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voodoo_man
09-30-2015, 07:45 AM
Hey all,

aboveandbeyond referred me over here. I'm the maker of the MkIII blades. I appreciate all the interest and conversation and like the idea of a group buy. Here's what I was thinking.

10 people for 10% off
15 people for 15%
20 people for 20%


After that I'd be cool with a permanent 10% discount as thanks for the bulk buy. If people have any questions, feel free to ask away. I'll do my best to check back here more often. I can be more reliably be reached via email at sentinelconcealmentgear@gmail.com.

Matt

From the other blade thread...

Start a list with what you want so we can get prices?

1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath

aboveandbeyond
09-30-2015, 09:55 AM
Wish I hadn't bought my package so early! I would have gone in on this!


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rjohnson4405
09-30-2015, 10:29 AM
rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath

At this rate I may as well start an account called voodoo_man and just let you pull out money if it's enough to cover whatever group buy...

voodoo_man
09-30-2015, 10:34 AM
It's worth mentioning that you guys can do group buys whenever you like, but if you plan on coordinating it through PF, you should contact a Staff member first.

You guys are good to go on this one, but everyone needs to understand pistol-forum.com is not a part of this beyond giving you guys a place to talk about it. I certainly don't expect any problems, but if things go south it's between you, the guy organizing it, and the company you are buying from. As always, caveat emptor.

That's my bad...totally slipped my mind.




At this rate I may as well start an account called voodoo_man and just let you pull out money if it's enough to cover whatever group buy...

1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath

PNWTO
09-30-2015, 06:16 PM
Not to be that guy but how is 1095 steel? Randall's used (uses) it, correct?

WobblyPossum
09-30-2015, 06:29 PM
I'm in for blade + trainer + sheath IF we can get to 20 people/20% off.

voodoo_man
09-30-2015, 06:34 PM
I'm in for blade + trainer + sheath IF we can get to 20 people/20% off.

1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath


I think as more people commit itll get there.

masternave
09-30-2015, 06:40 PM
I'm in for the blade trainer sheath package.


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SentinelGear
09-30-2015, 07:18 PM
Not to be that guy but how is 1095 steel? Randall's used (uses) it, correct?

Yes. 1095 is an incredibly tough carbon spring steel, easy to sharpen and will stay sharp. Randalls/Esee/Kabar and many others use it, its a popular choice for survival and bushcraft knives. It's not a stainless but the blades do have black oxide coating applied.

I temper the knives for a Rockwell Hardness of about 59, finding that balance between toughness and hardness.

DI1
09-30-2015, 07:49 PM
I like the design of the Sentinel blade and sheath, looks very slim and easy to conceal.
Is it possible to have more of a "hook" on the end of the handle? Would allow for better purchase when deploying in reverse grip.

I'm in for blade + sheath, especially if you can mod the grip.

SentinelGear
09-30-2015, 07:52 PM
I like the design of the Sentinel blade and sheath, looks very slim and easy to conceal.
Is it possible to have more of a "hook" on the end of the handle? Would allow for better purchase when deploying in reverse grip.

I'm in for blade + sheath, especially if you can mod the grip.

Definitely. Feedback like this is great. I've played around with this on other designs. Its no big deal to "stretch" out that last bit of the tang and hook it over.

DI1
09-30-2015, 07:56 PM
Definitely. Feedback like this is great. I've played around with this on other designs. Its no big deal to "stretch" out that last bit of the tang and hook it over.

Great! Thanks for the quick reply!

SentinelGear
09-30-2015, 08:14 PM
So I will start hashing out more details and timing over the next few days. But I'm thinking of setting a deadline, once at least 10 people are in I could accept a downpayment/reservation and begin this production run. After a set time the discount will be decided based on the number of people, I can collect the rest of the payment and finish and ship the blades.

voodoo_man
09-30-2015, 08:24 PM
Cant seem to edit my OP...prices are...


Regular is $150 for single edge blade and sheath, $165 for double edge blade and sheath

at 10 people with 10% it would be $135 and $148.50

at 15 people with 15% it would be $127.50 and $140.25

at 20 people and 20% it would be $120 and $132

Blade, trainer, and sheath normally is $200 single edge and $215 double edge

at 10 people its $180 and $193.50

at 15 it is $170 and $182.75

at 20 it is $160 and $172.

bwswanson
09-30-2015, 08:27 PM
I'll take a single edge blade and sheath. Thanks

SentinelGear
10-02-2015, 10:19 AM
MkIII training package.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12036651_725434134227556_89473842220370268_n.jpg?o h=a38aace4d63ccd2112b3ffcbbb92da6b&oe=56D328B0

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12141706_725434654227504_921945860848840434_n.jpg? oh=a8d4072900cb36af70c34c42ae6d4f83&oe=56967A3E

masternave
10-02-2015, 11:24 AM
I can't edit my OP either…*I had meant to say I want the double blade trainer sheath package. Thanks.

voodoo_man
10-02-2015, 11:28 AM
I like the design of the Sentinel blade and sheath, looks very slim and easy to conceal.
Is it possible to have more of a "hook" on the end of the handle? Would allow for better purchase when deploying in reverse grip.

I'm in for blade + sheath, especially if you can mod the grip.


I'll take a single edge blade and sheath. Thanks


I can't edit my OP either…*I had meant to say I want the double blade trainer sheath package. Thanks.




1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath

SentinelGear
10-02-2015, 07:50 PM
I will have the cut off date set at October 16, so in two weeks. Does that sound reasonable?

OnionsAndDragons
10-04-2015, 01:18 AM
How is everyone feeling on the whole hooked pommel/rat tail handle idea? I would like that, personally.

I am definitely in for 1 full package with trainer, double edged. Might go for a second for the ol' lady...

BTW, loving the group buy motivation VDM!

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voodoo_man
10-04-2015, 04:04 AM
How is everyone feeling on the whole hooked pommel/rat tail handle idea? I would like that, personally.

I am definitely in for 1 full package with trainer, double edged. Might go for a second for the ol' lady...

BTW, loving the group buy motivation VDM!

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath
7. Onionsanddragons - double edge + trainer + sheath

Thanks, id like to get people hooked up with good equipment, this blade seems like itll fit a niche of a few things for most people. Hopefully more people will jump on it.

