Ameriglo Night Sight Preferences

[Cool Breeze]

Looking to get night sights on my Glock. I currently have all black front and all black rear sights from Ameriglo and I do like them a lot but I just want a night capability. Having no experience with night sights, I was wondering if you could advise.

My current front sight is very thin (.090) and I love it for precision fire especially at distance. So I was thinking I should get the TCAP (.125) instead of the proglo (.140). Here are my questions:

1) Is getting the tcap worth the tradeoff in brightness (b/c it has a smaller tritium module) for precision vs. the regular brightness of the proglo?

2) For a front sight - is the orange paint better than the yellow paint - I spoke with Ameriglo and he said the orange is better seen in daylight vs the yellow but at low light the yellow is seen better over the orange. TCAPs in orange will be here in 2 to 3 weeks.

3) If the Tcaps are worth it for precision - it is going to be dimmer than traditional green rears because of the smaller tritium vial - so for rears I want pro operators - but should I get the yellow instead of the green because the yellows are dimmer leaving the smaller tcap brighter up front. I'm thinking having brighter rears vs. the front would be a weird sight picture.

4) If you have a regular proglow sight - do you prefer green front and yellow rears or all green for both front and rear?

[HCM]

To answer at least part of your question, regarding the orange vs the yellow for the front site paint:

Traffic safety studies have shown that orange generally shows up better in daylight and the line green/yellow shows up better in low light or darkness. However this is for people with normal vision. If you are a male with red green colorblindness then the line green/yellow will show up better for you in all conditions.

For myself I prefer the orange painted front sites. My reasoning is The paint on the front site is for rapid acquisition in daylight and orange shows up better for me in daylight.

As for the smaller tritium vial of the TCAP remember the CAP sight was designed to be used with a single tritium Bar at the bottom of the rear sight notch - if you pair it with a 2 dot rear it will be a compromise.

I'm eagerly awaiting the orange TCAP - I would like to try it with the defoor rear.

[Up1911Fan]

I have TCAP's on 6 Glock's and love them, i'd go that route.

[GRV]

Same boat as HCM.

I've been waiting for an orange TCAP for a while, and will likely pair it with my Defoor rear when it arrives. I originally wanted the orange TCAP with a regular Operator rear in yellow (basically Defoor rear with no-outline vials added), but the orange TCAP has been vaporware and even the vanilla yellow Operator rear was sold out and is now MIA from the site. I definitely prefer yellow rear tritium if I run a tritium rear.

Compared to the Trijicon HD front, I liked the thinner TCAP much better. Right now, I'm liking my even thinner Defoors a lot.

I will add to the orange > yellow sentiment. I wanted to like the yellow TCAP, I really did. I didn't want orange. But man was I wrong. Uncharged, it often looks like beige, and given how much of the sight is covered, this leads to serious washout for me on pale surfaces.

[OnionsAndDragons]

I don't much care for tritium in the rear sight. I am okay with it if the rear trit is far less prominent than the front. Otherwise it just seems cluttered to me.

I like the TCAP sight. It is a very good compromise between accuracy and efficiency in front sight pick up.

Since you like black on black, I would also suggest looking into Dawson or 10-8 set ups. They both have some good options in black/black with unobtrusive tritium vial front posts. The new Defoor sights from Ameriglo might also be worth a look.

[Gray222]

http://www.vdmsr.com/2015/03/ameriglo-cap-defoor-pro-i-dot-glock.html

Just leave that there.

[tmoore912]

For those purchasing Ameriglo sights soon, I have a discount code for them that they gave us at our state's gun rights convention last weekend. Ameriglo said it was good to share on social media if we wanted.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii218/tmoore912/Smileys/327e5b8f-e38c-4627-85db-73060132e017.jpg (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/tmoore912/media/Smileys/327e5b8f-e38c-4627-85db-73060132e017.jpg.html)

[Cool Breeze]

tmoore912 - TOTAL SCORE - Thanks. I need TCAPS in orange to come out before that! LOL

Thanks all for your opinions so far - Looking forward to hearing more from everyone else if they care to share.

[fwrun]

I tried out the TCAPs for a few thousand rounds, but didn't like how it washed out. I've since gone to the regular CAPs and have been very pleased. The larger tritium vial has been mo betta too. It's not something I even realized I was missing out on until I went to the standard orange CAP, but the TCAP is SUBSTANTIALLY dimmer than the CAP front. I foresee TCAP paired with a regular rear tritium sight to be problematic due to this.

