Week 122: Front Sight (USPSA Classifier CM 99-23)

[Mr_White]

Week 122: Front Sight (USPSA Classifier CM 99-23)

Results may be posted until August 24th, 2015

Designed by: P.R. Metcalf - Modification by US Design Team
Range: 7 yards
Target: three USPSA Metric targets, spaced 7.5 feet apart
Start Position: see below for details
Rounds Fired: 12

This week we are going to shoot a USPSA Classifier as the DotW. See the official written stage briefing here: https://www.uspsa.org/classifiers/99-23.pdf

For purposes of the DotW, we may have some imprecision in placing your gear in the most appropriate Division, determining Major or Minor scoring, and possibly in your setup (if you have fixed target stands/rails that don't let you put the targets exactly the right distance apart, for example.) We are just doing this for the DotW, and no official USPSA score will result, so it's not a big deal if there is a little variation from official USPSA rules.

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First, let's figure out your Division:

If your gun has an optic or compensator, you are shooting Open. If your gun does not have an optic or compensator, then you are shooting one of the other Divisions.

If your holster is forward of your hip (as with AIWB), you are shooting Limited. If your holster is not forward of your hip, then you are shooting either Single Stack, Production, or Revolver. Limited-10 is the same as Limited because there is no reload on the clock in this classifier.

If you are shooting a single action only gun, you are shooting Single Stack.

If you are shooting a revolver, you are shooting Revolver.

If you are shooting a double action or striker fired gun, you are shooting Production. If you are shooting Production, then you are scored Minor regardless of your actual caliber or load.

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For our scoring purposes, if you are shooting 9mm/.38Spl, then you are scored Minor. If you are shooting .357/.40/.45, then you are scored Major (unless you are shooting Production, then you are still scored Minor.) Minor scoring is A = 5 points, B/C = 3 points, D = 1 point. Major scoring is A = 5 points, B/C = 4 points, D = 2 points. Misses are -10 points for both Major and Minor.

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Start position is standing, both arms hanging relaxed at sides or both wrists above respective shoulders - shooter's choice. Handgun is loaded and holstered.

String 1: Start facing uprange. Upon start signal, turn, engage all three targets with two rounds each.

String 2: Start facing downrange, hand position opposite of string one. Upon start signal, engage all three targets with two rounds each.

This Classifier is Virginia Count (no extra shots allowed.)

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Scoring:

Add up your points.

Divide your total points by your total time (for both strings together.) That number is your hit factor.

Divide your hit factor by the 100% hit factor for your Division, to get your percentage on this classifier.

In USPSA Open Division, 100% is a hit factor of 14.49.

In USPSA Limited, Limited-10, and Single Stack Divisions, 100% is a hit factor of 13.3727.

In USPSA Production Division, 100% is a hit factor of 12.70409.

In USPSA Revolver Division, 100% is a hit factor of 12.03543.

95-100% = Grand Master
85-94.9% = Master
75-84.9% = A Class
60-74.9% = B Class
40-59.9% = C Class
Below 40% = D Class

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Equipment used (pistol, holster, optional concealment garment if one was used)
Division
Total points
Total time
Hit factor (points divided by time)
Percentage (your hit factor divided by the 100% hit factor for your Division)

An example:

You are shooting a G17 9mm handgun (no optic or compensator), carried in a strong side OWB holster. You are shooting Production Minor. You shoot the drill with a total time (both strings together) of 8 seconds. You shoot all As, for a total of 60 points. Your hit factor is 7.5 (60 points/8 seconds.) Your percentage is 59% (your 7.5 hit factor/the high Production hit factor of 12.70409.) You shot C class.

You would report:
G17, strong side OWB
Production
60 points
8 seconds
7.5 hit factor
59%

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Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

[Luke]

Have you run it yet Mr white?

I plan on running this a few times tomorrow.

[BCL]

I ran this a few times today and the HF was pretty consistent. I used both a production and limited gun during the test to see the differences between going for mostly As (Production) and speed (Limited), and how that would affect the HF/percentage.