SentinelGear
10-04-2015, 09:03 AM
The more hooked butt end will be a go. I can't think of any negatives personally.

SentinelGear
10-04-2015, 11:35 AM
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12118856_726120220825614_2898931310005775368_n.jpg ?oh=ee2a5655ef0a51b2e69300c7247bd58b&oe=5686D7BF

808sheriff
10-04-2015, 12:42 PM
I'm in for a live blade+ sheath

voodoo_man
10-04-2015, 12:59 PM
I'm in for a live blade+ sheath1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath
7. Onionsanddragons - double edge + trainer + sheath
8. 808sheriff - blade + sheath

tamabrand
10-04-2015, 01:34 PM
In for blade+trainer+sheath.

Jay585
10-04-2015, 02:26 PM
I'm in. I'd like the Mk III trio of blade, holster, drone.

Much obliged!

hallnh727
10-04-2015, 02:39 PM
I'm in for a double edge blade + sheath

TDA
10-04-2015, 10:48 PM
I'd like a single edge blade + trainer + sheath.

voodoo_man
10-05-2015, 03:53 AM
In for blade+trainer+sheath.


I'm in. I'd like the Mk III trio of blade, holster, drone.

Much obliged!


I'm in for a double edge blade + sheath


I'd like a single edge blade + trainer + sheath.

1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath
7. Onionsanddragons - double edge + trainer + sheath
8. 808sheriff - blade + sheath
9. Tamabrand - blade + trainer + sheath
10. Jay585 - blade + trainer + sheath
11. Hallnh727 - double edge blade + sheath
12. Tda - blade + trainer + sheath

masternave
10-05-2015, 07:51 AM
I love the idea of the extra hook/rat-style handle. Go for it.


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aboveandbeyond
10-05-2015, 01:14 PM
Just got MkIII in the mail today here are some pics!

There are a few changes I would like to see.
Enlarged "hook" on the pummel like many have asked for.
Thinner kydex for even more lo-pro.
Have a secondary attachment point for the sheath clip. It tends to swing a bit while I carry at the 10 o'clock position. But a 2 inch piece of inner tube will fix it.
I would like to switch the grind to convex on both sides.
Extend the micarta a bit more towards the edge.

These are just personal preferences of mine. This does not at all, take away from the blade! For $200, I consider this a bargain. With time, Matt's work will only get better and refined.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions you guys have!



http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/getoffthex/Blades/C8377ACE-24A1-41E1-BF5F-8FCDA6F1E717.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/getoffthex/media/Blades/C8377ACE-24A1-41E1-BF5F-8FCDA6F1E717.jpg.html)

For those that were curious about the size in comparison to the Rat
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/getoffthex/Blades/E824C0BA-03D6-4620-9BF5-A507CC02747A.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/getoffthex/media/Blades/E824C0BA-03D6-4620-9BF5-A507CC02747A.jpg.html)

For hand reference
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/getoffthex/Blades/5DCDD7F0-98DE-4BEC-8A00-1F355460C9DA.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/getoffthex/media/Blades/5DCDD7F0-98DE-4BEC-8A00-1F355460C9DA.jpg.html)

voodoo_man
10-05-2015, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the pix. If figured it was very similar to the rat in size but wow its pretty close.

ReverendMeat
10-05-2015, 01:54 PM
Aboveandbeyond, could you show a picture of how you carry it? I read 10:00, but do you pull with your left or right hand? Never carried a fixed blade knife so these are probably super-noob questions.

SouthNarc
10-05-2015, 02:20 PM
Any pics of the double edged variant?

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 02:51 PM
Any pics of the double edged variant?



Here you go:

3977

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Just got MkIII in the mail today here are some pics!

There are a few changes I would like to see.
Enlarged "hook" on the pummel like many have asked for.
Thinner kydex for even more lo-pro.
Have a secondary attachment point for the sheath clip. It tends to swing a bit while I carry at the 10 o'clock position. But a 2 inch piece of inner tube will fix it.
I would like to switch the grind to convex on both sides.
Extend the micarta a bit more towards the edge.

These are just personal preferences of mine. This does not at all, take away from the blade! For $200, I consider this a bargain. With time, Matt's work will only get better and refined.



Thanks for the feedback, very much appreciated. Definitely taking a lot of this into consideration. Most specifically the hooked tang and the clip. For now I'm shipping out with some bike inner tube which helps with that problem. I might investigate adding a second hole into the clip or another option. I wanted the clips to be hardware removeable in the event of breakage or if someone preferred something like soft loops.

As far as kydex thickness. I go back and forth. Having worked with kydex a lot over the years I have found that the thinner grade loses its retention faster, and it holster making would break from time to time. I found the thicker grade stuff adds only a negligible amount of thickness for a substantial increase in durability. The same reason why I chose thicker rivets.

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 05:21 PM
Aboveandbeyond, could you show a picture of how you carry it? I read 10:00, but do you pull with your left or right hand? Never carried a fixed blade knife so these are probably super-noob questions.



They can be carried anywhere on the belt line. Location is a matter of personal preference, however i recommend the draw be set up for reverse grip, and in your non dominant hand if augmenting a firearm, and reverse grip in dominant hand if no firearm is carried.

SouthNarc
10-05-2015, 05:31 PM
I'd buy a double edged if it'll help knock the price down for the group.

SAWBONES
10-05-2015, 06:25 PM
I'd like more of a "hook" on the pommel end too, and some more Micarta below the blade on the sharp side, since I prefer at least a bit of a guard.

I'm in for a single edge and sheath (left-handed preferred, but I'm adaptable ;)).

Eyesquared
10-05-2015, 06:41 PM
I'd be in for a single edged blade + trainer + sheath.

aboveandbeyond
10-05-2015, 06:42 PM
Aboveandbeyond, could you show a picture of how you carry it? I read 10:00, but do you pull with your left or right hand? Never carried a fixed blade knife so these are probably super-noob questions.

Of course man! Here you go! I typically carry with the edge forward at my support side.