Regarding the orange TCAP, it's been "just around the corner" for over a year and a half now, so I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you...

[eb07]

I tried out the TCAPs for a few thousand rounds, but didn't like how it washed out. I've since gone to the regular CAPs and have been very pleased. The larger tritium vial has been mo betta too. It's not something I even realized I was missing out on until I went to the standard orange CAP, but the TCAP is SUBSTANTIALLY dimmer than the CAP front. I foresee TCAP paired with a regular rear tritium sight to be problematic due to this.

Regarding the orange TCAP, it's been "just around the corner" for over a year and a half now, so I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you...


I also like the regular CAP's to the TCAPS for the same reason.

[Sasage]

I was running a yellow tcap on my fiance's G26 and a Pro Glo Orange on my 26. I prefer the orange and have it paired with a GL-409 which is a .165 rear black notch.

The Pro Glo and the 409 give it almost the same dimensions as a Trijicon set.

A fiber beats them both outside for brightness.

[psalms144.1]

For me, my personal favorite has evolved to standard CAP Yellow front, Operator yellow-lamp rears. That's the combo on my G19 (primary carry). My G26 has same front with yellow CAP rear, G23 has Orange standard CAP front and Orange CAP rear, G30S has TCAP Yellow front and Operator (yellow lamp) rear.

For me, the yellow is just plain easier to pick up all the time. The Orange isn't nearly as "bright" and tends to get "dingy" over time. I have no problem with precision using the Standard CAP fronts, and, the TCAPs actually seem to slow me down at distance as I have so much more "light" to balance on either side.

While shooting another agency's Gen4 G17, I was easily able to hit 100 yard steel (8" circle) with Trijicon HDs, and they're WAY wider than the standard CAP - in fact they completely covered the target at 100 yards...

[MGW]

I've been running the all black Defoor sights for about 18 months on my EDC 19. I've been contemplating adding a tritium set up myself but have been dragging my feet because I really like the Defoors in good lighting.

A friend of mine showed up the other day with Defoor rears and an Ameriglo .125 tritium front on a 17. He said it was the Glock stock height https://www.ameriglo.net/sites/default/files/gl112t.jpg

I liked this combo a lot. After running the all black sights the tritium dot was really easy to pick. It's a little wider than the Defoors obviously but not enough to matter in my opinion.

It would be a nice EDC combo for someone that still wanted a black rear sight in my opinion.

[PD Sgt.]

On my Glocks I use a .125 TCAP with the yellow circle around the tritium and a .150 notch all black rear. With the all black rear the smaller front tritium dot is not an issue. I have also found the Ameriglo yellow to be much better for me as it is photoluminescent and the orange is not.

I like the .125/.150 front to rear ratio for decent precision while still being fairly fast to pick up.

[MD7305]

http://www.vdmsr.com/2015/03/ameriglo-cap-defoor-pro-i-dot-glock.html

Just leave that there.

Outstanding write up. Mirrors my experience with CAPS and iDot-Pros.

I've shot iDot Pros on all my Glocks since they came out and they're my favorite sights. I like the balance of the visible front and wide rear notch. They just plain work for me. I bought a pair of TCAPS and really like the accuracy they achieved with the thin front sight but the yellow didn't work for me. If an orange TCAP becomes a reality it will give my iDots something to fear. I prefer orange over yellow. I just acquired a ProGlo front that I'm gonna experiment with in conjunction with a stock Glock rear NS. My wife's G42 has Ameriglo Spartans and I like them as well but only have about 300rds on them.

Reference Trijicon HDs, I like them what little I've used them and if they werent so expensive I'd buy a set but for what Ameriglo offers for the money I can't pass them up.

[Gray222]

Re; trijicon HDs...without getting a review (ill be doing one soon) the HDs are tough as nails and can take a lot of abuse. The Ameriglos....not so much. Ive broken several sets of ameriglo sights. While ameriglo is awesome at replacing them, they do break.

[Alembic]

I have i-dots on my G17 and G19 with orange front sights and like them very much. The orange is bright in daylight and the single rear lamp is dimmer than the front sight lamp at night. I can't speak from experience in regards to yellow vs orange, but I look forward the trying a yellow front sight for better visability at dusk.
Last night I installed Ameriglo Spartan Tacticals on my new G43. As side from the fact I spent 2 hours filing them down to fit, at first glance I am not pleased with the double rear lamps. Both are brighter than the front lamp. As well, I find two rear lamps to be a cluttered sight picture. If I can remove the rear Spartan, I'll be installing a new single single lamp rear i-dot and hope to call it good. YMMV.

