unthinkable not to at least pretend you are a liberal. Because I am openly contemptuous about modern leftism and all its works, I have a lot of people whisper to me their real thoughts. More than a few also have asked me to (quasi-secretly) teach them how to shoot.

From that I can tell you that a lot of people (1) had really hoped that Obama would be able to bring the races together; (2) are appalled by what has actually happened, including the open race baiting by idiots such as this Dean; (3) are worried that the relentless racialism of left will lead to further racial violence; and (4) feel that their personal safety is now at risk.

There are a lot of people in this country who are getting very, very angry about what is going on, and idiots like this Dean have no idea about the hostility they are creating. This phony playing the victim card nonsense, and relentless repetition of a narrative many, and perhaps most, people know is little more than a tissue of lies is doing their cause no good and might, I think, lead to a real backlash, just like similar events did in the 1970's.

scw2

10-30-2015, 09:02 AM

From that I can tell you that a lot of people (1) had really hoped that Obama would be able to bring the races together; (2) are appalled by what has actually happened, including the open race baiting by idiots such as this Dean; (3) are worried that the relentless racialism of left will lead to further racial violence; and (4) feel that their personal safety is now at risk.

Fixed it for you:
(2) are appalled by what has actually happened, including the open race baiting by Obama

Peally

10-30-2015, 09:05 AM

From that I can tell you that a lot of people (1) had really hoped that Obama would be able to bring the races together; (2) are appalled by what has actually happened, including the open race baiting by idiots such as this Dean; (3) are worried that the relentless racialism of left will lead to further racial violence; and (4) feel that their personal safety is now at risk.

The more you can make these people speak up and make their opinions known the better. Whispers and personal thoughts of "this is getting pretty bad but I shouldn't say anything" tend to end with crimes against humanity given enough decades ;)

Jeep

10-30-2015, 09:16 AM

The more you can make these people speak up and make their opinions known the better. Whispers and personal thoughts of "this is getting pretty bad but I shouldn't say anything" tend to end with crimes against humanity given enough decades ;)

You are absolutely correct. Unfortunately, one of the main purposes of the John Dewey-designed education system that we adopted 100 years ago was to raise conformists who would fit into the new administrative state. I see the results daily--large numbers of people who are scared to say what they really believe because they have been taught that they really aren't allowed to say what they believe.

Chance

10-30-2015, 10:05 AM

Does anyone know if the field of journalism has a doctoral level degree? Bland doesn't have a doctorate, which seems kind of odd for someone in the position of a dean.

ETA:

I sent an email to UNT's President Neal Smatresk (president@unt.edu) and CC'd Bland herself (Dorothy.bland@unt.edu) to call for her resignation. I loathe that I've devolved into a self-righteous, online "activist", but fuck it: lady doesn't need to have the job.

Drang

10-30-2015, 10:13 AM

Seriously, I'm ready for the below:

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Peally

10-30-2015, 10:16 AM

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I'd vote for that

RoyGBiv

10-30-2015, 11:37 AM

Have I got a Presidential Candidate for you! Sweet Meteor O'Death 2016 (https://twitter.com/smod2016)

Thanks for that... LOL.
Might need to change my user name... SROD... Sweet Rainbow Of Death.

Totem Polar

10-30-2015, 12:01 PM

Sweet Rainbow Of Death.
:D

MichaelD

10-30-2015, 01:59 PM

SMOD definitely has my vote!

JodyH

10-30-2015, 02:25 PM

Should have cited her...

"A pedestrian may not walk along and on a roadway if an adjacent sidewalk is provided and is accessible to the pedestrian.

If a sidewalk is not provided, a pedestrian walking along and on a highway shall if possible walk on: (1) the left side of the roadway; or (2) the shoulder of the highway facing oncoming traffic. Tex. Transp. Code § 552.006."

Dagga Boy

10-30-2015, 02:55 PM

Should have cited her...

They should mail her.....or better yet, deliver her a summons to court.

Totem Polar

10-30-2015, 03:07 PM

They should mail her.....or better yet, deliver her a summons to court.

