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Kyle Reese
07-08-2015, 02:17 PM
HERE (http://www.rferl.org/fullinfographics/infographics/27114531.html).

Link is safe for work.

It's been 20 years this month.

Suvorov
07-08-2015, 02:27 PM
A despicable tragedy. Added to the tragedy of those who perished in Srebrenica are the Serbian villagers killed in the raids launched by Naser Oric from Srebrenica (while enjoying the cover UN protection), who's deaths will forever be forgotten due to the massacre their "country men" would launch in reprisal.

The massacre at Srebrenica was deplorable and indefensible, yet it did not occur in a vacuum and civil war in Yugoslavia was NEVER as black and white as the western media presented it.

Kyle Reese
07-08-2015, 02:30 PM
A despicable tragedy. Added to the tragedy of those who perished in Srebrenica are the Serbian villagers killed in the raids launched by Naser Oric from Srebrenica while enjoying the cover UN protection who's deaths will forever be forgotten due to the massacre their "country men" would launch as reprisals.

The civil war in Yugoslavia was NEVER as black and white as the western media presented it.

Nope. Croatia committed war crimes against ethnic Serbs living in Krajina, culminating in the mass expulsion and mass murder of non-combatants as part of Oluja. Franjo Tudjman wasn't the nice man that the West portrayed him as. All sides had the blood of innocents on their hands in the wars in former Yugoslavia from 1991-1999.

Suvorov
07-08-2015, 02:39 PM
Nope. Croatia committed war crimes against ethnic Serbs living in Krajina, culminating in the mass expulsion and mass murder of non-combatants as part of Oluja. Franjo Tudjman wasn't the nice man that the West portrayed him as. All sides had the blood of innocents on their hands in the wars in former Yugoslavia from 1991-1999.

I appreciate your posting and reminder of these tragic events.

At the most basic level, the tragedy of the Civil War in Yugoslavia should remind all of us living in the "West" that it can happen here. Yugoslavia was the poster child for "multi-ethnic socialism done right" and the vast majority of people all got along fine. They went from being a nation who enjoyed a good standard of living and ease of movement between both the NATO countries and Warsaw Pact countries and hosts of the 84 Olympic games, to the very definition of racial strife and hatred in just a few small years.

The scary thing for me now, after returning to the US after almost 2 months in the Balkans, is the perception of far more stability in Serbia than what I have returned to here :(

Peally
07-08-2015, 02:48 PM
It can and does happen everywhere. Humanity is awesome.

Suvorov
07-08-2015, 03:07 PM
It can and does happen everywhere. Humanity is awesome.

I just finished listening to Dan Carlin's (https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?9402-Great-podcasts&highlight=carlin) "Ghosts of the Ostfront (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNNCTAa0bQ4)." At the end he talks about the Soviet reprisals against the German Civilian population for what the Germans had done to the Russian populations. He then talked about how the Romans and just about all other concurring armies raped, looted, and pillaged (sometimes against their own countrymen). It isn't a German, Russian, Roman, Bosnian, Serbian, Croatian, Confederate, Yankee "thing" - it's a human "thing." :(

Peally
07-08-2015, 03:34 PM
Yep. Sad part is the US will eventually crumble and another group (and another, and another) will rise, try the same thing, fail, etc.

The human condition is having groups of tribal psychopaths barely banding together with moments of good splashed here and there, regardless of technological progress. Pretty depressing but thankfully I won't live to be 500 years old ;)