My use is not professional and I'm not hard on my gear, but all the sets have stood up to a hammer as an install tool and seem to be no worse for the wear.

[MGW]

I have i-dots on my G17 and G19 with orange front sights and like them very much. The orange is bright in daylight and the single rear lamp is dimmer than the front sight lamp at night. I can't speak from experience in regards to yellow vs orange, but I look forward the trying a yellow front sight for better visability at dusk.
Last night I installed Ameriglo Spartan Tacticals on my new G43. As side from the fact I spent 2 hours filing them down to fit, at first glance I am not pleased with the double rear lamps. Both are brighter than the front lamp. As well, I find two rear lamps to be a cluttered sight picture. If I can remove the rear Spartan, I'll be installing a new single single lamp rear i-dot and hope to call it good. YMMV.

My use is not professional and I'm not hard on my gear, but all the sets have stood up to a hammer as an install tool and seem to be no worse for the wear.

I took Chuck Hagard's advice and used a red sharpie on the rear dots on a set of Tru-dots. It. Does a great job of dimming them down and increasing the contrast between the front and rear sights.

[miller_man]

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A friend of mine showed up the other day with Defoor rears and an Ameriglo .125 tritium front on a 17. He said it was the Glock stock height https://www.ameriglo.net/sites/default/files/gl112t.jpg

I liked this combo a lot. After running the all black sights the tritium dot was really easy to pick. It's a little wider than the Defoors obviously but not enough to matter in my opinion.

It would be a nice EDC combo for someone that still wanted a black rear sight in my opinion.

This is what I have settled on for my carry 19. Just the right amount of space between the rear notch and front sight for me.
I have the same rear and a .90 fiber for my other 19 for competition.

Had pro idots on a 23+19 for 2 years before, a little too wide for my eyes. Had one set with orange and one with yellow front sight - the yellow was much better for my eyes.

Have a set of HD's on a 34 that I've shot very little with.

Am I the only one who dislike's the HD's?

The front sight still looks big even on the end of the long 34 slide and gets lost in the bowl of the U shaped rear notch for me.

[Alembic]

I took Chuck Hagard's advice and used a red sharpie on the rear dots on a set of Tru-dots. It. Does a great job of dimming them down and increasing the contrast between the front and rear sights.

Thank you for passing along the advice. Sounds like a quick, affordable answer.

My apologies for the bad grammer and spelling. My phone is my only internet connection until we settle in to our new home here in Vermont.

[Alembic]

Re; trijicon HDs...without getting a review (ill be doing one soon) the HDs are tough as nails and can take a lot of abuse. The Ameriglos....not so much. Ive broken several sets of ameriglo sights. While ameriglo is awesome at replacing them, they do break.
Could you be specific as to what broke? Front sight post? lamps came loose?

[Gray222]

Could you be specific as to what broke? Front sight post? lamps came loose?

Rear sights came loose after hard use and didnt stay in place. Had to use loctite.

Front sights, I had two stems break, one orange ring crack.

[CSW]

Trying to keep all my sight pictures relatively the same, I run a 10-8 .156 rear with a Trijicon HD yellow up front on my G26.
On my G19, I just installed the Ameriglo "Protectors" .
https://www.ameriglo.net/sites/default/files/gl701.jpg

This way, short of the U rear on the 10-8, and the square on the Protector, the sight picture is the same. Accuracy has been good, and my hits to 25 are just cut the target in half.
I just see the lime better than the orange.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

Can any of you guys tell me if one of the Ameriglo Glock TCAP or Proglo front sight heights will work with a Heinie tritium dot rear with the .156" rear notch?

[Up1911Fan]

Can any of you guys tell me if one of the Ameriglo Glock TCAP or Proglo front sight heights will work with a Heinie tritium dot rear with the .156" rear notch?

Depends. Heinie front sights are typically .215" or taller depending on if that zeroes the gun for you. The TCAP is .165", there is a .220" ProGlo, that may or may not work depending on your gun/load. This is all in reference to Glock's.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

Depends. Heinie front sights are typically .215" or taller depending on if that zeroes the gun for you. The TCAP is .165", there is a .220" ProGlo, that may or may not work depending on your gun/load. This is all in reference to Glock's.