Here's I carry a blade rigs/tracker dan sheath with my Joe Watson magni.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/05/942a10879fad9fffcbd0f389cf80e038.jpg

Sentinel Gear MKIII.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/05/747c0ec887190aa319aa754916262f8e.jpg

What "could" potentially occur. Notice the
orientation of the clip. The sheath may pivot a little with the single attachment point. Inner tube will rectify this easily.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/05/4a394ef9b702883cfad77dfb198fc381.jpg


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SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 06:48 PM
Yes. I carry with the inner tube myself. Going forward the sheaths ship with some.

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 06:51 PM
How many are we up to right now? Close to 15 it seems? I could potentially accept down payments and get production started with balance due on closing date.

aboveandbeyond
10-05-2015, 06:55 PM
Thanks for the feedback, very much appreciated. Definitely taking a lot of this into consideration. Most specifically the hooked tang and the clip. For now I'm shipping out with some bike inner tube which helps with that problem. I might investigate adding a second hole into the clip or another option. I wanted the clips to be hardware removeable in the event of breakage or if someone preferred something like soft loops.

As far as kydex thickness. I go back and forth. Having worked with kydex a lot over the years I have found that the thinner grade loses its retention faster, and it holster making would break from time to time. I found the thicker grade stuff adds only a negligible amount of thickness for a substantial increase in durability. The same reason why I chose thicker rivets.

Totally makes sense. The sheath is very modular in itself.

I really like the multiple options. The end user can move the clip or loop as high or as low as they want.

Awesome so far Sentinel Gear. Can't wait to see you fine tune the whole package!


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SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 07:07 PM
Totally makes sense. The sheath is very modular in itself.

I really like the multiple options. The end user can move the clip or loop as high or as low as they want.

Awesome so far Sentinel Gear. Can't wait to see you fine tune the whole package!


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Thank you!

EPF
10-05-2015, 10:18 PM
Does the trainer fit into the sheath?

Thanks

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 10:31 PM
Does the trainer fit into the sheath?

Thanks

Yes it does.

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 10:37 PM
Alright, some have asked about the downpayment situation. I'm not going to require it, but if enough of you make a downpayment at $80 (with balance due two days after the group buy closes) I can get started on production and get some blades out to you faster. PM me for details.

Sigfan26
10-05-2015, 11:42 PM
Yes. 1095 is an incredibly tough carbon spring steel, easy to sharpen and will stay sharp. Randalls/Esee/Kabar and many others use it, its a popular choice for survival and bushcraft knives. It's not a stainless but the blades do have black oxide coating applied.

I temper the knives for a Rockwell Hardness of about 59, finding that balance between toughness and hardness.

Not a part of the group buy. But, would you be willing to do one in a stainless steel?

SentinelGear
10-05-2015, 11:44 PM
I can, but the price would go up another $30 or so, and the wait time would be longer. My shop isn't equipped to heat treat all the super complex stainless steels so I would be outsourcing it, and finding another finish option.

voodoo_man
10-06-2015, 04:08 AM
I'd buy a double edged if it'll help knock the price down for the group.


I'd be in for a single edged blade + trainer + sheath.1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath
7. Onionsanddragons - double edge + trainer + sheath
8. 808sheriff - blade + sheath
9. Tamabrand - blade + trainer + sheath
10. Jay585 - blade + trainer + sheath
11. Hallnh727 - double edge blade + sheath
12. Tda - blade + trainer + sheath
13. Southnarc - double edge + sheath
14. Sirtainly - blade + trainer + sheath

SentinelGear
10-06-2015, 09:06 AM
At this point I will go ahead and honor the 15% discount. 6 more to get to 20.

voodoo_man
10-06-2015, 09:25 AM
At this point I will go ahead and honor the 15% discount. 6 more to get to 20.

Very generous of you.

Common guys ya'll know you want one

Sadmin
10-06-2015, 09:42 AM
Well hell.. 2 is 1 right?

Put me down for:

Persian/Double edge/trainer/sheath


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Sadmin
10-06-2015, 11:30 AM
I guess I should have asked first if the Persian profile was an option -


Well hell.. 2 is 1 right?

Put me down for:

Persian/Double edge/trainer/sheath


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voodoo_man
10-06-2015, 12:20 PM
Well hell.. 2 is 1 right?

Put me down for:

Persian/Double edge/trainer/sheath


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So you want two blades?

Wondering Beard
10-06-2015, 01:15 PM
I guess I should have asked first if the Persian profile was an option -

What's the Persian profile? are there any pics?

Sadmin
10-06-2015, 01:19 PM
No, sorry for confusion. I already had one on the way before the thread started.


So you want two blades?




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voodoo_man
10-06-2015, 02:55 PM
No, sorry for confusion. I already had one on the way before the thread started.






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Ok so you want another one?

Sadmin
10-06-2015, 03:32 PM
Yes- (1) Persian profile (if available) - double edge - sheath - trainer.


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SentinelGear
10-06-2015, 05:49 PM
Yes- (1) Persian profile (if available) - double edge - sheath - trainer.


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Sadmin I can def make you another with a Persian blade. Thanks.

MooseKnuckle207
10-06-2015, 08:31 PM
I'm in for a MkIII with single edge and sheath. Brown and black or green g10 grip if possible. Thanks for the early access and discount.

Dave J
10-07-2015, 11:59 AM
Aw hell, it's only money...put me down for a single edge blade, sheath, and trainer.

voodoo_man
10-07-2015, 12:55 PM
Yes- (1) Persian profile (if available) - double edge - sheath - trainer.


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I'm in for a MkIII with single edge and sheath. Brown and black or green g10 grip if possible. Thanks for the early access and discount.


Aw hell, it's only money...put me down for a single edge blade, sheath, and trainer.

1. Voodoo - blade + trainer + sheath
2. rjohnson4405 - blade + trainer + sheath
3. Danm - blade + trainer + sheath
4. DI1 - blade + sheath
5. bwswanson - blade + sheath
6. masternave - doublesided blade + trainer + sheath
7. Onionsanddragons - double edge + trainer + sheath
8. 808sheriff - blade + sheath
9. Tamabrand - blade + trainer + sheath
10. Jay585 - blade + trainer + sheath
11. Hallnh727 - double edge blade + sheath
12. Tda - blade + trainer + sheath
13. Southnarc - double edge + sheath
14. Sirtainly - blade + trainer + sheath
15. Persian profile (if available) - double edge - sheath - trainer.
16. Mooseknuckle207 - blade (g10 grips) + sheath
17. Davej - blade + sheath + trainer

zml342
10-07-2015, 02:05 PM
Add me on for a blade + sheath + trainer

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 03:52 PM
Ok that is 18. So we can just call it 20, more people can keep jumping in.