Since I already had IDPA targets in my truck that I'm trying get rid of, I used those instead of USPSA Metric targets. I used the corresponding zones on the IDPA target with the same points for major/minor scoring as a USPSA target (-0/A zone, -1.5/C zone, etc). While there were definitely a couple of times when having USPSA Metric targets would have been helpful (where the A zone is versus an IDPA target's -0 zone), I think between the various runs everything evened out.

G34 Gen4, Strong side OWB (Production Gear)
Production
54 Points
6.38 seconds
8.4639 HF
66.6234%

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G35 Gen3, (Production belt/gear)
Limited Major
52 Points
5.57 Seconds
9.5153 HF
71.1547%

I may run this again within the next couple of days and use USPSA Metric targets.

ETA: Not sure if this makes a difference or not, but on the uprange starts I started with my wrists above shoulders and when starting downrange it was hands at sides.

[Mr_White]

Have you run it yet Mr white?

I plan on running this a few times tomorrow.

Not recently, I am behind right now.

[Luke]

Rained before i got a chance to do it today. Hopefully it will still be active next weekend.

[rwa]

Most recent 99-23 scores from matches. Old classifier, but then again so am I amd so are the scores. All one run, on demand.

Limited Division:

12/11/04 - 98.301% (December in WY, brrrr...) Les Baer PII, .45 ACP, Blade Tech Belt Holster.

Limited 10 Division:

2/26/06 - 96.046% Les Baer PII, ,45 ACP, Blade Tech Belt Holster.
6/27/04 - 88.174% Les Baer PII, ,45 ACP, Blade Tech Belt Holster.

Production Division:

11/30/04 - 93.508% CZ75B, Stock except for magazine brake removed, mainspring changed, Blade Tech Belt Holster.

[backtrail540]

CZ P09, JMCK AIWB, concealed under a T-shirt
Limited Minor
46 points
6.98 seconds
6.59 hit factor
49%


CZ P09, JMCK AIWB, concealed under a T-shirt
Limited Minor
56 points
7.37
7.59 hit factor
56%

[nwhpfan]

Here's mine.

54 Points.
4.72 Seconds
11.44 HF
90%
Glock 34; USPSA Standard Production Rig.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_wq6SV_ZHk

[taadski]

Here's mine.

54 Points.
4.72 Seconds
11.44 HF
90%
Glock 34; USPSA Standard Production Rig.



That's some pretty impressive on demand work, dude. You won't be in A class for long. Nice job!



I was a B class hero all around today. :( I shot this drill following my Hack standards run.
Sig 226
Duty gear again (Safariland 6360; I'd left my production rig at home by accident)

3.15 5A/1D
2.81 4A/1C/1D
=5.96
HF 8.389
66%

3.44
3.06
=6.50 (forgot to write down the points)
HF 8.923
70%

I finally calmed down and decided to pay bit more visual attention and shot an 80% on my third run (I know, I know)

3.07
3.71
=5.78 clean
HF 10.38
81.7%


[Big sigh]



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[nwhpfan]

Thanks, I baring any crazy HQ math...I should get bumped next time they run the numbers.

[Mr_White]

Thanks, I baring any crazy HQ math...I should get bumped next time they run the numbers.

Fingers crossed there's no craziness in the numbers. You definitely deserve the M card.

[taadski]

Nice! Congrats. Certainly seems like the skill level is there. [thumbs up]

[rwa]

I finally calmed down and decided to pay bit more visual attention and shot an 80% on my third run (I know, I know) Not to get all Enos like, but between visual awareness, visual acceptability, and visual patience, the "patience" part was always the toughest for me. I think that'a pretty normal.

[taadski]

😎 I like Enos.

I appreciate the comment. I'm totally on board with what you're saying. I've heard it , I've read it, and I've dedicated myself to working diligently on it....but still, when the buzzer goes off/things start rocking, it's REALLY easy to click back into old modes. The hardest thing for me is trusting that the speed will still be there.