Thanks for the tip. Yes I saw that size front.

I am currently using a Gen 4 19 and a Gen 3 17. Carry ammo is either 124 +P or 147 grain Speer Gold Dot. Was considering using the Heinie Straight 8 Rear with with a bright Amergilo front. I couldn't find a HD front in that size either.

Perhaps GJM will weigh in. I know he was experimenting with Heinie rears and HD fronts.

[frozentundra]

On the Ameriglo website it says that CAP sights are designed to hit with a drive the dot sight picture. Does anyone know if there is a rear sight that can be paired with the TCAP front for a more conventional tip of front sight POA/POI? Preference would be all black rear if possible, and in the .150 to .160 something notch width. For a G19.

I would even prefer a slight 6:00 hold to drive the dot.

[Gray222]

On the Ameriglo website it says that CAP sights are designed to hit with a drive the dot sight picture. Does anyone know if there is a rear sight that can be paired with the TCAP front for a more conventional tip of front sight POA/POI? Preference would be all black rear if possible, and in the .150 to .160 something notch width. For a G19.

I would even prefer a slight 6:00 hold to drive the dot.

The cap sight is so wide that a point of ledgr sighting method may be contrary to its design. If you want a more ledge poa then id suggest getting thinner sights.

[Cool Breeze]

The cap sight is so wide that a point of ledgr sighting method may be contrary to its design. If you want a more ledge poa then id suggest getting thinner sights.

I agree with voodoo man - that being said - an ameriglo .272 rear sight height will give you top tip of the front sight poa/poi with a .165 front. At least it did for me on my g17 and g19. I used GST-165 & GL-406PRA for my black sights which I love. Front sight is super thin for accuracy. I'm probably transitioning at least one of my Glocks thought to full night sight 3 dots just so I have the capability.

[Kevin B.]

Thanks for the tip. Yes I saw that size front.

I am currently using a Gen 4 19 and a Gen 3 17. Carry ammo is either 124 +P or 147 grain Speer Gold Dot. Was considering using the Heinie Straight 8 Rear with with a bright Amergilo front. I couldn't find a HD front in that size either.

Perhaps GJM will weigh in. I know he was experimenting with Heinie rears and HD fronts.

I had to go with a .245" front to get POA/POI at 25 yards with two GEN4 G17s and a GEN4 G22. My guns all shot ~4" high at 25 yards with the .215".

I saw that Optics Planet has .245" height HD front sights. I can't help with the question of width, though.

[frozentundra]

I agree with voodoo man - that being said - an ameriglo .272 rear sight height will give you top tip of the front sight poa/poi with a .165 front. At least it did for me on my g17 and g19. I used GST-165 & GL-406PRA for my black sights which I love. Front sight is super thin for accuracy. I'm probably transitioning at least one of my Glocks thought to full night sight 3 dots just so I have the capability.


I am looking specifically at the TCAP, which Ameriglo lists at .125 width.

So If the TCAP measures .125 x .165, and I paired it with a .164 x .272 flat black rear, you think that might be the ticket? It's the only high viz tritium front sight I can find that's narrower than .140, and I don't want to switch to a different sight picture. My vision in my right eye is starting to go to hell.

[glocksalot]

I just received my shipment from Ameriglo this afternoon and just finished installing them on my g19; this is my second set of the same sights and I absolutely love how quick it is to pick up the front sight and how easy it is to make shots with these sights.

GL-212-200-OR-C on the front, and a GL-405L on the rear

And to top it off, Ameriglo threw in a few free chem lights in the package!! I couldn't be happier with these!

[Gray222]

I am looking specifically at the TCAP, which Ameriglo lists at .125 width.

So If the TCAP measures .125 x .165, and I paired it with a .164 x .272 flat black rear, you think that might be the ticket? It's the only high viz tritium front sight I can find that's narrower than .140, and I don't want to switch to a different sight picture. My vision in my right eye is starting to go to hell.

I was thinkin of the regular cap sights, I didnt know they made a thin version. .125 is pretty thin.

[GRV]

I was thinkin of the regular cap sights, I didnt know they made a thin version. .125 is pretty thin.

Yea, don't you remember? The orange TCAP is the latest whiz-bang, unobtainium sight we all think is going to put the nail in the coffin of that pesky "sucking" problem we all have. Or rather...it would be that were it not for the fact that Ameriglo has never made it at all and it is going on its Nth vaporware cycle.