I can now start accepting payments in full and get production started. To make this easy on me, I just made a coupon code for the site. "pfgb20"
The coupon is good starting now and will expire on the 16th.

If you paid a downpayment, send me an email at sentinelconcealmentgear@gmail.com and I will invoice you the balance.

All blades will be made with black and grey g10, and a grey kydex sheath. The sheaths are ambi so no need for RH/LH. I am estimating production at around 4 weeks, blades will ship out at the same time. I will try to keep folks updated.

If I'm forgetting anything please let me know.

People have inquired about the persians, for now they are a custom order and not part of the group buy. Sadmin, I will def make you one as you already have a Mk3 on its way. Just put "persian" in the special instructions box.

Thank you all for your support.

-Matt

SouthNarc
10-07-2015, 03:59 PM
So I just paid and there's no place to put the coupon code in.

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 04:08 PM
So I just paid and there's no place to put the coupon code in.

Let me check that and refund you.

SouthNarc
10-07-2015, 04:11 PM
Let me check that and refund you.

Not a biggie. Just put it towards the cause dude.

miller_man
10-07-2015, 05:47 PM
Been needing a good fixed blade/sheath setup . . .put me down for a single edge blade, sheath, and trainer.

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 06:01 PM
Been needing a good fixed blade/sheath setup . . .put me down for a single edge blade, sheath, and trainer.

You can go ahead and order at

www.sentinelconcealmentgear.com

Discount code is pfgb20.

Thanks!

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 06:01 PM
Not a biggie. Just put it towards the cause dude.

Thanks man, appreciated.

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 06:02 PM
PF just purchased a set (live blade, trainer, sheath) for a future giveaway. :cool:

Thanks Tom. Looking forward to working with you all.

DI1
10-07-2015, 08:55 PM
You can go ahead and order at

www.sentinelconcealmentgear.com

Discount code is pfgb20.

Thanks!

Will these be with the new curved "rat tail" grip?
Sending payment now for double edged blade and sheath.

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 08:58 PM
Will these be with the new curved "rat tail" grip?
Sending payment now for double edged blade and sheath.

Yes

DI1
10-07-2015, 08:59 PM
Yes

Great! Thanks!
Payment sent.

I29alpha
10-07-2015, 09:01 PM
I'm in for single edge blade and sheath.

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 09:09 PM
I'm in for single edge blade and sheath.

Awesome. Ordering and coupon are live on the site.

I29alpha
10-07-2015, 09:15 PM
Order placed. Payment sent. Thanks!

SentinelGear
10-07-2015, 09:17 PM
Order placed. Payment sent. Thanks!


Received, thank you!

voodoo_man
10-08-2015, 05:48 AM
Ordered.


Thanks again for doing this!

rjohnson4405
10-08-2015, 07:49 AM
Ordered.

Thanks Sentinel and voodoo_man!

WobblyPossum
10-08-2015, 09:05 AM
Order placed! Thanks for everyone who made this happen!

Eyesquared
10-08-2015, 10:09 AM
Ordered.

Thanks!

SAWBONES
10-08-2015, 10:25 AM
Single edge blade and sheath ordered and paid, thanks SentinelGear!

SentinelGear
10-08-2015, 10:52 AM
Thank you everyone.

zml342
10-08-2015, 12:28 PM
Order placed. Thanks for doing this!

SentinelGear
10-09-2015, 07:23 PM
4013

With hooked butt end, new blackwash finish.

masternave
10-09-2015, 07:32 PM
Now that there… is pretty. I'm really excited now.


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SentinelGear
10-09-2015, 07:37 PM
Now that there… is pretty. I'm really excited now.


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Thank you. This will the standard or Mod 2 version. Been messing with finishes and I really like the "blackwash." Hooked end works as it should. I'll put up clearer pictures tomorrow hopefully.

DI1
10-09-2015, 08:14 PM
4013

With hooked butt end, new blackwash finish.

Looks great! Can't wait to get mine!

miller_man
10-09-2015, 08:15 PM
Looks awesome. Order placed, thanks.

SentinelGear
10-09-2015, 08:16 PM
Looks awesome. Order placed, thanks.

Thank you!

I29alpha
10-10-2015, 12:03 AM
Looks great!! Looking forward to it.

SentinelGear
10-10-2015, 10:56 AM
4022


Better pictures coming in.

voodoo_man
10-10-2015, 12:56 PM
4022


Better pictures coming in.

Yep..when I get my blade ;)

SentinelGear
10-10-2015, 12:57 PM
4023

4024

Few more.

hallnh727
10-10-2015, 01:08 PM
order placed. cannot wait to get it. thanks again for the great deal.

DI1
10-10-2015, 01:52 PM
Really like the jimping on the back and the contour!

tamabrand
10-10-2015, 05:42 PM
Ordered. Thanks!

WobblyPossum
10-10-2015, 05:45 PM
After the code expires, would you mind posting the total number of blades ordered? I'm just curious.

WobblyPossum
10-10-2015, 06:08 PM
When you checkout, there's an "Add Coupon" option underneath the subtotal.

SentinelGear
10-10-2015, 11:23 PM
After the code expires, would you mind posting the total number of blades ordered? I'm just curious.

No problem.

Cowtown44
10-13-2015, 10:22 PM
In for live, trainer and sheath.

UNK
10-15-2015, 06:18 AM
Blade sheath and trainer ordered

SentinelGear
10-15-2015, 03:24 PM
Thanks everyone, tomorrow is the last day for group buy pricing.

UNK
10-15-2015, 05:56 PM
Thank you and Vodoo_Man.
Is there an estimated ship date?


Thanks everyone, tomorrow is the last day for group buy pricing.

voodoo_man
10-15-2015, 06:28 PM
Thank you and Vodoo_Man.
Is there an estimated ship date?