Win. Anyone who finishes a conversation with LE by saying "and I pay a lot of taxes" deserves the full benefit of the contribution, IMNSHO.

NEPAKevin

10-30-2015, 03:23 PM

While running an errand, I drove through the public school campus and passed two ladies apparently walking for exercise and am pleased to say that they were both using the sidewalks and in no way impeding traffic or harassing law enforcement. One was doing a variation of the flappy arm thing.

Dagga Boy

10-30-2015, 03:45 PM

The way I look these days, I need to throw on some appropriate clothing and hang out by her house....bet she profiles me based on my look....:-).

Jeep

10-30-2015, 05:19 PM

The way I look these days, I need to throw on some appropriate clothing and hang out by her house....bet she profiles me based on my look....:-).

Make sure you wear a hoodie.

Dagga Boy

10-30-2015, 08:02 PM

Make sure you wear a hoodie.

Absolutely...!

10-30-2015, 08:04 PM

Absolutely...!

Maybe flap your arms. :)

SeriousStudent

10-30-2015, 08:11 PM

Absolutely...!

Good idea. Conceal the Spartan helmet until it's too late for her to do anything about it.

Coyotesfan97

10-30-2015, 11:08 PM

Should have cited her...

Anytime you give someone a break standby for the complaint.

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Coyotesfan97

10-30-2015, 11:10 PM

The way I look these days, I need to throw on some appropriate clothing and hang out by her house....bet she profiles me based on my look....:-).

Wearing the Viking helmet au natural?

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will_1400

11-01-2015, 09:28 PM

Showing my nerd here, but I say go Mandalorian.

Dagga Boy

11-01-2015, 09:34 PM

Wearing the Viking helmet au natural?

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No, I save that for in my own home. I am afraid of getting captured by the Bigfoot hunters that are running around.

tanner

11-02-2015, 01:56 AM

Anytime you give someone a break standby for the complaint.

+100 from a guy whose job requires him to investigate these types of worthless complaints.

My people get mentored thusly, anyone who makes a fuss gets the reason for the stop put in writing. Right around 99% of the time, it will turn a citizen complaint into a civil infraction hearing instead. And less paperwork/video review for their grumpy sergeant.

Gray222

11-02-2015, 06:13 AM

When in doubt, write it out.

Breaks are for people who deserve them.

1slow

11-02-2015, 09:32 AM

When I was a teen, when stopped I always passed the "attitude" test. Yes sir, no sir etc... I figured I was in enough trouble and did not need to add to it by being rude. In general passing the "attitude test" saved me much aggravation.
Whether I thought I was right or wrong, I was always polite. I was grateful for any breaks. Filing a complaint was not in my world view especially if given a break. Pay the ticket or tell it to the judge.
This was in rural VA in the 1970s.
In general being polite when you can helps. Why "dig your grave with your mouth."
I really do not understand mouthy idiots.

Jeep

11-02-2015, 10:13 AM

Dagga Boy

11-02-2015, 10:28 AM

I got stopped a lot as a teen.....it was teen driver profiling, and the one cop who "picked on me" more than any likely saved my life in retrospect. I was always very respectful as the rules in my house were very simple...you go to jail, nobody is coming to get you. Like mayor blowhard in NYC, my parents counseled me on how to act with the police, the difference was that I was told it was automatically my fault that I brought attention to myself and was likely doing something stupid, so I better be nothing but respectful to any officer I interacted with. I guarantee I had far more LE interaction than most, but I can be honest and say it was because I was a stupid teen, not because of any sort of bias. And before anyone says that I don't know about this stuff because I was white...I had a big Afro in high school, and if someone was looking at me in a car, I likely looked more black than white. I was only stopped with actual probable cause.

RoyGBiv

11-02-2015, 11:43 AM

I had a big Afro in high school,
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRHNF82gWD8nU4mXDgg4iKBGiTakvPF 3ORcieTKY2eWR_xc430JQ

Coyotesfan97

11-02-2015, 03:10 PM

Pedestrians generally have to do something stupid to get me to stop them like looking right at me and then walking against the red light where I'm stopped. This is a black and white Tahoe with a knucklehead in the back barking his fool head off.