[Gray222]

Yea, don't you remember? The orange TCAP is the latest whiz-bang, unobtainium sight we all think is going to put the nail in the coffin of that pesky "sucking" problem we all have. Or rather...it would be that were it not for the fact that Ameriglo has never made it at all and it is going on its Nth vaporware cycle.

I had a pair of the CAP sights I reviewed along with the Pro-I dots and original all black Defoor sights. If they made a CAP sight that is the same thickness as the defoor sight I'd wanna try it. Though if its still center of dot aiming....mehhh....I'll pass.

[Cool Breeze]

I had a pair of the CAP sights I reviewed along with the Pro-I dots and original all black Defoor sights. If they made a CAP sight that is the same thickness as the defoor sight I'd wanna try it. Though if its still center of dot aiming....mehhh....I'll pass.

I don't know any tritium sights that are thinner than the ameriglos that are .125. But I agree...that would be interesting.

[GRV]

I had a pair of the CAP sights I reviewed along with the Pro-I dots and original all black Defoor sights. If they made a CAP sight that is the same thickness as the defoor sight I'd wanna try it. Though if its still center of dot aiming....mehhh....I'll pass.

I believe the TCAP front sight, as well as the CAP front sight, are stock height. From talking to Rich on the phone, I was led to believe that it's the (generally unused) CAP rear sights that they change the height of to get the center dot aiming. Granted, he said they use a .272" height rear to do that, as opposed to the .256" stock height, and unless I'm mistaking my geometry I feel like that would make it less drive-the-dot than stock...not more...

Whatever the case may be, provided the front sight is stock height, which I fully believe it is, and you pair it with a stock height rear sight, then you should get the same POA/POI as the Defoors. Because the Defoor front and rear are both stock height as far as I know. Different results might be due to comparing sights on different guns.

[Gray222]

I believe the TCAP front sight, as well as the CAP front sight, are stock height. From talking to Rich on the phone, I was led to believe that it's the (generally unused) CAP rear sights that they change the height of to get the center dot aiming. Granted, he said they use a .272" height rear to do that, as opposed to the .256" stock height, and unless I'm mistaking my geometry I feel like that would make it less drive-the-dot than stock...not more...

Whatever the case may be, provided the front sight is stock height, which I fully believe it is, and you pair it with a stock height rear sight, then you should get the same POA/POI as the Defoors. Because the Defoor front and rear are both stock height as far as I know. Different results might be due to comparing sights on different guns.

If you are going to try it out, post up your findings.

[GRV]

Will do...once Ameriglo makes the damn thing :P I'll probably just swap my Defoor front out for an orange TCAP and leave the Defoor rear.

Living with the simplicity of the Defoors has severely numbed my sight pickyness, so I'm not in a rush to try more crap anymore. Nevertheless, I'm still interested enough in the prospect of an orange TCAP to buy one and give it a shot, should they ever materialize.

[Cool Breeze]

Will do...once Ameriglo makes the damn thing [emoji14] I'll probably just swap my Defoor front out for an orange TCAP and leave the Defoor rear.

Living with the simplicity of the Defoors has severely numbed my sight pickyness, so I'm not in a rush to try more crap anymore. Nevertheless, I'm still interested enough in the prospect of an orange TCAP to buy one and give it a shot, should they ever materialize.
Hey dove, the orange tcaps are avail. Just purchase the yellow ones and write orange in the comments. I spoke to Rick last week and they are trying to launch a new website and not adding anything new to the current one.

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[GRV]

Hey dove, the orange tcaps are avail. Just purchase the yellow ones and write orange in the comments. I spoke to Rick last week and they are trying to launch a new website and not adding anything new to the current one.

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:o


No wonder the website looks like they scrapped everything I'm interested in from them. e.g. the Yellow classic Operator rear in stock height. Thanks for the info! I'll probably order the front tomorrow.

[Cool Breeze]

Yeah he also said... They are not updating the site with what is in Stock or out of stock... Calling is your best bet if you want to see status of stuff. That being said... As a lot of comments that have posted about optics planet.. If it is a standard sight that has been around for awhile, ordering from there seems cheaper.

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[Clusterfrack]

Operator Yellow/Green are my favorite but Ameriglo appears to be discontinuing them.