No need to thank me.

I saw a trend and started a thread, that's all, everyone who bought a blade made this happen and thanks should be to SentinelGear for giving us a discount.

SentinelGear
10-16-2015, 06:07 AM
Ship date is probably 3-4 weeks.

aboveandbeyond
10-21-2015, 11:05 AM
Just curious, how many did you end up selling through the group buy?

SentinelGear
10-30-2015, 09:15 PM
Just curious, how many did you end up selling through the group buy?

30 orders. You guys are ridiculous!

Update. So there was a pretty huge response from here and elsewhere and I am working hard on getting blades finished. I have a first batch of 12 or so that close to completion so we can hopefully start getting these out soon. I am bringing on some extra help in the shop next week to try to speed it up.

And those of you with questions I am getting caught up on emails tonite/tomorrow. Thanks for your patience.

OnionsAndDragons
10-31-2015, 01:31 AM
Awesome, man!


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rjohnson4405
11-04-2015, 11:14 AM
I moved in between signing up for the group buy and now.

Turns out, I can only carry a fixed blade under 3" in my county. Emailed Sentinel and they're doing a 2.9" blade for me with no fuss!

OnionsAndDragons
11-04-2015, 12:21 PM
And that's why custom is awesome!


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CR78
11-16-2015, 01:38 PM
Well, my dumb ass missed out on the group buy...anyone want to ask about a group buy for the new Persian Blade?

SouthNarc
11-16-2015, 03:08 PM
Ship date is probably 3-4 weeks.

We're about at the four week mark. Any updates?

voodoo_man
11-16-2015, 04:03 PM
I sent an email about two weeks back no answer, I did not get a blade yet, anyone else?

UNK
11-16-2015, 06:48 PM
Been through this several times with other people. If he wont respond then unleash the locals on him.


I sent an email about two weeks back no answer, I did not get a blade yet, anyone else?

DI1
11-16-2015, 07:57 PM
I've corresponded with him via email, pm.
Have not received the blade as of yet.
Willing to wait another week or two.

SentinelGear
11-16-2015, 08:47 PM
Hey all

Bare with me, things are taking longer than expected, and I lost some time to moving my shop. Most should be shipping through the week however. Best way to contact me is email, if you don't hear from me with a few days please try again.

I try my best to get things out in a timely manner, but being a one man show and with literally everything being hand done, I can only really do a best guess. But things are finishing up and will be shipping definitely.
Matt

SentinelGear
11-16-2015, 08:49 PM
Been through this several times with other people. If he wont respond then unleash the locals on him.

I've been responding and don't mean to miss an email. No need to worry. Again, I do write back. Sometimes an email gets missed.

Shellback
11-16-2015, 11:45 PM
Well, my dumb ass missed out on the group buy...

Me too. Looks like a solid blade at a good price.

SentinelGear
11-17-2015, 04:07 PM
Me too. Looks like a solid blade at a good price.

As promised, PF has a permanent 10% discount code. PM me if interested and I can square you away.

Shellback
11-17-2015, 08:03 PM
As promised, PF has a permanent 10% discount code. PM me if interested and I can square you away.

Very generous of you. Thanks!

voodoo_man
11-27-2015, 04:06 PM
Got my order in, pix to come.

Quick question, i thought this was going to have a rat tail? Mine does not, and i did not know if i was supposed to add that to instructions.

Also the trainer wrap came apart, i assume during shipment. No bigge ill put it back in and burn the ends.

SouthNarc
11-27-2015, 06:50 PM
No tail on mine either.

UNK
11-27-2015, 08:24 PM
Does it look like this?

4013

With hooked butt end, new blackwash finish.


Got my order in, pix to come.

Quick question, i thought this was going to have a rat tail? Mine does not, and i did not know if i was supposed to add that to instructions.

Also the trainer wrap came apart, i assume during shipment. No bigge ill put it back in and burn the ends.


No tail on mine either.

Sadmin
11-27-2015, 08:27 PM
That is how mine looks as well. When you say tail, are you referring to a portion of the tang extending past the scales, like a pommel? Only asking since a rat tail tang would be a negative compared to what is offered


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UNK
11-27-2015, 08:36 PM
I believe this will explain what they are talking about.


Just got MkIII in the mail today here are some pics!

There are a few changes I would like to see.
Enlarged "hook" on the pummel like many have asked for.
Thinner kydex for even more lo-pro.
Have a secondary attachment point for the sheath clip. It tends to swing a bit while I carry at the 10 o'clock position. But a 2 inch piece of inner tube will fix it.
I would like to switch the grind to convex on both sides.
Extend the micarta a bit more towards the edge.

These are just personal preferences of mine. This does not at all, take away from the blade! For $200, I consider this a bargain. With time, Matt's work will only get better and refined.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions you guys have!





For those that were curious about the size in comparison to the Rat
http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/getoffthex/Blades/E824C0BA-03D6-4620-9BF5-A507CC02747A.jpg (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/getoffthex/media/Blades/E824C0BA-03D6-4620-9BF5-A507CC02747A.jpg.html)

[QUOTE=Sadmin;376209]That is how mine looks as well. When you say tail, are you referring to a portion of the tang extending past the scales, like a pommel? Only asking since a rat tail tang would be a negative compared to what is offered


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Sadmin
11-27-2015, 08:51 PM
Oh gotcha- forgot about that post. Thanks -


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SouthNarc
11-27-2015, 08:52 PM
Yup. I thought these were going to be hooked more like the Rat.

UNK
11-27-2015, 08:58 PM
The pic shows it more hooked than the original but less than the rat. What are your first impressions?


Yup. I thought these were going to be hooked more like the Rat.

SouthNarc
11-27-2015, 09:02 PM
The pic shows it more hooked than the original but less than the rat. What are your first impressions?

The handle is to narrow and thin for me personally.

SLG
11-27-2015, 11:00 PM
The handle is to narrow and thin for me personally.

Well, then I doubt I'll like it, since we seem to favor very similar blades. Too bad.

UNK
11-28-2015, 02:10 PM
Looking forward to those pics and a review.


Got my order in, pix to come.

Quick question, i thought this was going to have a rat tail? Mine does not, and i did not know if i was supposed to add that to instructions.

