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Mr_White
10-02-2015, 09:29 AM
Week 132: iHack

Results may be posted until November 2nd, 2015.

designed from the: Hackathorn 3-Second Head Shot Standards
Range: 5yd
Target: three 2" circles - download here: http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/6x2in-circles.pdf
Start position: varies (see below)
Rounds fired: 45

The iHack is an indoor range friendly version of the famous Hackathorn 3-Second Head Shot Standards. The targets are much closer together but also significantly smaller than the regular version of the drill.

PAR time is set to three seconds for each string. There are three strings of fire.

1. Fire one (and only one) shot at each target, going from left to right
2. Fire one (and only one) shot at each target, going from right to left.
3. Fire one (and only one) shot at each target, beginning with the middle target and then finishing with the two outside targets in any order.

Shots fired after the 3-second PAR time count as misses. In total, you will fire nine rounds (three shots in three seconds, times three strings of fire) for each run of the drill. A "passing" score is 7 out of 9.

There are three "levels" to the drill based on start position for each 3-shot string. From easiest to hardest, they are: ready position (pistol cannot be pointed at the target), open top holster with no concealment, and either concealed or retention holster. You can choose whichever ready position you wish. If the drill proves too hard or easy, switch to a different "level" as appropriate.

Shoot the drill a total of five times (45 shots).

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

starting position (ready position, open holster, retention holster, or concealed)
hits for each of the five runs
aggregate score

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

JHC
10-04-2015, 03:03 PM
Ok first, who the hell has a 2 inch brain pan? Diplodocus?

Shot from concealment, open jacket, OWB
Glock 17 RTF2

Hits:
1. 5
2. 4
3. 4
4. 6
5. 9 woot woot!
28 hits out of 45

Hard standard!
Middle then alternating sides scored lowest vs right-left or left-right.

RJ
10-04-2015, 03:15 PM
Love this.

I have to have 2s between shots at my range (their circus, and I'm the monkey) so I will do this next week w a par of 6.0s.

Looks like a great drill.

42TNred
10-04-2015, 03:48 PM
Starting from low ready. (Range does not allow drawing from holster). Gen 3 G19

1) 8/9
2) 8/9
3) 7/9
4) 8/9
5) 7/9

38/45


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Matt O
10-04-2015, 04:44 PM
Started from the draw for the first 3 and low ready for last 2. First range trip in several months and my inactivity was rather palpable.

1) 6/9
2) 7/9
3) 7/9
4) 7/9
5) 8/9

I missed the par time a couple times in the beginning which caused me to speed up too much for the remaining runs.

Mr_White
10-05-2015, 01:01 PM
Ok first, who the hell has a 2 inch brain pan? Diplodocus?

That is hilarious, I love it!

JHC
10-05-2015, 01:42 PM
yeah well, I'm going to try this again from the ready position as from the concealed draw was not so good. :D

bigslim
10-06-2015, 02:14 PM
starting position: High compressed ready

hits for each of the five runs
1) 3
2) 7
3) 3
4) 4
5) 5

aggregate score: 22/45

Damn this was tough, between straight up misses and running out of time, this drill jacked me up and stole my lunch money.

Mike

Luke
10-06-2015, 04:32 PM
This drill was so hard. And I have no idea why. 2" at 5 yards doesn't seem hard but this was horrible. After the first few strings I was so pissed i finished the drill strong hand only and weak hand only. Managed 20/45 which was horrible. Almost all of my misses were low.

Chris Rhines
10-07-2015, 07:19 PM
I hate this drill.

Shooting my STI 2011 .40 limited gun, with 180grn. XTreme plated bullets over 5.0grn. WST.

5/9
8/9
7/9
8/9
8/9
36/45.

2" dots can just go and die.

MVS
10-08-2015, 06:56 PM
3997

I took the easy road and did them from low ready. Shame on me. Finished most strings in around 2.25.

1)9
2)9
3)8
4)8
5)9

Really tried to not use the pin and reset method on this.

bigslim
10-13-2015, 01:17 PM
starting position: High compressed ready

hits for each of the five runs
1) 3
2) 3
3) 5
4) 4
5) 5

aggregate score: 20/45

Damn this was tough, between straight up misses and running out of time, this drill jacked me up and stole my lunch money.

Mike

GRV
10-13-2015, 02:49 PM
Starting position: compressed ready, muzzle angled down

G17

Hits in par time:
5
4
2
5
4
= 20/45

Oof.

I can't hit 3/3 in the par time. I can hit 2/3 in the par time without trouble. I ended up pushing fast to try to land 3/3, which is just unrealistic for me right now, and ended up with a lot of 1/3 and 0/3 runs. If I would have just shot it at the pace where I could actually make all three hits, and ignored the par time, I'd have probably done much better and gotten better practice out of the drill.

4051
(red marked shots were there before drill...not that it makes it less terrible)

eyemahm
10-13-2015, 03:26 PM
HK USP TDA

Starting position - high, compressed ready (pistol pointed below target).

Runs were 4, 4, 4, 3, 4.
19/45 total

Need to work on getting sights to return to same position, with a higher level of precision, and getting press out to be more precise. Getting 2 decent shots in the 3 sec par time was ok, but 3 was not really possible. On the plus side, there weren't any bad misses and trigger control was ok.

4052

GRV
10-18-2015, 12:57 PM
I can hit 2/3 in the par time without trouble.

