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GJM
07-19-2015, 01:06 AM
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/

Luke
07-19-2015, 01:40 AM
I'm not real sure what to think. Atleast they offer it in a 6.5CM! Did you see that weight..kinda confused. It looks like all the other wiz bang chassis rifles but it says ruger on it :/ I bet snipers hide will have a lot of stuff on this rifle. For 1k I don't know if I wouldn't buy a tikka CTR.. Look forward to the reveiws.

TGS
07-19-2015, 07:37 AM
Eh.

A 3/4 MOA precision rifle is pretty unremarkable in a world of .5 and .25 MOA guarantees.

joshs
07-19-2015, 08:57 AM
Eh.

A 3/4 MOA precision rifle is pretty unremarkable in a world of .5 and .25 MOA guarantees.

3/4 seems pretty good for a $1300 MSRP rifle. Who has a better accuracy guarantee at anywhere near that price?

TGS
07-19-2015, 11:07 AM
3/4 seems pretty good for a $1300 MSRP rifle. Who has a better accuracy guarantee at anywhere near that price?

FWIW, I don't think it was a guarantee....that just looks like their average.

As long as we're talking 3 shot groups:

Remington SPS's are almost half that price and consistently shoot 3/4 MOA.....ditto Tikka's, Sako's, and Savages.

Both of my 70 year old K31s are sub MOA with service issued GP11 ammo.

Edit: reading the article again, looks like they were 5 shot groups. So, yeah, it beats my K31 I bought for $200, as it opens up after 3 rounds.

Still, the other offerings are cheaper with similar performance to the Ruger.

BehindBlueI's
07-19-2015, 11:54 AM
averaging five consecutive, five-shot groups.

Five groups of five shots, I wonder how much time elapses between each "consecutive" group. Does the barrel cool back down?

I won't be buying one, I don't have easy access to a range long enough to warrant any of these types of rifles, but LGS says they'll be selling them for a $989.95.

joshs
07-19-2015, 01:09 PM
FWIW, I don't think it was a guarantee....that just looks like their average.

As long as we're talking 3 shot groups:

Remington SPS's are almost half that price and consistently shoot 3/4 MOA.....ditto Tikka's, Sako's, and Savages.

Both of my 70 year old K31s are sub MOA with service issued GP11 ammo.

Edit: reading the article again, looks like they were 5 shot groups. So, yeah, it beats my K31 I bought for $200, as it opens up after 3 rounds.

It was an average of 5 consecutive 5 shot groups repeated with 3 different types of ammo.

You must be really lucky, because I rarely see any of the above mentioned factory rifles perform that well, especially when using a bipod. Accuracy aside, I think it's awesome that Ruger is selling a rifle, with a street price closer to a nicer chassis, that takes AR barrels and furniture and has a magwell that can take both SR25 pattern and AICS mags



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JDM
07-19-2015, 01:14 PM
...Accuracy aside, I think it's awesome that Ruger is selling a rifle, with a street price closer to a nicer chassis, that takes AR barrels and furniture and has a magwell that can take both SR25 pattern and AICS mags



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Seriously.

Before learning of this rifle I had little interest In long range precision guns as I simply couldn't afford to do so much as think about them.

This rifle changes that.

I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on one of these.

GJM
07-19-2015, 01:32 PM
If I were a coyote, and lived west of the Mississippi River, I would consider this new Ruger a negative development.

Prdator
07-19-2015, 01:58 PM
I was at the Range that Ruger announced this gun at.. Got to handle one..

Im Really impressed with it. its a FAR cry from a M77
3 lug bolt
70 deg lift
5R rifling
Pmag feed
folding stock
Adjustable for length and cheek weld
AR type forearm
Sweet trigger ( like the accu trigger)


I dry fired it a few times and ran the bolt some very smooth For $1000 bucks Id sure be in on one if I was looking... and I damn near got one in 6.5 Creedmore any way.

TGS
07-19-2015, 02:44 PM
It was an average of 5 consecutive 5 shot groups repeated with 3 different types of ammo.

You must be really lucky, because I rarely see any of the above mentioned factory rifles perform that well, especially when using a bipod. Accuracy aside, I think it's awesome that Ruger is selling a rifle, with a street price closer to a nicer chassis, that takes AR barrels and furniture and has a magwell that can take both SR25 pattern and AICS mags

What have you seen them perform?


Seriously.

Before learning of this rifle I had little interest In long range precision guns as I simply couldn't afford to do so much as think about them.

This rifle changes that.


Now I really feel like I stepped into an alternate reality....

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Mel on Snipercentral stated his example of a 700 SPS Tac (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-sps-tactical/) is solid sub .5 MOA, with a regular street price of over $600. Granted, that's an exceptional example and not what most report, as shooters will most commonly see .5 to 3/4...which is still exceptionally impressive comapred to the Ruger since it's a few hundred bucks cheaper, even as low as $550 if you check gunbroker. He tested the 700 SPS Varmint (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-sps-varmint/)as a .75 MOA rifle, also around the same price. I've seen such performance on demand, and consistent, from a friends 700 Police, as well. He stated the 700 VTR (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-vtr/) is one of the worst examples of a Remington heavy barreled rifle he's tested, with an average .858" group. The average group he got from a Savage 10 FCP McMillan was .682", with prices comparable to this Ruger. The Savage 10FCP with an HS Precision stock can be had for a grand as well, and I don't imagine it performs any worse.