Also the trainer wrap came apart, i assume during shipment. No bigge ill put it back in and burn the ends.

voodoo_man
11-28-2015, 04:58 PM
comparison shot:

http://i.imgur.com/pjOckHU.jpg

lots more here -> http://www.vdmsr.com/2015/11/sentinel-mkiii-compared-to-rat-blade.html

voodoo_man
11-28-2015, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the pictures. I wasn't aware that the MKIII had a chisel grind.

There aren't any photos of it on Sentinel's website, not that it makes a super serious difference, I was surprised it was this type of grind.

SentinelGear
12-01-2015, 09:38 AM
Hey everyone,

Just clearing a few things up. It appears folks were expecting a different grip shape and were confused as to why they didn't get it. I had posted the picture of the grip re design I was able to offer at the time on here before the group buy started, the tang has more of a "hook" than before, but not as much as the RAT blade. Within the time frame, price point, and discount I was only able to offer so much modification. Its taken me long enough to finish these as it is. My apologies if that was confusing, I had thought people had seen the pictures I had posted and everything was good to go.

That being said, I hear the end user market loud and clear and am making design changes as needed.

Again, I apologize for the delay if you are still waiting. Most of the blades have been shipped, there are a few left to ship. Between the holidays, some equipment failure, and a small supply issue, and a HUGE influx of orders separate from here, its taken me longer than I was hoping to get these out. Additionally, the first batch of 10 that I had done I was not happy with, so I re did them all. They'll end up being presents or "factory seconds" to sell at a gun show.

Thanks for your patience, please bare with me as this took off MUCH more than I was expecting and have been scrambling to get it organized.

masternave
12-01-2015, 09:53 AM
I for one have appreciated your attentiveness and responsiveness. I'm happy now, and I'll be happy when it arrives, and I'll be happy to do business with you again. I've been part of not a few group buys, and as far as my experience goes, this one is going quite smoothly. Be encouraged.


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DI1
12-01-2015, 04:04 PM
I received my blade today. Overall, I'm happy with it. It is very slim and easily concealed, palmed, etc...

SLG
12-01-2015, 07:13 PM
I received my blade today. Overall, I'm happy with it. It is very slim and easily concealed, palmed, etc...

Now I know I'm not gonna like it...:-)

DI1
12-02-2015, 08:57 AM
Now I know I'm not gonna like it...:-)

There is no subhilt 😜

EPF
12-02-2015, 11:44 AM
Just took mine out of the mail box. Quite a bit of rust on the blade and the sheath clip already. I'm no knife expert but it seems roughly made and is covered in scratches and took marks. Overall I'm underwhelmed. I ordered one on a whim after reading the thread, so I had fairly low expectations. I'll try to post some pics if I can figure it out.

EPF
12-02-2015, 12:10 PM
4741

4742

4743

Last two are after clean up. I need to play with it a bit to develop an opinion on the utility.

4744

Byron
12-02-2015, 12:22 PM
Yikes. I would personally just send that back and request a refund.

SLG
12-02-2015, 12:38 PM
Yikes. I would personally just send that back and request a refund.

This. I'm sure he'll make it right. Sometimes stuff gets through that shouldn't.

EPF
12-02-2015, 12:49 PM
Yikes. I would personally just send that back and request a refund.

Refund? I'm confused. I thought the purpose of our shared hobbies was to frivolously throw away money chasing the next best thing? :)
I know there is a giant box of gear marked "lessons learned" in my bat cave.

EPF
12-02-2015, 12:50 PM
This. I'm sure he'll make it right. Sometimes stuff gets through that shouldn't.

Yes sir. I'm sure. Just posting to compare with the groups experience.

SAWBONES
12-02-2015, 03:19 PM
I know there is a giant box of gear marked "lessons learned" in my bat cave.

Yup. Just more "experience". Was expecting a bit more of a "finished" blade myself, not to mention something other than a chisel grind, though I suppose it doesn't much matter for an item intended solely for defense.

808sheriff
12-04-2015, 07:35 PM
Also received my mk3 there was little surface rust but it cleaned right up. Has anyone had any issues with the live blade having a little wiggle while sheathed?

voodoo_man
12-04-2015, 07:41 PM
Also received my mk3 there was little surface rust but it cleaned right up. Has anyone had any issues with the live blade having a little wiggle while sheathed?

Yeah it'll wiggle, that's due to the taco design of the sheath...

DI1
12-04-2015, 08:56 PM
Mine fits tightly, no wiggle in the sheath.

Shellback
12-05-2015, 08:19 AM
My taco sheath from DSG has no wiggle room for my Clinch Pick.

TDA
12-05-2015, 09:06 PM
I have no wiggle with the live blade. The trainer has a hint of hesitation where the high points of the cord wrap hit the throat of the sheath, but really, whatever. I did have a spot of rust coming out of the USPS shipping wrap, wiped it down with a bit of slip 2000 and that's been fine.
If I were going to offer constructive criticism, I would suggest that a minute or two to deburr the edges of the clip on the sheath would not be wasted time. Maybe spray the blades with Rem Oil or something similar before handing off to USPS, since this journey will combine unknown time & unknown temperatures? The actual knife and sheath are right on target for me.

SentinelGear
12-06-2015, 11:36 PM
Hey all,

I appreciate all the feedback - positive and otherwise. There were a number of issues with this run and everything has been/is being addressed. If anyone wants anything cleaned up, I'm happy to take care of that at no charge. Best way to contact me is email, and not the forum. I'll try to address some concerns here.

Rust - I am definitely now shipping these out with a nice coat of oil on the blades to keep this from happening. Nothing left my hands with rust on it. The clips have been especially bad apparently, this is due to the fact they are actually clips that I modify and cut up in house. I'll probably Cerakote them after the mods from now on. For what its worth, I also now make blades in 154cm.

Some of the cord wraps on the trainer slip. I realized this in my own training at some point and I changed how do it. Its pretty bombproof now. If anyone wants a new cord wrap, again - get in touch and I will take care of it.

Regarding the "roughness" of some of the finish. My motivation behind these is an affordable combative fixed blade entry into a niche with otherwise much more expensive offerings. This is a 100% handmade knife. At this price point, there is really only so much finish work I can put in. I can get everything clean and pretty - but the price would be higher. At any rate, I'm addressing this with my process as well.