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[Mr_White]

Gen3 G34, concealed in a Keeper under a polo shirt
Limited (Minor)
52 total points
4.31 total seconds
12.064965 HF
90.22% in Limited Division

First string was kind of slow and choppy. Second string was fairly brisk. My targets were spaced extra-wide because the target carrier placement meant either too wide or too narrow, so I went with too wide.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWM1yorOovg

[MVS]

Equipment used (pistol, holster, optional concealment garment if one was used) Gen4 G17 Prosights, Fricke Archangel, t shirt concealment
Division Limited Minor
Total points 60
Total time 7.15
Hit factor (points divided by time) 8.39
Percentage (your hit factor divided by the 100% hit factor for your Division) 62.75%

[nwhpfan]

Gen3 G34, concealed in a Keeper under a polo shirt
Limited (Minor)
52 total points
4.31 total seconds
12.064965 HF
90.22% in Limited Division

First string was kind of slow and choppy. Second string was fairly brisk. My targets were spaced extra-wide because the target carrier placement meant either too wide or too narrow, so I went with too wide.


That looks good....but did you know; they sell paper tape the same color as your target?

I usually buy this. (http://www.findtape.com/product264/JVCC-FPPT-01-Kraft-Flatback-Paper-Packaging-Tape.aspx?cid=78&idx=3&tid=24&info=Kraft%2bFlatback%2bPaper%2bTape%2b%28Hand-Tearable%29)

[Luke]

Gen 4 17 Dawson sights OWB holster. Production division.

60 points
8.40 combined time
(Only had a few rounds so didn't get to shoot it as much as I wanted, I'm pretty sure I could speed things up and get it down to a combined 6 seconds with all A's.
What's weird is that I was quicker facing up range and turning and drawing!

I think this is like 59%?

Pic is looking at the shot timer after the drill, my buddy randomly took it! Notice the bamboo target stands? Forgot my stakes at home.. Improvising. A pocket knife makes a decent machete)

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp81/hook_setter/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshaoggjad.jpg (http://s400.photobucket.com/user/hook_setter/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpshaoggjad.jpg.html)

[cheshire_cat]

I ran this drill / classifier 4 times.

G34, strong side OWB
Production

49 points
6.88 seconds
7.12 hit factor
56%

52 points
7.31 seconds
7.11 hit factor
56%

53 points
8.42 seconds
6.29 hit factor
50%

58 points
8.42 seconds
6.88 hit factor
54%

I then ran a modified version of the el prez (same distance and target set up and got 58 points in 9.91 seconds.

[BN]

Gen 3 G-17 Blade-Tech, open carry.
Production.
58 points, 11-A, 1-C.
6.52 total time.
Hit Factor: 8.896
Percentage: 70%.

I looked up the other times I had shot this;
2006 Limited; 66%
2003 Production; 58%
2003 Revolver; 71%. I probably shot this with the 3 inch Model 10 in my avatar. :)

[Clobbersaurus]

EDIT: CRAP! I just realized my targets are too close together, they were one yard apart...so really this test was a total fail....

Beretta Elite II, AIWB over a polo shirt.
Limited (Minor)
54 Points, 9A, 3C
7.32 total time
Hit Factor 7.37%
Percentage: 55%

Here's a crappy pic of the target (I used template made IPSC metric targets). Lots of tape due to the other DOTW's I did yesterday and I was too lazy to change them from the Hack test so they remained staggered.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r151/clobbersauras/DSC04002_zpspsdrd7yd.jpg (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/clobbersauras/media/DSC04002_zpspsdrd7yd.jpg.html)

[Range1]

Equipment used: Glock 23 converted to 9mm, from open front concealment using Safariland ALS owb holster.

Division: Production

Total points: 60

Total time: 9.00 seconds

If I followed correctly that is final score of 52.47 for C class.

[2alpha-down0]

M&P9, Safariland 6377
Production

2.65 on both strings, 5.30 total
50 points
HF: 9.4339
Percentage: 74.2587 (B class)