Tikka T3 Tactical? .625" average (http://www.snipercentral.com/tikka-t3-tactical/), and you're able to get them for $1200 without much effort.

Other than that, I don't know what to say.

I get that some shooters may find it attractive to have PMAG compatibility with an 7.62 AR if they own one...or the other tactical doodads on the rifle....but I don't get the enthusiasm over the rifle as if it's doing something never done before with accuracy in its price range.

It's simply not true. Well documented, and not an opinion.

joshs
07-19-2015, 04:04 PM
What have you seen them perform?

Pretty much like this: http://8541tactical.com/budget%20precision%20article.php

Sniper Central looks to be using 3 shot groups, so I don't think that is comparable.

TGS
07-19-2015, 04:12 PM
Pretty much like this: http://8541tactical.com/budget%20precision%20article.php

Do you know what they shot with the replacement stock?

joshs
07-19-2015, 04:26 PM
Do you know what they shot with the replacement stock?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQUwzEqvQc


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TGS
07-19-2015, 04:48 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HsQUwzEqvQc


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Thanks for sharing his channel. Good stuff.

I'm not seeing how his review of the rifle is really supporting your point of view, though.

Even with the replacement stock, it's still a sub $800 rifle that he personally endorsed as being acceptable for precision rifle matches.

secondstoryguy
07-19-2015, 05:41 PM
Nice to see a company thinking and listening to the customer. Too bad it doesn't come in magnum calibers. I'd like to see it in .300WM or even .300WSM. I'm pretty much done with 15lb .308 precision bolt guns as .308 ARs have proven to be reliable and the same weight as well as being more versatile. Now a short, 7-8lb (with optics/sling) .308 or .260 practical type bolt gun is another story altogether...

SLG
07-19-2015, 05:59 PM
I don't need another precision rifle at this time, but the feature set is very impressive for the price. If the quality/durability/performance lasts (as I imagine it will, but you never know) I think it would make a nice setup. I have not talked to him about this so I cannot ensure its accuracy, but I have it on good authority that Lowlight has been shooting this gun for over a month now and thinks very highly of it.

The actual moa capability of the gun is not that important to me, within reason. Plus, the writer admits he knows nothing about LR shooting. That tells me that an experienced precision rifleman will likely do better, possibly much better. Having said that, my personal $400 sps tactical is a solid .5moa gun with FGMM (replacement chassis that cost more than the Ruger rifle), and much closer to .25 moa with handloads. I don;t consider that typical, but sub .75 is pretty normal, from what I have seen.

Only 5 shot groups count.

JDM
07-19-2015, 11:51 PM
What have you seen them perform?



Now I really feel like I stepped into an alternate reality....

_____________________

Mel on Snipercentral stated his example of a 700 SPS Tac (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-sps-tactical/) is solid sub .5 MOA, with a regular street price of over $600. Granted, that's an exceptional example and not what most report, as shooters will most commonly see .5 to 3/4...which is still exceptionally impressive comapred to the Ruger since it's a few hundred bucks cheaper, even as low as $550 if you check gunbroker. He tested the 700 SPS Varmint (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-sps-varmint/)as a .75 MOA rifle, also around the same price. I've seen such performance on demand, and consistent, from a friends 700 Police, as well. He stated the 700 VTR (http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-vtr/) is one of the worst examples of a Remington heavy barreled rifle he's tested, with an average .858" group. The average group he got from a Savage 10 FCP McMillan was .682", with prices comparable to this Ruger. The Savage 10FCP with an HS Precision stock can be had for a grand as well, and I don't imagine it performs any worse.

Tikka T3 Tactical? .625" average (http://www.snipercentral.com/tikka-t3-tactical/), and you're able to get them for $1200 without much effort.

Other than that, I don't know what to say.

I get that some shooters may find it attractive to have PMAG compatibility with an 7.62 AR if they own one...or the other tactical doodads on the rifle....but I don't get the enthusiasm over the rifle as if it's doing something never done before with accuracy in its price range.

It's simply not true. Well documented, and not an opinion.

TGS, thanks for those links. I wrongly assumed what I could and could not do with the money this Ruger costs.

I still want the Ruger, but I definitely am more informed now. Thanks again!

JV_
07-20-2015, 05:53 AM
I rarely see any of the above mentioned factory rifles perform that wellI can only speak to the Remington part, but I agree. You may find one load it'll consistently shoot 3/4, usually FGMM - IME, but not with a lot of different loads when you include 5 x 5 shot groups.

SecondsCount
07-20-2015, 07:26 AM
As an owner of a couple custom built precision rifles, I am still excited to see Ruger enter the game with some nice features. The stock, magazine capability, and the modularity are all going to give the buyer options that nobody in the industry offers.

Accuracy from factory built rifles is always going to be a gamble. There are a couple good examples of this gun shooting really well and I hope Ruger can maintain that level.

The trigger may become a sticking point for some. You have so many trigger options with Remington based actions and time will tell if the aftermarket catches up to this one.

GJM
07-22-2015, 05:19 AM
Video review:


http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1564384-the-ruger-precision-rifle-6-5-cm


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Irelander
07-22-2015, 10:53 AM
Very cool! Nice to see a precision rifle that is not $3000+.

Luke
07-22-2015, 12:23 PM
Well if lowlight likes it that much.. Then I want one!!

SLG
07-22-2015, 04:13 PM
Video review:


http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1564384-the-ruger-precision-rifle-6-5-cm


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Well, there you go. Watching the gun, it seems to be very well put together. I don't need one, but I may have to get one anyway.