Finally. Yes, the blades are chisel ground. Chisel ground blades are often tougher due their geometry and extra "meat" behind the edge. This is 100% a deliberate choice on my end. This isn't a utility knife and makes a terrible one at that. The shape and size of the blade lends itself well as an effective stabbing implement and really not much else. These could be edgeless and they would still function beautifully as intended.

At any rate, designs have evolved, processes changed, lessons learned.

Thank you all once again.

SLG
12-07-2015, 05:45 PM
This post is for people thinking about buying the knife, as well as the maker, in case he wants more feedback. It is designed to be constructive, nothing else.

I need another pokey stabby thing like you know what. I have plenty of Pikal designs, a couple of which I have designed (with help and blessing from S'narc) and are available on the market. I have no financial interest in them, they were designed during a time when good Pikal knives were not easily available. That said, it is hard to pass up a new knife sometimes so I bit on the group deal. I bought the knife and sheath only, double edge.

It is reasonably priced for what it is, an inexpensive Pikal style knife. Tool marks and less than perfect finishing are to be expected at that price point and I don't object to either.

As S'narc mentioned, the handle is too thin. This is a very common problem with knives. I can make it work, but it really needs to be beefier all around.

The rat tail is fine for me, but some will certainly want more of a curve.

My copy came with some rust on the tip of the knife, as well as on the clip. Easily removed but not acceptable. I know steps are already being taken to prevent that in the future.

I don't prefer chisel grinds, as I find they offer no advantages to the non Bonsai farmer, and tend to be a cost cutting measure, as well as sometimes harder to sharpen. Again, at this price point, I don't object to the cost cutting aspect.

I suspect the tip is a bit too pointy and fragile to hold up to much stabbing, but I might be wrong. I will likely put it to the test in the next few days.

The sheath is confusing to me. I can't seem to re-insert the knife, in either direction, and feel like it is solidly in there. It also allows the knife to move around inside very freely, so that the edge contacts the inside sides of the sheath.

Finally, the knife is very dull. This, along with the sheath issue, are my biggest complaints. At any price point, there is no excuse for a maker to ship a knife that is dull. I know that the point of this knife is the point, but knives also have edges. Otherwise we could buy a cheap screwdriver for $2 and get twice as much use out of it.

As I said at the beginning, I'm not trying to beat up on the maker, or to scare away other purchasers. I would normally only tell these things to people who ask, and to the maker himself. In this case, since it was a group buy on P-F, I don't mind putting this out there for all to see. I know some of these issues are already being addressed, so it seems that the maker is both responsive and responsible. For a $150 knife, you really can't judge it like a Hartsfield. I think there is a lot of potential in the knife, as well as the maker, and look forward to seeing the evolution of the craft.

SentinelGear
12-07-2015, 11:54 PM
This post is for people thinking about buying the knife, as well as the maker, in case he wants more feedback. It is designed to be constructive, nothing else.

I need another pokey stabby thing like you know what. I have plenty of Pikal designs, a couple of which I have designed (with help and blessing from S'narc) and are available on the market. I have no financial interest in them, they were designed during a time when good Pikal knives were not easily available. That said, it is hard to pass up a new knife sometimes so I bit on the group deal. I bought the knife and sheath only, double edge.

It is reasonably priced for what it is, an inexpensive Pikal style knife. Tool marks and less than perfect finishing are to be expected at that price point and I don't object to either.

As S'narc mentioned, the handle is too thin. This is a very common problem with knives. I can make it work, but it really needs to be beefier all around.

The rat tail is fine for me, but some will certainly want more of a curve.

My copy came with some rust on the tip of the knife, as well as on the clip. Easily removed but not acceptable. I know steps are already being taken to prevent that in the future.

I don't prefer chisel grinds, as I find they offer no advantages to the non Bonsai farmer, and tend to be a cost cutting measure, as well as sometimes harder to sharpen. Again, at this price point, I don't object to the cost cutting aspect.

I suspect the tip is a bit too pointy and fragile to hold up to much stabbing, but I might be wrong. I will likely put it to the test in the next few days.

The sheath is confusing to me. I can't seem to re-insert the knife, in either direction, and feel like it is solidly in there. It also allows the knife to move around inside very freely, so that the edge contacts the inside sides of the sheath.

Finally, the knife is very dull. This, along with the sheath issue, are my biggest complaints. At any price point, there is no excuse for a maker to ship a knife that is dull. I know that the point of this knife is the point, but knives also have edges. Otherwise we could buy a cheap screwdriver for $2 and get twice as much use out of it.

As I said at the beginning, I'm not trying to beat up on the maker, or to scare away other purchasers. I would normally only tell these things to people who ask, and to the maker himself. In this case, since it was a group buy on P-F, I don't mind putting this out there for all to see. I know some of these issues are already being addressed, so it seems that the maker is both responsive and responsible. For a $150 knife, you really can't judge it like a Hartsfield. I think there is a lot of potential in the knife, as well as the maker, and look forward to seeing the evolution of the craft.

Thanks for the feedback.

At this point I can confidently say everything mentioned here has been addressed. The blade has undergone some changes and the sheath has been redesgined as well.


The blade is now wider, which allows for a broader tip. The double edge blades definitely have a thinner tip by nature of the grind. By adding some more "belly," I can leave more metal at the tip which will will toughen it up. I have some other ideas as well for making the double edge blades tougher.

The handle shape is wider, and slightly longer. I like the way this feels better myself. I find no loss of concealability or comfort and find I like the way it handles better. The "hook" on the end has been made more aggressive.

I re-designed the sheath. The old sheath was designed to allow both a training blade and live blade to fit. I wanted to make training the blade affordable so people would actually do it. I used a sheath form to make the sheaths instead molding to the actual blade, and maybe this is why the fit may be ambiguous. It seems better to just include a second sheath for training, and maybe just make it minimal to keep the cost down. I'll post a picture when I can of the new sheath design.

If a knife got to you dull it was an oversight that I can easily correct. My process in getting a blade out has changed and this shouldn't be an issue.