Apparently I'm full of shit.

4, 2, 5, 4, 4 = 21/45, but eyemahm and I think I jumped the timer on one or two, so it is probably 19/45

It was hard not to rush into trying to get 3/3, and I definitely ended up rushing that way a lot. But, I tried to just shoot for 2/3 in the par and to actually hit the 3rd, at whatever pace I could.
Ended up with 0/3 3 times, 1/3 5 times, and 2/3 7 times. Hits look better though.

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy6/dove-pf/Training%20Journal/2015-10-14%20Weekly%20Practice/IMAG0649_zps5e6ddx1s.jpg (http://s772.photobucket.com/user/dove-pf/media/Training%20Journal/2015-10-14%20Weekly%20Practice/IMAG0649_zps5e6ddx1s.jpg.html)

Taped rounds count, we just couldn't see new shots after a while.

Matt O
10-19-2015, 01:08 PM
Shot this again with the 1911 from the high ready:

5/9
7/9
8/9
7/9
8/9

I was working through a bit of a flinching/pre-ignition push issue at the beginning of the range session, so I will admit I stopped the drill in the middle, did some cadence and recoil management stuff and then came back to the drill to finish up. Add me to the "dislikes 2" circles" crowd. :(

Clobbersaurus
10-20-2015, 08:28 PM
I absolutely slaughtered myself on this drill.

It was a soul sucking, pride swallowing siege just to get through it.

I could not hit PAR times to save my life. I started to get pissed with myself so I decided to just go balls to the wall to push speed. This was interesting for me since I never usually do that. So I decided just to let the wheels fall off and blaze these as fast as I could. Two interesting things happened.

1) I realized how much I've come to rely on sight focused shooting. I was shooting at a different range and I was basically shooting out of a dark shed into the daylight. My usually bright orange painted front sight appeared totally black and I couldn't really get a sharp definition on it, the shed was too dark. The tritium wasn't visible, it was a weird ligthting situation, and It gave me lots to discover. I missed being able to pick up the red front sight in my peripheral as I presented the gun to the target, and I felt slow trying to get on the front sight.

2) When I really started to push speed I decided to focus on the target, and I ended up with some interesting results. My times dropped, obviously, but they dropped huge. Accuracy sucked, but interestingly as I got more comfortable with it, groups tightened. Most shots went low, which was probably a result of me looking over the sights. You can see on the target below, on the bottom row all the hits clustered below the circles. Anyway, it was an interesting experiment for me. I think target focussed shooting warrants some more testing, especially with wide open targets at close ranges, and with being able to see my front sight.

I shot it from concealed. Beretta Elite II, appendix holster, Blackhawk mag pouches under a knit shirt.

I didn't really know how to score this with all the misses and over times, so here is the raw data.

1) 4.04 2 miss
2) 3.96 1 miss
3) 3.20 clean

1) 3.26 clean
2) 2.90 1 miss
3) 2.55 2 miss

1) 2.71 3 miss
2) 3.01 2 miss
3) 2.66 3 miss

1) 3.31 all miss
2) 2.72 2 miss
3) 2.51 all miss

1) 2.36 2 miss
2) 2.56 3 miss
3) 2.19 3 miss

http://i.imgur.com/mOOvcHZ.jpg

bigslim
10-22-2015, 04:58 PM
starting position: High compressed ready

hits for each of the five runs
1) 2
2) 5
3) 5
4) 3
5) 5

aggregate score: 20/45

This drill is really not getting any easier for me, I am consistently hitting the third shot but it is always over the par time.

Mike

bigslim
10-27-2015, 12:39 PM
starting position: High compressed ready

hits for each of the five runs
1) 3
2) 2
3) 3
4) 3
5) 0

aggregate score: 10/45

20/45 last week and 10/45 this week damn

Mike

Range1
10-29-2015, 07:40 PM
Fired this drill on two separate occasions at the local indoor range. First time was so bad I did not even record it. This time I used a Glock 19 Gen 4 and an M&P 9 Pro Series Full Size. Both from the ready. I only recorded hits per run for the first series with the Glock 19. They are listed below. Started to have timer difficulties so I put it away. I only counted total hits for the last 2 series with the M&P which were 22/45 and 25/45 not using the timer just shooting in a “careful hurry”. The hits with the Glock on the timer were:
Run 1- 2/9 with 6 shots under par
Run 2- 1/9 with 4 shots under par
Run 3- 4/9 with none under par
Run 4- 3/9 with 3 under par
Run 5- 5/9 with 3 under par
Aggregate score- 15/45

Observations, I can’t shoot for crap, can’t wait to get back on the outdoor range for decent lighting and I am going to have to get a quality MRDS sooner or later.

bigslim
10-31-2015, 12:11 AM
Starting position: High compressed ready
Hits for each of the five runs:
1) 3
2) 2
3) 2
4) 2
5) 3
Aggregate score: 12/45

Another lack luster result this week.

Mike


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bigslim
11-02-2015, 02:49 PM
Starting position: High compressed ready
Hits for each of the five runs:
1) 5
2) 2
3) 2
4) 2
5) 2
Aggregate score: 13/45

One better than last week in total hits BUT this week I was able to get 2 hits on the last target within the time limit.

Mike

JHC
11-02-2015, 04:31 PM
I tried this again from high ready instead holstered. Easier to make time of course. NO easier to make hits. This one flat owns me.