Week 124: Four Corners

[Mr_White]

Week 124: Four Corners

Results may be posted until September 7th, 2015.

Designed by: Gabe White
Range: 5 yards
Target: Six, numbered, two inch circles, download here - http://pistol-training.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/6-twos-numbered.pdf
Start Position: Holstered
Rounds Fired: 24

This is something of a follow-on drill to Week 115: Typewriter. It will be a fairly simple live fire drill suitable for the constraints of many ranges, and will focus on upward, downward, and diagonal transitions on fairly difficult targets.

If your range does not allow drawing from a holster, start from a ready position with the muzzle pointed off the target and add two seconds to your time for each string.

You must shoot the targets in proper order each time.

String 1: Shoot one shot each to the targets 1, 6, 3, 4
String 2: Shoot one shot each to the targets 3, 4, 1, 6
String 3: Shoot one shot each to the targets 4, 3, 6, 1
String 4: Shoot one shot each to the targets 6, 1, 4, 3
String 5: Shoot one shot each to the targets 1, 4, 3, 6
String 6: Shoot one shot each to the targets 3, 6, 1, 4

Your score is the number of hits you made (out of 24) divided by your total time for the six strings of fire. So for example if you get 23 hits and shoot it in 25.55 seconds your score is:

23 ÷ 25.55 = 0.80

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Equipment used: gun, holster, concealment (if any)
Number of Hits
Times
Total Score
Observations: anything you noticed

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

[BN]

Gen 3 G-17, Blade Tech, open carry.
18/24
32.32 seconds
0.5569
Observations: Trigger control is very important. :)

[MVS]

Gen 3 G19 Fricke AIWB, T shirt
20/24
31.53
.634

[breakingtime91]

3731
21/24
44.58
.47
Glock 19 in a JM appendix t shirt. Most runs were seven seconds but I had a speed reload that pushed it up to 9 for that run and lead to two missed dots

[Clobbersaurus]

Beretta Elite II, AIWB under a polo.

19/24 - 5 shots out
34.69 sec
.54

Observations: Front sight, front sight, front sight....

String 1: 6.81
String 2: 6.40
String 3: 5.61
String 4: 5.44
String 5: 4.71
String 6: 5.72

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r151/clobbersauras/DSC04004_zpsg6vix1fm.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/clobbersauras/media/DSC04004_zpsg6vix1fm.jpg.html)

[Paul D]

Equipment used: Glock 17, JMCK AIWB under T shirt
Number of Hits: 23
Times: 35.18
Total Score: 0.65
Observations: Had to resist urge to look at the next target before completing shot.

[backtrail540]

I turned in a horrendous set of numbers on this drill. Contrary to last week, I didn't take the time I needed to get the hits and shot this way too fast. For some reason I had it in my head that I wanted 4 second runs to get a 1. Obviously out of my skill level at this point but that didn't stop me from trying and failing miserably. My first run was with a gun that I haven't really trained with before but I wanted to run a different piece of gear so I shot it a bit. Then I ran it with my regular training gun/gear.

5" FNS, DSG AIWB, polo
10
26.77
.37
I am embarrassed to even post that as I know better and should have taken my time, especially on an unfamiliar platform.

CZ P09, JMCK AIWB, polo
16
30.8
.51
Still not happy with this, but obviously better than the previous run. I definitely need to take some time away from the timer when working dots and ease my way to dots at speed.

Dots, especially at speed, have been my achilles heel. I am going to spend some time this week working them. The FNS was reasonably close on other drills that I ran in comparison, but when low percentage targets came into play as in this drill, I fell off.

[That Guy]

I'm running low on 9mm, plus I've been jonesing to shoot a big revolver for a while now. So, for the heck of it, I tried this drill with my Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum using full charge ammunition. :) Unfortunately, turns out that when not using winter gloves (yes, it's been that long since I shot the gun last) the new, pretty wood grips on the gun remove skin off my thumb in recoil. This made not flinching difficult. Trying to focus on a very careful trigger pull and not flinch made the times really long. So, what sounded like a fun idea didn't pan out so well in the end. The final score was pretty ridiculously bad...

[BehindBlueI's]

I used a different target, but it is still 2" circles. I thought I still had some 6 dot targets in my range bag from 2" dot DotW, but nope. I also thought I had my P226...but it was my P220, and I didn't take any .45 with me. So, I only shot my P229.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb183/Docwagon1776/Mobile%20Uploads/20150814_101024_zpsff1ae1e6.jpg

Sig P229 .40
Open Carry kydex holster (actually for a P226, did I mention I thought I took my P226?)
Speer Lawman 180gr

18 hits

String 1: 2.24 sec
String 2: 1.96 sec
String 3: 2.04 sec
String 4: 2.20 sec
String 5: 2.07 sec
String 6: 2.27 sec
Total time: 12.78 sec

Hit Factor: 18/12.78 = 1.41

Things noticed: I shot some 75y steel and some 15y barricade work before running this, so it was not shot cold. I was able to run this at a good pace and my misses weren't very far out. Keeping my elbows down to put more lateral pressure on the gun helps. I'm going to run this one again next week with my P226 and see how it compares.