[GRV]

I wonder if I should try to pick up the yellow classic operator before they disappear. But I have a hard time believing they're really discontinuing them.

My only holdbacks are 1) I don't know how I feel about the tritium size difference between that rear and the TCAP front (smaller vial) and 2) my Defoor rear works and is on my slide really good...like, it accidentally shaved itself to fit when I installed it...don't ask me how I managed that one, but I'm a bit nervous about taking it off now.

[Cool Breeze]

I wonder if I should try to pick up the yellow classic operator before they disappear. But I have a hard time believing they're really discontinuing them.

My only holdbacks are 1) I don't know how I feel about the tritium size difference between that rear and the TCAP front (smaller vial) and 2) my Defoor rear works and is on my slide really good...like, it accidentally shaved itself to fit when I installed it...don't ask me how I managed that one, but I'm a bit nervous about taking it off now.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/03/3be17fff7f712f23539da81cd59c9559.jpg
Dove I agree with you about the smaller tritium... Right now I'm thinking about making my own red tcap. I'm going to buy the ameriglo 125 wide front with white outline and do what I did to these old pair of meps that I put on my sirt . The. 125 front with white paint has a normal size tritium.

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[GRV]

Not a bad idea. I thought about that route. I prefer paint to tape. Birchwood Casey is nice, and will hold up fine if you don't let it touch anything, but I think Ameriglo's job is far more durable. Plus, I'm curious to see Ameriglo's orange in person.

Sitting around earlier today with the lights off but the room lit by overcast light from outside, I pulled out two setups: Defoor with Birchwood Casey painted front, and (yellow paint, green tritium) TCAP front with yellow operator pro rear. Not the first time I've done these sorts of experiments, but today it was enough to convince me I should probably stick with a tritium rear if I can.

I'll call to see if they have the classic operator rear with yellow tritium and the orange TCAP front. I'll at least try the TCAP front with the Defoor rear, but I think I'll end up using the classic operator rear if I can get one in yellow.

Beyond the moot aiming benefits in certain lighting, I'm particularly fond of tritium rears for their nightstand-beacon quality.

[GRV]

Just got off the phone with Miles at Ameriglo. I have an orange TCAP heading my way. For those interested, the model number is GL-212-165-120-OR-Q.

What I found strange though is that they don't have any GL-147Rs right now. That's the classic operator rear with yellow tritium for 9mm and .40. Both the rear and the full set are conspicuously missing from the website altogether...and have been for a long time now. All other variants are still up there. Miles didn't know anything about that, but said to call back in a few weeks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they haven't stopped making it, though it makes no sense to me why they'd do that. I wonder if the other variants are only up there because they're less popular and are old stock...

[Gray222]

Just got off the phone with Miles at Ameriglo. I have an orange TCAP heading my way. For those interested, the model number is GL-212-165-120-OR-Q.

What I found strange though is that they don't have any GL-147Rs right now. That's the classic operator rear with yellow tritium for 9mm and .40. Both the rear and the full set are conspicuously missing from the website altogether...and have been for a long time now. All other variants are still up there. Miles didn't know anything about that, but said to call back in a few weeks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they haven't stopped making it, though it makes no sense to me why they'd do that. I wonder if the other variants are only up there because they're less popular and are old stock...

When you get it please photo it and measure it, id like to see it

[GRV]

Yea, I'll definitely send measurements. Pictures will come down to getting my friend to drag his camera over. When I tried to take pictures of my painted Defoors for you with my cellphone, I was really pissed off at the difficulty, lack of quality, and terrible color representation.

If you just want to see the front sight on its own, that'll be a lot easier than getting shots of what the actual sight picture looks like on the gun.

[Gray222]

Yea, I'll definitely send measurements. Pictures will come down to getting my friend to drag his camera over. When I tried to take pictures of my painted Defoors for you with my cellphone, I was really pissed off at the difficulty, lack of quality, and terrible color representation.

If you just want to see the front sight on its own, that'll be a lot easier than getting shots of what the actual sight picture looks like on the gun.

No rush

[Sasage]

I wonder if I should try to pick up the yellow classic operator before they disappear. But I have a hard time believing they're really discontinuing them.

My only holdbacks are 1) I don't know how I feel about the tritium size difference between that rear and the TCAP front (smaller vial) and 2) my Defoor rear works and is on my slide really good...like, it accidentally shaved itself to fit when I installed it...don't ask me how I managed that one, but I'm a bit nervous about taking it off now.