It's amazing how many have warrants. About half the time I get an argument or race card player. They get a ticket. I've never been to court on one (knocks on wood).

Kennydale

11-02-2015, 05:59 PM

More like WALKING LIKE BIG BIRD. If she was blocking the Police Cruiser? It's really an unmarked road. Honest opinion...don't they have real crime to handle?

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JodyH

11-02-2015, 06:02 PM

Dagga Boy

11-02-2015, 07:16 PM

hufnagel

11-02-2015, 07:39 PM

I heard a trash truck called her in because they almost ran over her.

Just a guess on my part but I bet she talked shit to the trash guys who almost hit her and that's why they called her in.
Trash guys don't usually give a shit, but I bet she pissed them off with her entitled Nubian Princess attitude.

Aida (http://broadwaymusicalhome.com/shows/aida.htm) was a REALLY good show on Broadway with the original cast. Back when I felt safe enough to go into NYC. Think it was the Gulianni years.

JodyH

11-02-2015, 07:44 PM

The story I heard was the trash truck initially called her in, the cops were doing a cruise by "we investigated, lets go get coffee" type thing and observed a pickup having to swerve around her and the driver giving the cops a WTF? look.
Now the cops were pretty much forced to actually do something about her dumb ass.
Went from an easy cruise by "smile and wave" to "shit we're gonna be on YouTube".

Totem Polar

11-02-2015, 08:19 PM

Y'know, I don't know anything from anything on LE procedure, but I am nonetheless seeing a pattern here: somebody calls something in, cop draws the short stick just by being closest. This dean chick; Michael Brown acting and looking *exactly* like a suspect on radio traffic; that resource officer in SC... and many, many others. Choice: do your job, and eat a viral media shit sandwich, or just keep on driving while Seargeant Schultz's voice from Hogan's heroes plays in your head.

https://cinemarant.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/sgt-schultz-nothing.gif

TAZ

11-02-2015, 09:08 PM

I'd bet she's also the type to dress in all black and go for her jog in pitch black and then bitch when someone clips her. We really should extend Castle Doctrine laws to forbid those getting hurt while they break any law from having any civil recourse.

Coyotesfan97

11-02-2015, 09:57 PM

More like WALKING LIKE BIG BIRD. If she was blocking the Police Cruiser? It's really an unmarked road. Honest opinion...don't they have real crime to handle?

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You can handle one call at a time and you sometimes don't get a choice what you get. It's funny how much "real crime" you can solve enforcing minor violations. I love drunks asking me how come I wasn't out catching burglars. The burglars asked how come I wasn't catching drunks.

I guess you could ignore her and then have to explain to the boss why she's the new hood ornament on the trash truck. More likely the guy in the pickup beefs you for not stopping her.

Damned if you do damned if you don't.

Gray222

11-03-2015, 07:21 AM

Don't know if its been posted.....dashcam video - http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/02/dashcam-video-undermines-texas-profs-claim-racial-profiling-says-chief/?intcmp=hpbt2 - warning it autoplays

Chance

11-03-2015, 09:39 AM

I heard a trash truck called her in because they almost ran over her.

Where did you see this?

Shellback

11-03-2015, 09:43 AM

I thought they were very professional and courteous.

Gray222

11-03-2015, 09:55 AM

Where did you see this?

The officer's said it was a call and that a trash truck had to wait for her to move in the video...

OnionsAndDragons

11-07-2015, 02:32 AM

Now I really hate her. I love trash trucks and trash guys. They are my hero's. I always stop and thank them in the neighborhood. Heck, I have helped load heavy items so they'll take them (if one guy can't get it in the truck, it has to get left for a special truck that comes one day a week). Unlike me, I bet she feels very above the trash guys who likely don't live in a gated community and pay lots of taxes. Screw her.

I now feel a strange kinship with you for loving trash guys.

The trash guys save more lives than anyone in our civilization, and really deserve some fraking respect.

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