I still like chisel grinds but can add an option for a conventional grind if people must have it. Again, I see no advantage on a blade not meant to "work."

EPF
12-09-2015, 06:54 PM
Last two are after clean up. I need to play with it a bit to develop an opinion on the utility ]

Been carrying the knife as often as possible since it came in and I cleaned it up. Wore it on a family hike, worked out several times, sparred and rolled a few rounds with it, and other equally mundane things. I have to say that I really like the concept. My sheath was rock solid and locked up nicely through all of it, including a LOT of draws. Trainer stayed in there as well.

I think the design changes mentioned are spot on. But I have to say again that the knife and sheath package really hits a sweet spot for me when it comes to truly concealing a fixed blade and still being comfortable. It carried very well. If the grip and blade durability issues are worked out, this will be a sweet setup for concealment.

I now see what the Sayoc guys were going for with the rat. Gives a lot of capability in a concealable package.

This knife won't replace my other knives, but I think the "mark 3" has a lot of potential.

voodoo_man
12-09-2015, 07:13 PM
Been carrying the knife as often as possible since it came in and I cleaned it up. Wore it on a family hike, worked out several times, sparred and rolled a few rounds with it, and other equally mundane things. I have to say that I really like the concept. My sheath was rock solid and locked up nicely through all of it, including a LOT of draws. Trainer stayed in there as well.

I think the design changes mentioned are spot on. But I have to say again that the knife and sheath package really hits a sweet spot for me when it comes to truly concealing a fixed blade and still being comfortable. It carried very well. If the grip and blade durability issues are worked out, this will be a sweet setup for concealment.

I now see what the Sayoc guys were going for with the rat. Gives a lot of capability in a concealable package.

This knife won't replace my other knives, but I think the "mark 3" has a lot of potential.

Group buy for the rat up right now....;)

I29alpha
12-26-2015, 03:48 PM
Did everyone get their blades?

SLG
01-20-2016, 09:26 PM
I just received the next version of the knife yesterday. A big improvement over the first one in terms of design. Some pics and then a little more detail.556855695570

Top pic shows the original with the new one. New one on top.

Second pic shows a small Halloran Pikal in the middle. This is a shorter version of the Pikal that I designed and that Tom Halloran makes. Note how wide and beefy the handle appears compared to the other two. I prefer a solid grip on the knife. Please note that I stole heavily from Southnarc's designs, and spoke to him before I went ahead with the knife.

Third pic shows a prototype pikal that I designed before the Halloran and was made by another maker. Note that though the grip shape is pretty different, it is also big and beefy.

Anyway, this new knife from Sentinel is much better. Bigger, beefier handle, better hand stop, better rat tail, much better sheath. No rust when it arrived, but it still isn't as sharp as it should be. Fit and finish is a little worse than the original knife, but again, well within what i would consider acceptable for a $150 knife.

The one problem for me is that the blade is on the wrong side.:-) Not sure what I'll do about that at this point, but I have been carrying it for the past two days, so something will need to happen. Overall, I do like it. A few small changes and it would be exactly what I prefer. It carries well, surprisingly so, because as it comes from the maker, the sheath rides pretty high. Makes for both a more difficult draw as well as an easier draw. I like it.

I29alpha
01-22-2016, 06:32 PM
New one looks great. Still waiting for my first one to come from the group buy.

SLG
01-22-2016, 07:27 PM
New one looks great. Still waiting for my first one to come from the group buy.

Seriously? Have you contacted him? Let us know what happens. I'll send you mine if you don't get yours.

I29alpha
01-22-2016, 07:54 PM
Very generous of you. I have been in contact with him and we are trying to work it out. He says the tracking said it was delivered but I haven't seen anything yet. I'm hoping it didn't get snatched from the porch (small town, house set way back from the road). We've exchanged a few emails but I haven't heard back from him since last week. I'm sure it'll all end well. Thank you very much for the offer as well, greatly appreciated.

SentinelGear
01-24-2016, 06:35 PM
I just received the next version of the knife yesterday. A big improvement over the first one in terms of design. Some pics and then a little more detail.556855695570

Top pic shows the original with the new one. New one on top.

Second pic shows a small Halloran Pikal in the middle. This is a shorter version of the Pikal that I designed and that Tom Halloran makes. Note how wide and beefy the handle appears compared to the other two. I prefer a solid grip on the knife. Please note that I stole heavily from Southnarc's designs, and spoke to him before I went ahead with the knife.

Third pic shows a prototype pikal that I designed before the Halloran and was made by another maker. Note that though the grip shape is pretty different, it is also big and beefy.

Anyway, this new knife from Sentinel is much better. Bigger, beefier handle, better hand stop, better rat tail, much better sheath. No rust when it arrived, but it still isn't as sharp as it should be. Fit and finish is a little worse than the original knife, but again, well within what i would consider acceptable for a $150 knife.

The one problem for me is that the blade is on the wrong side.:-) Not sure what I'll do about that at this point, but I have been carrying it for the past two days, so something will need to happen. Overall, I do like it. A few small changes and it would be exactly what I prefer. It carries well, surprisingly so, because as it comes from the maker, the sheath rides pretty high. Makes for both a more difficult draw as well as an easier draw. I like it.

Thanks for writing this - glad you like this one better. When you say the blade is on the wrong side, are you referring to the chisel grind being left sided, or that it isn't a pkal blade? Additionally, you an adjust the height of the clip with the other rivet holes. I'm not sure if you tried that to adjust the ride height. I like mine to run a little high, but there should be room to adjust.

Let

DI1
01-24-2016, 07:39 PM
Matt, can you please reply to my PM and email that I sent.

Thank you.

SLG
01-24-2016, 11:34 PM
Thanks for writing this - glad you like this one better. When you say the blade is on the wrong side, are you referring to the chisel grind being left sided, or that it isn't a pkal blade? Additionally, you an adjust the height of the clip with the other rivet holes. I'm not sure if you tried that to adjust the ride height. I like mine to run a little high, but there should be room to adjust.

Let

I meant "wrong" in that it isn't a pikal. As far as the height, as I said, I thought it was too high but it works well and I like it. I certainly saw the adjustability of it, I just don't actually want to change the height at this point. I'm on the road, but will respond to your email when I get a few more minutes.