I have only found the Pro Operators with yellow rears, never an operator.

[Clusterfrack]

I have only found the Pro Operators with yellow rears, never an operator.

I have 5 sets of Operators with yellow rear. GL 147, I think.

[GRV]

I have 5 sets of Operators with yellow rear. GL 147, I think.

That's the one.

[GRV]

Got the TCAP orange front. Here's two pics of just the front, one lit, one in very dim lighting with long exposure. It was very tough to focus on even with a nice camera/lens (but without a proper macro lens), but this is the best my friend and I managed to get before we gave up.

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The orange paint is really really awesome. The pictures don't do it justice. It makes my 6+ months old Birchwood Casey Flourescent Red paint on my Defoor front look like something I scraped off the inside of a dumpster. Compared to the fresh BC paint, it is very similar, but a tiny bit more orange in hue and a tiny bit paler or less saturated/fluorescent. But, it's hard to tell for me since they are remarkably close. Aside, my BC pen has dried to the point of not just the nib being dead but I can't even get liquid paint out of the mechanism at all...and it's been capped...not happy. The Ameriglo paint has a slight glossy sheen to it, unlike the matte BC paint. Maybe they put a clear coat on. Either way, I expect it to hold up better.

So far, the sight looks much better than the yellow, both in ideal conditions and against the sort of backgrounds the yellow washed out on.

I do not think I will be able to get a good shot of the sight picture. Doing so would require a lens with a focal length that I simply do not have access to via favors or otherwise. Such shots are worthless if you don't take them from arms length away; you'll get the wrong proportions. Having installed it today and held the slide up at arms length away, I'll just say that it looks like the orange square is the perfect height for the Defoor rear (or other Ameriglo Classic rears). That is, when the top edges are aligned, the orange square sits pretty much right on the rear notch, exposing little if any more of the front sight post. This is exactly what I hoped for. I'll confirm this later this week.

With the cals, I got the following measurements:
TCAP front: .126" wide, .165" tall
Defoor front: .115" wide (not including the thicker base), .164" tall
Defoor rear: .150" wide notch, .256" tall from the dovetail

Those are what I thought were the most consistent and best taken measurements. I'm not great with cals and the cals weren't great either, so I had some shifts of .001 or so here or there. So, I'm inclined to believe Ameriglo's stated specifications. tl;dr, POA/POI should be unaffected.

We'll see how I feel about the reduced light bars and thicker target coverage when I shoot it. However, there is still a good deal of light on either side. Compared to the Defoors' "stick in notch" profile, I have a gut feeling that the "square in notch" profile of the TCAP with a Classic rear will be more satisfying, natural, and faster to align. I think this is how I felt about the yellow TCAP with the Pro rear notch. I'm not sure if the notch height is different between the Pro and Classic rears, but suffice it to say: If you want a square shape of exposed front sight with a Classic rear and stock heights, you need to bump up to .125" wide. A nice consolation prize for having to go thicker for tritium.

[GRV]

This Ameriglo orange paint really kicks ass.

Better than BC in a wider variety of lighting.

That is all.

[Mr_White]

Thanks for the pictures and report dove!

[GRV]

Thanks for the pictures and report dove!

No problem!

Might as well mention my only complaint so far. Mentioned it in my training journal. With the Defoors, especially with the thin paint stripe, it was very natural to align the proper POA of my G17, which is just a bit below the top edge at 7 yards. With the TCAP, my eyes really want to drive the dot/square, which results in high shots. However, this is just me needing to get used to seeing what I need to with this sight, and not really a smack against the sight itself.

ETA: Also, I think that the square doesn't quite sit exactly on the bottom of the rear notch when the top edges are aligned, but I think it's close enough to reap those benefits.

[CS Tactical]

Thanks to Ameriglo for sending me some new Glock CAP LE sights (GL-670) for my G43 to T/E. I like having a similar sight to the Trijicon HD's without the sharp edges that rip my clothing up. I hope to try them out in the next week or so when I shoot the G43 for the first time.
http://ameriglo.com/products/glock-cap-le-sets
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Excuse the poor cellphone pics :o

[Steve m]

I have three sets of ameriglo sights t-cap green fronts with "defoor" rears. For me they work well.
I ordered a orange t-cap front, I think it was a bad lot, the screw was too far forward for me to get my front sight tool around. Other than that I am very happy with ameriglo sights.