[WobblyPossum]

Equipment used: G19 Gen 3, Ameriglo I-Dot Pros, Raven Concealment Eidolon under a tshirt

Number of Hits: 18/24

Times:
String 1: 8.43
String 2: 8.21
String 3: 8.13
String 4: 8.94
String 5: 7.91
String 6: 7.18

Total Score: 18/50.8 = 0.35

Observations: I accidentally printed the target out with 1.75" circles, not 2" circles, soI'm counting that shot on the right side of dot 4 that looks like the grease ring didn't break the line :o

3758

[Range1]

Equipment used: Glock 23 converted to 9mm, from open front concealment using Safariland ALS owb holster.

Total number hits: 13

Times: 6.88; 5.75; 5.72; 5.61; 5.45; 5.33; Total 34.78

Total score: .3738

Observations: My shooting still sucks. This was last course of the day and I was definitely getting fatigued. Noticed a lot of shoving at the gun unless I slowed way down to make the shot. Got a lot to work on yet.

[Skeeter]

Equipment used: Glock 19, Keeper AIWB holster, Polo shirt for cover.
Number of Hits: 22 out of 24 (missed 24/24 by a smidgen)
Times: 7.65, 8.61, 8.26, 8.64, 7.74, 8.08
Total Score: 22/48.98 = 0.45
Observations: POA was about 1/2" high of center at 5 yards. Did this drill a few times and initially went too fast with few hits (typically low and left). I'm working on speeding up the trigger press while still staying on target, this drill was helpful. Dry fire on a beep is helping too. I think I'll try a version of this with double taps eventually.

3760

[2alpha-down0]

M&P9, Safariland 6377

3.80
4.18
4.20 -1
3.78 -1
3.83
3.71 -1

Totals: 23.50, 21/24
Score: 0.8936

[RJ]

Equipment used: VP9
Number of Hits: 3
Times: About a minute and a half. Including a reload.

Total Score: (Not sure it matters, really. Low.)

Observations: Right, so with probably the lowest score evaarrr on DOTW, I am in need of improvement. 7 yards is clearly a bit too optimistic for where I am right now. In future I will go with 3 yards, so I can practice the transitions better.

But hey, at least I tried it. :cool:

3781

[CCT125US]

HK P2000 v2 Trijicon 3 dot
JRC AIWB CDA II from under a t-shirt
3.33 / 3.14 / 3.34 / 3.46 / 3.41 / 3.65 = 20.33
21/24
1.03 hit factor
observations: I was recently gifted this firearm, and with this drill brings my cumulative round count to 224.... I am liking it so far. A little too much in fact.
3784

[MD7305]

Glock 22, JMCK AIWB, concealed under a t-shirt

19/24
Cumulative time of 42.48
Score: .45
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/25/8b34441491e4c60bed362d849e97c409.jpg
(Forgot to print a target so I improvised by tracing 6x 2" off a dot torture target)

Observations: My times seemed slow for how fast I "felt" like I was shooting. Of my misses, they were mostly on my first circle. I think I rushed the shot coming from my draw. That's a continual problem for me, I have to tell myself to tap the breaks and concentrate on my shot. I also rarely practice transitions and this revealed that weakness as well. I'm not done with this drill...


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[taadski]

I shot this one following a couple reps of the Two Inch Dot Challenge. I think there were plusses and minuses to that. On one hand, this wasn't shot cold; I was warmed up. But on the other hand, I was shooting DOTW #123 deliberately (not slow fire, but seeing the front sight lift off every dot) and I had to try and shift gears a bit shooting this one.

Sig 226 in a level III retention duty holster.

First run:
Hits: 24/24
String times:
4.16
4.14
3.78
4.11
4.24
3.89
Total time: 24.33
Total Score: 0.986
Observations: To shoot this drill effectively, it needs to become a rhythm drill. I wasn't very successful at that and felt my transitions a bunch slower than they needed to be.

Run 2:
Hits: 24/24
String times:
3.85
3.64
3.56
3.35
3.60
3.49
Total time: 21.49
Score: 1.1167
Observations: Better this time but was still shooting in a pretty conservative fashion. At some stage I'm going to try and shoot it again and push a bit further to the edge of my "comfort zone". Good drill.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/taadski/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0611_zpsfce96a2a.jpg


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[MD7305]

That's some good shooting, man!

[42TNred]

Equipment used: Glock 19; my range does not allow drawing from the holster so drill was shot from low ready
Number of Hits:21
Times: 26.26 + 12 seconds for shooting from low ready = 38.26
Total Score: .548
Observations: Experimenting with reloading different bullet weights. so far, the 147 grain has given me the best results over both the 115 and 124 grain. Dry fire practice has also contributed to being able to pick up the front sight and press quicker.

[cosine]

Equipment used: Glock 19, Comp-Tac paddle holster, no concealment
Number of Hits: 16
Time: 44.86 seconds
Total Score 0.357
Observations: need to work on pretty much everything

3833

[Mr_White]

Gen3 G34, concealed under a polo shirt in a Keeper
24/24 hits
3.53, 3.81, 3.56, 3.63, 3.35, 3.81 = 21.69
24/21.69 = 1.10 total score
I found this distracting and shot conservatively. I was going to shoot it again, less conservatively, but I decided to give my hand a break instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkz4Id0bIyk